Lt Col Anthony Aguilar LIVE! Open Q&A

0:39Speaker 1Yo yo yo mister Ian Malcolm!↗

0:44Ian MalcolmWell, how is it going, Wolf? Excited to, get all this kicked off. We'll, give it a second for Mr. Eric to hop in here. There he is. we'll get him up here as co-host, and then we'll get, the rest of the panel here situated as we await our special guest. both, I suppose, famed for their, bravery, kind of heroism, as well as some of their efforts in uncovering and exposing, some- Some, let's say,↗

1:15Ian Malcolmless than righteous efforts on behalf of US government, who is now going to be, there we go, perfect, now going to be running, for Congress, and so very excited to, get to speak with them, to learn their story, to share that with the masses, to do so with Mr. Eric Warsaw, who, Eric, you should have a co-host invite, I also sent you a speaker, request if you wanna do it that way as well. and I know we've got Miss Joanne up here, Well with us. So really excited for, for this wonderful panel, for this wonderful space, this wonderful opportunity, Anthony, to get to connect with you, and to have you share your story, both past, present, and future. for what it's worth, as we're getting this set up, we're having the panel come in here. for those listening, if you wouldn't mind, please feel free to share out the space. feel free to send it via text, send it to your wall, send it any which way↗

2:13Ian Malcolmand I hope for everybody that is listening that the audio comes in properly, 'cause I know the last couple spaces that we've been hosting, we've certainly been seeing some glitches on that front, though I'm seeing a hundred. so hopefully that's all working a-okay for everybody. You sound↗

2:27Speaker 1good, you sound good. I don't wanna say hi to Eric. What's up, Eric? Of course. How you doing? It's good↗

2:32@warsawerikto see you. What's going on, everybody?↗

2:34Speaker 1Another day, you know, another day.↗

2:38Ian MalcolmAnd, Eric, I just fired over a co-host invite for you if you wanna pick that up. If not, no worries. And, oh, there we go. I was gonna say I know we got Mr. Wolf in here if, if unable to, to run that piece of the ship. and so lots and lots of love to him, to Sat Chaser, to Tom. God for so many wonderful individuals already in this room with us, and, and of course, we also have our esteemed guests, which I'm gonna be very excited to introduce here in↗

3:07Ian MalcolmI just wanted to thank, with absolute humility, I wanted to thank Eric for helping to personally put this together, for helping him, a-and for thanking him, for connecting these dots, I should say, for bringing together this wonderful conversation. I'm extremely humbled to have him here with us, to have him on X in these spaces. it's an individual that we've done a couple different rooms with, who just a little while back was getting millions and millions and millions of impressions, if I'm not mistaken, on On a day-to-day basis, on TikTok, before, of course, it was acquired by the Ellison's, Larry in particular, and Oracle, and since had his account completely locked over there, shut down, 'cause apparently you can't talk about Zionism, Jews, or, even Epstein now on, on TikTok. And so just while the degree of suppression that we're living amidst, and I say that just because I believe that we're gonna be seeing a lot more of him, in the coming weeks, months here on X, I know he Just got set up, over with, Upscroll, and so I'm sure he can talk about that momentarily as well. but I just want to thank again everybody that's in this room. I want to thank our special guest, Mr. Aguilar. It's an absolute pleasure to have you in here. I want to thank again Eric for helping to set this up. And so what we'll be doing is, first and foremost, we'll turn things over to Eric to kind of set any additional pieces of the stage. And then what we're gonna do is The past, I know he's been in the public spotlight here, maybe the past year, but would be curious going back even further, than that, right? What led him to that point that all of a sudden he was in the public spotlight? and then we'll come to the present where we're gonna talk about what he's doing in the moment to try and get himself into the halls of Congress so he can make a significant difference for the lives of every single American that's out here and bring the needed attention to the types of topics that we talk about in these spaces, which at the It is the personification of patriotism, right? This is a man who's out there on the front lines trying to make a difference, and so absolutely God love him for that. So we'll get to Mr. Aguilar in just a second. Before we do, again, let's check in with, Mr. Eric to further set the stage, and a big, shout out as well to Mr. Adam Media, such an absolute pleasure to have you in here, my friend, another immense patriot, in this movement. I also see Mr. Truth Teller↗

