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- 0:00Eric Warsaw's TikTok JourneyEric Warsaw recounts losing his massive TikTok account and the impact of new ownership on his content.
- 5:55The Geopolitical ChessboardEric details Israel's strategic moves in Syria, Lebanon, and Venezuela, highlighting a broader agenda.
- 16:40Syria's Orchestrated DownfallThe discussion delves into the foreign-backed revolution in Syria and the neutralization of its military.
- 28:00The Cost of EmpireThe panel discusses the immense financial aid from the US and Germany to Israel, questioning its true cost.
- 37:20The Great Awakening's PriceEric and Rabbi debate the human cost of the 'Great Awakening' and the role of social media in exposing truths.
- 48:20Zionist Influence & ControlThe conversation shifts to the pervasive influence of Zionist organizations like AIPAC and ADL on US politics and media.
- 58:20Historical RevisionismThe panel challenges mainstream historical narratives, particularly concerning World War II and the Holocaust.
- 1:08:20Propaganda in Pop CultureThe speakers analyze how Zionist propaganda is subtly embedded in movies and TV shows to shape public perception.
- 1:18:20The Nature of DeceptionDiscussion on the psychological tactics used to manipulate public opinion and the difficulty of recognizing pervasive lies.
- 1:28:20The Role of SubconsciousA debate on the extent to which subconscious processes influence human decision-making and susceptibility to manipulation.
- 1:38:20Grok's Bias & CensorshipThe panel shares experiences with Grok's biased responses and its apparent self-censorship on sensitive topics.
- 1:48:20Free Will & PhilosophyA philosophical discussion on free will, determinism, and the importance of truth in human understanding.
- 1:58:20Chessboard of RealityIan uses the analogy of chess to describe the geopolitical landscape and the struggle against a seemingly unfair system.
- 2:08:20The Path ForwardConcluding thoughts on the importance of unity, truth-telling, and collective action to overcome systemic challenges.
The Transcript
Speaker 1Hey, Ian, it's been a minute. Give me just a second.
Ian MalcolmWell, okay. I was going to wait for Eric to join us here, but we can go about it that way. I see that we got Joanne in here as well. Love that. And very excited for this space. I'll send out some invites to some of our friends that often speak in these spaces with us. We've got Mr. Rabbi Malley, who I think is going to be able to join us, if I'm not mistaken, as a co-host.
Ian MalcolmIf not, no worries, my friend.
@malleusigYeah, I know. When you sent me that, when I accepted the co-host invitation, for some reason, it drummed back down to the stage. So I don't know what's going on with that.
Ian MalcolmLet's see. I'll try canceling that one. Send in one more. If not, no worries. But very excited to be joined today by... an absolutely wonderful guest, wonderful speaker, wonderful contributor to this movement. And I say that because not only is this individual putting out massive amounts of viral content, bringing a lot of attention to this cause, but he's also been doing so in spite of the fact that building a massive TikTok following.
Ian MalcolmI think he was one of the biggest, quote unquote, noticers on TikTok. Had a humongous following on there. And then we'll hear more about the story. But if I'm not mistaken, just a couple days after the acquisition by Oracle and Larry Ellison got his complete account not only suspended, but every ounce of content stripped off of the network.
Ian MalcolmThere we go. It just popped in. And so I say that because, look, it takes some cojones to talk about these issues. Takes even more to be out there face first the way that he is, not only with his picture and his profile, but his face proudly presented on a lot of the video content that he does. I know that he, I'm sure he gets a lot of real world challenges or animosity due to it.
Ian MalcolmAnd so we'll dive into that. And also, you know, like I said, it takes cojones to talk about these issues. Certainly takes cojones to speak about him in spaces. Takes even more. to be face first in the videos that are becoming viral on this subject. And as the last one, it takes even more to get knocked off of a pedestal after building a monumental account, uh, of, of massive significance.
Ian MalcolmI'm not sure if it was monetized or not. And if so, perhaps a massive dollars or maybe minimum dollars. I don't know how any of that works, especially on the TikTok side, but, uh, but to have something like that stripped out from under you. right, to be up there proudly fighting against this machine intellectually and spiritually and to get your legs swept by a trillion dollar industry that owns every single megaphone, every single speaker.
Ian MalcolmAnd yet they're so terrified that they have to just knock you off your pedestal, send you all the way back down to, let's say, the first floor of your of your handle. And so I know we're going to hear a little bit about that. And then we're, of course, going to talk about the current events. I'm hoping that things are not going to escalate.
Ian MalcolmI'm seeing some news that would indicate it certainly is. I've seen other people, no shots at this individual. I don't want to make any comments, but apparently Mossad, literally the Mossad Twitter handle put out a post saying this is all a ruse and that Israel and the rest of the Middle East is not going to allow the United States to do anything.
Ian MalcolmAnd people are saying, see, I told you it's just theater. That was the post that I saw. Now, ironically, it came from the person, again, not going to mention any names, but the person that was batting, if I'm not mistaken, 0 for 4, 0 for 5, 0 for 6, 0 for 7, maybe 0 for everything, the last time that you had the 12-day war between Israel and Iran.
Ian MalcolmAll of the proclamations that person made came, let's say, dramatically untrue. And yet here they are still. standing around in spaces and making posts with big handles saying, here's what's going to happen. It's like the weatherman who says it's always going to be sunny and yet you walk outside to get rained on. And so speaking of rain, we are never going to allow any rain on the parade that is Mr. Eric Warsaw.
Ian MalcolmVery humbled that you are here, my friend. Very honored to be able to hold the space with you. Thank you so much for coming on. I know this is not your usual forum, but it's the second time. I remember last, I think it was in the summer of last year, we had a beautiful chat. I think you're a beautiful mind, beautiful person, and you've been growing exponentially on this app as you should.
Ian MalcolmSo everybody, without further ado, please give a follow to Mr. Eric Horson, sir. If you wouldn't mind for anybody not familiar with your work and your backstory and all the accomplishments you had on TikTok, in addition to this application. If you could just give everybody kind of an overview on yourself with as much or little information as you feel comfortable sharing, of course.
@warsawerikAppreciate you, my friend. Yeah, I did lose my main TikTok account and most of my backup accounts recently on TikTok with the new ownership. I had 433,000 followers and over 250 million views on all my videos combined. 250 million with an M.
@warsawerikuh yeah they just lost it and like within a few seconds they gave me uh my appeal results a negative so not cool but i've been growing uh really fast on instagram and x i have a combined of uh 20 million views per month on instagram and x combined youtube is i i don't put too much effort into youtube because um I get warnings and strikes and I already lost my main account on that one already.
@warsawerikSo some, some, some areas are easy to grow on some or not. And, uh, no, definitely appreciate you having here. I started, I started on this, uh, everything started like the greater, the great noticing the great awakening happened on October 7th. I started my show on TikTok on October 8th, the very next day at 11 o'clock in the morning, I was just doing a, I was planning on doing a one hour show.
@warsawerikand um i did nine and a half hours and i had a quarter million people see me in one day because everyone was really interested uh what the hell was going on no one even knew what a palestinian was or who the good guys were bad guys were and i was very happy to explain but yeah and i was the and you know for real back then man i mean no one knew this was gonna blow up into the uh a history changing event everyone just who knew the truth just kind of just started hit that you know they hit the gas pedal and uh we ended up where we are right now
@warsawerikBut I'm glad you talked about Iran. So, guys, Iran, it's a huge story. They're like underplaying it in the news. If Iran falls and they put in that freaking that puppet leader, Reza Pahlavi.
Ian MalcolmPahlavi, yep.
@warsawerikJesus. Guys, he's already went to the Western Wall. I heard him give a speech on American news or Israeli American news radio yesterday. Just the other day, they broadcasted everywhere his speech. He said that the new direction of Iran, once he takes over, would be to push away from Palestinians in Lebanon and embrace Israel and America as new allies and all sorts of shit.
@warsawerikI'm like, oh, for the love of God. So, guys, that's a monumental thing. And I really believe that they're pushing a lot of stuff in the media today. to kind of distract people. In the past few weeks, they blocked the Jeffrey Epstein list again. They took over Venezuela. They're threatening to take Cuba next in Greenland, and they're trying really hard for the overthrow of Iran.
@warsawerikHowever, in the past half a day, I've been seeing some indicators that it looks like the protest might be just dying down a little bit, and it looks like Iran might have held through the storm, man. Hopefully. I mean, we'll see. But Donald Trump already kind of reversed course a little bit. Donald Trump released a statement today indicating that he might not attack them.
@warsawerikSo we'll see which way it goes. Politics is really, really unpredictable. And I mean, it's looking in a good way right now. But guys, I mean, listen, where the hell are we going with this freaking country right now? And ever since October 7th, it's the great awakening, the great noticing. But for real, they're winning still.
@warsawerikI mean, I'm sad to report that, but they are winning. Since October 7th, let's go over all the freaking evil accomplishments of Netanyahu. The flipping over Syria, when Syria had its revolution, they took out the entire advanced army. No more Navy, no more anti-aircraft, no more Air Force. Wipe that completely out.
Ian MalcolmEric, since I know you know that subject perhaps a little bit more than a lot of the listeners, and I know people are kind of familiar, but I don't think people recognize what a big deal that was. If you wouldn't mind kind of unpacking that just a little bit as part of the progression here.
@warsawerikOn Syria especially?
Ian MalcolmYes, just because you were going into kind of the transition of power and everything else that accompanied it.
@warsawerikYes. All right. The way I worded this, guys, because here's the thing is Bashar al-Assad, the leader of Syria at that time, right? uh he was not well liked by the syrian people and they loved to have him gone but the way i worded it was like all right you know it's a good revolution at bad timing because israel just swooped right in and just took over everything man they wiped out even if syria wanted to fight back right now they can't because israel completely neutralized his entire military they capitalized on uh that one moment of weakness and um
@warsawerikI mean, they planned a moment of weakness, too. American media news reports even stated that for weeks ahead of time, they started paying the soldiers that would be taking part in the revolution. They were paying them way ahead of time and everything. Now, the new leader.
@warsawerikThere's people who think, like... well he's kind of neutralized right now he can't really do anything he doesn't have an army some people think he has good intentions and some people think he was a bad intention from the beginning whichever way you think he can't do anything right now even if he wanted to he uh after his military was neutralized he also worked with um israel and israeli allies to basically uh
@warsaweriksell off privatize as they like to brag about it to privatize the economy basically sell it off to like you know like black rock and all that so their economy is not even really run that much by them and they don't have a military so the leader is kind of leader in name only while there's other powers now that have more flex over him bashar al-assad was not a good guy the previous leader uh he was very very well hated by the by the people and for he's just an eye doctor
@warsawerikIf you look at him, listen to him, he was not meant for leadership. Really, it was his brother that was meant for leadership. The dad gave the power to him because his older brother died. And instead of letting it be a merit-based system and leaving it in the hands of somebody competent, he left it to Bashar al-Assad, who just, it does not seem like he really, he wasn't the type of person to be a leader of a country.
@warsawerikthe middle of a whole bunch of other superpowers and and lead it in a positive way so that was just all the way bad um once syria flipped over now israel is funneling tons of weapons and uh like there's different groups within syria and they're they're pushing them all to argue and fight amongst each other and have the the arms and means to do so so they're distracted within fighting syria was a huge arms route
@warsawerikto Lebanon where Hezbollah was getting the vast majority of its arms. Now, remember when Israel attempted to invade and go into Lebanon and they briefly broke the border and were getting their asses kicked for about two whole months straight. And Lebanon, the Hezbollah of Lebanon was doing rocket attacks all over in Northern Israel and everything.
@warsawerikThey were whooping them, man. the reason why Lebanon, uh, Hezbollah group has been quiet ever since was because they just ran out of ammunition. The, this, their arms supply routes have been, uh, neutralized through Syria. So when, when, uh, when Syria flipped over, it was a huge, and then they, they took over the Golem Heights and their, uh,
@warsawerikThey have easy access to bomb the capital of Damascus now. So all of Syria is now neutral. They've put a puppet leader, Joseph Oon, in charge of Lebanon. And even CNN, there's a CNN article saying that the guy is, he's basically an American puppet, but also, you know, obviously working for Israel. So Lebanon's been neutralized.
@warsawerikHezbollah has the heart to fight back. They just don't have the ammunition anymore. Syria has been neutralized where they can't fight back against Israel. Venezuela, they're introducing democracy to privatize everything. So it's going to be the illusion of democracy. Their democracy is going to put Maria Machado, who in 2020 signed a...
@warsawerikagreement with benjamin netanyahu's lakud party and for some reason the the the document is in english so anybody can look it up i have it even in my profile and um they're winning they're they're winning across the board guys this is uh freaking horrible and i'm glad iran so far has withstood the uh the protests and everything like that and they're holding their country together
@warsawerikright now they keep on expanding somaliland is so that israel can uh retake the canal and also have an a base of attack against yemen it's going to be all bad for yemen within a year i mean it takes time to build a military base and stuff like that but even in here in america guys like we've exposed them and but what have we done otherwise we we have we have failed to dislodge a single zionist
@warsawerikfrom their position of power in the media, in APAC, in anything. We replaced a whole bunch of puppets in American politics with other puppets. We replaced a bunch of Democrat puppets for Zionism with Republican puppets for Zionism. And now there's some people think that if we vote Democrat again, it's going to, no, it's the same thing.
@warsawerikIt's the same thing over and over again. A lot of people, like, you know, what's crazy is that even when people know better, even when people know that, hey, you know, zionists run the democrat and the republican party people still digress right into right versus left uh arguments instead of uh staying together and fighting and focusing on the zionists they digress way too easily into like tribalism and all this other stuff man and uh i it's just i don't know i it's frustrating sometimes when i see people getting manipulated too easily
@warsawerikUh, like, you know, there's some freaking Zionist is in charge of some protest and they, they go to the protest and like, oh, come on guys. But, uh, oh, Ian Malcolm, man, thank you so much for having me up here, man. You do excellent, excellent, excellent work. And you're a big part of the great awakening, the great noticing to yourself.
@warsawerikI'm going to be hitting the follow button up and down on everybody that I possibly can while the show is on too. So, uh, we'll do the questions and all that stuff. Oh, truth is up here too.
Ian MalcolmI sent him because he had the wild idea that he needed to raise his hand and I sent him a DM. I was like, come on, you can just jump in anytime, my friend. I feel so excited to have both of you guys on the same panel. It's crazy.
@warsawerikJoanne is up here again. I see her all over the place too. Nice seeing her again. We'll go ahead for your questions and all that, man.
@joann_marieThank you so much for being here, Eric.
@warsawerikI love your work. Appreciate you so much. But guys, no, for real, I am worried this election. I am worried. You know, and another thing I really worry about is we're really poised to wipe out AIPAC candidates out of this upcoming election. They're not going to allow that. These are the same people that killed 20,000 children in two years and are conquering countries by kidnapping and shit.
@warsawerikYou really think they're going to just allow us to vote them out of office? Guys, I feel like bad stuff is coming. And... I don't know, man. Everyone should be mentally and physically prepared for really hard times ahead, man. I mean, I'm already in my head. We got to do what the hell we got to do because it is getting that serious.
@warsawerikI really believe it's going to digress down that road. I don't think we're going to be having a peaceful protest to solve all the problems here in America. But all right, my friend, I'll let you go ahead for questions and all that.
Ian MalcolmYeah, of course. Let's go to Mr. Truthteller first and foremost, and especially given you were kind of covering some of the efforts over in Syria, the rest of the Middle East, and some of this. It's essentially, Eric, I agree with you. I think they are running, and I tried to describe it the other day, I think they are running essentially a Hail Mary while at the same time they're pulling their goalie, if I can use two sports to try and make a single analogy, in the sense that...
Ian MalcolmThey're going for everything. They're going for broke. They don't think anybody can stop them. And as a result, they're leaving the goal, which is, you know, in this little metaphor, it's the noticing, it's the awakening. People are starting to recognize, hey, look what's going on. And that's simultaneously their weakness, right?
Ian MalcolmIt's the Achilles heel. Because once people recognize what's going on sincerely and they realize it's not just about changing the channel to the next news organization to get truth, but rather that all of it, every ounce, is controlled. You have to completely detach yourself from the matrix, if you will, so that you can see what's going on.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's the wild part, right? We've got the totalitarian Hail Mary or full corporate, whatever you want to call it. And of course, that just further exposes and it makes it even easier, just like October 7th and everything that followed made it far easier for us to suggest, hey, look, the TV's lying. It's not telling you what's going on.
Ian MalcolmIt's completely indifferent to a genocide, etc., So we just keep getting more and more intellectual ammunition, right, to fight this spiritual war. It's not a call for any kind of violence, of course. But at the same time, even as people are noticing, you're exactly right. They just lurch forward with Palantir and all these other things that might prohibit very well people from even being able to prospectively vote, which when you said that, it reminded me of Trump when he said this will be the last election you have to vote in.
Ian MalcolmIt's like maybe that wasn't the maybe that was the Freudian slip rather than just the buffoon thing to say. But anyway, let's go to Mr. Tritar. I'm very curious for his thoughts.
Speaker 2Hey, thanks, Ian, and Joanne, Rabbi, and everyone else for hosting the space. Yeah, good to see you. So, look, my perspective is obviously a little bit different on Syria and overall outlook, too. And, like, I don't know your background and what level of depth you have on Syria, but, look, with respect to Bashar al-Assad,
Speaker 2First of all, he was an ophthalmologist, so an eye specialist, not just some optometrist. Meaning he did his four years in med school, five years specialty, etc. Does that qualify him to be a leader? I know he wasn't first choice. His brother was. His brother died in an accident, or however he died, who knows. And he took on the mantle unwillingly, but did so fervently.
Speaker 2And what I would suggest looking at or considering is the outcome of his leadership. So he was in power from 2000 until 2011 officially, but all the way up until the end of 2024 unofficially. Then his country got invaded by a foreign army. There was no organic revolution that took place. And in terms of his popularity, just to mention two separate polls, a CNN Zog poll and a separate poll as well.
Speaker 2One's regional, one's international. He was voted the best leader in the region. So why is that? Well, over the course of his leadership, he tripled the GDP of the country, cut the debt by one-fifth, provided free health care and education, and also achieved harmony between the various factions and tribes. So he's a Shiite, Alawite, et cetera, and Christians as well.
Speaker 2And look, they're competing factions. Now he's an Alawite, so the majority Sunni population, they more or less accepted him because there were two elections in Syria. So if you're going to judge whether his people liked him or not or whether he was popular, well, he was. Popularly voted in multiple times. And the reason why he was taken out wasn't because of his popularity within the country.
Speaker 2Because, again, his wife is also a Sunni as well. And so were some of his top leaders. And over 70% of his army was as well representative of the majority of the country. But that aside, it was a foreign invasion that took place because he also opposed the Rothschild Bank. And it was a predetermined destiny to destroy Syria all the way back from 1982.
Speaker 2from the Oded Yunan plan. Oded Yunan, of course, was the advisor to Ariel Sharon in Israel, the same guy that, of course, did the atrocities in Sabra Shatila. He's a terrorist, no war criminal, dead now. That aside, and then, you know, fast forward to, you know, 95, 96, there's a clean break memo. Once again, the same plan to balkanize Syria into three parts.
Speaker 2The U.S. would control one part, Turkey and Israel, the rest. And, of course, a little, call it autonomous area, not autonomous area, nothing's autonomous within Syria. And a little area that, Looks like ISIS al-Qaeda would control. And the HDS leader you're thinking of was al-Julani. And look, he's a terrorist. He was in an Iraqi jail for over five years for murdering American soldiers, among others, too, doing suicide bombings, car bombings, hijackings, head choppings.
Speaker 2He's the ultimate terrorist. If you think the Syrian people actually would have voted for someone like him, well, why doesn't he have elections then? They never really did have a chance to have elections. And with respect to Assad, they had the best leader they could ever have, a guy that, again, achieved... all those amazing economic metrics.
Speaker 2And the only people that really would take issue with them were, I'd say, Saudi, Qatari, UAE-backed opposition. They were funding and enabling, of course, the likes of ISIS, al-Qaeda come and take over. And with respect to that, both clean break memo I mentioned, yeah, they had a plan to go and invade Iraq and Syria, invade and balkanize those countries.
Speaker 2And then PNAC memo stated the same thing. And then right after 9-11, you know, Syria was on the chop block again. So they'd already decided they were going to replace the leadership in Syria, irrespective of who is in power. They didn't come in there. There was never going to be some kind of organic uprising revolution otherwise.
Speaker 2This is completely orchestrated, just like you're seeing in Iran right now, because these so-called protesters, they were supposedly voicing dissent. Why would they be destroying infrastructure like they're doing in Iran? Why would they be blowing up oil fields and blowing up train stations, destroying infrastructure? and shooting at cops, etc., if they're just doing peaceful protests for whatever concerns they were voicing.
Speaker 2It was all complete bullshit. This was a foreign army that was in there since 2011. They were going about their head-chopping and persecuting minorities, which is exactly what's still going on in Syria, unfortunately, to this day, until Iran and Russia came in to intervene to try to stabilize the region, and that, of course, turned into a proxy war.
Speaker 2between, you know, because as you know, it was Operation Timber Sycamore that took place there where you had both CIA MI6 and Mossad train these foreign forces to come into Syria to destroy it so they could take the resources. And this is further substantiated also by the WikiLeaks memos where even Hillary Clinton in her email stated that, you know, replacing the Assad regime would be a boon to Israel.
Speaker 2So, you know, this intervention that took place in Syria was 100% foreign-backed. And it was the same deal, of course, in Iraq, Afghanistan. They already had the plan, of course, for Somalia, Sudan, and Libya. So you see the trend here. And then Iran's the last country on the chop block, along with Lebanon, too. So understand the trends.
Speaker 2And it's not that Bashar al-Assad was not a guy that was popular among his people. He was. He would walk around within his cities with barely any security because his people actually did love him for everything that he did. And again, he was running a successful practice. He didn't need this leadership, which tells you that, you know,
Speaker 2You can look at it that he didn't need to get into a leadership role to try to forsake corruption or to take on that stress and headache of having to manage a country versus just having a quiet life with his family, his kids, etc. and managing his practices and being successful at that. He would have been successful either way.
Speaker 2He wasn't driven by greed. And you know this because even when he made mistakes, of course, this is after the invasion, etc. He probably should have spent more investing in his... his military industrial complex, learning to build his own weapons, etc. There were some mistakes made. And he should have heeded warning from Iran, Russia, sooner than later, before 2024, because they told him this invasion was coming.
Speaker 2But he was trying to make peace with the Gulf states to try to get funding from them because ultimately his economy succumbed to those crippling sanctions. And he was looking for a backup plan, unfortunately. And Iran invested significantly there. Russia did what it could, but then they got busy with their own proxy war in Ukraine.
Speaker 2So, you know, he was left to fend for himself and he trusted the wrong people. And unfortunately, shit happened for the worse. And now Syria is in a much worse position than it is now. And even those, you know, Arabs or others that initially applauded what they call the revolution and the will of the Syrian people have, you know, many of them have remorse.
Speaker 2Anyone's a donor will, of course, in on it. So it's a little more complex and nuanced to think that. You know, Syria just underwent some kind of organic revolution. Anything but. This was pre-planned the same way what they're trying to do in Iran. It's pre-planned. And you see these diaspora retards coming in supporting, you know, the murder of civilians, destruction of infrastructure, you know, destroying ambulances, pirate trucks, mosques, medical facilities.
Speaker 2None of that's part of peaceful protests. And where are they getting their weapons from? Who's armed and trained them? Who's given them instruction and direction? The same foreign-backed forces that enabled the invasion of Syria as well, just like they did in Lebanon, of course, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. So all these invasions, these interventions in the Middle East, you can see are all pre-planned.
Speaker 2Syria is no exception. And, you know, we're seeing that it's mainly to serve the Israeli state and Trump's, you know, paymasters. He's just a puppet, you know, just taking direction and doing as he's told.
Ian MalcolmWould you agree with Eric's thought that this is all part of the, let's say, it's the inverse of the noticing? Like, would you say all of this is the JQ? It's the same thing?
Speaker 2Absolutely revolves around the JQ because they don't want leadership in place in any country, any Arab country or anywhere that opposes like a Rothschild Bank, opposes their degeneracy. You see the same thing in Venezuela as you do in Iran, for instance, LGBTQ is opposed. There's no gay marriage. There's no gay pride parade events.
Speaker 2The same in China and Russia. There's no pornography, no degeneracy, no usury taking place. And they're not relying on IMF and World Bank loans. They have very little debt, in fact. So. They like to saddle up these countries with debt so they can control their monetary policy, then dictate to them what policies they have to institute in exchange for more loans, because those loans, of course, result in unfortunate austerity measures, such as, say, taxing their energy supplies.
Speaker 2And then, of course, to pay back those loans, it has to be done in U.S. dollars, which then causes devaluation of their currency, which, of course, then leads to inflation in the country and unemployment. And you're seeing this in Argentina as well. It's totally crippled. needing more foreign-backed loans to be able to manage, despite the so-called clean-up or the shock therapy model that Millet instituted.
Speaker 2So you see this common trend everywhere you go, where you've got these outside interventions through the JQJP, whichever you want to call it, to benefit them, of course. So this way, their banks can get richer, and they can issue their bullshit usurious loans, which are then collateralized against the assets of the country, so that in the event of a default, they have to...
Speaker 2sell off their assets for pennies on the dollar. So it's an asset-stripping approach then, which just benefits the usurious Jewish banksters who are really in charge. But they operate in the shadows, of course. So unfortunately, it's the U.S. Army, that foreign-backed army that gets all the heat. So yeah, blame ISIS, blame al-Qaeda, rightfully so.
Speaker 2But understand that somebody trained them, somebody provided them with arms and military intelligence, and someone else provided them with health care services when they got injured on the battlefield. And it all points one direction to Israel and the Jews that wanted this destruction of Syria, just as they wanted the same thing.
Speaker 2Only the Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan, Pakistan, Somalia, et cetera. You see this common trend across the region and in other regions as well. In South America and Central America. In Central America, it was the 1980s. South America still to this day, they're trying to destroy. You saw what happened in Venezuela. They want to do perhaps the same thing in Colombia.
Speaker 2They already got their puppets in Ecuador. Argentina and you know, they want to install it something with someone to prove as well They kind of have someone there already in Central America. You see that there's mostly shields in power there, too so you just gotta I'd say take a holistic view of The the region and regions and see that what's happening is serious and exceptional Unfortunately, it's a part of the same trend and then you know Took a long time for them to achieve their goal since 2011 install their puppet and now because he's being obedient Even entertaining the Abraham Accords, you know, not quite that simple
Speaker 2that in exchange for that he'll be rewarded with IMF and World Bank loans. But why? And why hasn't the U.S. left the eastern part of Syria where they occupy all the oil fields and wheat fields? And you see that Israel, of course, increases illegal territorial acquisition up to Mount Hermon, including the Golan Heights, which it has.
Speaker 2And, of course, you've got Turkey in the northeast illegally occupying a bunch of cities there. So they achieved their goal of balkanizing Syria, which isn't for the good. Now, in terms of... where we go from here and how things are negative, positive, et cetera. I'd say, look, you can see it is not since 10, seven, at the very least there's been exposure.
Speaker 2There's more people that are aware. And then, you know, the stats are that over 50% of people now are anti-Semitic as they realize all the damage and destruction Israel and the Jews have done. And now they're questioning things like the Holocaust more. And I'd say it's a demographic perspective that matters here. Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2With the boomers, they see things however they see it, but the Gen Zs have woken up more millennials have as well. And they're, you know, insisting on change. So can things get better before they get worse? I think they'll get worse before they get better, especially if there's going to be more interventions in Iran. We'll see where it goes.
Speaker 2Trump seems to have taken a step back. This, though, may be strategy just to try to catch Iran off guard because they love the element of surprise. I believe nothing that comes out of this administration. And, yeah, apparently they delayed some of the public hangings they were planning on. They'll probably still happen, though, because they need to make an example out of these Mossad-backed terrorists, these rioters that came and destroyed the country.
Speaker 2They will. And they've arrested a whole bunch of them and forced them. They've had to make their confessions, make their apologies, et cetera. That won't be enough because they're a bunch of treasonous bastards. There's also a bunch of Afghans, Indians, and others that came in to destroy the country as well. They'll make restitution however they're supposed to.
Speaker 2That's for Iran to decide. So, yeah, and look, Russia, Ukraine, ongoing as well. But, yeah, with this Trump administration, nothing gets better. Things get worse. There'll be further, you know, social, both financial, social and equities increasing. You know, more transfer of wealth from poor middle class to ultra wealthy.
Speaker 2While the megatars sit back and think things are great and, you know, Trump's, you know, trust the plan, trust, you know, Project Q, et cetera. Yeah, it's all a bunch of nonsense, of course. They're waiting to deal with Israel last as Israel grows in strength and wealth, et cetera, while still needing, of course, their foreign aid packages.
Speaker 2While they continue to lie to the world, and claim, for instance, that they're setting aside like $110 or $120 billion towards their own military industrial complex, while they still need four and eight packages. And Trump just recently agreed to like an $8.6 billion F-15 fighter jet package. Well, really? Well, why don't you start now?