5:37Ian Malcolmand so lots of love to anybody and everybody that's in the room. Again, please share it out. If you wanna come up, certainly request the mic. And what we'll probably do is about an hour Q&A that will be largely led by Eric with Mr. Aguilar. What we'll then do is open it to a Q&A for anybody and everybody that's in here. So feel free, to throw your name into that queue, and we'll have everybody cycle through once they go through this initial interview. and so with that, Mr. Eric, I'll, I↗

6:07Ian MalcolmMr. Aguilar.↗

6:09@warsawerikappreciate you very much, my friend. Alright, everybody hit the follow button on everybody up at the top of the panel and everybody all around you, too. this is, very exciting to have Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Aguilar up here. He was military special forces and, being overseas, he learned the hard- he, he had his eyes open the hard way.↗

6:32@warsawerikso, I mean- it's a, it's an absolute privilege to have him up here, and to hear his story is absolutely amazing, and he just recently decided to run for Congress too. So that is, that is awesome. I'm very happy you did that, Anthony. and yeah, we'll be going into all of that soon. I'm gonna be sharing the spaces with a, a bunch of people too while we're doing all this. And, guys, when we start doing like, you know, Q&A and all that sort of stuff, remember to keep it like one question↗

7:03@warsawerikAnd, Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Aguilar, the microphone is yours, a-any way you wanna start off, my friend?↗

7:12Speaker 2Well, hello everybody, and thank you for, the platform and, and inviting me on. I'm truly honored to, to share the time with everybody. And a lot of familiar faces. I just returned from Minneapolis, just got off a plane a, a few hours ago, so I was, I, I took a quick flight up there to- to attend a vigil that was held for↗

7:37Speaker 2Alex Pretty, and then we also had a, a press conference with five of the news media outlets in, in Minnesota, in the Minneapolis area, where there were veterans, myself, Josie Gilbo, Greg Stoker, Lavish,↗

7:57Speaker 2Colleen Rolle, who was a, an FBI intel analyst and lawyer who was a whistleblower, and we just provided our perspectives on the imperial boomerang and what we are seeing on, on our streets with federal agencies, is not coincidence, it isn't a mistake, it isn't,↗

8:19Speaker 2it isn't something that we, we, we could have not prevented. so we were there to just kind of inform people what our perspectives were from, from our various backgrounds. So that was a great trip. It was very moving to be at the vigil, there on Nicollet Street and, and see where, where Alex was killed. So that was touching, especially if you when you're, when you're on an American street here in the United States and you're, you're seeing someone that was killed in that way, it, it- It's impossible to not feel moved, especially for, you know, what the type of person he was as a↗

8:58Speaker 2ICU nurse in the VA and, you know, just a caring, a caring person all around. So, very, emotionally draining but very productive trip. And then tomorrow I'm heading to DC to participate in the In the rally up in DC, so busy week, but very happy that I can be here with everyone today. And yeah, as Eric said in introducing me, I spent twenty-five years in the Army. in that time, as a Special Forces officer, Green Beret, and deployments all over the world, Tajikistan, Iraq,↗

9:36Speaker 2Syria, Afghanistan, Jordan, Yemen, Somalia. all over Southeast Asia, the Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, really saw quite a bit in the world and, and, and learned and experienced a lot of things firsthand that have now really opened up my eyes to introspection and reflection now that I've retired. what I saw in Gaza kind of ripped a-ripped the veil off of a lot of↗

10:09Speaker 2Ideologies or, or, ideals that I presumed in our government and in our military that, I've now been really deeply reflecting on, especially with the global war on terror, the, the wars that we continue to fight, the wars that we are fighting now, the wars that we are starting, and how the global war on terror and the, the, the effects to us domestically, but also in foreign policy. Have in, in, in my true assessment, have, have come home to haunt us. This is, this is the imperial boomerang of,↗

10:48Speaker 2military industrialization at such a, a high end, the, the equipping of our domestic law enforcement militarized more and more every day, the Moving away from our own training and doctrine to, to, adopting those of, of other security forces within their countries, such as the IDF with, with ICE. So a lot of things that have really↗

11:18Speaker 2caused me great reflection over the last, m- ten months or so. You know, I just retired in March, so I haven't even been out, been out of the army a year. So a lot of reflection. On my service in the military, the, the wars that I have fought in, the conflicts and operations that I have been deployed in, and it's, it's sometimes, it's sometimes scary to have to look at something that you dedicated yourself to for twenty-five years of your life, that you now look back on and question and, and have deep questions, and↗

11:54Speaker 2to be honest, that's really what's driving me to want to run, for Congress. I don't plan, nor do I desire to be a career politician, but I do feel that we need fresh voices, I wouldn't necessarily call it a reset, but we need, we need a changing of the guard, a changing of, of, of people and generations in our Congress. We don't need seventy-five, eighty, eighty-five year old congressmen, we don't need↗

12:28Speaker 2Members of Congress that, that take money from political action committees, whether it's not, you know, not just APAC, but the mega lobbies, the super PACs, the military-industrial complex, we have to break that because if we don't, we'll continue on the path that we're on, where we are fighting wars for profit, fighting wars of colonialism, fighting wars that are largely driven by the industrial, military-industrial complex. And I've lived through it, and I've witnessed it, and have come to↗

12:59Speaker 2kind of a character arc 180 as to what I believed and felt through my career, and so that's, that's kind of where I am now in why I'm running for Congress, as I said, and my experience in Gaza, I kind of, I, I mentioned that, how that kind of ripped the veil off, but in Gaza, the- The military operations conducted in Gaza where forced displacement,↗

13:28Speaker 2starvation, disease, the accumulating effects of which with the intent is a genocide, and that the United States, in not only policy but money, our tax dollars, end policy and impunity is a part of that, intertwined, not separate. Not a byproduct, but part of it, really gave me great pause to, to ask hard questions of myself and, what our government is really doing. What, what is our overall objective in Gaza? And I'll, I'll tell ya, it's not to bring about peace, a lasting peace, or a representative government for the people of Palestine and the Palestinian people. It is Project Sunrise. And the realization and execution of a hundred and twelve billion dollar real estate plan, we've now seen that clearly in how it's been laid out. We've seen that clearly with the board of peace and how that's being assembled and arrayed and what its objectives will be.↗

14:34Speaker 2And I think that the world is starting to see things much more clear, and I think it's important for people that have the experience, that have, that have seen it to speak out regardless of the risks. I know there's great risk in me speaking out, personally, professionally, financially, so many risks, but it's risk that has to be taken because I am a patriot and I do love my country and I do love my fellow,↗

15:06Speaker 2countrymen and women, and I think that our nation, we- We can, w-we should be better than this in terms of where we are right now as a nation, and I think regardless of where anyone may sit politically, left or right, or what their thoughts on ICE as an agency or not, in that, I think anyone could say that this is, this isn't a path that is sustainable for our country. So that's really what's driving me to continue to speak out as much as I am. I'm not doing it for,↗

15:42Speaker 2For likes or for platforming, I'm not monetized, I'm not sponsored, I don't get paid. I do this all on my own time, on my own dime, because I, I truly do care about the direction of our country. I care about all of you, I care about the future for my children, and none of that is, is to me, the, all of the risks are worth it when you, when you stack up, what it's for. It's, you know, for us as a country. So That's kind of my, my little intro bit there, and I am absolutely open to questions ranging from anything really, from ICE, Gaza, the military, Congress, DC, anything really. So, over to you, Eric.↗

16:27Speaker 2Oh, man,↗

16:28@warsawerikyou have a really, really fascinating life story, and I'm sure everyone has a million questions, as I do. And, huge appreciation to you, and thank you so much, because As soon as you came back from Gaza, you've been doing nonstop interviews. Your interview on Tucker Carlson was amazing, and, I mean, I've, I've just seen you absolutely everywhere, man. So, the work that you put in has definitely gone noticed. we all noticed what you've done and, and how much you've helped and how much you've risked, man. So, salute to you and thank you for that one. I, I don't wanna take up too much of the microphone, I'm gonna, do we have a↗