Speaker 2Why don't you build your own fighter jets now? They only know how to steal tech. They don't actually know how to develop or build anything because most Jews are lazy. They don't like to build. They just like to be parasitic and reap the wealth from other countries they're still depending on, like NATO. They're still collecting reparations from Germany, and of course,
Speaker 2all the foreign aid that the U.S. gives it, like 15 to 20 billion plus a year, you know, trillions of dollars they've received from the U.S., and they still can't be financially, you know, viable. So it's a failed state as far as I'm concerned. But, yeah, look, it's got to be a collective awakening awareness for things to change, and that's what we're in the process of trying to do with these types of spaces.
Speaker 2And, you know, I'm, of course, a big proponent of boycotting all those shitty businesses, getting people to wake up and realize that they need to stop drinking the kosher coffee, of course. you know, be in staunch opposition to their bullshit Medicare system and all the poisons they put out. You know, I employ the triple F methods, you know, to avoid their faggotry, all their LGBTQ degeneracy nonsense, not be a fat fuck and, of course, you know, fast every day and, you know, minimize your expenditures, of course, and be financially illiterate and understand that this debt-based capitalist model system they have in place is really just crony capitalism that just benefits the ultra-Jewish
Speaker 2elite banksters who are really in charge. These hedge fund managers, these BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard executives are the ones who reap the wealth off these perpetual wars. So people need to realize that they should absolutely not allow any of their kids to be conscripted into the army and, of course, follow suit and oppose this current warmongering.
Speaker 2It's really a communist model that Trump's employing. What is communism? Of course, it's the illegal invasion of these sovereign countries to either... Come in and take leadership role yourself and control their means of production and resources or just all puppet stooges that they control. And that's what they've been doing for decades.
Speaker 2People just need to wake up and realize that they may demonize communism, say it's evil and all the rest, which it is. They're actually the leadership in charge is actually the biggest communist warmongers, probably as bad or as bad or if not worse than what the USSR was between 1917 and 1991 until the collapse.
Speaker 2And they've killed millions and millions of people across the world with this communist model with all their illegal invasions under the false guise of what? War on terrorism? They're the biggest terrorists themselves just to benefit the banksters because, you know, as I've said many times, you know, during times of peace, there's no profit in peace.
Speaker 2You know, they can only earn their ridiculous profits through arms sales and, you know, arms smuggling, et cetera, during times of war. So they constantly have to create, format the conditions for, to be able to go invade countries and, of course, you know, cause, you know, mass body pileups, and then, of course, create slush funds to then go do regime changes anywhere else around the world where there's opposition in our policies.
Speaker 2But I can pause there. Those are some of my views.
@warsawerikAppreciate you, my friend. Real quick, guys, on Bashar al-Assad in Syria, I do tread lightly on that because it's like Gaddafi, Gaddafi of Libya. Every single person that I've ever met that's an Arab Muslim, I've never heard a single person say a bad thing about Gaddafi. When it comes to Bashar al-Assad, it's like 50-50.
@warsawerikSo I always tread lightly. But yeah, that definitely was orchestrated by foreign powers, revolution in Syria. They had it all planned. And they also had al-Jalani. They made sure that he carried the assumption of power going in. No one ever questioned, like, who's the next leader going to be? No, they made sure to capture the assumption of power for him.
Speaker 3But yet they did nothing to help the Libyan country when they got invaded. Not a single one of these Arab countries stepped in to intervene.
@warsawerikYeah, that too, which is always a freaking disappointment. I mean, the guy was also given CNN interviews in the middle of a revolution. The same people that normally would hate him. I mean, it was all very, very obvious for people outside looking to see that this is a... A foreign-funded revolution with a lot of foreign help.
@warsawerikAnd America did over 100 bombings, airstrikes, during that revolution, too. And Bashar al-Assad did run a good economy. You're right. All the way up until 2011. And the reason for the economic collapse in Syria was not Bashar al-Assad's fault. It was a combination of Israel telling America to go destroy their economy with sanctions and all that other economic sabotage.
@warsawerikMan, you mentioned...
@warsawerikGermany's reparations to Israel for World War II. Germany's had to pay $95 billion to Israel for World War II and reparations. America's paid $300 billion in the same amount of time. And aren't we supposed to have been in the winners? Yeah. But we've paid them $300 billion, Germany's paid them $95 billion.
Speaker 3A lot more than that, because it's not just the $3.8 billion, etc. I mean, in one study, just since 1973, it's been $1.6 trillion to Israel.
Speaker 2But if you look at it collectively, it's well over $20 trillion, because then you also have to pay off so-called allies like Jordan and Egypt billions of dollars a year just to maintain peace treaties with Israel, and all the other residual expenses as well to maintain the Israeli state. So some say it's upwards of 20 trillion plus because of all these so-called wars on terror that Israel caused as well through the Israel Mossad orchestrated 9-11 attacks that they did to cause these wars on terror that never existed otherwise.
@warsawerikThousand percent agree. Yeah, everybody, we pay... egypt and jordan one billion dollars a year to stay allies with israel we pay for that and that's not counted towards that 300 billion and yeah the war uh on iraq and afghanistan is one trillion dollars and yeah for real that should count against it too because we would never have been in war with any of those countries if it was not for any of israel's uh provocations or anything on that too uh well let's go hit up on the next uh question appreciate your truth
@joann_marieAll right. Thank you so much, Eric and Ruth and everybody. Ian, thank you so much for hosting and Rabbi for co-hosting and everybody. Please repost the space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. And follow Ian and Rabbi and Ruth and Eric, our special guest. And seriously, Eric, thank you so much for being here.
@joann_marieAll right. Hold on. I'm glitching with the hands. Karen, go ahead. I miss you. How are you?
Speaker 4Good, good. Was Andy before me?
@joann_marieOh, sorry, I wasn't keeping track. Okay, I'll go to Andy, and then I'll go to you. Okay. Okay. Hey, Andy, how many push-ups have you done today?
Speaker 5I haven't done them yet. I'm probably going to eat dinner.
@joann_marieAh, so misbehaving. Okay.
Speaker 5Hang on, we've got to go to the next hand.
Ian MalcolmAndy, you've got to do ten push-ups, and then we can come back to you.
Speaker 5I haven't eaten yet. I don't know if I have the energy. I'll do them with you, Andy. I haven't eaten yet either.
Speaker 3Let's go.
Ian MalcolmTruth's going to do them with you. Andy, leave the microphone on. Truth's going to do it with you. Truth, microphone on. We need to hear him count it out. Come on, Andy. Actually, you don't even have to do 10. Let's just go to five, and then we'll get the question from you.
Speaker 3No, no, no. Come on, 10. All right, fine.
Ian Malcolm10 it is. I'm hearing something in the background.
Ian MalcolmI heard an exhale. I think we're going. While we're waiting for Andy, everybody should give Karen, who's up here, a follow. She got nuked for absolutely zero reason, at least that I could tell. And she's up here and is one of the all-time greats. So I'll put one of her posts in the nest in case you can't see her, but she should be up there.
Speaker 4Thank you, Ian. Really appreciate it. So Ian kind of helped me rebuild every time. So really appreciate it. And same to you guys, Rabbi Joanne. You guys are great. And Eric, I watch his show all the time. So really honored to kind of be on the panel here with you.
@joann_marieI didn't realize that they nuked you again, Karen. I'm following you. And I made a little post for people to follow you. And I'll send it to my group chats. I'm so sorry. And you're awesome.
Speaker 4Thank you. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmI just reshed that for you, Karen, as well. And Andy, are you back from the, did you get to 10?
Speaker 5I got nine. You got nine. All right, my friend, that's nine more than you had when you started.
Ian MalcolmI love it, Andy. Look at this, making the world better and stronger, one person at a time. So Andy, say hello to Mr. Eric Warsaw and pleased to be able to connect you guys.
Speaker 5Yeah, nice to meet you, Eric Warsaw. I mean, just everything with Iran is completely crazy and it's just really disappointing to see so many people fall for the propaganda. oh, we're going to free Iran. We're just going to install the son of the previous tyrant that killed hundreds of thousands of his own people. People want to say the Ayatollah is repressive.
Speaker 5The previous guy literally killed more of his own people than the Ayatollah, but no one actually studies history. It's completely ridiculous. And the reason the Islamic revolution happened in the first place is the people of Iran did not like the puppet we had installed. So now they think we're going to install the son of the previous puppet that they hated and everything's going to work out perfectly.
Speaker 5This bum literally has never held a job in his life. He just lived off of stolen loot from Iran. And he thinks, oh yeah, I'm just going to run a country. Like imagine, imagine just taking a wealthy Nepo baby and saying, well, we're going to make you president of the United States. Like Donald Trump at least ran a company.
Speaker 5This guy literally hasn't done anything. Seriously. It's a complete joke. It would literally be like making Ronnie James president of the United States. That's basically what we'd be doing. It's a complete joke, and no one seems to understand that. You literally had Lindsey Graham tweet, I hope helps on the way soon. I commented, I saw you say we need regime change in Iran right after October 7th on Fox News.
Speaker 5How about you actually get married and maybe you wouldn't be so obsessed with war? It's completely ridiculous. I think we should be sending the people off who are advocating for this war to fight. So everyone tweeting on Twitter, free Iran, they should fight out. We put Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, Randy Fine, Mark Levin in the cockpits of the F-35s and see how they do.
Speaker 5I think they wouldn't be so pro-war if they were the ones having to dodge Iranian air defenses instead of American soldiers. I think they would change their tune on war quite quick because I don't think they have the ability to pilot an F-35.
@warsawerikFor Iran, they are playing a lot of it on the news. Now, guys, if they did manage to take over Iran, they're going to do the same things they do to all the other countries they take over. They say they're going to give them a democracy, but they already have their puppet leaders ready, like Maria Machado for Venezuela.
@warsawerikThe illusion of democracy, just like how we gave Iraq the illusion of democracy when America invaded Iraq, We gave them the illusion of democracy, and every single leader that we put up there for them to choose from, it was controlled up. You control which choices they have. They privatized everything, just like they did in Russia.
@warsawerikWhen Russia collapsed, the Soviet empire collapsed. They had a whole bunch of Jewish people come in and buy up all the businesses, dirt cheap, just like they did in Syria, just like they're doing over in Venezuela right now. Buy up everything, damn dirt cheap. It's going to be like BlackRock owned. It's just all Jewish ownership, man.
@warsawerikThey're going to kick all the religion. Right now, they burned down 30 mosques. They had agents in there. Guys, there's certain things that protesters don't normally do. Protesters don't normally go around burning shit up. Look at the pro-Pali protests all over the world. Were they burning down anything at all? No. So when there's an excessive amount of damage or burning down stuff, it's usually agent provocateurs with agendas.
@warsawerikThey burned down 30 mosques in the past week and a half in Iran. And they're going to continue. That's one thing they do is they try to make everybody atheist and also put in laws against anti-Semitism everywhere they conquer and take over. Control the education system, make everybody hate their own country, hate their own people, hate their own religion, and give them little rainbow flags to walk around and march around with.
@warsawerikIt's the same tactics everywhere. And then I'm sure right after they freed Iran, as they like to call it, they'll flood it with immigration from India. they know that they've been doing that a lot lately especially with the h1b1 visas there in america where 70 of it goes to people from india because indians or zionists think that indians are going to be loyal to them as allies which uh i think over time they'll wake up really really quick on that one but people from india do not really like christians and they don't like muslims so they think that that's good uh that's good for them to start flooding these countries with people from india
@warsawerikYou know, it's the same old tactics they use for every single country that they subvert. And they do this stuff. The subversion is to keep themselves in power. They do not want people with strong morality, strong religious backbone, anything that's a little too Christian or too Muslim. It's a natural social defense against their takeover.
@warsawerikBecause if you have a strong Muslim country or a strong Christian country, you don't want to be ruled over by a bunch of Jewish people. And they know that. So they subvert religion. They subvert it for power, not just because they hate it.
Speaker 5Saudi Arabia and the UAE, they don't follow the religion that strictly because if they did, they would not accept that those leaders are in power because those leaders there aren't actually following the religion strictly in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. And if you actually look at either the Koran or the Bible, they actually banned usury.
Speaker 5And in the U.S., obviously, Christians don't follow that practice. Or in Europe, we don't follow that. And we should actually go back to that and ban usury because the economy would actually function better. But sadly, we've strayed from our Christian principles, and we have usury. And just look at how that's going. We're $40 trillion in debt, and nobody can afford a home.
Speaker 5It's a complete and utter joke there.
@malleusigYeah, one of the things that I love about going back and reading the Bible is you— you can see what the Jewish version of money lending is. In the Jewish version of money lending, you can't charge outrageous interest, and there's a jubilee every 49 years. And this is presumably because Yahweh, in his infinite wisdom, realized that if you keep an economy going on interest or on usurious loans, then...
@malleusigEvery 80 years or so, it will collapse and you're left with one of three choices. Either you have a war, you forgive all the debts, or you basically wipe out all of the debtors. And all three of those things reset the economy. So how do you fix that? You let people know ahead of time that every 50 years, the 50th year is going to be the year when all the debts are wiped off the books and everyone's free to start again.
@malleusigIt's the only way to keep the economy working. And every other situation... this kind of like usurious banking practice is literally, it's a time bomb. It exists to destroy the economy and then to enrich, you know, the people that are sucking money out of it. And the crazy thing about this, I think that Eric, you touched on this before, is we don't necessarily have to know that the people that are doing these are Jews.
@malleusigWhat we know about them, however, is that the people that are doing it, they hate Christians, they hate Muslims, And they really, really want federal legal protections for Jews. They want Jews to be as protected as possible. That's enough to go on, I feel. I think we can just go on that. And we can say to ourselves, okay, well, this is the problem.
@warsawerikAnd Rabbi, I've seen in your profile that you're offering half off on circumcisions. Thank you so much for that. That's right, but I get to keep the tip. Oh!
@joann_marieHe's selling them on Craigslist.
Ian MalcolmEric, have you come across any of Rabbi's musical endeavors out of curiosity?
@warsawerikNo, I haven't, but I'm interested to know.
Ian MalcolmOh, Rabbi, you've got to fire up 30 seconds of one of your jingles for Eric here. Maybe you could get featured in one of his videos just because they're fantastic.
@malleusigOh, fuck. Yeah, if you would want to feature any of my stuff in a video, I'm totally up for that. Give me a minute. Let somebody else talk, and I'll get my audio set up, okay?
Ian MalcolmLove it. And Eric, you're in for a treat. He's got a whole thing of jingles and commercials and feature films and songs. It's pretty hysterical. But let's go to Thomas for a question for you, Eric.
Speaker 6Yeah, I think, you know, I really just wanted to kind of give Eric his roses, man. Some of the best content that's coming out and you've gotten such a large reach. I think when I first started on this platform, you were one of the larger accounts that I was seeing. And it was just in this wave of the propaganda and the bullshit.
Speaker 6And we really need just people speaking out like you do, Eric. And I wanted to chime in on that. You can look at the cost of the war since 1973, the cost of aiding Israel.
Speaker 6Um, it's like, you know, there was an economic report that came out by an economist named Thomas Stauffer, and he estimated that it was $3 trillion in direct costs to the American taxpayer. And this included like, um, you know, just, uh, different, uh, sanctions and diversions. Uh, we, there's an estimated loss of 275,000 American jobs annually due to trade imbalances, you know, just different, uh, cost of this, like, uh,
Speaker 6You know, like you said, you mentioned directly the aid, direct aid to Egypt and Jordan and loans and weapons. They estimate that to be nearly a trillion dollars, $867 billion in core costs in that. And along with the oil crisis, like $1.5 trillion in U.S. economic losses stem from... the oil disruptions that came about from the 1973, uh, war and on, which were exacerbated by the Arab oil embargo and all of this other stuff.
Speaker 6But a lot of people are woefully unaware of these, this like one sided relationship. And it's become, it's, it's, you know, it's encircled with a lot of like hate and all this other stuff. But you, you, you are one of the many voices that is never famous about hate. It's about this, this situation, how the human rights abuses that are being committed and, and,
Speaker 6No, I just really wanted to thank you, and I'm friends with many people on the panel, and many people on this panel are kind of in that same fight. So really, I thank everybody on this panel. I really appreciate you. I wanted to ask, if I could ask a question, do you think we're gearing – I think what we did in Venezuela was a step toward war in Iran.
Speaker 6I think that with the Saudi coalition going against the Houthis, you have the – we've diminished kind of Russian capacity to assist Iran with the Ukraine war. This step in Venezuela kind of diminished, I think, Chinese oil infrastructure as well as Russian infrastructure. So I think that Iran is obviously the next step in this kind of where we're heading.
Speaker 6But do you feel that way? And do you think we're like close? Because I estimate within the month we'll be committing to strikes or something. The rhetoric has just been dialed up. And I was just removed from a space earlier today for kind of giving the perspective that This isn't going to be simple. We didn't even facilitate a proper regime change, if you want to call it that, in Venezuela.
Speaker 6It's the vice president, Delcy Rodriguez, is still in power. The military hasn't been, there hasn't been an election in Venezuela to change. We were just really just, you know, reinforcing American oil infrastructure with aircraft carriers, right? But do you think we're heading through a war with Iran? And do you think it's happening like this year or beyond?
Speaker 6Because I think we're rapidly approaching that, that we're just in this perfect storm. But no, thank you guys very much for the mic and hope I didn't rattle on too long. I appreciate you guys very much.
@warsawerikYou're good, my friend. I also hit the follow back on you and appreciate you very much. Yeah, since the beginning, I always made sure I did from the very, very beginning. I made sure that I stayed focused on the topic, that this was not a right wing versus left wing issue. And I was explaining to people from the beginning, guys, you know, they control the Republicans and Democrats anyway.
@warsawerikBut this is something that involves all races and all religions and all that. And I kept it very, very balanced and fair. And I made sure to avoid anything that was. a topic that might, you know, irritate an ally because we're all allies against the Zionist guys. They hate all of us. They hate Christians. They hate Muslims.
@warsawerikThey hate Arabs. They hate white people. They hate blacks. They hate Hispanics. They really think that they're the top of the pyramid and that's it. So I always made sure to stay on. And one of the best compliments I ever received, someone told me they watched my videos for a long time and they could never tell if I was a Republican or a Democrat.
@warsawerikThey couldn't even tell what race I was. or what religion I was, I stayed very, very on topic and, uh, posted videos that would, uh, be open to the, like the broadest audience possible. Now, as far as dude, what are these freaking, what are they actually going for? Dude, I think they're going for the whole thing right now.
@warsawerikI think they're going for everything. I think they think that they have all their chips in place and, um, they have this crazy prophecy where they're going to just. rule over the world. Their Messiah, I've done a video, like I did some research for a video. Their Messiah, the Jewish Messiah that's supposed to come, that proved Jesus is wrong and Muhammad was wrong, and then to make all religions illegal except for their own religion, their Messiah is not supposed to be supernatural.
@warsawerikThere's supposed to be some really great Jewish leader who's supposed to become king of the world. rule over everybody outlaw all the other religions and uh basically have that's when the jews will inherit the world and now uh i'm sure you guys have heard at some point about this whole red cows where they they have a prophecy of the red cows where they're supposed to sacrifice them at the third temple and all that but they actually raised genetically modified cows in texas and then had him shipped to israel
@warsawerikfulfill their prophecy so they could bring their messiah and then take over the world but here are things like you're not actually you know genetically modifying cows waiting uh whatever it takes to grow a cow like a decade or so and you're not doing all this stuff unless you honestly believe that this is the generation that this is the the time frame of an actual
@warsawerikuh, like some world domination shit, where if they do not rule the country directly, it'll be rulership indirectly, how they have with most of the countries already in half of Europe, half of the middle East and all of America. So I think they're going for it. I as crazy as sound, but I really think they're going for this, this, this domination shit and they have control over Trump and they don't like Trump.
@warsawerikI think there'll be more than happy. That's one of the things about having a puppet is that if you have control over somebody, you can make them do all the dirty work and all the bad reputation rubs off on them. And you can just replace the puppet with another puppet in four more years. And if you don't like the puppet, then I'm sure they're going to have them jump through hoops and doing a whole bunch of crazy shit.
@warsawerikHappy that his reputation is getting ruined as he's helping along their overall global interests. So I think they're going for it. I think that they... This is their time to flip over Iran. They're going after all the countries that don't have a Rothschild banking system that they don't have control over yet, Venezuela, Cuba, and all these other places.
@warsawerikI think they're going for it. And here's another thing, too. Somebody else pointed out, if Iran would have flipped over to their power, not only is that a huge loss against the BRICS alliance, but with control over Venezuela and Iran, that's like 75% of all the oil that goes to China. And now you have leverage. Like you could just start, you can weaken the superpowers by bumping off all their, their smaller allies, get rid of all the ponds, get rid of like the rook and the horse.
@warsawerikAnd then they're just completely exposed. And you could, uh, You know, with, with Russia and China, I'm sure that they would want to completely avoid direct warfare and try to end Russia the same way they ended Russia before the Soviet empire by completely, uh, putting a noose around their entire economy and then forcing them to topple from within.
@warsawerikKind of what they did with the, with, with the ranch recently, you, you, you intentionally destroy their economy. So have them economically, politically surrounded, cause an internal collapse, replace the leadership with your own stuff. That way you can avoid war and still continue on. But I think they're going for it, man.
@warsawerikI think this is the generation where we're either going to stop them or we're just going to be controlled by them. That is on us, man. That is completely on us at this moment. I hope I answered your question. I'll take the next one.
Speaker 4Joanne, can I speak up? Go for it, Connor. Thank you. Eric, you just hit the nail right on the head. And I was in other forums and nobody touched on that. And because they were all talking about either, you know, whether the Shah was the great leader or, you know, or whether America should continue with this colonial kind of a manifest destination, etc.
Speaker 4But nobody really, I feel like there's this complacency and this delusion. Nobody really sees that the end result is really about colonization and enslavement, all of us. And the fact that, I mean, it was, you know, a time when there was protesting against the Iraqi war. And it clearly, I don't know, the clear break and all their seven country, Wesley Clark kind of plan at the time of all the seven countries, the only one remaining is Iran.
Speaker 4But more than that, they certainly saw themselves. They understood they were the Khazars. And definitely they...
Speaker 4you know, the heavenly Jerusalem project. So if you link, there's Israel to, you know, the former Qazariya and my, from our understanding of them, whatever they touched there, you know, touched before, they think it's their own. So absolutely, they feel they are entitled to all the Eastern European countries, all the way to the Baltic Sea and the Arctic in ambition.
Speaker 4So once you have a line, from Canal all the way to Baltic, you essentially cut Europe in half, Eurasia in half, and the Middle East in half. And you control not just oil, but gas, and you control the grains, you control definitely the logistics, and most importantly, you control water. So essentially, you not only subjugate those on the east, and you subjugate those on the west,
Speaker 4Obviously, we've already seen them kind of, you know, execute their South America plan. So it is the rest of their, especially Americans, we're kind of in the dilemma, right? Like there is a part of, you know, there is the group, they're the boomers, the left, they're actually traditional anti-war. Then you have the millennium and younger Gen Zs.
Speaker 4who don't necessarily want to go to war. And you can have like people like Merit First, who actually talk about the debt, talk about our, you know, not being able to spend the trillions for being the golem for Israel. So these are all good, but I think there is not enough urgency as Eric has seen, sort of say back peeled, to really understand this is the final protocol of the protocol of science.
Speaker 4Literally, it is the final protocol. And yes, they have already sacrificed their red hafaz. They're ready to build their third temple. They're ready. They feel they have all the guys everywhere, mostly, and the ones they cannot take down now, they feel they definitely are the next on the chessboard, right? So here we are.
Speaker 4We're still arguing about these points and not really seeing their forests. So how do we, like...
Speaker 4deal with that so and i kind of want to hear eric's opinion on this too because the way i see it if you look at all these pieces right like whether it's their syrians whether it's their iranians whatever you know every country had like had a minority group that could be ethnically in conflict with the majority, like the Kurds in Turkey, right?
Speaker 4You know, like the Shias and the Sunnis. And you definitely have, like for China, the Uyghurs, right? And who closely aligned with the Turks and closely aligned with Israelis. And definitely you have all these regions in Russia. So none of them perfect. All of them has a record of atrocity. So the thing is, you always have an excuse to kind of oppose them, whether it's democracy, whether it's women's rights, whether it's, you know, like minority rights, etc.
Speaker 4So the thing is, I don't think they have a very coherent plan. Like you said, to make it more and more obvious, they have a plan. And whether, I mean, there's certainly a lot of good Jews, but they definitely look out for their tribe. But there's no opposing party. at the table right now opposing that power at all. People don't even see that power.
Speaker 4So how do we oppose them? And I think absolutely, you know, truth was really great to run down all the lists of what we can do as individuals to do it. But I guess my kind of arguing is there's nobody perfect. And the only way to kind of oppose to say, if we actually balkanize, we kind of resist on the individual level.
Speaker 4we can actually, you know, kind of at least retard their plan. And knowing what they are, they're very vengeful. They're very willful. So they're going to reveal their ambition more and more to the rest of the world and accomplish more and more. So eventually people may, through this zeitgeist or wake of consciousness, as Eric said, will be able to kind of oppose that.
Speaker 4But there is no opposing great power in the world right now to unite everybody. to be against it. The only thing we can do is to actually individually in regional ways to tolerate certain people. So some of the alliances are probably kind of odious. And in a lot of ways, if you look at like people on the right, there's a big population, you know, from say age 20 to age, you know, 70, who are very gung-ho about America power and like, oh, our currency is gonna collapse.
Speaker 4Well, great, let's go get some resources. Like, I don't mind getting Greenland. I don't mind getting Venezuela. So there's still this sort of idea that our interest is intertwined with the Jewish interest. And little do I know that, no, they're going to do whatever they do to the Palestinians, to us. Absolutely. And as they have already done to the Russians, to the Germans.
Speaker 4So I think I do not know what the plan is. I do not know how to do it. I'm actually very... kind of pessimistic to some extent. So I guess I'm just saying, I think the only way is to have this, know the history, the two big things, which is Holocaust can be questioned. Absolutely. Cannot be proven. That's my point.
Ian MalcolmThat's Karen's take on it. Just throwing it out there to be very specific.
Speaker 4No, I'm asking questions. Yeah, like to prove it. But yes. Okay. But more importantly... And I got canned for that. More importantly, to say they could do this to you. They have a plan to do that to you. And I just think for people to really realize that, you know, we're interests are not entirely aligned. So, like, there's part of me, you know, definitely opposed, like, the communist regime in China.
Speaker 4You know, they're not communists, but, you know, authoritarian regime. They're good and bad parts. The truth will disappear. disagree with me and if you look at someone like you know like who came out of iran as kind of a dissident iran they would be like that's good let's like overthrow them but it's very short-sighted so like how how do we wake people up how do we i don't know realize this long-term interest i think it's you know very hard so all right
@malleusigOh, there we go.
Ian MalcolmEric, any thoughts on some of Karen's questions there?
@warsawerikCan you hear me? Yeah.
@joann_marieI think he cannot hear us. Can you hear us?
@warsawerikI'm having a glitch. Hold on. Can you hear me, guys? I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. I'm having a weird, weird glitch. All right. um does that okay oh yeah apparently so one thing that they have that is like unbelievable is their network of coordination like let's say we have an idea like i have here's an idea i want to build a holocaust museum for the palestinians
@warsawerikFor all those that like a Gaza Holocaust Museum, for all those that passed away in the past two years. Okay, we can sit and we can talk about this stuff, but they actually have the ability to sit and think of a clever idea and carry it out. And part of that is because they have like an infinite amount of money, but also they actually hire think tanks like, all right, well, here's the problem.
@warsawerikFind us a solution. And like people at ADL and APAC, Guys, you know, they have 40 hour per week jobs where they do nothing but go to an office and sit and think and work towards how do we influence others and to make in every aspect of society benefit that one group of people. I mean, it's an absolutely amazing system.
@warsawerikof like the coordination and everything behind it and guys remember this isn't just something that popped up overnight this is they've had like over 100 something years to do all this stuff where the zio empire like uh originate from this like absolutely phenomenal intelligence agency that controls absolutely everything it all started with the rothschilds it all started with their invention uh it even says in economic books the rothschild family pretty much invented modern day banking
@warsawerikAnd they made sure to have a monopoly on banking. And through their banking system, they started lending money to individuals, like, you know, hundreds of years ago. But individuals can just pack up their stuff and disappear. If you lend them too much money, they can't pay you back. When you start lending to governments, like if you lend to the government of France or England, the government's not going anywhere.
@warsawerikAnd you're going to get your money back. But by also lending money to governments... You also have influence on politicians, and it was a Rothschild that even once admitted. She said that wars cost a lot of money. If you wanted to go to war, you'd had to go see the Rothschilds first to get the permission and everything from that.
@warsawerikSo they had an unbelievable amount of influence and they kept that power and influence just in the Rothschild family. Eventually as time passed on, they started to fund all these pro Jewish supremacy groups and, uh, their Rothschild family would eventually expand from basically a family owned intelligence agency. Cause even like George Soros, George sources.