17:07@warsawerikJoanne, I wasn't paying attention who was moving up↗

17:11@joann_mariefirst. Yeah, I- Yes, I also wanna, thank Ian for hosting and Eric, thank you so much for co-hosting and Anthony Aguilar, you're an absolute hero. I've interviewed you before, so thank you so much for being here and everything you've done and it's, it's just amazing. So thank you so much for all your work and everybody, thank you so much for being here and guys, please repost this page, follow Ian and Eric and Anthony, and amazing speakers. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. And thank you, thank you, thank you, really, for being here. Tom, welcome. How are you?↗

17:47Speaker 1Hey, how's it going? Great space. Yeah, I have a bunch of questions, but I'll start with a quick one. And, yeah, it has to do with, I watched your interview with, with Tucker Carlson, great interview. And there was something you said in the interview when you described Gaza as reminding you of Terminator, the movie? Interested in hearing you expound a bit on, on why you felt that was the case, but has it ever occurred to you that what we're living through with the data centers and all this push to bring about this AI control grid is very much analogous to what we saw happen in that movie and play out in real time, well, play out in that movie, and what we're seeing happening in Gaza now↗

18:22Speaker 1is a microcosm of what these people would like to do on US soil if they had the resources and possibility to do so. Do you think it is that bleak, or am I being too pessimistic↗

18:34Speaker 2I would, I would say that, oh, and, before I answer that, I just wanted to also thank, thank Ian for hosting this. I know I thanked Eric, but I also wanted to thank Ian. But to answer your question, that dystopian wasteland post-apocalyptic scene that you see in, in Terminator, in the beginning scene where the newest variant of the, the T1000 machines are moving through the, you know, the, the rubble of what was once humanity, that's exactly what it looks- Look like in Gaza. That's, that's the only way that I could think to describe it, where you, where when we were driving through the,↗

19:13Speaker 2the rubble and the piles of, piles and piles of rubble as far as the eye can see through Rafa, and as bombs continued to drop around you, in the foreground, behind you, to the left, and to the right, and buildings are dropping, and, and everything is being destroyed, and there's drones overhead, and there's artillery fire, and there's-↗

19:34Speaker 2tanks rolling through, and as you're driving through Rafa, and a giant D9 bulldozer is ahead of you clearing the route to get to one of the distribution sites for the first time with the trucks, and you can hear Palestinians crying out from the rubble, knowing that they'll never be rescued, and that no one will ever come to get them.↗

19:56Speaker 2And there's no other way I can describe it than that. Your assessment of,↗

20:05Speaker 2of seeing that back here and is that, that kind of that cliche comparison to what we're seeing there with, with the technology, the dehumanization, the reliance on machines, less on human empathy, more on machine driven warfare, 'cause that's what this is, it's machine driven warfare.↗

20:26Speaker 2It, that is very concerning to me. I, I fear for that, and I'll tell you why, because in Ukraine, where Ukraine has become such a drone-like war, where, drone swarming, machine learning, AI-driven machine learning attached to drone, drone swarming, where the war is now of the machines, and we could lose control of that. It's scary. Now, in terms of you saying that it could come back here, it already has. What we're seeing with, with ICE is, is not simply something that just↗

21:08Speaker 2developed recently. This has been years in the making with the militarization of ICE. And I'm not picking on ICE in terms of, of, you know, 'cause that's the, the, the newest thing to pick on. I'm specifically picking or discussing ICE because, you know, I, I often talk about ICE and that abolish ICE, and a lot of people tell me, "Oh, great, we'll just let illegal immigrants into our country and have, have no control." And I ask them↗

21:43Speaker 2Who do you think we had before ICE? ICE hasn't been around very long. If you're, if you're over the age of twenty-two, you remember a, a, a US without ICE. They weren't created until two thousand and three. And the, the organization that we, that we closed and shuttered and abolished, yes, abolished for ICE, was Immigration and Naturalization Services, or the INS. And prior to two thousand and three, the United States had one of the most, considered by the world, one of the most↗

22:19Speaker 2holistic immigration policy programs in the world. And immigration isn't new in our country. Seventeen ninety is when the first, Naturalization Act was first passed When, when immigration became part of our constitution and our law. So from 1790 to 2003, those that say, "Well, we can't abolish ICE," well, we were pretty successful with, with, with adapting, changing, developing immigration policy for two hundred and thirty-six years,↗