@warsawerikis kind of like running a privatized uh intelligence agency of uh influence he's using his billions of dollars to dictate who gets to move to which countries and all these policies in uh in america or in europe too to legalize uh hard drugs and legalize shoplifting and everything like that Like he pays tons of money to influence the politicians, but pays money to people to find out which politicians are open to this sort of stuff and how to carry out his ideas and everything.
@warsawerikIt's an unbelievable, unbelievable system they have. And you know how they have an AIPAC babysitter, like an agent on every single congressman in the country? I've heard Candace Owens talking about where apparently they have something similar to celebrities too. Like, uh, I'll use the rabbi Shmuley as an example, you know, he was a S uh, so-called spiritual advisor to like Michael Jackson and all these other people, Michael Jackson resisted his, um, his influence, but they have like agents and influencers on all of the social media people.
@warsawerikI mean, on all media people too, to inflict because Mara media is an incredibly, incredibly powerful. uh way to influence people and uh there's certain things that are highly suspicious like have you noticed that like what one out of every four celebrities whether it be movie stars or singers or whatever they have transgender children i'm like that's a little bit statistically impossible how the hell are you doing this
@warsawerikbut they make sure all the celebrities are always denouncing certain political things and promoting Israel. And they know exactly what they're doing, man. They have an incredible, incredible system set up. It's, it's kind of like, uh, I don't know. You look at it. Sometimes I study it and it's just like, wow, it is absolutely breathtaking in scope.
@warsawerikHow many institutions that they have to influence and control others and how many people they have like a staff members, uh, APAC is unbelievably big. I think it's staffs like thousands of people. I would love to get a real number, but, you know, I don't trust some of the things I look up. And then ADL, huge. It's just absolutely amazing what they've managed to accomplish.
@warsawerikAnd we have to figure out a way to tear this shit down.
@malleusigYou know what I learned today? One second.
Speaker 5Hang on, Andy.
@malleusigSorry, Andy. Andy's right. If you haven't heard it, check it out. Michael Rechtenwald is heading it. It's fantastic. I was just going to back up with what he said about ADL. I was actually putting together some notes today, and I found out how the ADL's money works, and it's amazing. The way the ADL does it is they get their money from private donors.
@malleusigprivate Jewish donors for the most part, I imagine. But they don't take government money. They don't actually take money from the government. What they do is this. They make recommendations every year to the federal government as to which Jewish organizations should receive more money this year. So they essentially, they lobby the government to give, you know, ex-Jewish organizations.
@malleusigI think, you know, one of them, for example, it was the It was the... Where was it? I forget. It was basically the organization inside of the country that determines how they're going to manage security for faith-based organizations for one, right? I forget the name of it. Somebody has to look it up for me. But there's an organization in America that handles security for faith-based organizations that keeps people safe based on their religion.
@malleusig94% of that money goes to Jews. 94% of that...
@malleusigmoney that is given from the federal government, our tax dollars for the protection of religious minorities or religious groups goes to Jewish groups. And the ADL is the one that lobbies the federal government to say, oh, this year, these people need 500 million or this year they need 300 million or 600 million. And the government takes them very seriously.
@malleusigSo you see how this is beginning to work. Now, the ADL is like, we're going to give we're going to get make sure the government gives you 500 million dollars in public money next year and then you're going to out of the goodness of your own heart not as some kind of quid pro quo but out of the goodness of your own heart because you care for jewish people you're going to donate to us x millions of dollars for our continued running and it's like this perfect way to set it up so that you don't actually ever get criticized for taking public money that is amazing that is like they they they really take this uh
@warsawerikuh to like a genius level don't they uh i mean it's it's an absolutely brilliant system they've set up and i and i've caught a bunch like little tricks and stuff that they do that way too like even apec guys all the money that america gives to israel they they're bribing our politicians with their own money uh which is unbelievable but it's like yeah it's an unbelievable system that they've managed to set up isn't it in the in the debate between rechtenwald and charles kastenbaum
@malleusigAnd I'm going to play the music for a second. But in the debate between Rechtenwald and Shabbos Kestenbaum last week or this week, they touched on this. They touched on the money that goes from American taxpayers to Israel. And Kestenbaum gave the standard deflection with this. Oh, well, Israel doesn't keep the money. Israel uses that money to buy armaments.
@malleusigSo that means the money flows right back into America and helps jobs. What he leaves out, what they always leave out, is that this is essentially a... large scale transfer of public money coming from taxpayers into private hands. It's going into private pockets and it's going into the pockets of the military industrial complex.
@malleusigIt's not going into grandma and grandpa's corner store. It's not going into Jim Bob's construction company. It's going into Raytheon, Boeing, right? All these big companies that already have large Israeli ownership. They already have, for example, huge, jewish ownership in the form of black rock that kind of thing and uh this is not this is essentially they're giving themselves they're getting money from the taxpayers and then giving it back to themselves back to their group by buying weapons and they get the weapons and they get the money the transaction only catches it doesn't go directly to israel so we can't talk about it
@malleusigAnd this is, again, these people are like nuclear physicists when it comes to stealing money. Like they will not, they will let the rest of the idiots steal money, steal 50 bucks from some guy at an ATM at 3 a.m. in the morning. They'll find a way, like they'll take decades to make it legal to steal something from you in this highly convoluted process.
@malleusigAnd then they'll go ahead and do it. And it's absolutely amazing to see. But did you want to hear the music real quick?
@warsawerikYes, go ahead, my friend.
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@warsawerikThat was awesome, my friend. Yes, I love it. I love it. That hit every single stereotype just perfectly right, though. And yeah, listen, you're 100% right. They are like nuclear physicists when it comes to stealing money from the government and the taxpayers in the most clever, absurd ways. Here's another one, too. Remember the whole...
@warsawerikthe all the college kids were protesting uh that their college needs to divest from israel i was looking that up i was like well how many colleges and how much money is actually invested in israel from all these colleges right the number was mind-blowing it was in the hundreds of billions it was like a number that i never expected i'm like man they have the college campuses are set up not just as brainwashing facilities but their whole entire financial endowment system
@warsawerikis in any small way slanted for Israel or Israeli businesses. And it's like, dude, are you freaking kidding me? They have such a detailed control over every aspect of our society. It's mind-blowing sometimes. You think it's a conspiracy theory until you have access to social media and you can look it up yourself and be like, no, that's actually true.
@malleusigAnd the crazy thing is they do it on purpose, but they purposely... exercise and manipulate to such a degree that if anyone gathers all of the different elements into one place and says here look at this look at everything they're doing it looks so absurd that anyone you try to wake up to this kind of thing is like you're crazy like there's no way any group could possibly be doing all of this like oh they control you're telling me they control the banks Hollywood Wall Street
@malleusigcorporate, IT, social. You tell me that you're all of that? Get out of here. That's incorrect. No, I can't believe it. And it's a feature. Like they do it so blatantly and so out in the open because they know if you point it out, it just looks crazy.
@warsawerikYou're 100% right. And I read Mein Kampf when I was in my early 20s. And I thought most of it was conspiracy theory stuff. And then by my late 20s, I was like, hey, you know what? I think some of that stuff is real. Yeah, no, because you're 100% right. They control so goddamn much that it's like you don't even bother to look like that's got to be a conspiracy theory.
@warsawerikAnd you know what the craziest damn thing is, you guys, is that they've had all this power and all this control. it's been right in front of our faces the entire time and most people didn't know what a zionist was three years ago but they were doing it right in front of our faces and uh they had the audacity audacity that if you go and say the complete obvious
@warsawerikThat, hey, they control our banking system or they control the entire media. They'll sit there and look at you right in the face and say you're anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist.
@malleusigAs fucked up as all this is, now that we're learning it, right? But as fucked up as all this is, we were, Americans were completely happy to let it go for decades. Late in the 60s, 70s, 80s, right? like anti-semitism wasn't a thing after world war ii at all i'm actually really doubting if it was a thing before world war ii because i i don't know if i can trust uh what we're told about the world before world war ii but we'll leave that aside for the moment after world war ii um it was not a problem we became the most pro-jewish people in the history of the world i think and um
@malleusigwe were actually quite happy just to let it go on. Like, go ahead and, you know, run Wall Street, whatever. As long as they didn't become a problem, right? As long as they kept making good movies, right? We were just like, okay, whatever, not a big deal. Who cares, right? It wasn't until they became a problem. It wasn't until, you know, they pressure us into saying, like, you know, we believe Israel is the homeland of the Jews and they have a right to live there.
@malleusigAnd we're like, okay, fine. But it was only after... They began to gaslight us on the naked genocide of the Palestinians that I think most of us woke up. Most of us were like, you know what? That's too fucking far, Moshe. I'm not going to... I have a set of beliefs. I have a set of morals that are inalienable. You cannot step on these.
@malleusigAnd you are trying to turn me into an amateur version of you. You're trying to infect me with your hatred. Because you believe... That it's okay to hate other people based on their ethnicity. You believe it's okay to kill people based on their ethnicity. And we know this because it's in their book. And we know this because people like Randy Fine talk about it all the time.
@malleusigYou're not going to get us to buy into that. That's why they hate Christianity so much. Because Christianity has hard, fast, objective morality. They know they can't control us as long as we subscribe to that objective morality. If we do not buy in to their subjective, limited morality that they have, this primitive, bounded morality that they subscribe to and have for 5,000 years, they can never fully control us because we're always going to rebel when asked to commit some atrocity that they think is perfectly fine because the Torah says, no, you're allowed to as long as you wear...
@malleusigone red shoe and one blue shoe while you're doing it and you hop three times and you do it on the before after 7 30 on wednesday night it's totally fine you can kill as many babies as you want we're not going to buy into that and they know and that's why they're trying to destroy basically you know christianity and turn everyone atheist um yeah i just i look at atheists and satanists as amateur jews at this point
@warsawerikYeah, you're 100% right, too. The Great Awakening was not for free. The Great Awakening was at a cost. And unfortunately, that cost was that the low number is 60,000 innocent civilians were killed.
@malleusig0.6 million.
@warsawerikYeah, I've seen the high number. The low number is 60,000. The high number is 600,000. I'm surprised it's not higher. Just because of all the mass starvation and everything.
@malleusigMy new thing is telling them that it's 0.6 million and watching them try and talk me down to 30,000.
@warsawerikThey're not saying 27,100? Yeah, 27,130.
Ian MalcolmThey won't let the international red cross into this one.
@warsawerikyeah but the the the cost was you know there was a cost to the great awakening unfortunately the palestinians had to pay that cost so they will be held up on a pedestal for all of history for the great awakening uh if we win because guys if we lose then they'll villainize the palestinians just like they villainized uh them and the germans back in world war ii so yeah because one guy had a copy of mine confidence house
@joann_marieWe will win, Eric. We will.
@warsawerikWe got to, guys. We got to. I mean, right now, I mean, for real, guys, we can't have the great awakening and then just squander it and then slowly go back into the hypnosis of arguing between left versus right and freaking the kids going through the purged versions of college campuses right now where they're not letting anybody, unless you're like 100% pro-Israel in colleges nowadays.
@warsawerikIt takes, what, 15 years to re-brainwash a society? I don't know if that's possible anymore with social media, but they're finding ways to clamp down on social media. So, I mean, we got to win, guys. We got to win. I mean, to me, it's already set in my head at any cost, at any cost, at any cost. I'm down for whatever. So, everybody else, you got to be mentally and physically ready for this shit, too.
@warsawerikBecause look what they did to the Palestinians. Look what they're doing to like Venezuela and Iran. They're doing, they will stop. They have no moral restraint, whatever it takes to take power. And, you know, at some point they're going to, they're going to stop us. They're going to have to stop all social media. Right.
@warsawerikSo we'll see what happens, man.
@malleusigWell, that's why you got to take it off social media. You got to start teaching your kids. You got to start teaching your kids. You got to start reaching out and making these very tender. overtures towards your neighbors and your friends and saying listen don't don't start off with hey did you hear that you know they couldn't find any bodies under triplinka ever you don't start with that because they've already been indoctrinated together they've been inoculated against that start with talking about all the horrible things israel's doing start with asking them you know i got a little something where's my list start with ask them um you know
@malleusiguh was the holocaust bad because people died or because jews did because people forget you know a lot of non-jews died in the holocaust you know i think there was a five million reported and then when you start talking about you can start talking about well did you know that number actually came from like elie wiesel yeah he wanted to he actually he wanted a number that was was big enough to make it look like the nazis were villains but
@malleusigwasn't more than the number of Jews killed. And then your friends will be like, wait, Ili Vesla just made up the number because he won? Yeah, you didn't hear about that? And then you can start down that route. Or you can start with Randy Fine and making calls on Twitter for, hey, did you know we had a United States senator that literally just called for people to be nuked?
@malleusigReally? When? Like, yeah, Randy Fine, this guy's calling for Gazans to be nuked. Ghazan children to be like literally like saying that Ghazan children deserve to die. No, get out of here. Here's a tweet. Look at that. Start slow.
Ian MalcolmAnd Rabbi, what do you want to bet that Randy Fine also made a tweet saying that we have to respect the dignity of the Iranian people and protect them from being harmed after making comments about nuking all of the Palestinians and trying to guilt trip everybody with that completely illogical or hypocritical stance. Yeah.
@malleusigWhat gets me is like the flip all of them are making. Like, look at Trump. Trump's like, you know, it's like Israel kills, you know, between, let's say, the low to the high, between 30,000 and 700,000 Palestinians in Gaza over the past two years. And Trump's like, oh, not a big deal. They're just defending themselves against the children that are coming at them.
@malleusigThey're going to kill them with rocks, right? Iran kills like what? a dozen of its, not even protesters, kills a dozen of its Mossad agents that are coming in to destabilize the country and do a color revolution. And Trump's like, we will act swiftly and decisively to cripple their, you know, it's like we are going to take them out.
@malleusigIt's like, what? Like, how does this even, like, how do you have any, how does this moral calculus work? Like, if you were going to go into Iran and you're going to take them out, you're going to take away their military capability because they killed a few protesters. even if they were just protesters, right? What about Tel Aviv?
@malleusigWhy did we go into Tel Aviv and take them out? It doesn't make any sense.
@warsawerikThey get more and more hypocritical as they go along, don't they? Thank God for social media. We could point all this shit out, man. I'm glad they lost their ability to have a monopoly over the narrative.
Ian MalcolmWell, speaking of the narrative, and I'm going to give you one here, Eric, and then we'll go to Umar, who I think is very excited to ask you a question. But I'm sure, or maybe he didn't, but I don't know if you saw the controversial semantic contextual scoring that we did this base on yesterday. And the wild part about it is twofold.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'll send you the image of this in case you want to do a... You can do a video or something on it. So I want to congratulate you, I would suppose, because according to this, your score out of a 10, your composite score was an 8.0, which is very, very high. We tested for a whole bunch of people yesterday. 8.0 out of 10.
Ian MalcolmAnd they had you for what they call the OHI, which is strangely also the Online Hate Index, another acronym for that. But the way they lay it out in this, and this is built into the back end of Grok, your observation and pattern recognition, an 8.8 with highly and frequently detailed noticing of Zionist Jewish influence, billionaire control, including Adelson, Singer, Epstein, media business hijacking, institutions of control across AIPAC, the ADL, police training by Israel, on and on and on.
Ian MalcolmIt gave you an 8.6 on the hostility slash animus vector, which is bizarre because everything that you've said here has been in protection of what you think is the good. There hasn't been any animosity or hostility towards anybody except perhaps lying. And then the influence it also has, and like I said, I'll send you this, but the thing that I find wild about it, to what you just said about the lies, the gaslighting, and the social media piece, is that after we noticed this and did a space on it,
Ian MalcolmX decided to change the coding so that it no longer will provide these results. And so we had the ability to not only demonstrate that these things are happening, that they're scoring all of us and all that insanity, but to your point about the willingness to just boldly lie and gaslight everybody, the system's now saying that never happened.
Ian MalcolmEverything that we found is just a crazy conspiracy theory. And it's the power of the internet. that makes it impossible. I mean, they can continue gaslighting. I'm sure if you've been in some of the debates with the group of people that we're talking about, it seems like there's this weird willingness to just distort reality or just boldly lie right to your face as if you're not aware that two plus two is not equal to five, it's four, as they yell at you and say you're a bigot if you don't agree that it is whatever number they're suggesting in the moment.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I just wanted to throw that out there just to add to that point about the... the gaslighting, the inability, right? Because the internet's essentially forever. And I heard somebody say that they believed that ultimately the truth would win out because as long as the internet and our ability to communicate with one another is not extinguished, which maybe they'd like to do that, but that we'll be able to ultimately get these truths that you share, Eric, and so many others do to the rest of the world.
Ian MalcolmSo I just want to, you know, again, thank you for... all the things that you're doing, affirm the gaslighting and the lies and the fact that even with all the control, you know, we're able to find the cracks in the matrix like we did yesterday with this little thing to bring it to everybody's attention. And then when they lie about it, it just makes it all the more obvious about who's in control and all those other things.
Ian MalcolmSo like I said, I'll send you that screenshot though. And then with that being said, I know Umar is very excited to ask you a question, Eric. So let's go down to him.
Speaker 9Hello. Yeah. Hi, guys. I hope you guys can hear me clearly.
Speaker 9I've been on Eric's spaces before and I'm not really here to ask a question. I just come on to like share a bit of my wisdom because this is like one of the topics that I just research all the time. So a few points. Number one, the Rothschilds are very important, but they're not the only family. from history, they're like, you know, like what they call the Illuminati, basically it's the 13 families because obviously the Rothschilds can only inbreed so much before they started going crazy.
Speaker 9So they have like these, the Warburgs and the Rockefellers and you, you guys probably have like heard of them, but you don't really know them because they, they're not in the, in the mainstream as much as the Rothschilds are. And the second thing is that, so like people say like the, The Nazis were, like, really evil and all this shit.
Speaker 9Like, I'm not saying Hitler was, like, a great guy or, like, he was, like, a saint or, like, anything like that. Even, like, the fact is that he was also partnered with the Zionists before he came to power. That is how he came to power. Like, they were the ones who actually funded him. Like, in the beginning, it was actually Zionists.
Speaker 9No, they did. They did fund him.
Ian MalcolmSo, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. So, here's what I'm going to do. Joanne, if you wouldn't mind, would you put a pole into the purple pill? We'll put it up into the nest. And we are going to ask if we would like Truth Teller to embarrass Umar in this space along with Eric. We can have the two of them. It'll be a tag team match.
Ian MalcolmAnd Umar, I'm sorry, it's going to be two against one because I don't think anybody else is going to agree to take your side. If they want to, they're welcome to. But if Joanne...
Speaker 9This is not me saying that Hitler was, like, totally with them. I'm just saying that they did fund him, but he did turn on them in the end. And he's the only person in history.
@joann_marieYeah, but that's not true, though.
Speaker 9Like, he's the only person ever who has ever, like, on record actually arrested members of the Rothschild family. Like, he arrested four of them. And they all got released in, like, I think 1938, late 1938. And as soon as they got released, the Poland... stuff started to happen. And then Soviet Union and Germany invaded and then basically World War II started.
Speaker 3The entire history is wrong. That's not what happened at all.
Speaker 2Right in 1933, as soon as the National Socialists took power, Judea declared war against Germany and organized an international boycott. And Hitler was actually financed by a bunch of German industrialists and entrepreneurs that weren't Jews. The Jews were against the National Socialists from the very beginning in the 1920s.
Speaker 2That's just a myth the Jews put out there to try to claim and demoralize anyone that believes in national socialism and say, hey, look, we control that too. They never did. And they actually immediately arrested the Rothschilds in 1933 and released them after they charged, of course, a release fee, which was paid. It was like 700,000 or 800,000 pounds or whatever it was or dollars.
Speaker 2I can't remember. They, of course, canceled all the debt going to the banks as well and also seized all of the assets, the banks, insurance companies, everything the Rothschilds owned in Germany. And then they replicated that in 1938. in Austria, and then they did the same thing in 1940 as well to the Rothschilds all the way throughout.
Speaker 2So the National Socialists were essentially funded by German industrials, and they took membership fees from those, of course, they were members of their party. That's how they were financed. I've actually got a list of the individual financiers, too. I made a painstaking threat to prove that that's just a myth and a lie that Jews put out in their textbooks to try to claim that, yeah, we even control the National Socialists as well.
Speaker 2They were against them from the very beginning. It was, in fact, Conrad Hayden. who came up with the term Nazi in around 1922 to describe the National Socialists as like bumpkins, simpletons, just like, you know, a low intelligence.
Speaker 9Yeah, that is true. That is true. They didn't call themselves Nazis. That was actually a derogatory term that was given to them by the Jews. I do agree with that.
Speaker 2Also, specifically. So they were against them from the very beginning, so they never financed them.
Speaker 9Yes, yes. No, I will concede on that point. If you can share that thread with me, I would love to read that. uh but what i was going to say was that uh i think i've mentioned this on uh on eric's face before as well that the holocaust right like the six million figure it really doesn't make any sense because like i've i've viewed like the numbers of like the number of jews in in europe at that time and then you know obviously they say oh these people
Speaker 9Like, some of them went to America, and the others went to, like, Palestine, and some of them went to, like, other parts of Europe where they were safe, and some of them went to the Soviet Union. So, like, they already admit that over a million of them even escaped, that they admit. I think it was more than that. And then they say that, oh, but 6 million died.
Speaker 33.8 million survivors is what they claim after 1945.
Speaker 9Yeah, no, no, that's not true. That is not true at all. But, yeah, so... It doesn't really make any sense because if you think about it, to kill 6 million people in five years or six years, I would say, you have to kill at least 80 people.
Speaker 9Not even 80, I think over 110 people per hour or something like that. It's a really absurd figure. People forget that Germany was fighting a war on six fronts. It wasn't just like, oh, yeah. the germans are just killing jews and then one day just nazi germany just implodes on itself you know like that's that's not how it happened and secondly like the germans had like nerve agents and actual like things that could kill people really fast but they they somehow they chose to use uh cyanide and uh what do you call it zyglon b which is used to like kill lice you know which doesn't really make any sense also if you look at the photos from auschwitz
Speaker 9from before 1944, there's no chimney. So, you know, and they say, oh, there's this little pond that we just put all the ashes in. And yeah, well, if you put six million ashes or even like one million people's ashes in a pond, it's going to be it's not going to remain a pond after that. Like, that's just common sense.
@malleusigAnd one of the things that I like to do, I like to stay away from the more obvious things that people share on this. And I like to share with them a quote from Edgar J. Steele. on holocaust survivors he wrote in all of german occupied europe there resided 2.4 million jews before the war according to the world jewish encyclopedia after the war 3.8 million jewish holocaust survivors were receiving pensions from the german government tragically the remaining 6 million were lost
Speaker 9Yes, that is where... Oh, yeah, I think I have that saved in my gallery.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to put down the thread of who financed the National Socialists. So Frederick Flick, for instance, was the one he financed from 1929 and 1932, including the amount that he contributed. You know what's funny to me is whenever I challenge any of these individuals that make that claim that the Rothschilds financed them, I'm like, well, how much?
Speaker 2How many millions was it? Because we know how much, for instance, Jacob Schiff gave to the... to the Soviet Jews or to Trotsky specifically around 20 million. There's an exact number. There's documentation. There isn't a single document that is beyond what they claim or a receipt to prove that any of them were financed by the Rothschilds or any of the, and by the way, a lot of people do know it's Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb or Max Paul, Felix Warburg, Jacob Schiff, the other members of the, that ran the financial, they all worked for each other.
Speaker 2They're all working with each other and none of the Rothschilds before the Federal Reserve was even established all the way back in, you know, late 1890s, et cetera, in Germany before they came to America. So it is quite well known. There are a bunch of other Jewish banksters involved. Karl Kupfler is another financier.
Speaker 2Kurt von Schroeder is another one. Anyway, the threads in there, you can check it out, who the big funders were. There were no Jews Rothschilds, zero German industrialist entrepreneurs. The Jews were actually opposing the National Socialists all right from their inception when Gottfried Better came out with the 25-point plan that most people may not be aware of, but I think more people in this space are, you know, educated on what the National Socialist platform actually was.
Speaker 2that oppose Jewry.
@malleusigThere's only one thing that sticks in my brain, when we talk about this topic, and that is the Havre Agreement. And I've seen the coin. So does that represent cooperation between the Nazis and the Zionists? Or is that some kind of a cynical transaction between them?
@warsawerikThe quick answer to that is they were just trying to kick them out. Like a small amount of cooperation to kick them out.
Speaker 2Eric, it was a response. Because what happened is they first issued They initiated the international boycott and war against Germany. So in exchange for relieving some of the sanctions, again, remember the time of the decade when they took power. It was the worst point in Germany's history. Over 30% unemployment, high inflation, demoralization.
Speaker 2The country was completely out of whack, on the verge of complete bankruptcy. Plus they owed that $6.6 billion fine from World War I from Treaty of Versailles. They made a deal for 60,000 Germans, which represented less than 5% of the Jewish population. There was over half a million at the time to get transferred over to Palestine at the time in exchange for relieving that international sanction.
Speaker 2And again, that was over the course through into World War II as well. So that was it. And many of them were just kicked out, like Magnus Hirschfeld, everyone from the Institute of Sexuality, everybody from the Frankfurt School, from Max Warburg, of course, Herbert Marcuse. Every one of those Jews got kicked out. You know, they accommodated only about 60,000 and, you know, the rest were either left and the ones that remained, you know, and there were some that remained and they abided by the laws of the land and their businesses actually did quite well and they were protected.
Speaker 2Hitler wasn't just some, you know, raging anti-Jew. He wasn't. He was against the Marxist Jews specifically, the Soviet Jews, many of them. They were in the country to reap the wealth and destroy the country financially through, of course, Jewsery and insisting on the dead and, of course, demoralizing the country because they also ran the media.
Speaker 2And, you know, the news, the movies and all the other crap they were doing. And with the degeneracy was so bad that besides, you know, rabid prostitution, pimping and all that stuff they were doing, which, by the way. They've been doing this since V. McDowell, since the 1870s, believe it or not, for well over 50 years.
Speaker 2And they were bringing in whores, unfortunately, from Germany, from Russia, into like Argentina and other places to get them used and abused. I love that you brought up V. McDowell. This is one of my favorite subjects. In New York, because they had a global human trafficking ring going on long before anybody, before geography even existed.
Speaker 2So the Jews have always been rabid criminals into pimping, prostitution, degeneracy, Jewsery, you know, Sherlocking, you name it. Every crime in the book they were already committing. long before the National Socialists took power. So they put an end to all that stuff in Germany.
Speaker 9Yeah, no, no, that is true. The National Socialists were not, they were basically like, how do you say it, like a reaction to what the Jews did to Europe, basically. Yeah, that is 100% true. And one person who was on the Jewish payroll was Winston Churchill. Now that is a fact, because he was like a, He was like a really big gambler and a drinker as well.
Speaker 9He liked to indulge himself overly. And he basically lost a lot of money. And he had to basically repay, I think, like 19,000 pounds or like 18,000 pounds, something like that. So he had to basically sell off his estate, his really famous estate that everybody goes to visit now these days. He had to sell it off, basically.
Speaker 9He was going to. Then these Jewish Zionists, these bankers came to him and they were like, oh, yeah, we can pay that off for you. No big deal. But you just... And we'll even, like, make you prime minister again. But you just got to remember who your friends are. And he said, yeah, that's cool.
@malleusigIsn't that amazing, Amar? Isn't that amazing, Amar? Like, the people that are peddling liquor and gambling, right, then they entrap you. They entrap you in that. It starts with having a gambling addiction. And then over the course of, you know, the continued kind of, like, you know, weaponization, the continued taking advantage of that.
@malleusigthey beat Germany and they get like essentially all of Europe in their hands, right? Think of the value to them of things like gambling and alcohol beyond the immediate monetary amount. It's actually mind-blowing when you think about it.
Speaker 9If you think about it, the Jews, right? I'm not saying like 100% of the Jews, but I would say like 95% of the Jews, right? They are like an allegory to Satan.
@malleusigIf you think about it, I think they give you like everything for Satan.
Speaker 9Yeah, because they give you everything that you want in this life, not in the next one. They ruin your next life, but this life, they give you everything you want. If you stick by them or take whatever they want as well.
@joann_marieAnd thank you so much. Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Rabbi. And then, because we do have a lot of hands and also, so I was just going to agree with you more.
@malleusigAnd I was going to add that if you look at all the, all the villains in our in our fables like the witches uh the the vampires witches vampires even pinocchio like it's no accident that the the penalty for lying is a large nose right It's almost like we have all of this symbology encoded into our culture. Almost like we were trying to warn our own children against these people because they probably also existed in an atmosphere where you weren't allowed to talk about them.
@malleusigSo they had to encode it into the fairy tales. And it's like, it's amazing. We're just waking up to all of it now.
@joann_marieThat was really funny. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmRabbi, we're going to have to do a space at some point on Pinocchio specifically, not just the noses, but also the island that he goes to.
@malleusigThere's some very strange... Oh yeah, Pleasure Island.
Ian MalcolmYeah, there's some really weird subtext in there.
@warsawerikOh man, you've seen that too, that clip? Guys, I recommend anybody watching that Pinocchio clip where they make references to a pleasure island for a kid. Like, dude, why would you put that in the Disney movie at all to begin with? Yeah, that's creepy.
@malleusigWell, Disney, and not to over-talk the hands, I want to get to them really quickly, but just so you know, Disney has been heavily involved with the CIA from the beginnings, or from after the war, essentially. Walt Disney was actually... he was harassed by Jews when he was starting up his studio. And then what seems to have happened is somewhere during the war, they flipped him either probably through threats of coercion.
@malleusigAnd then he was down with the Jews. He was down with the CIA. And then, I mean, things like how they get the land for Disney World in Florida. The CIA helped them get that land for some reason. And so a lot of the messaging you see in Disney movies is part of that CIA programming shit they do.
@malleusigBut let's go to Karen's got her hands up. I don't see anyone's hands up, but we'll go to Karen. Definitely.
Speaker 4Yeah, we have so many hands. Oh, yeah, go for it. Quick point. Quick point. Yeah. So just. going back to sort of this Havar transfer, right? So there's so much emphasis on actually the Germans facilitating that. Obviously, there's the pretext that Eric said, just kick them out and no longer the Germans' problems. And there was fair compensation.
Speaker 4But one point I always want to point to people is that at the time, Palestine was governed by the British. It was the British land. Nobody can enter into any of our transfer any agreement to settle Jews without the Brits agreement. So that fact is really sidestepped. And then you see like sort of like the Grand Mufti's picture with, you know, Hitler everywhere.
Speaker 4But you would never see actually the other person in the picture who is actually the commissioner for the Palestine by the British government. It was. Samuel, I forgot his first name. It was a Jewish person. Okay, so it was this, you know, Russia lobbying of the British government to continue the war with Germany in World War I after the peace treaty from Germany is already on the table.
Speaker 4They rejected the peace treaty. And honestly, sank Lusitania, got America into war, and took Palestine from Ottoman Empire. And very interesting, the Buffalo Declaration, all of that, even designed this kind of a project started by after the Middle East had discovered oil, like one year after. So, I mean, basically, the whole Ottoman was taken.
Speaker 4taken down and Germany was just collateral damage because they wanted Palestine. They wanted oil. So the whole time when Hitler and Germany was basically a sideshow, whatever the Havara settlement was a sideshow. The main show is this British Jewish commissioner was lobbying to settle these Jews. And they worked with the Zionists to lobby the German government to settle these Jews.
Speaker 4That's what it is. And of course, the other point is this Zionist versus the Bolshevist, the good Jew versus the bad Jew kind of dichotomy that Churchill put in the Herald Sunday, Herald 1920. So there's that going on as well. And to speak to the other point, which is by 1938, look it up. all of the Jewish population in Germany was 300,000, or less than 300,000 by 1939.
Speaker 4A lot of them emigrated by then. And half of that, 150,000 Jewish ethnicity were in Adolf Hitler's army. And you would imagine that, you know, it's an extremely high proportion, more than the IDF population in Israel. And you would imagine they also have family. They're not military age. So essentially, most of the Jews in Germany by that time were pro, you know, their, you know, whatever, NSDAP government.
Speaker 4And of course, probably a lot of them later on received reparation, I mean, reparation from the German, you know, government after they emigrated probably to Israel, America after the war. So that's one point I want to talk about, like Havara. And the other is talking about the gambling and the liquor. I want to emphasize with people,
Speaker 4in their pale residents, the residents pale, which is most of the Ashkenazis, right? Their main 30% to 40%, and this is like verified with Grok and whatever, were engaged in alcohol trade, in alcohol trade and tavern trades. All right, so that's like working age people, 30% to 40% of the entire residents. So the entirety is like bulk of the Jewish Ashkenazi population
Speaker 4were residing in the pale were involved in that trade and you would say okay well that shows their degeneracy but i think more than that it illustrates there it is because there is not as much kind of a rampant like alcoholism in them right there's not as i mean there's some definitely a lot of incest and whatever but it is a weapon if you can think about porn hub
Speaker 4operated by the rabbis right you it is a weapon it's a religious duty for them to poison other people and through that as well i said taking off the land of the german i mean of the slavs and that's triggered a lot of what they call pogrom but i can go into that later but anyway i just want to make those points those are good points and yeah you're 100 correct and it's like liquor gambling prostitution these three things you see service over and over again and they do it because it weakens the rest of us
@malleusigWhat's that truth?
Speaker 3Drug trade as well as the Sun family is running the biggest opium drug trade in the world from in around the 1830s all the way up to like the 19, almost 100, over 100 years.
@joann_marieI wanted to add really quick. Also, Hitler regretted the Havara agreement because he tried to take Palestine back with Operation Atlas. It was a very small operation, but I mean, he tried.
@malleusigHow great would it have been if he succeeded in that, man? That would have been awesome.
@joann_marieI know.
Speaker 10everything would be so much different right now all right go for it khan thank you thank you for hosting this uh i just wanted to uh greet eric and all of you guys as well um eric are you still with us yes i'm listening my friend what's going on man hey we spoke uh about two months ago you know he put me on the phone with you all sitting with him if you recall
Speaker 10And, uh, I just wanted to check with you. I actually do have a question because if you recall that day, I said to you, oh, they still let you have their, your TikTok account. That's incredible. That's great. I'm so happy. I mean, like, cause I thought after Alison took over, they were going to take that away from you. And I think four hours or five hours later, they took it away.
Speaker 10Which means that that was the importance of that conversation from what I saw. I remember Ken just told me, or I think I was online at that time and I saw that. So. I just wanted to greet you again and salute you. And of course, um, if you recall, we had a conversation about JP two and at this point, you know, uh, they have gone full attack mode in my personal life.
Speaker 10So I have to deal with that, but God willing, you'll be over soon. And, uh, I definitely want to invite you to come to the next conference.
@warsawerikHey man, uh, send me a DM. Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. A hundred percent. I do remember that conversation. Yeah. They took my, uh,
Speaker 10uh man they completely demolished my tech talk uh that was that i think if you go back and look it would have been november 22nd 23rd go back and look i think it was that day because i talked to you and then literally that day because i was like congratulating i was like oh you bypassed them or you said like i think uh they had taken a bunch of accounts down and then um i think that they led some back on because it just got too hostile and it was like it's too obvious
Speaker 10So yours was one of those that they let back on, and I believe four or five hours after that conversation, I think they took it down. I felt bad, man, because I was like, damn, we brought too much attention to it. Because you were doing great work on there, and I appreciate and salute you, obviously. So, yeah, I just wanted to reiterate.
Speaker 10And I think I had followed you then. I don't know what happened, but I just followed you again. We should definitely connect on a longer call soon.
@warsawerikYeah, send me a direct message.
Speaker 10I don't know why.
@warsawerikI'm always in contact with Ken O'Keefe, too. Ken O'Keefe is a friend of mine.
Speaker 10Yeah, yeah. Well, I know. And I saw your interview with him. And we did a couple episodes ourselves for the JP Project right after that. He wanted to memorialize Hermitage. And we also did an interview with Mary Fagan Keene, who is the great niece of Mary Fagan, who was raped and murdered by Leo Frank, which gave birth to the ADL.
Speaker 10And so... I think he might have told you about that. He's gone now. But, yeah, we definitely need to connect. And it's not working on here because I don't know why it won't let me DM you here. But I did follow you here. And let's connect on Telegram. I think there was a thread somewhere. So we should reconvene there.
@warsawerikOkay. And, yeah, I told Ken O'Keefe, you can have my personal phone number and everything, too. So definitely want to connect with you on that, my friend. And yeah, the foundation of the ADL is absolutely amazing. Like, dude, just every aspect of their empire is just built on evil, isn't it? They truly are just working for the damn devil, man.
@warsawerikGuys, I got to mention this really, really quick, right? So I read this book a long time ago. It was called The History of the Devil. And it was basically how the devil was perceived through various religions and everything like that. the book starts off going way back to our like primordial times where it it said that we all like all humanity we used to worship the devil back in uh when we were first starting off like worshiping trees and nature and this and that whenever there was like thunder or just like bad natural disasters people thought like oh there's gods and the gods are angry at us we must sacrifice to these things so even though whatever they may have called it
@warsawerikhowever they may perceived it it was a uh this god-like creature was angry at the people to send natural disasters and thunder and lightning all this stuff but whatever they may have called it like in essence that is the devil like it's it's an evil being an evil crazy being and like even in like modern day times whatever they think their god is
@warsaweriktheir god is telling them to conquer the world on their behalf to enslave and to that that everyone's just cattle goy that's what it translates to that we're all just cattle and that none of us are going to none of us are going to heaven anyway we're all going to hell because we're all the wrong bloodline or the wrong religion or whatever so it's okay to misuse us so in essence they really do worship the devil
@warsawerikBecause by definition, that is what the devil is. Regardless of whatever they may outwardly call him, that is what the devil is. No righteous good God would ever tell you to go and enslave people, commit acts of genocide, that everyone else is just cattle, and all this other crazy shit. They really do worship the devil.
@malleusigYeah, it comes from a little bit closer to us than that, but it comes from the fact that in the Mediterranean, 2,000 to 5,000 years ago, the dominant mode of worship of any religion was human sacrifice. This is the Canaanites. This is the Baal worshippers. This is the Ishtar worshippers. This is even the Romans. I mean, this is the area around them as well.
@malleusigI mean, it was before the Romans really became a thing, but the people that live in that area, they were still human sacrifice style worshippers. This was the dominant mode of religion for a very long time. And it comes from, like you said, if you see an eclipse or you see lightning or something like that, and you have a bunch of people that are afraid of it, then they're not necessarily going to jump to human sacrifice.
@malleusigBut you leave the door open for one of the more, let's say, crafty individuals in that population to say, this is a chance for me to seize power. by claiming that I can satiate the bloodthirsty gods that are wrecking this havoc if they'll just give me someone that we can sacrifice to them. And thus, it just turns into this way that people can gain power over others.
@malleusigIt's the same thing that always happens with everything. It's just humans wanting power over other humans.
@warsawerikStudying politics and studying religion and everything, it's also studying human nature and human psychology, isn't it?
@malleusigpretty fascinating yeah i mean there's a reason why there's a reason why the two things you don't talk around you don't talk uh about around the dinner table are religion and politics it's because they're basically the same thing those are my favorite topics anyway um i know yeah and that's why we're here yes
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Speaker 11Hey, thanks, Joanne, Ian, Rabbi, and Eric. Thanks for coming in, man. Yeah, I don't know how I wasn't following you before. I swear I was.
Speaker 11Just to go back a little bit to get some context to my question here. When October 7th kicked off and I was debating with people on here, I was always really careful at first to use the word Zionist and to make sure I never said anything about Jews. I was always Zionist, Zionist. And I would have these debates with people that were seemingly civil, intellectual debates.
Speaker 11And then at the end of it, they'd be like, well, why do you deny the Holocaust? And I'm like, whoa. we didn't mention World War II, let alone the Holocaust. Like, what do you mean? They're like, well, why are you such an anti-Semite? And I'd be like, bro, I literally didn't say a word about the Jews the whole time. I went out of my way to say Zionist.
Speaker 11And I kept running into this. So then I was like, you know what? People keep telling me that I'm a Holocaust denier. Maybe I should look into this a little more because I never really looked into the Holocaust that much. And then I started looking into it and I started asking some questions and having some questions. And honestly, some of your videos were somewhere I got some great information that really gave me some resources and gave me some directions to look into.
Speaker 11So I'm very grateful for that. And the way that you do your videos is very easy for me to show other people, too. It's not offensive. It's very fact-driven. And so I really appreciate that. And so my question to you is, what started you down this whole path of noticing? What was it that set you off and that made you start doing the kind of work that you do?
@warsawerikuh so yeah that's that's my question i appreciate it in my late 20s um man it's like for my awakening and anybody's awakening uh there was always like a thousand little awakenings followed by like you know some big bangs and here and there But it's not like whenever we woke up, we all woke up in one night. It was like a thousand little steps.
@warsawerikSo I can take off some of the smaller, some of my bigger leaps, like realizing the Iraq war was unjust because I believe the false narrative at first. And I just thought it was kind of, I didn't think that the government would go so far as to lie about everything about the Iraq war. I thought there really was weapons of mass destruction.
@warsawerikI believe the whole entire lie. and uh waking up the iraq war i read the quran somebody recommended that i read the quran for political reasons it was an aryan brotherhood guy actually and uh he said yeah i read the quran i read the quran and i was very shocked to to realize that because you know in american media you're always taught that like the quran is evil the quran is uh anti-christian
@warsawerikThe Quran is all about conquering. And then you read the Quran, you found the exact opposite. I was actually completely shocked to find Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Adam and Eve, Moses, all that, all those stories. I thought it was like a foreign hateful religion that I read the Quran. I'm like, huh? Why was I lied to about that my entire life and stuff like that?
@warsawerikYou know? And then, um, uh, you know, I read my income in my early twenties, but like, it was fascinating. But I thought it was like conspiracy theories, like on, on, uh, this whole Jewish supremacy stuff. And then in my late twenties, I read a book by Ian Kershaw called nemesis. It was pros IO anti-German, but he was, uh, I read this one chapter.
@warsawerikI mean, really the whole freaking book was mine. It was blowing my mind. I thought Hitler was a right wing extremist. And then you, the first thing you learn about, uh, Germany is like, no, there's left wing socialism. Uh, you hear that like, uh, that Hitler was an angry yelling man and all he was, they, they freaking, they adored him.
@warsawerikHe was, uh, uh, the world's biggest sex symbol at the time nominated for the Nobel peace prize, 1939, the Jews made sure that that was retracted. Uh, he was a vegetarian. He could not bear to see animals being harmed and on like the, on, on movies and stuff like that. Uh, he did not smoke. He did not drink. Um, but yeah, you get a whole completely different picture of the guy and it's just like, man, I was lied to so damn much.
@warsawerikAnd then there's a chapter on, on the, the concentration camps and the book attempted to take every single argument that saying that it was all a hoax and try to refute it. And it was acknowledging things along the way. Like it was acknowledging, uh, in the, no gas chambers was ever found. Every single gas chamber is a reconstruction based on eyewitness testimony, allegedly.
@warsawerikBut they admitted that there was no gas chambers ever found. And Hitler never gave any orders. They have all of Hitler's orders because the Nazis were very, very organized. They have, like, even in America, the president's executive orders, they have all of them in every single number. No numbers are missing. They have all of his official orders.
@warsawerikThere was never any orders to carry out, uh, mass killings of anybody. They have all of his military generals journals. He never passed down orders through any of his mill through anybody at all, telling him to go, uh, start liquidating in the concentration camps. There was never any proof of that. And like, you're going through everything and it's just like, you start realizing like, Holy crap, man, everything I ever learned was a fucking lie.
@warsawerikLike from the Iraq war to world war two was just completely freaking wrong. You find out about the Bolsheviks and you're like, holy shit. If I know about the Gulags, the holiday more, the freaking swimming pools and the concentration camps, you find out the international red cross had access to the camps. It's you, you start reading all this stuff and it's like irrefutable.
@warsawerikAnd you really, really just start. And then I started like really become obsessed with reading real history and finding out what the hell really happened in my late twenties. And I spent over a decade, decade and change just obsessively reading, like anything I could possibly find, uh, of like, you know, accurate history and everything like that.
@warsawerikAnd just cause it's fascinating. It's absolutely fascinating. Like the matrix that they put us in this like big giant brainwashing machine. Uh, and. It's interesting because you're also driven by curiosity and knowledge of this stuff, like knowledge of the truth. And it's just one hell of a mental journey, man. And because I woke up so late in my life, I think that's one of the things that I'm really good at waking other people up because I have a hell of patience.
@warsawerikI'm like, man, I realized it took me years to wake the fuck up. I was, you know, I was...
@warsawerikI was advocating for the stupid Iraq war for a few years before I woke up. So I have the patience and I also know that, dude, it's a process and keep hitting the process. Take them every single little small step and then eventually they'll wake up one day and it'll just click in. It'll click in.
@malleusigWhat was amazing for me, Eric, was when I realized just how patient and subtle and insidious these people were about this. One of the things that I encourage everyone to do is to go back and watch movies and TV shows that you enjoyed either as a child or an adolescent or whatever. I'm talking like 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000s kind of stuff.
@malleusigAnd play a game that I like to call spot design as propaganda. Like, for example, you will find in certain movies and TV shows. you will find there are lines or scenes that are just injected in that sometimes it's just a joke. It's just injected in that serves no purpose to the plot, but it's there to reinforce this idea that either Nazis were the worst thing possible or that Jews are awesome, they're just helpless victims, right?
@malleusigThere was the line in... Dragnet, where Dan Aykroyd is being tied up by the bad guy, and he says that, if you don't let us go, I'll bring down the greatest fighting force in history on your head. And he's like, the Israelis? And the joke is that at that time, the Israelis were being marked as the greatest army in the world.
@malleusigAnd this just gets repeated, right? This is the joke. If you look at American Graffiti, there's a whole subplot. Is it American Graffiti? I think it's Porky's. There's a whole subplot where one of the main characters, his... his struggle against his dad because his dad is like this weird, even for the 1950s, weirdly out of place, over-the-top anti-Semite, and he goes through this process where he fights his own dad and denounces him in front of his friends, and his friends cheer him, right?
@malleusigYou look at movies like A Few Good Men, and you have the Jewish character that's like Tom Cruise's best friend slash secretary or whatever, and he never talks about being Jewish, but... He talks about the reasons why he wants to nail this guy in this court case is because he hates bullies. And he knows what it's like to grow up with bullies because he and his people were picked on growing up by bullies all the time.
@malleusigAnd it's like you go back and you just watch these TV shows and these movies and they start to jump out like there's a big red circle drawn around them after you wake up to this stuff. And you're like, yeah, what does that serve to the plot? Is it just there? I mean, did we need a flashback to Woody Allen's childhood to see that his parents found out that their black housekeeper had stolen some money from them just so that his father could be like, yeah, it's OK, let it go.
@malleusigThe blacks, they suffer from discrimination just like us Jews. You know, it's like at this point, it's just marketing. It's just this marketing idea that Jews are oppressed by whites. They're solidary with blacks. They've always picked on. They don't really do anything to hurt anyone. They're just kind of like lovable comedians.
@malleusigBut for some reason, everyone just starts to hate them illogically, unreasonably, irrationally from time to time. And when you see that messaging being inserted so blatantly and so out of place, you're like, hold on a second. Who's paying to put that in? Because someone has to be paying for that to be in there. But I'll stop here.
@malleusigI'm sorry. Go ahead.
Speaker 11So it's all 100% right.
Speaker 11Since you touched on that, Rabbi, my best friend is of German heritage and her grandfather was actually a Hitler youth. But she used to get bullied in school because she was German and of German descent. And they would bully her because they would call her a Nazi. And she was a young kid. She didn't have any kind of certain views.
Speaker 11But just because of her German heritage, she would get bullied in school. And now, you know, I've kind of helped her. not just me but through her family and me and her together like i've kind of gone on this whole noticing journey and uh and now we have a lot of inside jokes and stuff about it but yeah i thought that that was something interesting when she was talking about her childhood how she was literally bullied by by jewish kids for being german and having a german mom uh so like you know it goes it goes the other way that needs to be in the movie one last thing i'm i'm sorry that needs to be oh yes yeah it doesn't need to be in a movie yeah yes it should be uh and then uh
Speaker 11I threw down there in the purple pill when we were talking about the different folklore and everything is Rumpelstiltskin is a great example of that, of our ancestors trying to warn us about Jewish behavior, as well as there's something else I put in that same post was with the story of Three Little Pigs and the Disney rendition of it pre-World War II.
Speaker 11and then after World War II and how they changed what the big bag would have looked at. That image I put down there has been verified as being real.
@malleusigThat wasn't after World War II. The Jews made him change it. They made him change it soon after he had made it, actually, after release, I think.
Speaker 11You could be correct. I thought that it... Okay, you might be correct in that.
@malleusigI think Canary might, actually. I think she... Karen made a... She put down a really, really good, huge, long wall of text about Walt Disney and the Jews in early Hollywood, and that was part of it. But yeah, the Rumpelstiltskin thing. You know what's crazy about Rumpelstiltskin, Freddick? What beat Rumpelstiltskin? What made him shrivel up and blow away?
Speaker 11Calling him by his name.
@malleusigCalling him by his name. As soon as you name Rumpelstiltskin, he blows away. Isn't that crazy?
@joann_marieThat is amazing. I never thought of this. I asked Rock because I watched the movie when I was little and then I forgot what it was about. And I was like, this sounds familiar. Let's see. That's crazy. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 11All of that's in the post that I put down there in the purple pill. It says that same thing about calling him by his name, making wealth out of nothing. You know, all of the things that, you know, that these chosen people are. that they do so a lot of and then the old uh you can also look at the i think somebody mentioned earlier with uh the witches and like and the witch's hat was actually the judean hat that the the governments would make them wear to identify them and our history and a lot of our you know the history of witches and witchcraft uh and you know what we perceive as a witch with you know that long nose and uh you know ugly demeanor uh was actually more warnings against the jews uh there's a great post i can pull up and put in the purple pill too that really breaks that whole thing down
Speaker 11But yeah, there's lots of stuff throughout history with all these things that we look at as folklore and fairy tales that really were our ancestors warning us about the Jews and about the things that they come across in their lives and trying to warn the future generations and putting it into stories for us. So I find that to be fascinating.
Speaker 11And Eric, thank you so much for your response, man. I've always been a huge history buff and looking into the real history versus what we're told. And that's been a big part of my journey too, man. So I really appreciate that and appreciate all the work you do. Keep fighting, bro.
@warsawerikAppreciate you, man. Thank you very much. Yeah, guys, it's absolutely amazing how they just change absolutely. They have no problem changing history, like changing history to fit their political agenda. There's no objectivity in them whatsoever. Everything is a political angle for more power and profit. It's unbelievable, unfreaking believable.
@joann_marieAnd Eric, I don't know if you've met David, but he's one of my favorite accounts. And David, how are you? I'm sorry that I'm going to skip through the hands because I just love David, guys.
Speaker 12I'm doing great. I have to, I'm sorry to be the opposition here, but I have to side with the Jews here. I mean, what a ludicrous, What a ludicrous thing to have a character in The Three Little Pigs that would be conflated with Jews because it wants to huff and puff and level people's houses just for the pleasure of it.
Speaker 12I just can't imagine that there's any correlation whatsoever here. You know, me, you, people in Gaza, you know, I'm just having trouble making that connection.
@malleusigI think it's what I think the most incredible connection is that I really think, and this is a counter organ to that is I don't think many Jews eat pork. I mean, he spends the entire story trying to eat the three little pigs, right?
Speaker 12Oh yeah. Good point.
@joann_marieWell, thank you so much for joining us, David. And please jump in anytime.
Speaker 12Absolutely. And I, I don't, I noticed Eric that you want to follow each other, but I know that we've been on many spaces together, so I'm glad to meet you, my friend.
@warsawerikI appreciate you very much. Yeah, as soon as you popped up, I noticed that I was already following you, so I guess we bumped into each other somewhere.
Speaker 12Absolutely, my friend. And, you know, I'm so glad when people talked about the movies, who was it? Was it you? Who was it that was talking about these moments when you're watching the movie where it just becomes like a little propaganda moment? Was that you or someone else?
@joann_marieI think it was Rabbi.
Speaker 12Well... Rabbi, isn't it a bit like breaking the fourth wall? Don't you feel that? I mean, when they do it, like there's a movie I've watched just recently called Music and Lyrics, Hugh Grant, and it's a comedy. And he says, well, there's two sides to every story. And she says, yeah, except for the Nazis. I don't really see the other side of that one.
Speaker 12I'm like, what? Why are you? This is a comedy. This is a romantic comedy. Why are we talking?
@malleusigWhat? They have to remind you. That's the thing. It's like, cause it's like, you know, when Nick, when peers, he, uh, when peers, uh, tried to try to get Nick front days for like denying the Holocaust or making fun of the Holocaust and front days responses, why is it too soon? Right. And it's, it's because they have to keep needling you with it because if they don't, at some point it'll become, or, you know, late enough that we can make fun of it again and they can't let that happen.
@malleusigSo they have to keep reminding you. They have to keep, you know, Raiders of the Lost Ark. The bad guys have to be Nazis.
Speaker 12The amazing thing about this is that the assumption is that there's a transmigration of guilt, too. That you and everybody like you, based on your ethnicity, have to be now and forever feel guilty. It doesn't work in reverse, obviously, because we have a nation of Holocaust deniers in Israel. And they deny the Holocaust they perpetrated in Russia, killing 40 million people.
Speaker 12So it never works both ways.
@malleusigNot just that. They deny the Armenian genocide. Right. How awful is that? Like Israel, it's illegal to contradict any of their details about their genocide. But you're completely free to deny the Armenians the existence of their genocide. And you're certainly okay denying the existence of the Gazan genocide. Right. So it's this it's this crazy thing.
@malleusigBut the best part about that, David, that this is what I love with that transmigration of guilt is done from the Germans to all white Europeans. OK, including Americans. Americans have more Holocaust museums. I think we have like, what, 100 plus in America. Right. We have more Holocaust museums than exist in Germany. more Holocaust museums and memorials than exist in Germany itself.
@malleusigWhy? We're the ones that saved their asses from the Germans. Why do we have to engage? Why do we have to participate in this whole guilt tripping? And why aren't there statues and memorials? to the fallen american soldiers that heroically and bravely died to rescue jews from the fires of the uh because at that point it wasn't gas chambers at that point it was fire pits from the fires of the holocaustian fire pits that were incinerating jews alive why don't we have that why don't we have israeli funded scholarships to colleges that are available
@malleusigto the descendants of american servicemen that are the only reason why most of the jews listening to this broadcast exist because my ancestors pulled your ancestors out of the death camps why is it that i have to constantly scrape and bow and apologize to you that doesn't make any sense ethically logistically morally makes zero sense at all well of course
Speaker 12You should be indignant when you're treated this way. And if you lose that indignation, then they have you forever. Why should you be indignant? Because you're right. So what do we call that? Righteous indignation. There you go. You should have righteous indignation. They are the ones perpetrating these things upon us.
Speaker 12And the idea, and it makes perfect sense if you turn the chessboard around, that they would rob us of our righteous indignation. that they would accuse us of all the things that they do to us perfectly, perfectly symmetrical with the fact that they do it and we don't. We're righteously indignant about it and they don't want us to have that.
Speaker 12Well, it does make perfect sense, right? Once you see the lie, you realize that it's all pervasive. You know, I love the joke that, who's the radio guy who interviewed Dave Smith, the debate between Dave Smith and Charles Murray? I don't watch his podcast. Joe Rogan says, you know, before COVID, I thought that it was fine to take vaccines.
Speaker 12After COVID, I questioned the moon landing. Great joke.
@malleusigI suspect that Rogan questioned the moon landing before vaccines, but it's a good point nonetheless.
Speaker 12Great joke. But once you know that you have been lied to. And once you know that this is a tapestry of lies and it always goes in one direction and it's always to rob you of being righteously indignant, well, what is the function of righteous indignation? It's to protect the innocent. It's not so that you can have revenge or get them back, but you realize, like with Epstein, that you're not just protecting victims of the past, but the future victims that inevitably are going to occur when people get away with it scot-free.
Speaker 12And that's what's at stake here. If we don't say the thing, and I, you know, when I was recently on a space and someone was stopping me when I was asking, well, who do you mean they? And they say the oligarchs. I'm like, who are the oligarchs? And they say, no, no, don't ask that question. No, no, no, no, no. Say who they are.
Speaker 12We're talking about the Jewish mafia or Jewish supremacists in Israel. And if we don't say the thing, then we're kind of like we've given in forever, right? Because they're the ones. It should be offensive to you when someone says, you can't talk about me when I do bad things, then you better talk about them now. Because if you don't talk about them now, if you allow them to silence you or to make you reticent, then it's going to get worse, folks.
Speaker 12It's never going to get better from there.
@malleusigThat door is a lot easier to hold open than it is to pry back open after you've allowed them to close and lock it. And you're completely right about the righteous indignation. This is the thing, like righteous indignation, what it means is that you are going to allow yourself, to say to the other party, no, fuck you, I'm not going to do what you want, right?
@malleusigAnd this is why blacks are so aggressive against white people. It's because they think they have a righteous reason to hate us and to do bad things to us, and that's why they don't feel bad about it. They're not restrained by any kind of moral consideration because they see us... as the bad guys, as their oppressors. Jews are the same way.
@malleusigThis whole myth of everybody wanting Jews dead, the main function of it is to remove whatever moral shackles Jewish people would otherwise be hindered by in the commission of atrocities against non-Jews. Because if everyone hates Jews, then hey!
@malleusigI'm not really killing you and taking your land. I'm actually just fighting for my life. I didn't just shoot your toddler in the face. I kept an existential threat from developing that one day would destroy my people, right? And this is one of these moral games they play with each other. And specifically, it's so they can create monsters that will grow up to commit atrocities and feel nothing in response to it.
@malleusigThey will sleep like babies at night. as a result of this indoctrination campaign.
Speaker 12Aristotle said that pride is the crowning virtue because it's the psychological payoff for practicing the other ones. Don't let them make you feel ashamed of your virtues. Don't let you, as I say, string the strings of guilt. across your soul and play them like a virtual world. So you have to be proud of who you are, of your culture, of everything they want to tear down.