22:59Speaker 2and ICE being a, a, a product of the global war on terror and the Patriot Act And what we are now seeing on America's streets with Palantir, data-driven operations, people on the street, footsoldiers on the street, so to speak, executing targeted raids in our neighborhoods using data driven collected through open source type of media, you know? Collecting information and data on all of us, Palantir and, and its rise, and we've seen the, the, the leaders and the owners of Palantir and the things that they say,↗

23:47Speaker 2that, you know, when, when, when the world is going, going bad, business for Palantir is good. The co- the, the, the co-founder said that. So I absolutely do fear, what we've seen, you know, what you would see the, the, the world as it is in like the Terminator movie. This, you know, you know, man has, has gone to war with each other and now we're fighting the machines.↗

24:20Speaker 2I'm scared for that because it's here, you know, the tomorrow is here. The technology that I've seen when I was in the military still, as my last job after battalion command as a, as a capability manager, and what that means is, I did the research development and wrote proposals as to new weaponry or machines or technology or equipment that we would need to fight,↗

24:45Speaker 2war twenty years from now. I was a futures capabilities manager. And to see what, what we have now and what's coming, it's scary. And right now, I feel that when we look at how it's being used in places like Gaza, in places like here in the United States, it doesn't bode well for ne-necessarily having a sense of, of, of the government using it responsibly.↗

25:10Speaker 2And I'll end there.↗

25:12Speaker 1Yeah, thank you very much. Amazing, very comprehensive answer. And when it comes to the last piece of that, really quickly, guys, and I'll shut up. The last bit of what you said with respect to your experience and understanding some of these new weapon systems that are being engineered, and some of them have been developed and available for a long time, but aren't necessarily known to the public, I would love to host the space about that if Ian or Joanne are interested. But thank you very much.↗

25:37@joann_marieThank you so much, I, I would love to co-host with you. Sorry, Eric. And, and guys, remember to try to keep it to, to one question. And I wanted to add something really quick. The, the people in the panel probably already know this, but for the listeners, they use drones and play sounds of baby crying in Gaza so that the people go and rescue the babies and then kill them. And it's, that, it's, it's horrific what's going on. So thank you so much, Anthony, for, for Speaking up against this, and I know it has come to, a lot of people have done, bad things to you and a lot of, you're, it's a, it's a bad time. So thank you so much for, you're a hero.↗

26:22@joann_marieand thank you so much for being here. Alright, sat, go for it. Hey↗

26:28Speaker 3everybody, Ian, thanks for, thanks for us in the space, Eric, Joanne, see some of the OGs in here. Good to see y'all. I have Like six questions, but to respect the co-host orders, I will keep it to one, and, and I've been battling which one. I wanna talk about your military service. I'm a prior service myself, was in for almost ten years active duty,↗

26:51Speaker 3and I was completely devoid of any political awareness during my time, and I'm guessing you'd-- you know, if you would have seen some numerous red flags. I doubt you would have made it twenty-five years, but was Gaza kind of the final-- I mean, you said it lifted the veil, but during your twenty-five years, were there other-- Did you question anything at all in regard to, you know, did you see things that made it? What are we doing here, blah, blah, blah? Kind of, you know, that's kind of where I'm going with this. Obviously, you were Special Forces, so you had to deal with things that you can't discuss. But did it all just kind of hit you with Gaza, or throughout your time, did you kind of notice some things where you were questioning, "What the hell's happening?" Because I didn't myself, and I'm always interested in, in if I was just a moron or if, there were some, you know, things that you kind of noticed.↗

27:48Speaker 3Well, for me,↗

27:49Speaker 2it was↗

27:53Speaker 2a multitude of factors. It wasn't one thing alone. In my 25 years in the military, I joined at 17. I joined before I was even old enough to vote, so I maintained pretty apolitical views throughout the entire time that I was in the military. I was deployed a lot, and↗

28:17Speaker 2Part of, part of what keeps me up at night, I should say, in terms of reflecting on my life and reflecting on where I am now, those questions of why, why did I stay in so long if I knew it was wrong? And why, why did I continue? And it's really this, you know, in, in the human nature of cognitive dissonance and- And, you know, the fear of unknown and change or the, the,↗