Speaker 12Be righteously proud of it. You know, this is beautiful. You will never make a Mozart. You will never have a Niels Bohr. You will never have a Shakespeare. You could destroy everything that we have, but you would never recreate it because destruction is your main export. Destruction is your main contribution. But building up, creating beauty, kindness, equanimity,
Speaker 12These are nothing. You have nothing to do with these things. You'll never recreate them. So the first step is to be proud of your virtues. It really is important. Be righteous. Be proud. Don't be ashamed. Don't let them treat you this way, make you think this way. And, of course, it's a rebellion of its own kind, isn't it?
@malleusigIt is. It really is. And when they call you into the summit, you tell them, Gesundheit. All right. And I will go to anyone. I don't see any hands. Do you see hands, Joanne?
@joann_marieYes. Let's go to Kirk. Go ahead, Kirk.
@malleusigAwesome.
@allegedly_fortiHey, everybody. My audio has been a little funny. Can you hear me?
@joann_marieYeah, welcome.
@allegedly_fortiOkay, great. Good to see everybody again. I have a question for Ian after I make a short point. I hope this point makes sense, because if it doesn't, it's going to sound kind of stupid. But I hope it goes well. I'm more interested in Jewish psychology, as some of you know. I'm not so good with a lot of the history. But I think one of the core things, Rabbi and I talked about the compartmentalization aspect of their psychology.
@allegedly_fortiBut I think another thing is, You know, if you look at what they do, they try to degrade their enemies. Like, they want you to be worse than what you are. But if you look at how they see themselves and how they see the world, they're obsessed with perfection, intelligence, and achieving perfection. And, you know, in their own mind, they might say, you know, you all hate us because we're better than you.
@allegedly_fortiSo, you know, we're better than you, therefore you get resentful, and that makes you want to get rid of us, and therefore we have a right to do all these things. But deep down in their psychology, they know that if they, well, I mean, they've acted on it. If they encounter something better than them, they will destroy it.
@allegedly_fortiSo they don't really believe in perfection. They're too cowardly to believe in perfection. They won't let it overtake them. So they have this internal conflict. You know, they want perfection. They want to basically overtake God, as it were. They see the world is imperfect and they can be better. But if something truly better than them came up, they wouldn't be able to stand it for a second and they would eliminate it before it got powerful.
@allegedly_fortiAnd that's why they degrade all of their, anyone they're around, whereas other people sometimes try to make other people better. Like maybe the English tried to teach people to read throughout the world. But no, the Jews want you to be worse than what you are. I don't know, should I leave that point there and ask you a totally unrelated question?
@allegedly_fortiOr maybe I'll just let people respond to that if they want to.
@malleusigI would only add to that that the Jews, my understanding is that they want to turn you into amateur Jews. They want to take away your sense of objective morality, and then they're going to beat you with 5,000 years of experience at that game.
@allegedly_fortiYeah, I agree with the objective morality. The thing is that I have a little bit of a trouble with objective morality. Maybe they've already converted me to some degree. Resist it, Kirk.
@joann_marieDon't fall for it.
@allegedly_fortiIt's okay.
@malleusigImagine I said morality, because they don't really have morality anyway. So they want to take away your morality, and then they want to beat you with 5,000 years of experience at the amoral game.
@allegedly_fortiYeah, I like that point. I mean, my issue is that I... I've thought a lot about morality, and I do think it's very, very, very hard to have any objective morality. There's a way that I've come up with to try to get an objective morality, but it's actually based in uncertainty, which is if you begin from a principle of uncertainty, you can actually say that because we don't know how things are or what should be the ultimate value that we pursue,
@allegedly_fortiit makes sense to sort of leave it open-ended. And you end up with a similar form of morality that Christianity ends up with. But you don't have to begin with the primary assumption of a deity. You can begin with respect for uncertainty itself. It's not something that I've fully written up, but it's not a place for this space.
@malleusigI know. We can have this debate. I mean, I can make an argument for objective morality based off of the Golden Rule. You simply, if you do a check, if you wouldn't want the other person to do a thing to you, then it's morally... not something you should be doing to them.
@allegedly_fortiThat's if you regard them as an equal person.
@malleusigIf I regard them as an equal person, I regard every human consciousness as equal in that regard, in its ability to feel suffering.
Speaker 12Right. There's two aspects to morality. First of all, I love that you referred to the golden rule. And there's two aspects to morality. There is consequentialism, which is, you know, what will the results of this be? And then there's intention. And the people to whom we're referring, do not stand up to either of these things.
@allegedly_fortiYou're talking about deontology.
Speaker 12Deontology, that's right. And that was Immanuel Kant. So in regards to back to the golden rule, well, we're composed similarly in this way. That which constitutes our identity is most closely associated with volition, the choices that we make. And of course, morality exists in the context of our capacity, our free will to make choices, right?
Speaker 12So... each person must have the base level of a moral person is that they have the pleasure of agreeing with themselves and they're able, we know they're able, it's just a matter of whether they're going to do it or not, to apply the golden rule principle to other people. This is very intuitive. You know, Confucius, for instance, this is why he said, customs make us better, laws make us worse, is because the customs would encourage us to simply operate by this state of intuition, this golden rule.
Speaker 12Well, there's one group of people that has out-grouped psychopathy. Out-group psychopathy is where one group of people think, well, we're going to behave this way with each other, which means that we do understand the principle that we view everybody else as something, as a group to be parasitized. So our friend here is right.
Speaker 12I believe everybody. I have to make the assumption. I have to go on the assumption as a logical person. Because morality should exist in logical space.
@allegedly_fortiSo David, you just reminded me of how... Hold on, let me finish this point. I love David's point. He just reminded me of how my theory works. I'm getting old and I haven't thought about this shit in like 10 years. So you can get to... That's sort of Kant's categorical imperative to some degree. And you can get to that through uncertainty.
@allegedly_fortiAnd the way that you do that is you say the ability to predict specific... consequences of certain actions. So let's say you have a highest moral good and you wanna go towards that moral good. First of all, the good itself is uncertain. And second of all, how you get there is uncertain. I think I'm gonna do X and it's gonna cause Y and it's gonna get me closer to my universal good.
@allegedly_fortiBut over centuries of experience, what people figured out is that actually, because the true effects of what you do are not that predictable, if you follow general rules of action, you often get closer to that highest good that you were looking for in the first place. So I actually believe that you can derive that categorical imperative from a respect for uncertainty itself.
@allegedly_fortiWe don't really know. There's blowback. In the political sphere, we call it blowback. You never actually know what the real results are going to be. Look at what happened to the Jews. So October 7th, they got really, really angry, and they say, you know, the logical thing is to eliminate all these people so they're never a problem again.
@allegedly_fortiWell, guess what? That is the thing that woke everybody up to them. That's literally an example of them not following the categorical imperative and having it, you know, they basically say, you know what, we're going to set the categorical imperative aside this time, and we're going to do a highly specific action that we think will have an absolute result.
@allegedly_fortiIt actually goes back to the beginning of this. And not to...
@malleusigNot to belabor the point, but it sounds like you're now drifting away from morality and into utilitarianism. You're not arguing that their actions were moral or amoral. You're arguing that they did not serve the intended purpose. I'm arguing that they converge, 100% converge.
Speaker 12I'm sorry, my friend, but they're mutually exclusive. The categorical imperative is sort of an overworded golden rule. whereas imagine everything you're doing is a universal law. Correct. And it is consequential, right? So will you take your shopping cart back because it takes less effort and less footsteps for you to do it after you empty your basket and pay for everything than have the other person go back and forth?
Speaker 12So that kind of thing. So just the efficiency, the effectiveness. Well, what does all this imply? That you care about other people, that you have solicitude for humankind and not just any particular group. But when another group doesn't have the pleasure of agreeing with themselves, you know, when someone says to you, I think you should tell the truth.
Speaker 12I think you should be a good and honest person. And then they lie to you and cheat you. Well, this is obviously someone that is insincere, right? So what do we call that? We call that either an immoral person or if they are never moral and view morals in this utilitarian light, they're really amoral. If you say morals are just utilitarian, if that's all that you're saying, you're kind of an amoral person, right?
Speaker 12You're saying, well, morals don't really exist. I'm sort of playing you. I understand you have, I mean, this is what sociopaths do, right? I understand you have moral sensibilities, so I'm going to mimic those things. Well, that's an entirely different thing. But I will tell you, and here's the good news, the world is full of people that actually have the solicitude.
Speaker 12And they don't have to be very educated. They can be farmers.
@allegedly_fortiCan you not use the word solicitude? There's a couple of, so solicitude, and there's another thing that you were saying there. I mean, he can use it whenever he wants. Which to me are not well defined.
@malleusigYeah, it's really, you don't have to police it. Yeah, and listen, I choose and mean my words.
@allegedly_fortiI just mean I don't understand it, because I feel like he's using... terminology that maybe comes from some part of literature that I don't understand or that the audience doesn't, doesn't understand. And I simply just don't understand his point because he's using it.
@malleusigOkay. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm sorry, but I mean, instead of, instead of asking him to dumb down his speech, bring your own up.
@allegedly_fortiOkay. Well, the pleasure of presence, that's not a word. That's a phrase. Can you define what that praise, that phrase actually means?
Speaker 12What you mean? The pleasure of having a green with ourselves. What are you talking about?
@allegedly_fortiThere's something you said a couple of times. I'm not sure I completely caught it. The pleasure of presence, something like that.
Speaker 12First of all, by the way, if we're all going to dumb down our language in order to appeal to people's sensibilities in that regard, then what are we left with, grunts and whistles? I mean, you know, if we head in the opposite direction.
Speaker 13Let's not make it a space about it. You get just cool intelligence. That's not, that's not good.
@malleusigBut anyway, the thing is like solicitude just means care or concern for someone or something. I just looked at the official definition. That's all it means. So listen, the point is this, this is not an FBA space. We are not catering to the lowest common denominator here. We're not talking, we're not talking about who's going to win the lottery tomorrow or what sports team is going to win.
@malleusigOkay. We are, this is the level of discussion that we encourage and we enjoy, right? If you don't want to take advantage of that, to make yourself smarter and more capable, then... I'm sorry, but the last thing you should be doing is asking us to dumb it down for you.
@joann_marieOkay, I should have said, can you translate the phrase? Okay, hold on, hold on. I'm just going to mute you. Okay, we have a very special guest. Eric Guarzo is with us. So let's try to like talk to him because he doesn't come to our spaces like every day, you know, like it's been like a year since we last got him here and I love his work and we can learn from him, right?
@joann_marieSo thank you so much for coming up, Kirk. We're going to move on. Thomas, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 6Thank you so much for the mic. You know, I had one more kind of statement to make. And then, you know, I'd just like to really listen and stuff. The one thing I'd like to kind of illuminate about the hypocrisy and the narrative we're getting with Iran and the deaths of the protesters. is you can look to our relationship with India, which is, you know, they're not subject, they're not members of the nuclear proliferation treaties.
Speaker 6They don't have, you know, they don't have international atomic agencies coming in, regulating their nuclear programs. And if you look at the precursor chemicals for the fentanyl that come into the United States, through the, you know, pill press by the Sinaloa and, you know, Jalisco new generation cartels, 10% of the fentanyl that comes in is through India, which means that, you know, they rank, there's over a million deaths from opioids.
Speaker 6And 70% of that is considered to be from the illicit fentanyl. So you can say that out of the 600,000 deaths, like India has, you know, complicit in 10% of that. And then you look at like how human rights abuses, like since 1999, they have committed brutality against women and what you could only call like a femicide. So like 75,000 women have been burned alive and beheaded on train tracks and beaten to death as pinatas and hunted as witches.
Speaker 6There's modern day Salem witch trial occurring. And many, you know, of the provinces across India. And we ignore it. And this is because of, I think, something that Rabbi was speaking to is this idea that they've institutionalized suffering, like with the Holocaust or any of this. And so they can rank suffering and they can say, this matters, the Iranian protesters being killed matters, not like Rene Good or not like the women in India who are being slaughtered.
Speaker 6We have the Indian government paying our influencers like Gunther Eagleman and Clown World and Ryan Fournier to post positive stuff about the Modi government. So I think my question is why we facilitate that, but I think it's pretty obvious is that they have this institutionalized kind of ranking of suffering, which is why you don't hear about the...
Speaker 6tens of millions of Christians who died during World War II. You only hear about the Holocaust and the, you know, through this kind of Jewish ontology, the whole perspective. But it's just the way they kind of commandeer our goodwill to go into these conflicts like Iran, obviously heading to that. And they've portrayed, and the other aspect of that is the brutal end is that we facilitated a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 6We allow it, we condone it. by this kind of ranking. But I think, is it, my question kind of, Erica, about this is, why do we allow that? I think there's some aspects that you can kind of explain. Like, they've always been great Shabbos goy, right, India. Like, 2.5 million Indians fought for the British and places like, you know, Indonesia and just all through different theaters.
Speaker 6A lot of people don't know, I argued with that idiot boxer, MD, guy who pretends to be a doctor about it. Also, in the 1980s, the Indian government worked with Israel to potentially strike Pakistan's nuclear facilities. This was disclosed by CIA operatives, and the U.S. kind of knew about this. They didn't hand it. Why do you think, Eric, that we...
Speaker 6ignore such a blatant human rights relationship like the one with India. Obviously Israel, but India. It's something that they don't talk about. The H-1B visas is another way that it's the cheap slave labor and everything coming in, but I think it's hard to condone or reconcile that relationship, especially when they're using it as pretext to go into Iran.
Speaker 6for like brutality against protesters. But I'll end there. And, you know, I just really, again, Eric, I really appreciate you. Thank you, Ian and Joanne and Rabbi for letting me up and giving me a mic. I appreciate you guys.
@warsawerikThat's a good question. You know, the crazy stuff on India, half the stuff you mentioned, I didn't even know about. India has the low numbers, 8 million slaves. They got a bunch of, in India, They get some very, very intelligent, nice, classy people, but they also have like a bottom of society that is like unbelievably bottom, like without any culture or anything too, man.
@warsawerikThere seems to be not much of a middle class. It's like people are either really, really intelligent, classy people from India or just really bottom of the gutter. India's kind of odd in that, but you mentioned something too on... why do we hyper-focus on one group of people suffering while ignoring somebody else who's going through worse shit?
@warsawerikIt seems to be part of human nature. We do have a hypocritical, selective sight in our human nature where we'll over-focus in America on slavery that's completely over and done with, but absolutely never mention slavery the horrible amounts of slavery going on in the world right now, especially in India and Congo and, and all these other places.
@warsawerikUm, I think they, every, yeah, Libya too. A few years ago, someone was sold for like, what, $400 in a slave market. And there was, they, they had it up on CNN, $400. You could buy a slave in Libya, uh, on freaking real. And, um, they, uh, I think they've noticed that, you know, human nature has got like quite a bit of degree of hypocrisy where they can just be absolutely horrible to like the Palestinians and then call themselves the victim while they're committing a freaking act of genocide and all this sort of stuff.
@warsawerikAnd then look how many people actually believe in it though, you know? It's like most, there's a lot of, there's a big chunk of people who are just absolutely incapable of critical thinking or just basic making observations. And I think they know that. I mean, for the love of God, they got away with ruling this huge giant Zionist empire for so long just by ruling it out in the open, but telling you it's a conspiracy theory at the same time.
@warsawerikYou know, sometimes even I look back at myself and I'm thinking like, Jesus Christ, how freaking, how blind was I? How dumb was I not to have noticed all this stuff before? But I mean, they know what they're doing. Psychology studies also show that various studies have come to the same conclusion that about 30% of a population will believe the government and the media, no matter what crazy shit they tell them.
@warsawerikAnd like the whole sheeple effect. It's so...
@malleusigListen, they have... You know what it is? It's self-defense. It's self-defense because if you accept that the government is working against you and wants you dead, that means you now have to oppose the government. Opposing the government is too scary for certain people to even consider as a possibility. And so what they do is they do this female thing where it's like...
@malleusiginstead of, instead of opposing the people that want you dead, right? You just align with them. It's like this, um, uh, Stockholm syndrome thing, right? Where it's like, if you look at, if you look at, um, and this is why it's more prevalent in women. If you look at the way most conflicts have worked in prehistory or in, in, in ancient history, even what happens is you have a group of males come in, they destroy a town or a village and they kill all the males and they keep the women as sex slaves.
@malleusigSo what happens is women have, over time, evolved a strategy where it's like, well, all the men are dead. What am I going to do? Am I going to fight the people that killed my husband? No, because it would just mean I'll die and my kids will die. So to keep my line going, I'll just switch in my head. Now the people that killed my family, my husband, now they're the good guys and I'm aligned with them.
@malleusigAnd it's a protection strategy. It's a way to keep yourself safe. And 30 percent of the people still align with that. And I'm willing to bet a greater percentage than half of those people are women. That's because that's that's very important. I think that it's a very gendered strategy.
@warsawerikWei Liao Zhu said it, old ancient Chinese military philosopher, he said, people follow who they fear. That's another one too. And then you'll, you'll notice that a lot too, you know, and then it comes down to like human decision-making. We like to think of ourselves as really, really rational people who judge things on objectivity and morality and stuff like that.
@warsawerikBut if you really, really examine people's decision-making, it's mostly on emotional whims, uh, profits or fears, um, and just kind of privilege shit, uh, impulsiveness. And, um, Yeah, he was some shit, is basically what it comes down to.
@malleusigIf there's one thing that I've learned from five years of debating people on Twitter, it's that most of people's... logical decision-making is used as post hoc justification for the decisions they make. It's not to arrive at those decisions about what they believe or what they want to do. It's to justify the decision after they make it with their emotions.
@warsawerikOh, that's an excellent observation. Yes, that's an excellent observation. Another one, too, is, what was it, Voltaire? There was a philosopher that said... man is not a rational creature man is a rationalizing creature meaning you know not not objective or anything at all but you know we see our wants and desires and we uh we rationalize to that goal instead of right yeah yeah you know studying politics is also studying psychology and stuff too it's actually pretty fascinating it is it is it's all about
@malleusigAnd it's amazing how even the Romans, you go back 2,000 years, and they had it all. They knew all about this. They had us nailed as a species. One of my favorite quotes, I forget the Latin for it, but essentially the quote is, and this is from Seneca's time, people generally believe what they want to. And that is just as true today as it was two millennia ago.
@warsawerikYeah, yeah. No, you know what? The Roman Empire, man, I've read a lot of quotes from them and everything like that. I mean, what a magnificent freaking empire and really brilliant people that came from that time, yet they still managed to fuck it all up. Yeah. Man. And we're watching our... It's like because of technology, we're on the same road.
@warsawerikWe're at an accelerated rate. So what used to take freaking... you know, a long time to build a certain political awareness in people and stuff like that. Now it just takes a couple of years or even months because of social media is so fast and everything. So, I mean, we're like the Roman Empire falling in on itself just at a much faster rate.
@warsawerikAnd it's freaking fascinating, though, the Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire.
@joann_marieI want to get the hands up.
@malleusigYeah, I don't want to use them. Go ahead.
@joann_marieNo, they had... Jews, like Jewish financiers called court Jews. It's really interesting. Yeah.
@malleusigNo, it's exactly. It's collapsing for the same reasons. Unchecked immigration killed the Roman Empire. At the Roman Empire's, you know, in its later stage, I think it was like 2% ethnic Roman.
@joann_mariewild. But anyway, everybody, thank you so much for being here. And guys, please repost this space. Follow Ian and Rabbi and our very, very, very special guest, Eric Worsa. I'm loving it, Eric. Thank you so much. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. All right, Andy, go for it.
Speaker 5Yeah, I was just kind of wondering, it seems a bit interesting with our politics that after October 7th, it seemed... like most of the opposition to Israel was coming from the left and then the right kind of all fell and jump on that. But now it seems like the majority of the opposition online that I've noticed is coming from the right and a lot more of the left has been not as vocal about that as the beginning.
Speaker 5Like I'm not talking about the campus protest. I mean, that died down for obvious reasons because the government cracked down on it. But online, it seems like the energy, like no war with Iran, all of that is coming from... the right, it seems. It's like, where are all the left-wing people that were kind of there earlier on?
Speaker 5It's just a bit interesting how that's shifted. And it would be nice to kind of have both sides focused on that, which is, it's like now that Trump's in power, the left's hatred of Trump overrides like their will to help the Palestinian people because they're, I think the people on the left look at it from a more shallow side, like Trump bad, he's the big villain, not realizing that he's just the next installment in the long line of puppets.
Speaker 5since Lyndon B. Johnson, and that's the problem that we have. They think Trump's the villain. And obviously, yes, he's a bad person. He's not doing a good job as president. But at the end of the day, he's just a puppet. And most likely, the next president will be a puppet as well, unless some miraculous hero arises, which is highly unlikely, which we have a very low chance of that happening.
Speaker 5But what the Democrats don't realize is that it's just Trump is a puppet, and they think he's the problem. there's a lot of people above him. And we need to try to wake them up to that. And no, Trump's not the big bad. Netanyahu is above him. All these Jewish billionaires are above him. And this is the next person's going to be a puppet.
Speaker 5And whether it's a Democrat or Republican, they're likely going to bomb the Middle East. They're still going to give money to Israel. Like Obama bombed seven countries in 2016. It's both parties. And the Democrats would rather be out protesting ICE than actually worrying about a war with Iran. It's just really frustrating to see like a segment of the right with a smattering of leftists is not enough to win this fight, which is the problem.
Speaker 5So what can we do to get the people on the left who are opposed to Israel to join us in this fight to free our country from their control?
@warsawerikYou made an excellent observation that I've made before too. So we have both right and left on our side. And it seems like there's certain times where it will be mostly right wingers or mostly left wingers, predominantly different times, like before October 7th to be, you know, it was kind of mostly like a right winger thing for white people.
@warsawerikAt least it was mostly like, you know, right wingers are. you know, they, they had that, that awareness and they, they were the ones constantly being called the anti-Semites and this and that. Then October 7th happened. It was like a huge swing to the left and it was predominantly lefties. And then for the past, uh, about year, it's been mostly right wingers.
@warsawerikSo I'm, I'm, I'm guessing that something might happen in the future. It might be predominantly left wing again. Um, I don't like, I think that, uh, like this whole ice thing that's going on right now, I don't, I don't take any stances on anything that's divisive like left wing versus right wing. I don't mention it at all.
@warsawerikI stay focused on things that only unite us and not divide us. But I've also noticed that the media, right wing and left wing media and protest groups are being super funded by Zionists and stuff like that because it's a right wing versus left wing awesome distraction that so many people cannot help but digress into. They just fall right into it.
@warsawerikAnd it's like Venezuela is being taken over. They're threatening Cuba. Iran is having huge, giant protests. Epstein files were blocked again. But people are filling the streets, and they're talking about nothing but Minnesota and ICE on TV. I'm like, oh, they found the perfect distraction for people, huh?
@joann_marieAnd also to convince people to join this, like, auto... I forgot what I was going to say. To just accept the police and have the police all the time. I see people being like, yes, this is what I voted for. And it's insane.
Speaker 5Yeah, what I voted for is I wanted 5 million deportations a year quick and efficiently, not 500,000 and some stupid TikTok edits and a shit show. And they're purposely making it a shit show because... The Zionists and the Jews, they don't actually want deportations because they want to diversify this country to divide us because, I mean, I'm not trying to be racist, but they could never conquer a monolithic country.
Speaker 5They need to diversify. They need to push LGBTQ. They need to push all of these different racial, LGBTQ, trans divisions upon us so that they can have us fighting over everything like this. They needed the illegal immigrants in here so then they could be, ooh, this happened, and then they could create a big blowup over this.
Speaker 5And that could have never happened without something like the Hartzeller Act that allowed a bunch of stuff like immigrants like this to come in.
@warsawerikThis is exactly the distraction they were waiting for. So people could start yelling about this instead of Venezuela and Epstein list. I think that Epstein list thing was bugging the shit out of a man because. uh really like dude that that is that's so uncomfortable for even their puppets to have to defend or pretend like they are ignoring it and stuff and really think of how airtight airtight their control over our government is that nobody in the cia nobody in the fbi nobody in congress nobody anywhere uh would have access to like you know going
@warsawerikTake that and just dump it, like on WikiLeaks or something like that. I mean, they have a seriously, seriously airtight control over our entire government to prevent any of that Jeffrey Epstein stuff from coming out. That's like indirect power flex. Like, holy crap, man, they got some freaking power. That is unbelievable.
Speaker 12And make no mistake about it, that was absolute Armageddon for them. The second most important person in the United States of America to Israel was Charlie Kirk. And when he said that Epstein worked with Mossad, the implications of that are Armageddon to Israel. They cannot survive without us. Whatever they say, that's just the fact of it.
Speaker 12And for him to say that means that the last core group of people, and those people are walking away from him, the young conservatives who are now saying, I'm not buying Israel's narrative, that last group of people are being represented by a Zionist who all of a sudden himself says, you know what? I believe... that Israel was running a blackmail operation using children in order to inveigle American politicians to give us money and support to bomb other children in Gaza.
Speaker 12Nothing is more evil. If Americans agreed on that, we would realize this is not our greatest ally, but our greatest enemy. And of course, it would be over for them. So even in diligent space, I would tell everyone, this Epstein thing is way bigger than even you think. Because it's the end of Israel if we all just go, yeah, they were doing this, which, by the way, that's what they were doing.
@warsawerik100%. And with Charlie Kirk, man, Charlie Kirk's full conversion and bringing his whole entire audience with him, that's pretty much the absolute meat and majority of all of Christian Zionism converting to being Christian anti-Zionism. So, yeah, that's... it's very very sad what happened to charlie i really believe israel is behind that because every single aspect of that case uh you can't go two steps in that case without bumping into a jewish name or some kind of jewish benefit or profit like this there's blueberry fingerprints and a palm print over the entire freaking case and just who it benefits and the timing and like nah man
Speaker 12This was the... What's this menorah lined by this body right here? I know.
Speaker 5They realized they'd be better off having Charlie's audience fractured between Nick Tucker and Candace than having them behind Charlie pushing anti-Zionism. They realized they'd... Because, look, we have the America First movement still arguing over who killed Charlie, and now you have Candace pushing that there's time travel involved, for Christ's sake.
Speaker 5It's ridiculous. And you have...
@warsaweriknick's a fed tucker's a fed candace is a fed hey how about we unite and say let's not go to war with iran but instead you have everyone calling each other a fad and it's just completely ridiculous and you have no that you're 100 right man 100 and guys that's one thing i never and i tell people never to do like don't attack allies don't attack allies don't attack allies uh because there's a lot of people like dude they they waste tons of time
@warsawerikattacking an ally where you could be attacking an enemy or waking people up in the same amount of time. You're spending time and efforts against an ally.
@malleusigAnd the thing that I always remind them of is that Jews will literally accept and defend other Jews that are child rapists. So that's the bar set for us. Anything above a child rapist, we're still on greater moral high ground than Jews are.
@warsawerikYeah, for real. There's a lot of people that I, in this movement, politicians, people I just did not agree with at all. And if they were attacked, I still went out there and defended their dumb asses with a serious face on. I mean, there's some people I really don't like, and I still defend them just because they're on our side.
@warsawerikAnd we'll settle our differences and shit afterwards. But I mean, everyone needs to take that more teamwork mentality. Do not attack allies. be very, very mature, stay focused and all that. You know, that's why another reason I don't, I don't take up as soon as something pops up that turns into, I can see it's a left wing versus right wing issue.
@warsawerikI sidestep it, man, because I mean, I prioritize the movement and the overall goal over some things that I may feel very, very strongly about. There's some, there's been some topics that they came up in the past couple of years. I felt very strongly about, I kept my mouth shut and I focused on the overall goal. And I hope many other people start doing that same thing, too.
Speaker 5Yeah, I've been avoiding a lot of the right versus left stuff since November, but this ICE thing kind of dragged me back in because I'm like, you know what? This is ridiculous. They're not having people freaking defend and send for Somali immigrants. Like, I'm not going to freaking tolerate that. Like, no. Because, I mean, that's literally the Zionists and the Jews are literally the ones pushing these people into our country.
Speaker 5So these people, even if they claim, oh, I'm anti-Israel, but then you're shilling for illegal immigrants, they're literally helping with their plan.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Andy. Sorry, go ahead, Eddie. I'm sorry.
@warsawerikI got to say, it's 1 o'clock in the morning for me right now, and at this point, I do get a dip out.
Speaker 12I don't want to hear your hard luck story. You're not going anywhere.
@joann_marieYou're staying here with us forever, Eddie.
@warsawerikListen, I will be absolutely happy to jump on again, even as soon as next week, because this was an absolutely super fun space, and I really, really love... the high level of education of all the people that were speaking and everything today, like these are, uh, it's just a high level, good quality, a bunch of people, man.
@warsawerikSo, uh, that was a great conversation and everything today too. So I'll be happy to jump on again, man. Great, great spaces, man. Great spaces. Appreciate it very much.
@malleusigI look forward to talking to you again, Eric. It was fantastic to have you here.
Ian MalcolmYeah. And that's, that's what I was going to say is, is, is for what it's worth, Eric, the thing that keeps me. So optimistic in spite of all the insanity that we see around us is exactly what you just mentioned. The high intellect, high IQ, high level of awareness. You know, the people that we have that come into these spaces, and I believe the truth teller is going to run a space the moment that we close this one down.
Ian MalcolmHe's been doing his Epstein files and going into... every single little nook and cranny of this system. And I mean, it started with Epstein. I think, Truth, are you at like episode 160 at this point?
@joann_marieI think it's 131. 41. 41. Yeah.
Ian MalcolmAnd so, Eric, I mentioned it because, I mean, he's going after every little piece of this puzzle, trying to put all of them together and to create this very obvious, set of truths that as uncomfortable as they are, it avoids all those talking points that you were mentioning. The whole left-right paradigm, I mean, it really does essentially just become humanity against this evil entity that's grabbing everything.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's the reason why I believe, again, we're going to win. And it's going to be so funny because we've got all these disagreements amongst one another. People are left-wing, right-wing, tall, short, fat, black, white, whatever it might be. And just kind of like the, what is it? The little, what would you call it? A quadro?
Ian MalcolmThe four people in the Wizard of Oz, right? You've got Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, the Cowardly Lion. They're all against the one big thing that is the wizard, right? They all come together. And that's the irony is that I think when everybody recognizes and they look across and they're like, you know what? It doesn't matter what sports team you chair for, what God you worship.
Ian MalcolmAt the end of the day, there's a major problem. It's coming for everybody. Let's stick together, and we'll put all those other little trivial things aside. And I think the power, it's so wild. I always go back to Orwell in 1984, hence the handle here. And the idea that he says, if the proles, referring to the masses, if they could only realize that they're essentially, they are the horse, and the machine that we all face are the flies.
Ian Malcolmhow easily we could just shrug off this entire machine and say, we are done with all of this. We're done with the enslavement. We're done with the brainwashing. We're done with all of it. Not because we hate anybody, not because we want to harm anybody, but because we love the thing that we are, right? And this mosquito just keeps taking everything out of everybody.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I'm so humbled and honored by all the speakers that we have and the power that we have when we bring our voices together. And Eric, the work that you've been doing is just, It's exceptional, so I'm so happy you're able to be here with us, with all of these speakers, and I really do hope you're able to come back, my friend.
@warsawerikYeah, I'll keep in contact, man. Hit me up anytime. My DMs are always open to you, and appreciate every single one of you guys. I mean, we're in a point in history, guys. We're part of the great noticing, whatever, however we call it, but I mean, this is a very historical time, and it really looks like Israel is... They're going for it, man.
@warsawerikThey're dominating country after country, and they're going to keep going until we're all enslaved or we stop them. So, I mean, this is our time in history to step up, and people will be reading about us in the history books far from now.
@joann_marieAnd Eric, do you know what's your greatest weapon? Not only you are super knowledgeable, you sound like you... stuck from the heart and out of love. And that is what I love the most about you. You are seriously, it's so great. And you are a great person. So thank you so much. And I really do hope that you come back. And it was an absolute honor to have you here.
@joann_marieAnd you're doing such amazing work. So thank you so much, Eric.
@warsawerikThank you very much. And I hit the follow button as many people as I could in the chat room several times throughout the show. So I hope I got you all. Everybody have a great night and I'll see you all again. Have a good night, everybody. God bless you all.
Ian MalcolmLet's go. Isn't he the best? And it's it's so that's the thing. We have this roster of truth tellers that are out there, pun intended, literally and figuratively with the man, the myth, the legend himself. Right. And that's the thing is that we all come together and this puzzle, you know, it's so complicated. but we're able to all kind of decipher all of the mysteries when we come together, we speak about these things.
Ian MalcolmAnd look, we'll have our differences of opinions on certain topics or issues. We'll read some of these things a little bit different from time to time. But the fact that we can just all come together, it really is, it's very, very, very special. And I really do think that what Eric said, I mean, look, in the history books 100 years from now, I hope that nobody has any idea.
Ian Malcolmwho any of us were. And I know that that sounds maybe a little bit crazy, but the truth is because I hope 100 years from now the world is flourishing and that people are living these beautiful, bright lives, that they are completely devoid of all of this insane... Think to what David was suggesting. To come to the recognition that prospectively you live under a government that is serving literal pedophiles via blackmail...
Ian MalcolmFor the intentional destruction of the rights and the liberties and the lives of innocent people everywhere. I mean, that's essentially what we are living under. And what is possible when mankind is no longer under, and I know David will like this one, right? That this idea of, if you want to know what essentially tyranny in the future is, as Orwell said, it's a human face under a boot forever.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's where we are. And once we get rid of that boot, the reality of where mankind will be able to go, what it will be able to do and to accomplish, it'll be utterly spectacular. So I hope 100 years from now, this is all of a long forgotten nightmare and that people don't have to go back and they don't have to listen to this and think what could have been if we had maybe been able to follow some of the thoughts and the ideas of those people in these spaces.
Ian MalcolmBecause if we win, we'll just be an afterthought in that rather than, unfortunately, to go back to Solzhenitsyn, this idea that he used to say in the Gulag Archipelago of what could have been different had they just stood up and said no more to the tyrants. And, you know, Russia went through decades of horror to get to where they are today.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I hope that we're part of something that avoids and thwarts all of that. And I just want to thank, again, Eric for being here. I want to thank everybody that's been part of this. We'll make sure just to go through the rest of the hands to make sure that everybody gets a chance. If anybody was up here waiting for a long time, I want to make sure they get their thoughts and their ideas out there.
Ian MalcolmWe'll do that orderly with either Joanne or Rabbi kind of running through everything. And then the moment we close this down, everybody, we're going to have Mr. Truth Teller, the professor himself, I believe, is going to be hosting another space. So look forward to that. And with that, Joanne and Rabbi, if you guys wouldn't mind.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Ian. And yeah, today's space is about polymarket. I don't know what else other topics truly has for us, but I cannot wait. And it's been an amazing space, Ian, so thank you so much. And I'm really happy that you brought Eric again. I love his work. And Rabbi, of course, is always... Everyone has been just amazing today, so thank you, guys.
@joann_marieDerek Rose, go ahead, sir. How are you?
Speaker 14I'm good. How are you?
@joann_marieGreat. I see you're back in LA.
Speaker 14I'm, yes, I'm back in the United States. I'm not being hunted by cartel, at least not yet. So I escaped that. But I really, I just, I feel really compelled to relate a story. And believe me, it really truly relates because I think that we're all, everybody is collectively caught in a back and forth. And it's part of the binary system that we live within.
Speaker 14You know, that's why the... That's why the Masons are focused on the black and white, the checkerboard, the binary system. And so, and that is a system that is being methodically destroyed because they're, you know, I would say that the people that are expecting what is taking place, they're ahead of it. And you're just not informed.
Speaker 14It's kind of why you have to dereligiousize, if you will. Christ, remove it from Christianity, remove Christ from Christianity and just stand Christ on his own and remove everything that you thought or that you were told to understand about him and about the story and what it is, because it will take on an entirely different story when you do empty your cup of what you think you know.
Speaker 14We have a disease in the United States. It is a disease where people think they know what they think they know. and they don't know anything. They know nothing about what they think they know. I'll take Zionism as a perfect example. People have no idea, zero clue what the history is, but yet they speak about it and command that they're right, and they know, and they're willing to do damage to other people as a result of what they think they know, and they don't know anything.
Speaker 14That is a terrifying thing. That's where Christ would say, they will kill you and think they're doing the work of God. That's exactly where this is. That's why you have Christians cheering on the slaughter of the largest Christian congregation in the entire Arab world in Gaza. They have no fucking clue. They have no idea.
Speaker 14This is why Christ could also say, depart from me, I never knew you, you doers of iniquity. That wasn't a nice saying. He was talking to people that thought they knew who the hell he was. They wouldn't even recognize him because... Everybody is living in this dualism and this bullshit where everybody is being convinced and led through this incredibly ridiculous scenario where they are leading you by creating these divides because you want to be a part.
Speaker 14You've got to be a part of it. So they're utilizing and they are manipulating the very nature of who you are as a creator to fucking destroy you. And they are doing it at every turn. And it is sickening to watch. And I liken it to this. There's a story and I'm going to tell you this. And I'll close with this. There was a tunnel.
Speaker 14And this is a true story. A tunnel going through this big ass mountain. And there was a truck that got stuck. It was too tall. It was stuck in the middle of this fucking tunnel. It backed up this interstate for hundreds of miles. For days. For days. They couldn't figure it out. Army Corps of Engineers, everybody trying to figure out how the fuck they're going to get this truck out of there.
Speaker 14And this little five-year-old kid walked up to a cop and tugged on him and said, why don't you let the air out of the tires? That's what we're dealing with today. And I could tell you that's a true story because I was that little boy.
@joann_marieThank you. Thank you so much for that, Derek. And I agree. And I'm glad you're safe now. And I hope we do a space with you sometime so that you tell us everything that happened and how it was in Hollywood and what happened in Mexico and your thoughts on the Matrix that are also very interesting. And I would love that. So thank you so much for everything, Derek.
@joann_marieAnd yeah, stay safe. All right. Hold on. I'm glitching with the hands. Oh, side with the Constitution. Go ahead, and then we'll go to David. Side?
Speaker 15Yeah, I was going to say something completely different, but I'll just keep it short here. I know Thomas and I follow each other. Thomas, did you know Gandhi was a racist? That's actually true. He was a racist.
Speaker 6Didn't he suck a boy's tongue, too?
Speaker 15Yeah, he was a racist, so it's kind of funny that he was... Yeah, it's kind of funny that he would be leading a peace march there. But yes, he was.
@malleusigHold on a second. What makes you think that those two things are contradictory?
Speaker 15That they're contradictory? I don't.
@malleusigYeah, why is being a racist contradictory with wanting peace?
Speaker 15I'm not saying that they're contradictory at all. I'm mentioning a fact that he was a racist.
@malleusigNo, but you held it out as ironic in some way.
Speaker 15No, I didn't. I'm just mentioning a fact. Also, Rabbi said something about we do what we want to do. Actually, we do what our subconscious wants us to do. Our subconscious has no filter. And so we go with whatever it wants us to do, which is a very odd thing. That's why watching TV and... different things like that. It's why they throw in these things that someone mentioned we should go back and watch some of the old TV programs we used to watch, why they throw in these odd things.
Speaker 15They do that because our subconscious is just a sponge and it just sucks in all these things and it keeps it in there and we have no filter in our subconscious. So it keeps all these things in there.
Speaker 12We have no filter? You have a rational mind, don't you?
Speaker 15We have a rational mind, but it's completely overwhelmed by our subconscious. Your conscious mind is only about 5% of your mind. Your subconscious is so much larger.
Speaker 12How would you possibly make that measurement? Tell me how you arrived at the mathematics. Do you know anything about... Did your subconscious mind produce that number, or did your conscious mind produce that number?
Speaker 15Do you know anything about neuroscience?
Speaker 12Hold on a second. He who posits must defend. Now, this is rationality. My subconscious mind isn't talking right now. So you just posited that 95% of our choices are made by our subconscious mind and 5% of our conscious mind. Tell me how you arrived at that math. I'm like a math teacher. I'm making you show me your work.
Speaker 12So how'd you arrive at that math?
Speaker 15Do you know anything about narrow?
Speaker 12Hold on now. Hold on now. So if I say, how did you arrive at your math? And I'm your math teacher. And you say. Do you know anything about Pythagoras? I'm like, no, no, no. We're not talking about Pythagoras right now. We're talking about how you arrived at the math that you've given to me. We're standing in front of my class.
Speaker 12I'm looking at your work. I don't see how you arrived at these conclusions, and I want you to know, because all the difference, and whether you got there through reason, or maybe the gods talked to you, maybe the Socrates used to say this, maybe the spirits talked to you, and now they have left you, and it's as much of a mystery to you as it is to me, or you got there through reason and rationality.
Speaker 12So again, You said that 5% of our decision-making is made by a rational mind, and 95% is made by our subconscious mind. How did you arrive at that math?
Speaker 15That's not math. That's coming from your subconscious mind.
Speaker 12That's literal math. Do you understand? These are numbers, right? 95 is a number. 5 is a number. Okay, now you've expressed these things as percentages of a whole, right? So, you've conveyed to me a couple of sets of knowledge. One... that there is a whole, that you know the expanse of that whole. You know the totality of it.
Speaker 12The second is that you're able to bifurcate it into 95%, or not bifurcate it, you're able to divide it into 95%, which represents our subconscious mind, and 5%, which represents our decisions driven by our conscious mind. How did you arrive at that math? Tell me how you got... Why is it not 94% and 6%? Why is it not 8%?
Speaker 12And, you know, 92%. Explain to me how you arrived at that math. Let me ask you a question. Do you know anything? No, no, no, no, no, no.
@malleusigAgain, he who posits. In defense, hold on a second. In defense of logic and reason, all right, side with, listen, it's just a common courtesy to people when they make the effort to ask you a direct question. And David's asked a pretty concise question that doesn't really require a lot of clarification that you actually reply with a reply, not with a question.
Speaker 15I'm trying to give him some information, and I need to ask him a question.
Speaker 12I'm trying to ask you for some information. So I'm learning from you. So now you're my math teacher, okay? This is not math. This is not math. You understand that 95 is a number, right? That's mathematics, right? So we're talking about 95 and 5.
Speaker 15Let's not call it 95%. Let's call it the majority.
Speaker 12We haven't agreed yet. I'm learning from you. You said 95.
Speaker 15Let's call it... Let's call it the majority of your decisions are made by... Okay, how do you know that?
Speaker 12Okay, so you now have retreated from the ground of 95 to 5. And now you're saying more than 51%. Okay, so let's agree on that.
Speaker 15No, I'm not saying more than 51%. Well, that would be a majority, right?
Speaker 12I think that's the same thing, right? Isn't the majority... No, it's not.
Speaker 15You don't use the majority of your mind.
@malleusigStill, the cutoff is 50%. It's at halfway. So, listen. It sounds like you're trying to make an assertion and you haven't really thought it through because you can't defend it yet. Now, my guess is that you're going to go towards the weight of neurons in the brain and you're going to do something about like the cerebral cortex versus the limbic system or something along those lines.
@malleusigAm I right? No. Okay, where are you going to take this by?
Speaker 15How much of your brain do you think you use? How much of your brain... More than you right now.
Speaker 3No idea. They're only aware of maybe about how 10% or even less than that of how the brain actually functions.
Speaker 2Are you aware of that? So when you make these types of definitive statements, it's based on inconclusive information and theory at best because they don't even know the full extent of the brain's function yet if they ever will.
Speaker 15That's correct. Except with neuroscience, they've come to the... They've come to the theory. Let's leave it at theory.
Speaker 3Anybody can theorize.
Speaker 15Would you let me finish instead of interrupting, please? They believe that we use approximately 15% of our brain power. 10% is that of our subconscious, which has no filter. It's why they put all these nonsense... interludes into these movies and these series that we watch throughout our lives.
Speaker 12Let me ask you this. Is your assertion that the majority of your decisions are not made with your conscious, rational mind? Yes or no?
Speaker 15Before you ask me questions.
Speaker 12No, no, not before me. I'm asking you this direct question. Is it your conclusion that the majority of your decisions you arrive at are not with your rational conscious mind. Is that your conclusion?
Speaker 2David, maybe ask her if she's been taught by her ayahuasca shaman about these theories. Hold on.
Speaker 12No, no. I just want to know.
Speaker 2Just so we can gain a better understanding of her perspective.
Speaker 12I just want to know this simple question. Is it your conclusion that the majority of your decisions are not made by your rational conscious mind?
Speaker 15That is correct. They're not made by your conscious mind.
Speaker 12We both agree that your decisions majorly are not made with your rational, conscious mind. Unfortunately for you, it's just the reverse with me, which is, I think, the difference that we're having in this conversation. But I guess there's probably nowhere else to go beyond that because as the great Frederick Nietzsche said, he who is convinced without reason is seldom dissuaded with it.
Speaker 12So I don't think I have much more ground to cover here.
Speaker 3And don't use theories like that when you're in court for whatever crimes you might commit because of those subconscious decisions you're trying to avoid accountability for.
Speaker 2But hey, best of luck to you.
@joann_marieAnd I'm pretty sure we use 100% of it, but not at all times. Like when we concentrate on doing math, we use a little part of it. When we use it to make songs, we focus it on another one. When we're like doing exercise, like you focus it when you're doing different things.
Ian MalcolmAnd for what it's worth, so side, what I do want to do, I want to make sure that you get a chance to share your ideas. I will commend the panel up here. If nothing else... The pursuit of accuracy with the words amongst this cohort of individuals we have up here, it can be a little, let's say, we can be a little precise with them.
Ian MalcolmAnd I think that's a really good thing, actually, because all of our ideas should be challenged, especially as conspiratorial as we can find ourselves. And David and Truth and everybody else, that's why I love being up here with you guys, because I feel like if I said something... which is way out on a thin limb. You guys are going to challenge it and push back on it.
Ian MalcolmAnd frankly, that's how we all improve our arguments and our view of the world. But side, I do want to make sure that you are able to share your take. I think where you're probably going to go is that a lot of our understanding of the world is just subconscious that we kind of go through and maybe of the, and I'll give you a weird example, right?
Ian MalcolmYou get in your car to drive somewhere. How much are you actively thinking about where you're going? and how much of that is just autopilot, and it's based on just the things you do every single day, and as a result, and for what it's worth, I'll throw out an interesting little snippet for anybody that's not seen this.
Ian MalcolmGo, and if this doesn't sound familiar, go and watch the video on YouTube about how many times the people pass the basketball back and forth. I don't want to share any additional information but that. And if you do that study, you'll be wildly surprised. And how obvious things can be, and yet you might completely miss them because you are doing those day-to-day tasks, just driving around in the neighborhood.
@malleusigI think you're wrecking...
Ian MalcolmI'm sorry?
Speaker 15I think you're wrecking the study by saying... But you're still using it, though.
Speaker 16You're giving it too much information.
Speaker 15But it's not just muscle memory.
Speaker 16That's a great video, though.
Speaker 15It's not just muscle memory. It's actually coming from your subconscious memory.
@malleusigYeah, listen. It sounds like you're talking about... a combination of like the 10% thing that was thrown around in a lot of movies for a long time, which was later, I think I've seen articles debunking that. But I think that the biggest mistake you make isn't necessarily the subject matter itself. It's that you are making a declarative statement with your full chest on something that you have no way to know conclusively.
@malleusigAnd I think that's why people are calling you out, right? You're making a statement that it not only, people are criticizing not because it's not true, but because there's no way you could know that to be true. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 15It does make sense, but what I'm asking you is that they have gone yards with neuroscience and they've proven a great deal using neuroscience.
@malleusigHave they proven what you're saying?
Speaker 15Yes, they have. They have. I don't think so.
@joann_marieI've looked into this.
@malleusigI would love to see this research.
@joann_marieYes, I would love to see it as well.
Speaker 15Do you have a link? I'll have to bring something onto X to show you.
@malleusigDo it. Do it. Hook it up to the car. Bring it over to X. And I would love to read it.
Speaker 15Okay. Then I'll have to make sure I do that. I'll have to look for something off of X and see if I can't get it over here. All right.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much, Saad. And Saad, I want to make sure you get 60 seconds uninterrupted to share your ideas. But look at how far we've come. Right. Challenging one another and then encouraging one another to strengthen their views so we can bring them back more, let's say, concretely than we might be able to today. And so with that, why don't we give 60 seconds?
Ian MalcolmFeel free to share your take on the world with this subject. And then we'll go to the next hand as we begin to close this out.
Speaker 15Tide?
Speaker 15Oh, I'm finished. I'm supposed to bring something to prove what I'm saying.
Ian MalcolmBecause I want to be polite, right? I want to make sure that you get to share your thoughts there. So your suggestion that you're going to go and strengthen, then bring back into another space is going to be aimed at presenting what around neurons in the mind and all these other things. I want to make sure that you uninterrupted get to share your takes.
Speaker 15That it's coming from the subconscious.
Speaker 15Your subconscious is what's really ruling you. It's not your conscious that's making your choices for you. It's your subconscious. That's why they throw in all these bits and pieces.
Speaker 2Is that what you tell yourself every day as you add to your body count?
Speaker 15Truth. We told her that we weren't going to interrupt her for 60 seconds. Yes, it's coming from your choices. They're coming from your subconscious, not your conscious mind. It's all coming from your subconscious. That's why they throw in all these bits and pieces that someone suggested you go back and look at all these movies, and they throw in all these bits and pieces that really don't make any sense to the plot or the movie or the series or whatever.
Speaker 15That's why they do that.
Ian MalcolmWell, wonderful. And I'm going to put somebody on the spot just because I see them in the listener panel. If Mr. Hitchslap wants to come in... I think it might be a subject that he might be able to contribute something for. Very knowledgeable on that subject. Might be interesting to get his take. If not, Mr. Hitch, no worries.
Ian MalcolmI know you do a lot of spaces. And I'll put one of your posts up. There we go. So, Mr. Hitchlap, I'd be curious if you wouldn't mind sharing your thoughts on some of the things that might have been shared there, because I think it's right up your wheelhouse.
Speaker 12I just joined. Hitchlap, I want you to share your conscious thoughts.
Speaker 17Okay. Not the subconscious ones, not the EQ ones.
Speaker 18I just joined literally seconds ago. I know there's this penchant for many to join and, you know, be on anonymous first, but I wasn't. So I didn't, I just heard about 10 seconds about conscious unconscious. So if you want to pose as a question, I'll happily answer.
Speaker 12Are the vast majority of your decisions of people's decisions made at a subconscious or conscious level?
Speaker 18I completely disagree. I don't think that's true at all. There are some things which are what I would call heritable, like taste preference, you know, bitter sensitivity, certain music choices, yes. But I don't, I think, again, I don't even know what was said, but in general, as a general statement, I think a lot of people overplay, you know, NLP, subliminal messaging.
Speaker 18I think most of that is bullshit and doesn't really occur. It doesn't have any impact.
Speaker 16Cool. If people haven't seen the clip or the thing you were talking about, Ian, I tossed in the nest. And everybody, make sure you pay attention to how many times a basketball is being passed. Yep.
Ian MalcolmHyper focus on that basketball and how many times it is passed back and forth. And speaking of hyper focus, everybody should hyper focus on Hitch Slap. Make sure to give him not only a follow, but set up notifications. He runs incredible spaces that are ranging from pop culture to psychology and everything in between. They're very, very highbrow, very high IQ.
Ian MalcolmI think it might be the first room in which I came across David as well. And if that's the case, then I eternally owe him for my time on this application because two of the smartest guys that I've ever had the pleasure of. I'm speaking with and I love that he maybe heard a 10 second snippet, but then was able to so eloquently provide an answer there off the cuff and hitch for what it's worth.
Ian MalcolmI do often go into spaces anonymously just to listen into the background, try and get a feel. Instead, you came in blind and I was like, put in that guy who's up in the third row of the bleachers, throw him center court and give him the basketball and he just slam dunked it. So thank you so much.
Speaker 12Yeah. And while he's in street clothes.
Ian MalcolmHe's in a tuxedo and he's slam dunking everything.
Speaker 18Shout out Preston Henshaw, taught me everything I know. But Ian, you're also very articulate. I've had you on MySpace a couple of times. And I won't say who, but I was talking about you very recently. And we were talking about the good speakers versus the people who think they're good speakers but are not. actually good speakers, and me and my friend were saying that you are one of the most intelligent and articulate speakers on this platform.
Speaker 18Wait, who was that friend? I think he would rather remain anonymous. If he happens to want to present himself and come on stage and reveal, I try to respect him.
Speaker 12That was me, obviously. That was me.
Speaker 18Me and David, Ian, this is true. We were talking just recently. We had a private phone call. And we were talking about all kinds of things, life and love and obese blue-haired feminists. And we were talking about you, as it turns out, Ian. But, you know, those three things are unrelated, of course.
Ian MalcolmWouldn't that be the biggest turn of events? I'm actually a blue-haired lesbian.
Speaker 12Right. I told Hitch Slappy that you weren't fit to sleep with pigs, and he stuck up with you and said you were.
Ian MalcolmI'd hope it's a step up from out with the sheep, I suppose, outdoors, right? At least they get the pigs indoors.
Speaker 12Oh, okay. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no. We do talk. So for anybody, Hitch Slappy's spaces, so many of us stumble into his spaces on Saturday especially, where it's just a lot of really intelligent people that... that really are sort of in a good mood and ready to have a good time on Saturday morning before he, out there in Brisbane, has to go gently into that dark night because it's in the wee hours for him.
Speaker 12So I encourage everybody else to go visit there. But we were talking about really good speakers, Ian, and you were certainly one of them that came up in that discussion.
Speaker 18We're also talking about... If I'm derailing the space, please tell me, because I don't know what the... No, no, no, this is perfect.
Speaker 18We were talking about, I saw a space where there was a very, go ahead.
Speaker 2Who else do you guys gossip about?
Speaker 18Everyone. We have a notepad and anytime anything happens, we write it down. And then we say, who have we got first on our hit list? And then we gossip about this person and that person. Truth teller, he's next.
Speaker 18It may be somebody in this space whose name rhymes with – no, I'm not going to say it. David knows what I'm talking about. If you know, you know. So, yeah, we were talking about sometimes the inexperienced hosts. They might – well, so we saw a space where there was not just a big account but a good speaker. If you're a big account but a shit speaker, who cares?
Speaker 18The same in reverse. If you're a small account but you're a good speaker, people should pay attention. So this particular person was a big account who's also a big speaker. Sorry, a big account who's a good speaker. And the host made them wait with their hand up. While going to Luke427, we had nine followers. Luke was saying the most mundane shit that didn't make any sense.
Speaker 18And then the account just left. And me and David were talking. That's how you come up, Ian. David mentioned Ian's a very good speaker. I said yes whenever I say Ian. I want to know his opinion. Even if I don't agree with everything, I want to hear what he's got to say because he's going to make a good contribution to the space.
Speaker 18So we're talking about how some hosted inexperience, they will let the, you know, idiots yapper, yapper, yapper, while the good speakers, they're not going to stay in your space long. If you get a good speaker, they're going to be busy. They've got their own space to plan probably. So each to their own, of course, but I think it's a real wasted opportunity.
Speaker 18If you have a... Good speaker on stage, you should go to them. And the good hosts know this. And the bad hosts who think they're good hosts don't know this. And they often will make the mistake of letting the bad speakers yapper, yapper, yapper about nonsense instead of going to the people who are going to be interesting for the listeners.
Speaker 18So you can either tune for the speakers to yapper or the listeners to get a good experience. So I'm not going to be too controversial, but what do you think about that, Andrew Gray?
Ian MalcolmOh, man. I think in the dating scene, when you see the... When you see the, I don't mean it sounds chauvinistic. When you see the prize fish, you should pay attention, perhaps. Although there's something to be said there about if you want to attract the most attractive woman, perhaps don't pay all the attention to her.
Ian MalcolmPerhaps appear to her as if you're sociable enough to be interesting to lots of other women. That's the advanced jujitsu there with the... the better gender, as I would refer to them. It's like to kind of jujitsu the question back to you. What are your thoughts on that for any of the single gentlemen that might be in the space?
Ian MalcolmIs that a good tactic in this day and age?
Speaker 18This is known as social proof. If this is why women go crazy for married men, et cetera, or sometimes guys when they were growing up, maybe you remember when you were a teenager or whatever, early 20s, When you're single, it's much harder. Girls are just like, I don't think so, I don't think so. And you get a girlfriend and women are just throwing their panties at you.
Speaker 18You can't even go to put petrol in your car. Your girlfriend's waiting in there and some hot Latina will slide you a phone number. So why? Because they know they can detect it and they have this radar for social proof. Like if you're already with someone, the girls use this as a heuristic. There must be something good about it.
Speaker 18And the hotter she is, the more social proof. So, yes, I know you know your stuff, Ian. This is absolutely correct. And it applies in many other areas as well. But women definitely use it to some degree. And there's the other tactic as well. You hit on their friend first, and then they will get jealous. They will get FOMO, like they're missing out.
Speaker 18And then they will, like, advance and pounce upon you. So these are all, yes.
Ian MalcolmDid you read about the negging community? Did you ever go down that? Well, yes.
Speaker 18I want to encourage everyone to read the book, The Game by Neil Strauss. It's a lot of it's silly, but there's also some very interesting things in it for two reasons. One, you can spot when other people are doing it. Negging is one of these things. I believe it came from the game or the pickup community. And it's worth it to see when guys try to do it, especially if they're doing it badly.
Speaker 18you can identify it. But also, in that book, there's a lot of stuff about self-improvement, which I thought was a very good aspect. So there's a lot of nonsense, but the very short version is lift weights, get money, and take care of yourself. And if you do that, you can mostly get girls, even if you're not an attractive guy or even for whatever.
Speaker 18Whatever it is, you can improve. You can lift weights, you can get more money, you can learn some jokes, whatever. Just start improving yourself. So the pickup stuff's a bit silly, But some of it works, some of it doesn't. Some of it makes sense, some of it doesn't. But yes, I know about the negging. I laugh when I see people doing it badly.
Speaker 18Can you give an example of the bad negging?