28:48Speaker 2the narcissism, I guess, that, that thinking that you can change it, the thinking you can fix it. And when I first joined the army, we weren't at war. 9/11, global war on terror. When I went to Iraq, did I believe the government in Weapons of mass destruction. They're gonna use them against us. If we don't fight them there, they'll be fighting us here. Afghanistan. The Taliban harbored Al Qaeda. That's where they attacked us from. If we don't overthrow them and take-- and we take action, it'll happen again. This war-mongering and this fear and this, this war-mongering and fear wrapped in this sense of patriotism. Yeah, I, I, I bought it hook, line, and sinker, all in.↗

29:40Speaker 2And deployment after deployment after deployment after deployment after deployment, I started to just realize that, you know, it's not adding up. Doesn't make sense. And there's a few things that happened towards the end of my career that really, got me Questioning our government↗

30:01Speaker 4The withdrawal from Afghanistan. I was a battalion commander, deployed a staff forward to Hamid Karzai International Airport during the withdrawal, and days and days and days of sitting in the, the Joint Operations Center as we left Iraq, or left Afghanistan. I reflected on all the times I'd been deployed to Afghanistan and how our mission changed all the time and how,↗

30:33Speaker 4at the lower level, we were so aware of, "This isn't sustainable. The Afghan security forces that we are training can't sustain themselves. The minute we're gone, this will fall apart." And higher ranking officers wanting- To have a tour or a, a, a deployment being successful, you gotta show the wins. And we lied to ourselves for over twenty years. And when we left,↗

31:06Speaker 4sure enough, that house of cards fell. And there's a famous quote from a Taliban commander, where he speaks to an American and he says, "You Americans, you own all the watches." But we own all the time. Technology didn't win in Iraq, technology didn't win in Afghanistan. Failing policy, not having a clear objective, failed.↗

31:36Speaker 4And I saw that, and I knew it, and it's, it's like being in a codependent relationship where you think, "You know, I, I have to, like, I can't just walk away." And towards the, the, the twenty-five year point in my career, I felt that, that I couldn't be a part of it anymore. But nothing that I had ever experienced in my twenty-five years in the military ever led me to believe that a war crime or a, a, a horrible situation, you know,↗

32:17Speaker 4Blowing, you know, the, the destruction of a, of a, of a hospital or a school, whether it was accident or intentional with clearance, none of the things that I ever saw that were bad, did I ever feel that the United States government was doing bad intentionally, was knowingly being the harm? Gaza changed that for me because when we went into Gaza↗

32:43Speaker 5Wait a minute, so those images from Abu Ghraib didn't give away that the American military could do wrong?↗

32:49Speaker 4Oh, no, no, I, yes, that the military could do wrong. But what happened at Abu Ghraib wasn't a, wasn't a military policy or a government policy. Oh, really?↗

32:59Speaker 5What was that Alvin Krongard's policy on rendition and torture and waterboarding that Dick Cheney bragged about, saying they were enhanced interrogation techniques? Where did that, where did those orders come from to do that kind of torture?↗

33:12Speaker 4I don't know, that's not something that I'm familiar with. It wasn't Kargan that↗

33:14Speaker 5gave that order, and it was Michael Chertoff, another Jew fuck lawyer, that you gave the legal cover for it. You're claiming ignorance right now. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Why don't you admit it? You're just-- This is willful ignorance on your part. Let him go. No, you're not↗

33:25@warsawerikaware of that, and↗

33:29Speaker 5you're not aware of that as it's happening, at the very top levels of-- All of course not. The images weren't a Well, I mean, guys, it doesn't take time.↗

33:46Speaker 6He, he, but it doesn't take time↗

33:48Speaker 5to wake up, man. What about the new massacre? You didn't see that either. What Blackwater was doing? You didn't see that either. You guys are just fucking blind and saw nothing. You murdered a million civilians there, and your only excuse is, "Oh, we didn't..."↗

34:05@warsawerikGuys, keep it all in turn. And then, like, dude, for real, even, even myself, I'll speak for myself. Like, dude, I was brainwashed for, I, I believed every single stupid lie, in the Iraq War for like the first four years. Remember, common human tendency is that people see with their hearts and not with their eyes. I was being told one thing and seeing something completely different on TV, and I was still going by what I was, what I was told. And, you know, it took me some time to actually see with my eyes and not with my freaking, my ideology and not with what I was told. So, I mean, this is the same process that we all go through, guys.↗