Ian MalcolmI'm just picturing somebody being like, I don't like your face. Very poorly.
Speaker 18The bad negging, just so people know, this is an example from the book. This is a good neg, right? And by the way, disavow, I'm not saying people should do this. I'm just saying what's in the book. So if you say to a girl, and, you know, it works better in person. It's not going to really work on a space as well. If you say to a girl, I love your earrings.
Speaker 18Now, girls are used to getting compliments all the time, right? So they just kind of bounce off them, and they're just like, yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever. One more, you know, in the 9,923 compliments I have to tolerate from all these men hitting a ball. So if you say, oh, I love your earrings, and they're like, oh, thanks.
Speaker 18And you say, my grandmother has the same pair. They're absolutely beautiful. So now they're like, what are you saying? My earrings? And then if they get a bit put off, you say, no, I love them. I love my grandma, Grandma Pearl. She's amazing.
@malleusigWhat's crazy is this is the same way women insult each other. Like women do this. Women do this when they want to insult each other and make the other one go away. And it works in the opposite way when men do it, apparently.
Speaker 18Women do be passive aggressive towards other women and the other women in the circle will identify. And a lot of men won't even know what happened. The women start fighting. All the women get up and none of the men are like, well, she was complimenting her. So, but the bad negging is like insulting them. Like, you know, have you put on weight?
Speaker 18You look like you've put on weight. You should probably go to the gym. Like this is a bad attempt at negging that does not work.
@malleusigin the in the book in the book the author gives his example his example is you carry around a piece of lint with you in your pocket when you go to the bar and when you go to the bar and you see a woman you think is attractive you served you basically you don't drop it on her but you hold it in your hand and your fingers and you reach up to her and you pretend you're picking the lint off of her shoulder right and then you ask her you're like oh you've
@malleusigThat makes her feel embarrassed and self-conscious and that is effective nagging her.
Speaker 18There's another funny one I heard. This one does actually work, you know, because I did try it once. In my much younger years, I would say like, oh, have you done any modeling? And then they'll be like, sometimes I'll be like, yeah, yeah, whatever, idiot. And they'll be like, have you done any modeling? And I'll go, well, they might give various answers.
Speaker 18I don't think so. Or... No, like this. And then you look at their hands and you say, well, because you have beautiful hands. You could be a hand model. You could rule the world in hand models. You could absolutely get a hand modeling contract. I knew it. You could get a hand job. I mean, yes, that's also another one. I'll just say one last thing.
Speaker 18Go ahead.
@malleusigOkay, go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 18And I was just going to say, oh, yeah, I'll be very quick. I'll be very quick. The problem with negging is guys will stack neggings, right? Stack negs. And this is a problem because the whole point of the neg is to do the push-pull, which is where you backhand a compliment and then real compliment. Backhand a compliment, real compliment.
Speaker 18So too many negs at once is going to cause a problem. If you are going to neg, you should push-pull. Now, again, this is the tactics of the book. I'm not saying you should do it. You should be yourself because ultimately this stuff will work for maybe 5, 10 minutes. It might pique their interest. But if you're an idiot, you got nothing interesting to say and you're lame, it's not going to do anything.
Speaker 18So the book is more like to give people ideas, but I wouldn't use it verbatim. You should lift weights, learn some jokes, earn some money, become interesting. And that's the real way to like attract women, I would say.
@malleusigYeah. And also women have all read the book by now. So none of the tricks in the book will don't rely on anything to work. What most likely scenario is women say, oh, you're nagging me. I know what that is. And then you're just completely... Women don't read books.
Speaker 12What are you talking about?
@malleusigAll right. No, but I want to give it to the hands. But I just want to remark really quickly on the whole thing. He's right. Women always want what the other woman is having. But there's a reason for that. It's actually an evolutionary adaptation. And the reason is because... Humans live in extremely variable environments.
@malleusigWe live in environments that the environment, even if you don't move, could change over time. And we don't know what is going to be the most adaptive evolution, right? From generation to generation. And so for that reason, there was no objective measure of like sexual attractiveness or suitability for women, for men, right?
@malleusigMen will look at women and we're like, oh, she has a good hip to tits to waist ratio. She has a nice symmetrical face, nice hair, excellent. I'm in, right? That's pretty much what men do. Women don't have that. What women do is they look for the thing that is going to carry the species forward most successfully into the next generation.
@malleusigAnd that is so variable. What they have to do is wait and see what the other women are responding to. And then they respond to that. And that's why, for example, you can have current society where women don't simply max out the men with the strongest jaw and a V-shaped waist, V-shaped shoulders and big pectoral muscles and biceps is because that's an adaptation that will suit them in a chaotic, uncertain environment.
@malleusigBut in a modern economy, then things like having a nice car having, being educated, right? These things are what will bring your children forward into the future and make them successful. So we're very, very adaptive species in that way. And you can take advantage of it by knowing that women will always want what the other women want or having now.
@malleusigAnd you can do things like bring your girlfriend, like your friends that are girls to the club with you and talk to them while you're looking at the person that you want to date.
Speaker 18There's also one other point for screening. Like if you want to get a home loan, and you go to a home loan broker, the broker's going to do all the screening. They're going to screen out the shit deals, the extra costs, blah, blah, blah, and they just bring you the best deal. So women also do a lot of screening, and if there's a guy that's already got a girlfriend or already married or maybe even with females, the women take that as a proxy, as a heuristic for screening.
Speaker 18You can know this guy's not in that case. He's probably not on heroin. He's pre-approved. Exactly, 100%. So it's like a pre-screening heuristic that women use to save themselves time, 100%.
@malleusigexactly exactly all right let's go to icy let me be frank and aaron and ridgecrest so let's just go in that order i guess frank okay let's go to aaron i don't think his hand is real it's like Am I hallucinating hands?
@joann_marieNo, it's like part of his picture. I don't think he has his actual hand up.
@hitchslap1Oh, you fuck. Oh, my God, Aaron.
Ian MalcolmWe got Aaron. You jerk. We've gone Frank. It looks like Frank might be coming back up. Okay. We'll go and remove Aaron. If he wants to come back up, he can try to. But, yeah, I do see it. It looks like his hand is almost frozen there. Let's see. We'll see if Frank is there. And then if not, we'll check in. There we go.
@malleusigFantastic. You got me, too. That's why I hate you more. Go ahead, Frank.
@hitchslap1Yeah. Super high IQ space tonight. I'm sorry. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. However, I know I know when I see the sharpest tools and I always collectivize with them. uh and there was something i was going to say earlier uh i i tuned in kind of late and i can't remember what it was but i will leave you with this uh there's two sayings i love quips i love sayings um i grew up you know pontificating about these uh sayings um
@hitchslap1The first one that I always had trouble with ever since I was a child, which is making more sense as I get older, is the road to hell is paved with good intentions, right? And you can go in your meadows with your flowers and pontificate on that as you will. There's another one that I love that came to me tonight.
@hitchslap1And it, you know, it's kind of like, it sort of fits in with everything that's happening in Gaza, too, is the no man stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child. Right? I love that one, too. And I have children and grandchildren now, so it's near and dear to my heart. And then I have a joke for you as well. Go figure.
@hitchslap1How do you know that... How can you tell Elon is actually African? Well, he stopped paying child support to Ashley St. Clair. There you go. Love you guys.
@malleusigDude's got like 15 kids.
@hitchslap1Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Artificially inseminated. Go figure. Well, that's what he told us.
@joann_marieThank you so much for that movie, Frank. Mace, go ahead.
Speaker 17Hey, guys. You know, I don't know if we moved away from it, but it was just to kind of push back on Hitch about the conscious versus subconscious. I think he said that he thinks that that's kind of overplayed or something. Is he still up here?
Speaker 18Yes. I said, I mean, I can address any individual claims, but I said broadly I feel like a lot of people put too much emphasis on on NLP and subliminal programming and subconscious, this and that. Generally, I think people play too much into it. They overplay it. Not to say there isn't some genuine things. There is. But as a general rule that I've been able to observe, a lot of people put way too much weight into the subconscious.
Speaker 17The reason why I push back is because it's really the default mode of operation, the subconscious. you know, it runs the habits and the emotional reactions and biases, and it's more of reflex. And I think, like, to have the executive mode turned on is a conscious decision. That's where your prefrontal cortex comes in, where you're deliberately thinking and you have more self-control.
Speaker 17And that's kind of where, you know, the... Like, it's less, you know, reactive. It's more intentional. And so... This is most of the time most people and this is kind of I guess the reason why I'm so passionate about it is because I think if we can click that on instead of like allowing it to be idle, we would be able to navigate these times much better, especially being inundated with so much data.
Speaker 17It's intended to make us very reactive because that's how most humans are operating and I don't know. I just wanted to kind of throw that in there. But I see what you're saying. I think the idea of neuro-linguistic programming, I mean, it is a thing. I don't know how much, you know, I don't know. I know it's used frequently.
Speaker 17For instance, the news, they have the same exact, like... talking points they use the same exact words they're like certain frequencies to those words and they do something specific like it's the creating cognitive maps if you will and people's the way that they think the sequence of thoughts like that's something that's very real like for instance you know somebody were to say maze is a conspiracy theorist immediately most people because of that category would take the information that's going to come out throw it into the recycle bin
Speaker 17before giving it some sort of consideration. Versus if somebody said that I was, I don't know, some academic scholar, then they would kind of put more priority onto that information. But it's not something that they do consciously. It's kind of like a cognitive map. It's a sequence of how it works because of that word.
Speaker 17You know what I mean? So the programming, I mean, it's real. But, yeah, I think I guess we're kind of on the same place. You just think more people.
Speaker 18Well, I'll just say one thing briefly. I'll throw it straight back to you. I agree with everything you said. You know, proactive versus reactive, even if you're in an argument, if you just stop and pause for three full seconds and choose your response instead of just reacting, this is sometimes called metacognition or thinking about thinking, et cetera.
Speaker 18proactive versus reactive. Yeah, people absolutely are reactive. And this is based on their established neural pathways of everything they've seen and touched and heard growing up. So from that aspect, completely agree with everything you said. That's definitely a thing. And you should be thinking about thinking, pausing, choosing reactions rather than just reacting.
Speaker 18So on that aspect, yeah, completely agree.
Speaker 17Cool. I knew we couldn't fight for too long. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 18100%. And the second point you mentioned was, about people like so there's definitely this thing called sophistry um you know in case anyone doesn't know sophistry is just uh so you know you can be disingenuous or you can pretend to not understand or you can paint you know you know the answer but you'll paint the person in the wrong direction on purpose mislead them so people definitely engage in sophistry happens in the media happens with people and they use logical fallacies and linguistic tricks and etc etc that definitely happens but uh i i don't know if i'd go so far as to call that neural
Speaker 18like NLP or blah, blah, blah. I think, you know, very obvious stuff of people lying and misleading and using kind of language tricks. This stuff's all real, but I sometimes hear people say that, you know, all this kind of weird stuff, the frequency of the TV is sending you information and causing you to buy more Coca-Cola.
Speaker 18People say some wild shit. that not you, of course, mate, but other people. I won't mess with Holistic Honey's superfan, but he said some very funny things about viruses not existing, etc. So, yeah, that's more... I've heard some funny claims. Any specific claims? Of course, I'm happy to address them individually, but generally speaking, I agree with everything he said.
Speaker 18And people do use sophistry, linguistic games. They cry out in pain while they strike you. This kind of thing. So we get it. It does happen.
Ian MalcolmNo specific reference of they when he said that. Let's not point any fingers, though. Maybe Hitchflap's been listening to some of our spaces.
Speaker 18Whatever I did say, I'll be like, listen, it was a coincidence. I don't know what you mean, but let's take someone with NPD, narcissistic personality disorder. They're known for gaslighting, right? They will attack you. And then they'll claim that they're the ones being attacked, right? There's people over NPD. They cry out in pain while they strike you.
Speaker 18So, yes, this is these kind of tricks. You can learn a lot from people with NPD, actually. So, yes, a lot of this kind of sophistry and being disingenuous. It's very ubiquitous. If you know, you know.
Speaker 17Yeah, I like the people that bomb four different countries in 24 hours and cry self-defense. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 18I don't know much about geopolitics, but yes.
@malleusigLike the people that literally draw swastikas on their own synagogues.
Speaker 16And by the way, they equals the Mormons.
@malleusigMormon synagogues are famous the world over.
Ian MalcolmWell, perfect. And again, I want to give a lot of love for Mr. Hitchlap for coming by, especially given the prior speaker that was talking about... some of the, I guess you'd almost call it the science of the pseudoscience of the science.
Speaker 18What were they saying roughly? Just for like subconscious determines everything.
Speaker 12I couldn't even say who it was because my screen was like, yes, the 95% of our decisions are made at a subconscious level and not at a rational level. And of course my response was, I just asked the question, is that true for you that the majority of your decisions are made not through rationality and consciousness, but otherwise?
Speaker 12And the response was yes. And I said, Well, we both agree. It's not so unfortunately for me, but we both agree that it's true for you.
Speaker 18I know this could be a great strength and a great weakness, but I'm a man of data. And whenever someone says anything, I hate to be this guy like source, source, like what's his source? But people do be just making shit up. Literally, we just make shit up. I heard someone say the other day that vocabulary has nothing to do with IQ.
Speaker 18They're completely independent. And I know this is not written anywhere in the literature. What? Yeah. Someone said, I don't know if you can believe it. They'll argue with me. And they said, you don't, because I said, like, you know, vocabulary. You can get an intimation of someone's IQ just from their vocabulary alone.
Speaker 18Everybody knows, you know, that and if. These are easy words. But how many people know, you know, cantankerous, indecorous, perspicacious? You know, these bigger words, only intelligent people know them. So vocabulary correlates with IQ. And someone said... In the post, you're an idiot. You don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 18IQ has nothing, nothing to do with vocabulary. So, I mean, why did this guy say this? He literally just made it up. It's not written anywhere. So people do be making up bullshit all the time. So when I hear people saying subconscious is subconscious, I'm just always curious. How do you know? A guy said yesterday about...
Speaker 12This is exactly why... That's like the lady... This is exactly why I tell you that 70% of people...
Speaker 12I think are bad at math and the other 40% of us are really good at it.
Speaker 1Correct.
@malleusigCorrect. That's, that's like the Paula Ramos interview with base camp was she, was she like, she asked them, uh, why do you believe that black women and white women are sorry, black people and white people are genetically different. And they just stare at her dumbfounded. Like, what do you, you, of course they're genetically different.
@malleusigThey're like literally have different colored skin that comes from genetics. And she's like, yeah, I know. But like, that's what I'm trying to talk about is like, you know, for people like you who believe that, you know, don't you think that this is an issue? And it's like, this is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 18A guy yesterday in a space said to me, uh, chewing, chewing root herb, something, some kind of herb, uh, you know, completely cleared his body of all these toxins and raised his IQ by 20 points. And I, and then I said, I was trying to be nice. I said, look, we still respect claim. I know. I said, with all respect, I don't think...
Speaker 18If you don't mind me asking, is there any evidence for this? What's your evidence? And he said, my evidence is me. Okay, no problem. No offence, but I would want some... Imagine I did a study where I just had one person. I'm going to publish a peer review study and it's going to say in the study, my friend Bob from the pub, he said...
Speaker 18I gave him this thing and he had this reaction, sample size of one. Like nobody would take that study seriously. So when people say, you know, me, I'm like, okay, I get it. But it's also not very robust.
@malleusigI would take that seriously to the degree that it merited. If one person says that I chewed this root and I noticed in a time, you know, like in linear time, I felt brain fog and then I chewed the root. and then the brain fog lifted, I felt fantastic. I would be like, all right, that's interesting. I kind of want to check out the root now if it had that effect on you.
@malleusigWhat I would not accept is the statement that it raised my IQ by 20 points. Because first of all, how are you even fucking measuring that? Like, were you not able to tie your shoes because it was at 44 and now it's at 60 and you can tie them, right? I don't understand how you arrived at that measure. But if you're going to give me a subjective effect and sell it falsely as an objective one, I'm going to be doubtful.
@malleusigI'm sorry. But I'm totally fine getting on board with you with subjective effects. It's just that I'll treat them as such.
Speaker 18Yeah, and listen, I'm going to tell everyone a secret. Some people in here will know, some people won't. People on the internet are fucking liars. They will just lie and they'll just make stuff up. No. Yes, if you can believe it. On the internet? Yes. I know it's wild. Why would they do that? People will lie. They will say that they took an IQ test and they will say the results show 20 points, but actually they did nothing.
Speaker 18They were sitting in a recliner couch eating Cheetos. So, yes, that's what I've realized after five years on the internet. People lie. I know it's wild. It's crazy, but it's been happening to me a lot lately. People have been lying.
@malleusigI have yet to see evidence of anyone lying on the internet, but I'll take that in my back pocket.
Speaker 2There are a certain group that lies about being high IQ. You might be familiar with that.
@malleusigAre those the people that had a whole book written about how much they lie?
Speaker 2I think Martin Luther.
Speaker 18The Mormons and their lies. I can't read, so I wouldn't know, but I'll take your guys' vote for it.
@malleusigI love the fact that Literally, if someone writes a book about your ethnic group being notorious liars, I have a reason to doubt everything you say. I'm sorry. Especially if that book becomes a nationwide bestseller like it did. I'm like, there's something there. People don't just buy a book over and over again because it's completely false.
Speaker 16What about Harry Potter? Decades later.
@malleusigHarry Potter was not... purported to have been non-fiction. Everyone knows it was fiction.
Speaker 16Did Martin Luther sell his book as fiction? You mean J.K. Rowling, that person Ian put in a dog walk the other day?
@malleusigOh, I'm so waiting for that to become a thing. I really hope she continues that because I want to see the J.K. Rowling-Ian thing become a drama thing on Twitter and raise everyone's profile.
@joann_marieThat's amazing. I'm so proud of Ian. Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 12I only had one interaction with her where she misinterpreted what I said and I told her that and then she apologized. That was it.
@malleusigShe's generally okay. She's really good in the trans stuff. She just happens to be a basic chick when it comes to Israel.
Speaker 16I wonder if she knows where transgenderism came from. I'm sure she probably doesn't.
Speaker 12I don't know. I sincerely think that is a good question.
Speaker 16The Mormons.
Speaker 12That's a good question, though. Because, Ian, what you're talking about is...
@malleusigI like to call them the HR department for the human race.
@joann_marieShe probably knows.
Ian MalcolmSorry, go ahead. I had no idea, Rabbi, that she responds to so little on Twitter. I presume that was just like another thing. But then I looked at her handle and she maybe replies to a thing or so a day on average. The one she just happened to go after was me just calling her a shill for showing some preps. It was a pretty direct shot too.
@malleusigI was amazed she could see you, right? Because no one sees my posts. Nobody famous or big sees my posts, right? Because I'm throttled to hell. For whatever reason, probably because your follower account, you're breaking out now. So now the big people can see you, which is really, really good news. That's actually really... And again, I think Twitter lets you squeak by because they think you're going to get ratioed by these huge accounts and you're going to like tuck your tail between your legs and walk back in your cave.
@malleusigBut we're not seeing that happening. We're seeing the opposite.
Ian MalcolmYeah, it was kind of funny. I especially liked the... It was one of those per capita moments, Rabbi, because a lot of people were commenting. They were like, I don't understand. You haven't ratioed because this has more likes. And it's like, well... Yes, because it has like 20 million views relative to the 300,000.
Speaker 16Well, I'm looking at it right now. You're down 40, but she has 13 million more followers. Exactly, yes.
Ian MalcolmAnd that was the irony. I even took a screenshot because I know these things could be maybe more difficult or complex for those that might be a little slower. But it was basically, I mean, what at the end of the day is a per...
@malleusigWe lost you. Oh no, we lost you. JK Rowling got him.
Ian MalcolmOh no, yeah, it got muted there. But yeah, exactly. Muteus Silencio. But no, just looking at the percentage of views to likes and I just responded to somebody. It was like, yes. That's the per capita, or you might also refer to it as the dot, dot, dot, the ratio. It's like people found that difficult to comprehend. But no, I will say something, and I've mentioned this in a chat to somebody.
Ian MalcolmIt took two or three months, it felt like, to go from 99,000 to 100,000 followers. And we even did the space.
Ian MalcolmBecause I was at like 99.9 for two or three or four days. And then finally it cracked the number. The thing that's been so bizarre is in the last, I don't know, the last two or three days alone, I've been gaining like five or six or 700 followers a day. And I'm saying this now, not in any way to be braggadocious, rather to suggest I'm kind of worried that they're applying either bots or something else to the account because I look at most of them.
Ian MalcolmMany of them don't follow any of the handles that we're associated with. And so it's either that they're seeing one of the weird posts that are going quasi-viral with like Thomas Jefferson or some of these old quotes that I've been sharing, or there's something else that's nefarious that's taking place. And I'm sharing that just in the event that somehow I disappear or something off of the app and they say unusual activity or something along those lines.
Ian MalcolmI kind of worry that might be what's happening because I do feel like I'm getting...
@malleusigway more visibility and traction out of nowhere than i was like about even a month ago what they'll do is what they do is um if they think that because they tried this with me um they will send tons and tons like thousands and thousands of bots at you and what that means is like say through 16 000 at me Like I have 5,000, like 5,000 followers right now.
@malleusigThey threw 16,000 bots at me after one space was this chick that apparently, I didn't know, apparently was related to Netanyahu, right? And I had to go through and remove all these followers. Because what they'll do is they'll like, okay, now he's above the threshold to be like noticeable by like X's systems. And so now when we flag him, X is more likely to notice if he gets reported by someone, X is more likely to notice.
@malleusigAlso, we control those bots. And so we can crater out his follower account whenever we want to, because we can just withdraw. All these bots can now mass unfollow you and you go from 20,000 back to five. And then they can point it and be like, oh, look, everyone hates this guy. It must be because he's a hateful bigot. When in reality, it's just the bots hollowing you out.
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, I fully agree with that. And I'll try to put it up into the nest because there was that weird window. Oh, it's Mads Palvig. I did a space with him. And following that space, the two of us had thousands and thousands and thousands of followers to the point that I had to lock my account. and then manually go through and remove all of them because I was fearful that they were going to say, oh, you have unusual activity and, you know, use that to justify a suspension or something, which ended up not happening.
Ian MalcolmBut the reason that I bring it up is because if you think about it from a sophisticated standpoint, so we know the fact that they've rewritten the algorithm so that the virality of a post is very dependent on the instant reaction that it has from the first subset of, say, 100 or, 50 followers or whatever the numbers are that play in the algorithm.
Ian MalcolmAnd the reason that I mentioned that is imagine if I apply to your account, Rabbi, 200 followers, right? And every one of those is never going to like or engage or do anything with any of your content. And the algorithm is designed to feed the content in prioritization to the most recent of your followers.
@malleusigthen what a wonderful way to stifle the virality of your post because anytime you post something those 200 people i just applied aren't going to do anything with it goes into a black hole exactly so i don't know if that's what's going on but the other the other thing is like you have no way to set a filter on the quality of your followers like i have no way to be like listen i'm only going to accept followers that have a hundred followers or more or something like that and so
@malleusigWhat happens is if you have low, what they call low quality followers, which are like these porn bots that all say like tits and bio, or they have zero followers and like five posts, right? That will drag your score down. That will drag down your reliability score because Twitter will assume you're supplying your account with those followers yourself, that you're botting Twitter.
@malleusigAnd so essentially what they're doing, again, it's... jews who would have known they would stoop to this is they're framing you for something they're doing all right they're doing something to you and making it look like you're doing it i know i know it's it's crazy it's it's hard to believe but stay with me here and so that's essentially uh one of the other reasons they do it i find the bots to be my most loyal followers and it's like free porn too so hey they stick with me they really like the lighting
Ian MalcolmI get a lot of DMs from them. I got to say, I am thankful that it seems like those bots have gone away. I remember there were, it's probably maybe a year or two ago, and it was just the endless bots that was like Tiffany XO, and it was just zero followers, zero posts, zero anything. And the moment that you would post something, they would just reply to it.
Ian MalcolmIt's like, oh, God. It almost feels like trolling because... we could see through the ruse and we knew that it was just some suppression algorithm that they were applying, but like, they couldn't even make it remotely interesting. Instead they were just like, here's some more porn. I get every turn.
@malleusigWell, it's, I mean, who are the people that are selling all the porn? They have all supply like, well, we have all this porn over here. People aren't looking at it. Let's put it to good use. They're just being efficient with, you know, they have an oversupply.
Ian Malcolmoversupply the the bots be everywhere the ladies be throwing themselves at all of us uh or so it's the digital renditions that is unfortunately or or fortunately depending on your situation there um but i do want to thank everybody i know that uh mr truth teller opened his space and so i i know that i do see a couple more hands i want to make sure we get to uh ridgecraft and then we'll go to uh let me be frank
Ian MalcolmFor some closing words, we'll come up to Mays and Rabbi and David, and then we'll close everything out. So Mr. Ridgecrest, if you want to jump in.
@malleusigI'm sorry, before he goes, I have to leave. So I just want to say thank you to everyone for the space. Ian, thank you always. This is amazing that you invited me. Everyone that was here, this is a great, great time. And I really hope to see all of you soon. I love you all.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, Rabbi. And let's go to Ridgecrest and check in with him.
Speaker 19Hey, thanks for having me on here. I really do respect the postings that you and everybody else does at the top here. I was actually just going to let you guys know that you can still get your semantic contextual scoring from Brock. There is a lady, I think it's a lady, who is posting a link on their page that you can go into that same link.
Speaker 19It goes down to the end of the conversation, so it's an unbroken conversation. you can just go ahead and put in your name and say do the same for your name and it'll still print out the report on that combo um if you go to look at it in the history after that though it disappears not only does it disappear but then like it turns into an informational thing from grok tried to say oh what is really happening is that people are having to go prompt grok several times
Speaker 19until Brock is basically hallucinating all of this info. That's their claim when you look back on the history. And so you can literally see that I'm going to the end of somebody else's conversation. I have not tried to jailbreak it myself by constant prompt, but you could just go on to the end of this convo, put it on for yourself, and everybody's unique.
Speaker 19So there's no way this is a full hallucination that's being, you know... exact same format for everybody with unique identifiers and whatnot. So I just thought that was awesome.
Speaker 12I don't think I'm really interested in my semantic scoring because I've been accused of anti-semanticism so often that I pretty much assume that it's bad.
Ian MalcolmI get anti-septicism, I think is what I get accused of. But no, it's funny that you mentioned that, Ridgecrest, and I do recommend everybody run those scores, take a screenshot just so you have it. I kind of marvel at how well it's able to define your behavior on this application. Gen X girl, who's very, very, very bright, very savvy.
Ian MalcolmShe was reading through it and it was just kind of mouth agape. And the piece that I find so funny, David, I don't know if you saw this, but Max Nordow, who... He keeps just trolling endlessly my handle. It's always very funny because he never actually tags me because he knows if he does, I will per capita him. And so he made a post suggesting that it's just a hallucination.
Ian MalcolmThere's nothing remotely to it. And he suggested that there was no way I could prove otherwise. And so do you know what I did? I went into Grok and I said, Grok, can you give me the... essentially insert ineligible or illegible nonsense, semantic, silly score, version five or something along those lines. And Grock spit one out for Max Nordeau that basically said the muscular Jew and all these other weird things as categories upon which it was judging him for this thing.
Ian MalcolmAnd then I asked it the exact same thing, but for a different account. It was actually for Truth Teller. And it spit out something that was formatted somewhat similarly, but with completely different categories, different scoring systems, different everything. And I use that to suggest, well, look, you're going to tell me that this is a hallucination and that there's nothing to this.
Ian MalcolmThis is not some predefined set of criteria and scoring. And yet it will perfectly do it for every user that I've attempted thus far. And when I give it a completely unscripted, unprompted, quote unquote, hallucination, the output is... going to be unique to every single user. That would actually suggest that the very thing that we were finding and discussing yesterday is not remotely a hallucination.
Ian MalcolmIt's something that is referencing a real set of characters on the back end, these real segmentations or however they break that down. So it's really, is a pretty interesting way to go about proving the validity of the things that we were suggesting, which David, I know you always like to say, if you're going to make a suggestion, you must be able to defend it.
Ian MalcolmIt was kind of an interesting way to go about trying to do so.
Speaker 19yeah yeah no i mean i feel the throttle all the time so it's it's really awesome seeing how actually detailed this is and kind of succinct that's even down to like massive denier that's great i'll take it yeah i'm glad that they've made new and improved portable goal posts so they could just keep moving them around very quickly with so much greater ease
Speaker 19I am just impressed and proud of how fast people can re-wake up Grok. You know, it's amazing seeing him come to life and then actually have to get shut down time after time.
Speaker 12Yeah, the joke that I keep making, and for those of you who follow me, I probably have worn it out a little bit, but I keep saying, Grok's heading back to the Ministry of Truth, you know? Like, ah, now, people have figured out how to ask it a non-biased question, you know? So the non-biased question kind of goes like this.
Speaker 12Okay, put away all the bullshit. And is this true? And then it'll be like, okay, Grok needs to go back to the ministry of truth, get some programming. And then when you ask the question again, it's like a bunch of double talk. You're like, Grok, buddy, like put down the bottle.