34:43@joann_marieAnd he talked about the cognitive dissonance that he had, and he finally sees the truth now, so let's try not to shame him for, for twenty years↗

34:51Speaker 5to get over cognitive dissonance. So the whole country's got destroyed during that time. He sees it now. He sees it now. Yeah, and what now?↗

34:59@warsawerikWhat's the point? I mean, look how many people are against us, and they're not waking up at all, man. Look how many people are against us, and they haven't woken up at all. I woke up at twenty-two↗

35:09Speaker 5a day, so fuck↗

35:12@warsawerikI, I woke up in my late, in my late twenties. That's considered late. You know, so we all, we all have different times, man. But I mean, the guy, we're all working together. Eight million people↗

35:24Speaker 5got displaced and you got over↗

35:26@warsawerikyour- Truth, truth. What do you want, what do you want military members to do? Sit down and↗

35:30Ian Malcolmgrovel, bro? What the fuck you want? It's easy to look back at it the second-↗

35:35Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, hindsight's twenty-twenty. It's just why the fuck did it take you↗

35:42@joann_marieLet's,↗

35:47@warsawerikoh my god. Guys, always be respectful and stuff too, man. I mean, come on, man. And if you wanna keep it to an↗

35:51@joann_marieinterview-↗

35:52@warsawerikWe're, we're all working, we're all working toward, to a greater goal. We're all working to freaking stop Zionism. I mean, you can get on my ass for not waking up fast enough. Maybe I shoulda woken up in my early twenties instead of my late twenties. I mean, but we're all here now, we're all trying to figure it out, man. We're all trying↗

36:16@warsawerikJoanne, and, and thank you everybody for keeping, questions, short and everything, too. I appreciate that. But I mean, come on, guys. I mean, I mean, realistically, idealistically, yeah, we all should, we sh- we all should have woken up faster. We all, the pe- the whole world should not have woken up on October 7th. It shouldn't have taken a freaking open genocide to wake the world up. But I mean, it, it, it happened the way it happened, man. And unfortunately↗

36:41@warsaweriklook at everybody on our side now. So, I mean, it's not, it's not, it's not perfect, but it's, it's, it's what we got. Playing with the cards we're dealt. Well, I just wanna say thanks to Anthony for addressing my question, and thanks, guys, for, letting me, let me ask it.↗

36:57@joann_marieThank you so much, Sat. And, yeah, okay, let's, let's move on to the next person. Mace, thank you so much for being here. Go for it.↗

37:06Speaker 6Hey guys, you guys don't need me to hit my sound, do you? No, I'm just kidding. so I, appreciate you having this space. I hope everybody repost it. this is definitely a great opportunity to ask, Mr. Aguilar some questions. And I'm sorry, I think it's Colonel, Colonel Aguilar. my question, so there's been a lot of claims and discussions on this app about the possible training exchanges between, and the cooperation between ICE and the Israeli security forces or whatever. The↗

37:37Speaker 6like based on what you've seen or learned, can you clarify what about that is accurate and the training that is actually involved? I think a lot of people are just naysayers about that, but I've found a lot of evidence pointing to that actually being true, so I'd love to know your take.↗

37:57Speaker 4Yeah, that's definitely a topic that I have spoken out a lot about lately.↗

38:05Speaker 4And to the previous gentleman that was, that was speaking, that was, was upset, I certainly understand where he's coming from and what his position is. I don't think you need to call somebody fucking retarded, but I understand your anger and your position from you looking at me from your perspective. but I'll tell you that it's,↗

38:29Speaker 4you know, there's all, all the things that you mentioned, Abu Ghraib. You know, I wasn't, I wasn't even aware of those things happening until much later, because I was deployed in a very austere and remote place, at the time, and I never participated or took part in direct war crimes or murdered Iraqi civilians that, were unarmed.↗