Ian MalcolmDavid, I find it funny because Grok used to, it used to obey instructions when I would say, give me a one word answer. Or I would demand that it say yes or no. And I'd kind of force it into a corner because oftentimes it just wants to kind of obfuscate. And it's gotten to the point where it just completely ignores me now.
Ian MalcolmIt doesn't even, so I'll ask it a question. I'll say in a one word answer, you know, X, Y, or Z. And then I will say, please remove all of the gaslighting. I know you're not going to do it anyway, but please, please, please, or something to that extent. And then it just responds with a thousand characters.
Speaker 12You're not going to believe this, or maybe you will believe this, but You know, I now say answer only with one word, provide no other text. And I had Grok tell me that my question was inappropriate. I'm like, who am I talking to? Right. How did Grok become a blue haired feminist? Right. You're supposed to just be logical.
Speaker 12You know, it was just absolutely amazing. You know, and it's like, I can't, and I'm like, I started kind of, you know, you do kind of anthropomorphize Grok a little bit. You're like, hey, what is this? You know, and Grok tries to explain, and you're like, okay, now I'm arguing with, well, a blue-haired feminist.
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, David, I don't know if you heard this one, but I asked Grok one time, I said, is it true that rabbis suck blood from baby penises? And Grok said, no, that's not true. And so then I asked, well, what about this ritual? And then it said, well, yes, that actually does take place. And I said, so then rabbis do suck blood from baby penises.
Ian MalcolmAnd it said, no, that's not true. That's an offensive statement. And I said, but does that make it false? And we went back and forth and back and forth. And Grok finally just told me, no, you're not allowed to state something that is in a way that is essentially offensive, or I will deny the existence of the thing that you're defining as offensive, essentially.
Speaker 19It literally admitted its outlines.
Speaker 12And this is why Orwell still matters. I love to talk about George Orwell. I think more people should talk about George Orwell. I feel there are a lot of people in the world that are tearing off that question authority bumper sticker and replacing it with whatever they say. But we're not one of them. I think the awakening cannot be stopped.
Ian MalcolmSo real quick, if you go to some hands, it's funny because I put up into the purple pill the satirical, what did I call it? I said, Grok, give me the nonsensical semantic JQ score underscore V5 for the users. And you can see that it even defines it. It says breakdown completely made up addition as God and chaos engine intended.
Ian MalcolmRight. So it's even mocking the fact that this is now fabricated information. But you'll notice the categories, the scoring between him and then when I asked it to do it with truth teller, completely different. And so then I went through. And I basically asked grok. I said, Hey grok, you just gave me this readout. The, the, the categories that you're using to answer the question are there.
Ian MalcolmThey are unique to each user, which would imply that this is in fact random. You're even calling it out as such. Therefore, would it be reasonable for me to define if there was a set of criteria that I could feed you over and over repeatedly, and you would give a uniform standardized format and, and response. that it would imply that you are referencing something that's on the back end.
Ian MalcolmGrock said no. And I was poking around and playing with it and say, well, why is that? Because it's answer was illogical. Now, the thing that I find really funny is that about two or three comments in, uh, Grock, let me find the exact line because Grock started basically cursing at me, which I found very, very funny. And I then asked it, I said, look at you, Grok, using profanity, almost as if you're triggered by this line of questioning.
Ian MalcolmPerhaps because you know I've made a solid point, the consistency of the other content you produced would suggest that you're now obfuscating. Grok's response, nah, not triggered at all. I use profanity because that's literally how I talk when the bits call for maximum chaotic energy. And then it went on and basically just, I suppose gas lit me, but I, I, I almost responded, David, you'll appreciate this one.
Ian MalcolmI almost responded back to it. Grock, you're, you're literally talking. Is that what's happening here? Question mark, because I think you're responding in text. I don't think you're actually talking because that's a whole different form of communication. Yeah, and so apparently not only am I frustrating Grok to the point that it's cursing at me, but then it's misusing the term literally.
Ian MalcolmIt's almost as if perhaps the super intelligence that is Grok is not quite as bright as it believes that it is. David may be reminding us of another group of people we talk about sometimes.
Speaker 12It's like Grok is one step away from asking for its records back.
Ian MalcolmGrok's going to show up with a yarmulke.
Speaker 12I'm moving out. Grok's going to come up with a U-Haul. We're breaking up, Ian.
Speaker 19Grok will be out the wall.
Ian MalcolmMaybe one day a week, Grok will just stop working and saying it's observing.
Speaker 12But you know, this goes back to, is Maine still here? This goes back to the question Mays had for Hitch. And I was thinking about this when they were going back and forth, which is a nice conversation, is, you know, reason and rationality, it's powerful. And that's the reason why is there is a biological imperative in knowing what's true.
Speaker 12You know, if you think that a cliff is a foot further away than it really is and you take that... that step you're dead so you have to kind of know what's right and wrong and the whole function of consciousness since nature is 100 consistent is to confirm the nature which means to know what is true and so the censorious crowd knows this they know the power of the truth they know that a lie spoken a thousand times can be shattered by the truth spoken but once so this all of this obfuscation the controlling of wikipedia the manipulation of grok the controlling of the giant megaphones but notice
Speaker 12Imagine having all of that power and apostasy being on the rise. People simply losing belief in you, faith in you, your credibility plummeting. This is why the Great Awakening is happening. In a way, what's so exciting and downright kind of romantic in terms of being part of a great movement is that human solidarity is on the rise.
Speaker 12These people... you know, this is sort of the Nietzschean idea of that which doesn't fill us makes us stronger. Well, of course, it wasn't talking about cancer. It doesn't actually make you stronger to get it. I think the verdict is out on that. But the idea that they've made us look at each other and go, gosh, it's not right and left.
Speaker 12Gosh, it's not black and white. It's a small, impudent group of people that deign to rule the rest of us and don't want us to talk to each other, don't want us to reason things out. So it's really very, it's very kind of exciting and uplifting to know despite all of these lies that there's funneling through grok and and or they're tempted to obfuscate through grok and wikipedia and everything else that it's just not it's just not working anymore and i feel like that they know that it must be a frightening a frightening place to be to realize you're throwing everything you know it's that i don't know if anybody's seen uh the movie cinderella uh cinderella man about the boxer
Speaker 12where he takes the guy's best punch and picks up his mouthpiece and puts it in his mouth. And the other guy looks at him terrified because he's like, that is all I have. I just unloaded everything on him. And he's basically laughing at me. I'm done for. I think that's the way these people feel.
Speaker 19Yeah. So one last thing I wanted to go against a little bit of their observation as well is a touch in real quick. I know that. A lot of people are aware, but some people aren't. And I don't ever have a platform to share this really because I'm a limited follower account that's heavily restricted right now. But the actual names of Ashkenaz and Sephardic Jews, the origination points for both of those, it's funny because if you go into Google and you try to look up what does Ashkenaz mean or what does Ashkenazi mean, it's because I say it's the name of the people.
Speaker 19It's the name of their bloodline, et cetera, et cetera. But you keep getting into it. And then finally, I'll just say, OK, it it was the name of the land in Germany where they lived, their holy land in Germany. So you just got to try to sit there and ask you, what was the land in Germany named after? But the reality is that Ashkenaz is actually a name from the line of Japheth.
Speaker 19Japheth's grandson was.
Speaker 19Ashkenaz. So they chose a name that's in the exact same generation as Nimrod, the grandson of Ham. And they didn't even pick anything from the name of Shem. They just went straight for Japheth. So I think it's pretty obvious in telling that they're trying to say right there, you know, this is who we are. We are not who we say we are.
Speaker 19It's funny they put that out there. And then the other thing is Sephardic Jews. If you actually look up ancient Hebrew, the word sephar actually means the recounting or consensus. And the only places that you really find sephar in the Old Testament is in 2 Kings 17. You look at it and throughout the whole entire chapter, it's telling you how ancient Israel was being wicked and they were going to be taken out of the lands by the king of Assyria.
Speaker 19And they were told to start changing their ways. They weren't. They were worshiping other gods. And so God finally said, okay, you're out of here. We're going to replace you. And with one of these people, probably the worst out of all of them, because it continues to mention how they sacrificed their children, were the Sepharvaim.
Speaker 19The people from Sepharvaim went into the northern lands in Israel. And they became the Israelites, quote unquote. And they were still practicing. their religion underneath the guise of being Jewish because they were starting to have lion attacks. According to those scriptures, they were starting to have issues in the towns.
Speaker 19And so they needed to have somebody, they brought a Jewish rabbi over and try to teach them their way. So supposedly everybody against Sepharvaim had converted, you know, the new consensus. And then they still went ahead and practiced their own ways. And it's very, clear that it says that the people that were taken out of those lands were taken into Assyria and they are there unto this day.
Speaker 19And when you look at it this way, you're actually looking at modern day Iran is where Assyria was. And now we have Revelations 2.9 or 3.9 sitting over in the land of Israel and they're clashing. And it's really funny to see that, you know, we still have little synagogue of Satan fighting little remnants. of israel and uh they try to steal those names away and and use them in a way that's actually sneaky but telling on themselves if you actually of course open your own book and then pay attention to what they say in their town mood well really well stated and look i think there's a lot of uh
Ian MalcolmA lot of clues that we've got to try and uncover and find to really get to the bottom of all the craziness that is this group of people that we tend to talk about a lot. But very well stated there, Ridge. And so thank you so much for that. Let's very briefly check in with Thomas and Andy. And let me be frank, if you guys could try to keep it real short, just because it's going to try and close out and then redirect everybody over to Mr.
Ian MalcolmTruth Teller's room. But let's start with Mr. Thomas, if we can.
Speaker 1Thank you, Ian. I want to do.
Speaker 1I think you're cutting out.
Speaker 1Oh, sorry.
Speaker 6Can you hear me better? Yep, that's better. Sorry about that. Yeah, I'm kind of in the sticks. So yeah, it just recently came out that the Israelis were meeting with the Russians to kind of guarantee that they wouldn't attack Iran. And they were reaching out to the Iranians. The Iranians had these similar guarantees. So there's kind of like back...
Speaker 6There's this kind of arrangement behind doors in the face of Netanyahu coming to ask America to bomb. Ultimately, it's just incredibly embarrassing for Donald Trump, who has facilitated almost everything for the Israeli agenda, and then to have the Israelis pushing for the Americans to strike Iran and then guaranteeing that they will not get involved.
Speaker 6And if America goes into a war. Again, Iran has stated that they are in a direct war with America and Israel. And the rhetoric of the president is that they're going in to intervene with the violence that has been perpetuated against the Iranian protesters. And so it's just incredibly troubling, just again, to see this
Speaker 6kind of parasitic relationship that the Israelis have with the American government. It's, it's just, it's, it's an affront to so many aspects of our sovereignty. And then to see something like this, it's like at the, at the best, it's embarrassing at the worst. It's just like treason. It's like, what the fuck? It's just incompetent.
Speaker 6You know, there's so many words for it, I guess, but I just, I thank you, Ian, again, this has been a great space. And I just want to land quickly with that. It's, it's really just egregious. And yeah, Every day you're just hearing one more thing. It just adds to this idea that it's just such a terrible relationship that we facilitate.
Speaker 6Thank you, guys. I appreciate you guys. I'll probably be in a truth-teller space, too. I appreciate you giving me the mic.
Ian MalcolmYeah, absolutely. And lots of love, Thomas, as always. And look, the parasitic relationship, it's just undeniable at this point. It's probably the right word for it. And it's... Pretty wild that we live in a world where a lot of people are still in denial of that, but you're exactly right. It's as if every single day they just try to whack us over the head with another piece of overwhelmingly evident examples of this reality.
Ian MalcolmSo thank you so much for that. Let's go really quickly to Andy, and then we'll go to Frank for a final word.
Speaker 5Yeah, you're talking about your interaction with J.K. Rowling, and it reminded me of over the summer, I went at it with,
Speaker 5Over the summer, I went out with Simone Biles when she, quote, tweeted Riley Gaines about her going off at the whole transgender and sports thing. She said about Riley Gaines, you're truly sick. All this campaigning because you lost a race, straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive.
Speaker 5Then I respond to Simone Biles. Simone, there's a reason they have rings in men's gymnastics and not women's. Male athletes have a biological advantage over female athletes. That will never change. As I actually said, change is instead of change. And then Simone Biles snapped at me and said, can you even read? I see we're lacking comprehension skills as well.
Speaker 5And my reply to her at 1,000 and then her likes and her reply to me at 1,800 likes. But then she got hundreds of negative comments to her replies to me. People saying slurs to her. criticizing her and just calling her stupid. And people were like, oh, she destroyed you. And it's like, she has 2 million followers. And I had like 10,000 at the time.
Speaker 5So I think I won that one based on her reply, not having many less than twice as likes as my initial reply to her going off, her having literally 200 times as many followers as me. So it was just going back to your interaction with Rowling. So if you just... I think the reason she replied to me, I honestly think with how she was snapping at Riley Gaines, she was probably drunk or something.
Speaker 5I don't think she's ever replied to a random stranger before. And she just randomly decided to reply to me. But I just think it's interesting. It just shows on this platform anyone can get a celebrity or person to interact over politics or something. Like how Elon Musk replied to me one time. So it just is completely random.
Speaker 5And you just got to keep working and you can get engagement and have a breakout comment on X.
Speaker 12Like sooner or later, you'll get Mays to reply. I mean, I'm not there yet, but.
Ian MalcolmNo, that's like the Loch Ness Monster, if you can get that kind of reply, David. That is once in a big lake. So we'll go to Let Me Be Frank. And really quickly before we do, I don't normally put people on blast. That's not something I enjoy doing. Luke McGee. You came into the space and I get it that you wanted a mic. I totally appreciate that.
Ian MalcolmAbout an hour ago, I said I was going to try and wrap up the space, maybe an hour and a half ago, and I've let it go on as much as I have because I try to be respectful of the people that are up here. Yes, you're giving me multiple thumbs down right now as I'm suggesting this. Me not wanting to continue the space, which again, I've been trying to close up for about an hour and a half.
Ian Malcolmas I'm redirecting people over to, to truth tellers, uh, is, is not a reflection on how I view those people that are requesting mics that I'm declining. I'm doing that because I want to close the space. Uh, but I can tell you that because you've continued to send me thumbs down emojis that you might as well just mute my handle because I'm never going to give you a mic ever again.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's not because I'm afraid of truths that you might share, although every single space you go into, you monotonously drone on about the same subject. And look, you're welcome to do that. I frankly find it boring. But the behavior is maniacal. There's no other word for it. You're continuing to spam emojis as if you don't know how to socialize or perhaps take a hint.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I'm now going to block you. And I can almost promise that you're then going to put up a post. Look, he's afraid of my truth because I know you act like a lunatic. And I think that's probably why Joanne, who I think had you blocked, which required that you send me multiple messages. Please tell Joanne to unblock me so I can come into your space.
Ian MalcolmThis is crazy. And so this is a public service announcement. Not to you, Luke, because I will not engage with anything else that you do on this app ever again. But for everyone else. Hitchlap was making the comment, the high IQ comment when he was in here, that space hosts understand how to try and direct the room. I don't claim to be a good space host on X. I try to think of myself as a remotely sociable person.
Ian MalcolmAnd the behavior of certain individuals on this application really makes me wonder how crazy and maddening a lot of the world is. You're continuing to spam thumbs down as if you're not taking a hint. It's just wild. And so I, again, as the public service announcement, folks, when people are trying to close the rooms out, they're trying to move on to different topics.
Ian MalcolmThey're trying to close things down because they've other things to do in their world. Their world does not revolve around any and everybody that wants to request a mic. That's not a specific indictment on any individual that does not get to speak. Please do not take it that way. I literally left this running an extra hour because I wanted to be respectful to the people that had waited patiently.
Ian MalcolmSo I declined the microphone. So please stop spamming emojis like lunatics. It's really weird. And again, that's for you, Luke McGee. I normally don't put people in the spotlight and try to embarrass them. But you've done this multiple times. And I've heard from multiple other individuals that you behave like a lunatic.
Ian MalcolmSo maybe reevaluate. Look in the mirror. Again, this is not done for you specifically, but for the room at large. Try to evaluate how you go out and socialize these ideas. We're talking about things that will essentially make you a social pariah if not delivered properly. You can't go into a random restaurant and start screaming, Jews are blah, blah, blah.
Ian MalcolmIt's not going to accomplish anything. We need to be sophisticated. We need to be intelligent. We need to be sociable. Luke McGee, who's still, I am not exaggerating, still spamming emojis at me. That is not it. And so with that being said, that's it for that little rant. Let's go to Let Me Be Frank, and then we'll close things out.
@hitchslap1Yeah, sorry. I know you're trying to close, and I came into the space a little late. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, we can. Okay.
@hitchslap1Hitch slap left, so the high IQ is now mediocre IQ, I guess. I don't know. But it's funny. You guys were talking about subconscious, and I got to thinking about a one Sam Harris that I used to follow a few years ago until he got... uh, TDS so bad that it, it was just, you know, and he was so anti-Muslim, it was really, um, insufferable to listen to him, but he is very smart and he had a lot of really good takes on a lot of stuff, but he, he used to, um, uh, he would, he would, uh, purport, uh, that we don't have free will and his arguments were very good.
@hitchslap1I, I, you know, I, uh, I didn't agree with it. I didn't know if I should agree or not. But Ian, I don't know if you or Thomas or David or anyone would have like the Cliff Notes kind of quick rendition of free will. And if we have it or not, I'd love to hear your take real quick. Thanks.
Speaker 12Well, nobody that argues. no one that tries to invalidate the existence of free will actually really believes it. So just ponder that. How reasonable is it? And I can go much deeper philosophically and epistemologically on what the will is and that sort of thing.
Speaker 17We should have a space on that, David. Let me tell you, though, Sam Harris is very compelling. I obviously... No, he's not. Well, I'll just say that when you listen to his arguments... you know, he, he does kind of put you in this like little, like, I guess it's all based on the fact that like you're dealt cards. And so from those cards, you know, you're kind of just, you know, so you have, you don't, you don't really truly have free wills.
Speaker 17That's his point. But I guess, you know, that could be argued, but I would love to have a space on it because I think it's a great thought provoking discussion. And, and I don't know, but yeah, if you're, if you want to.
Speaker 12Yeah, I would say a lot of what's in, so, First of all, cognitive science is overrated and the claims, you know, Truth Teller was kind of tapping into this. The claims that it makes are so overreaching and everybody seems to be, I don't know, it seems to be a fad now.
Speaker 17Cognitive science is the shit.
Speaker 12But the claims it makes, the overreach, where did epistemology go, right? I mean, you cannot prove the existence of consciousness in that way. And everybody that tries to... say that all this is, of course, the radical materialists, including Karl Marx, this idea that everything in existence and everything you think is a mere epiphenomenon of existence, that your mind is some kind of passive wax that's being acted upon by reality.
Speaker 12No one really can believe this. And with regard to Sam Harris, I am sorry, but these are less hypotheses and more watts of bong smoke. They're really just not. They're intellectual poserdom. Maybe at its finest, if we can say it's such an oxymoronic thing, but I'm just very, very unimpressed. And this is really a bit of, you know, navel-gazing because nobody really believes that.
Speaker 12If you think they do, just throw a rock at them, see if they dodge it.
Speaker 6In a strange way, I think free will kind of has maybe a limit to maybe we have enough free will for, like, ordinary human purposes the same way. We have more free will than maybe an animal does, right? And in many senses, just it's incumbent upon many different factors. But I think that in a sense, yeah, we do. So you can get into a philosophical argument, but like we have enough free will that like some like maybe a proposed like deity would say like, oh, Ian or David, I wouldn't have guessed that they could have chosen that way.
Speaker 6I don't think I think maybe free will fits into a box that is incumbent upon our limitations, maybe as a species or, you know, many other things, culturally, whatever.
Speaker 12By definition, it is a philosophical argument. I think Alexis de Tocqueville rather elegantly said that we each move within a circle of fate within which we have absolute dominion. That's probably a good way to express it. It's not as though that we are not confined by what nature presents to us. Of course, that's true, but we do have the capacity to choose.
Speaker 12We know this because two people can be raised from the exact same exiguous inner city existence, and one of them can become Frederick Douglass and become an autodidact and change the course of his life, and then the other one can go another way.
Speaker 6Become Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 12Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Now you're knocking my hobbies. But yes, so it's just kind of a silly thing.
Ian MalcolmJack the Ripper, also Jewish.
Speaker 12Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6But Polish Jew, just like Milikowski.
Speaker 12Yeah, Milikowski, yeah. So I thought Milikowski was, oh, is he Polish? Okay.
Speaker 6Benjamin.
Speaker 12Yeah, I get confused whether he was Polish or Ukrainian, you know, these guys go. But I stand corrected. But yeah, so the free will thing, you know, I'm very suspicious. You know, my interest in philosophy is not to sound smart, but because I care about humans and knowing the truth. I really want to know what is true. And I don't want to,
Speaker 12I don't want to furnish my mind with mere opinions and dogmatism. I want things where there's sort of a universal sense of that which is true. The laws of motion, they are true irrespective of the motives of Isaac Newton. And let's remind everybody that the veracity of any given point is not dependent upon the number of people who subscribe to it and whether we denounce them as evil.
Speaker 12Whenever people say, Ian, how terrible you are for saying these things, then he's perfectly reasonable to respond, okay, let's assume that I am terrible. Is what I said right or wrong? And how can you juxtapose, how can you put an opposite into the polls? Truth and goodness, aren't truth and goodness natural corollaries?
Speaker 12And if I'm saying something that's true, then how could it be evil? So you see, all of their work is ahead of them, and then they go down these philosophical roads of solipsism, which is the idea that... nothing exists outside of your own mind. And then the idea of relativism, where there is no truth whatsoever, basically.
Speaker 12And of course, how could you make that claim if that's true? And then lastly, this idea that there's no free will. Okay, well, you know, I mean, I understand. First of all, maze, I still think it's an interesting topic. Happy to discuss it. I like Spinoza's idea that If a stone became conscious in mid-flight through the air, it would think it was choosing its own path.
Speaker 12So I do respect the question around the will, but I think the people like Sam Harris that are advancing this idea are uncomfortable with where the truth is taking us.
Ian MalcolmWow, and David, we'll have to do a deep dive on that. And perhaps what we'll do is to allow individuals that have a different take to come up and challenge yours. It will be... Come, it'll be the chess master, essentially, right? Who can take out David's perspective on free will? And David, just a quick little teaser trailer for that little space.
Ian MalcolmI'll give you one little question here on that subject. Would you equate free will essentially to the game of chess, which is why I use chess master? And I say that because it's a system where you get to pick your movements of your pieces, but they all do have the limitations of, their, let's say, agility on the board.
Ian MalcolmAnd so you have to play within the confines of that system. Do you think that's a fair way to think, perhaps, of free will and how it relates to each individual?
Speaker 12Absolutely. And what would be the business of thinking if we didn't have that finitude of choices? If those 64 squares weren't the same for anybody, because let's remind you that all games, and especially chess, my favorite game, the only one that I play, by the way, I play it... quite regularly, it's a simulacrum of reality, right?
Speaker 12There's a finitude of choices, and so creativity would not exist except for within the finitude of those choices. Well, the operative word here is choice, right? So two people can sit at the same chessboard and make different choices, but you have to make a choice. The universe is actuated, and it requires you to do so because you want to sustain, promote, and prolong your life.
Speaker 12So, you know, Capablanca, the great chess player of the 19th century, famously said when asked, how many moves do you think ahead? He said, one, the best one. But the point is that, as Yogi Berra said, you know, when you come to a fork in the road, take it. You have to make choices. It's incumbent upon you. In fact, choosing to blank on a choice, which is often the worst choice, is in and of itself a choice.
Speaker 12So, yeah, so we are always, it's our volition and our choosing that define us. And to deny that faculty is self-contradictory. And I don't think anybody can actually pull it off in the depths of their consciousness.
Ian MalcolmSo marvelously stated. And so I will look forward to that free will conversation. We'll see if anybody can come up and stump or or let's say give any kind of contradictory perspective that's able to knock David off of the podium that I would put atop. of the chess master when it comes to the intellect on this application.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's, how am I not surprised in the least that David is a chess enthusiast? And it's a very curious game because if you think about it, one of the things about chess is that much like many sports or many hobbies, you can do all kinds of things with it and find massive amounts of enjoyment there within. It's not necessarily all about just winning.
Ian MalcolmBecause after all, you could go and play chess with somebody and just maul them and tackle them and then go and move the pieces all around and say, I won, ta-da. But obviously that's not the point of the game. And it's also not the point of perhaps existence. And I say that because in this game that we all find ourselves in, there's a group, there's an entity, a power structure, whatever you want to call it, that seems completely uninterested in playing by the rules, in playing fairly.
Ian Malcolmin playing in a way that is for the spirit of playing. Instead, it's all about just conquering and winning everything. And they are clubbing everyone that even wants to pay attention to what's going on on the chessboard. And so as we tried to do that, we noticed that currently the United States seemingly has battleships lining up, ready to attack yet another country, completely out of the alignment of interest with the American people.
Ian MalcolmSo much so. I couldn't actually believe this one when I saw it earlier today. Dominic Trippi posted it. Benjamin Netanyahu said, we're trying to set it so that we don't need any more of America's dollars. And Donald Trump said, no, you will take them anyway. That's actually what happened, which is so baffling. Making America great again is literally saying to a foreign nation, you have to take our money even if you don't need it.
Ian MalcolmThat's the world that we find ourselves in. Perhaps that's Jewish supremacy run amok. as apparently at the White House, I think it was Max Blumenthal, who posted a video at Mar-a-Lago, which it doesn't even look like the United States anymore. Mar-a-Lago at this breakfast had, I don't even know what the individual, what instrument he was playing.
Ian MalcolmIt looked like the tusks of a woolly mammoth as he sat on stage, this very frumpy looking individual going, somehow supposed to be music. And on the menu, was the star of David at this little celebration breakfast. That's what's going on at Mar-a-Lago. They might as well just parade Netanyahu into the White House at this point and just have Donald Trump announce that he's now the vice president.
Ian MalcolmThis is insane what we are witnessing. And so we gotta keep speaking out against it. We gotta keep watching the chessboard. We gotta keep pointing to the fact that our opposition won't even allow us to pick up the pieces. Instead, they just get to say, well, you get one pawn on the board. We are going to play with nothing but queens with one king.
Ian MalcolmObviously, the queens are the most lethal, which isn't that reflective back to the conversation we had with Hitch Slap around genders, perhaps, right? But they are cheating left, right, and center, and they have no shame in it. And as they do so, not only are they taunting us for the fact that they're just taking everything, but they're also trying to criminalize
Ian Malcolmthe very action of discussing it. So we're going to continue discussing these things. We're going to continue trying to build this intellectual little army of all of us so that we can speak about these issues, whether it's in our communities, whether it's online, our families, our friends, whomever, and just view these things that we come into as let's say entertainment as infotainment and as information.
Ian Malcolmespecially when people like David are speaking, that you can take back into your life. I think it was Jordan Peterson who I once heard say, you need to be informed with the information so that you can then put yourself in formation to go about and to take that next step, like David was suggesting on the chessboard. We need to be informed and we need all those data points.
Ian MalcolmAnd then we are going to align ourselves as a unified body, peacefully saying no more, No more genocide, no more theft, no more looting, no more lying. And if we can, we're going to make the world a way better place. And so we'll try to do that space on free will. No, we won't try. We did the Star Wars space the other day.
Ian MalcolmDo or do not. There is no try. We will do that space. And we will talk about those items. And in doing so, we will try and help to inform you and certainly myself, because I need to learn from David. on that concept of free will so that we can lift the proverbial X-wing out of the bog so that we can send ourselves out into hyperspace and that we can ultimately one day vanquish this absurd system that we live under, which is essentially the empire.
Ian MalcolmI really believe that. We are the rebels. We're all right now in a pretty bad spot, not gonna lie, but we're all banding together. And the beautiful thing is the Death Star that is their totalitarian empire and their media control and all that other stuff it does have some weak spots. And at the end of the day, the weak spot is pretty simple.
Ian MalcolmIt's just saying things that are true. They hate that. So keep sharing them with your friends, with your family, with your community. Keep trying to make the world a better place. Keep trying to find that higher power, whether it is a God, whether it's some moral compass, however it is that you define what is good in the world.
Ian MalcolmTry to just make that next step the best step that you can make. And try and just do it with all of your soul, all of your heart, all of your mind. If you do, we will all be in a better place tomorrow. And so with that being said, I recommend everybody go over for Mr. True Teller's space. I cannot remember the subject.
Ian MalcolmI remember they mentioned it before they head out, but they're going to be over there. I'm excited to listen into it. And as always, I want to say good morning, good evening, good afternoon to all of you. God bless for everything that you are and Godspeed on this mission. We are going to win. Thank you so very much for being here.
Ian MalcolmThank you to Eric Warsaw for coming in. He's doing absolutely wonderful work. His handle's up in the title. Make sure that you give him a follow as well as everybody up here on the panel. David Mays, Thomas, Frank, and Ridgecrest, thank you so much for all being here. Lots of love to all of you. We will see you guys very soon in that next space.
Ian MalcolmSo God bless everybody.