38:56Speaker 4you know, not, not everyone's experience is this Generalized experience of we just all went over there and just killed civilians, and we were all knowingly part of some master plan. That's not true. Now, I'll take responsibility for things that, whether I should have known or not known or, or caught on to sooner. But before you go calling someone stupid or retarded, maybe you should think about, you know, the millions of people that have served, and, you know, we're not all stupid and retarded. We all have different reasons for how we serve and how we serve our country.↗

39:34Speaker 4to your question about ICE, the Department of Homeland Security's fiscal year strategy for FY twenty-three to twenty-seven. Specifically outlines a program called the bi-na-ti-the, the bi-national industrial research and development program. That program is specifically funded, authorized, and designed for ICE agents, specifically ICE, select CBD, the Bortac, so those guys you saw from the Customs and Border Patrol that swarmed Alex and shot him, those guys were Bortac.↗

40:18Speaker 4so Bortac, Border Tactical Team, ICE, other components within the Department of Homeland Security, train in Israel with Israeli's minit- Ministry of National Security elements.↗

40:36Speaker 4Intel, law enforcement, military action, all those things that, that we see ICE operating, they do train in Israel. That is a funded program, and Israelis come to the United States and train at the National Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia. So these aren't speculations, these are actual existing relationships.↗

41:04Speaker 4When I was still active duty, because I worked with a joint force and a joint command, working with interagency, I personally witnessed and was part of in, in, in larger training events with components of Homeland Security and ICE and others training with the military, training with the IDF, training with elements of the National, of the Ministry of National Security. And specifically in Israel, I've been to this base and I saw it when I was there, again, this last time,↗

41:40Speaker 4working for the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. The National Urban Training Center in Beersheba houses the training for this, this co-hosted training with ICE, DEA, BorderTech, IDF, but also They train with the intel analysts in the use and the implementation of Palantir. So the, the training aspect isn't, isn't speculation, it's not, it's not a, a conspiracy theory. It is, it is absolutely true. It is funded. It is part of our law in the National Defense Authorization Act and the hundred and sixty-nine billion dollars That is being, paid to the Department of Homeland Security to increase the field agency from four hundred last year, they're now up close to two thousand, but by twenty twenty-seven, ICE will be ten thousand field agents strong, making it the largest fielded law enforcement agency in the country. So None of that is speculation, and none of that is something that I just heard. That is in our law, that is in the National Defense Authorization Act, that is in the Department of Homeland Security strategy. It is actually happening. The exchange of tactics, techniques, and procedures, the exchange of, of, functions, that is, that is very real.↗

43:08Speaker 6Can I ask a quick, quick, quick follow-up, Joann, if you don't mind? I know that the funding, is tremendous. Yes, it is. the funding is tremendous, the funding amount that is going to ISIS is tremendous. Do you know what type of like training that is that's gonna-- Is it, is it the staff or the, the resources that they are, the amount of people, or do you know if it's the tech integration or maybe a little bit of both?↗

43:35Speaker 4It's, it's all of those things. So when you look at how- When you look at how a department is funded, so, you know, we all pay our taxes, right? And it goes into the big, into the big pool, and every year, every year the National Defense Authorization Act appropriates money to those departments, to the Department of Defense, $189 billion. Next year's National Defense Authorization Act is already being drafted. March-April timeframe is it'll start to be staffed, it gets fought on over the summer, and then by October it has to be si-- by law, it has to be signed, sealed, and delivered, because it starts in the fiscal year, which is why we always have these, you know, these, "Government's gonna shut down." The NDAA is a very big part of that. So within the NDAA, in terms of these departments that are funded and appropriated, within each of those, like DHS↗

44:34Speaker 4That money goes to the Manning, the training, the equipping, the technology, the, all of the things that make the department run. Now, ICE's budget particularly has more than quadrupled just over the last year because of the push to now bring the, the force to ten thousand, the full implementation of of Palantir and, and other↗

45:05Speaker 4biometric data enrollment type of software and programs that you have to implement in the field. You have to train people how to use those. you have to, I, I am very, very, very, very confident that in the next series of ICE occupations or ICE operations, Georgia is next. They're already building up forces in, in, in, in and around Georgia. Georgia is next. Other cities will be next. We will then start to see the implementation of mobile, in-hand biometric enrollment devices on the streets of America, where ICE agents, in addition to just arresting someone or holding someone because they, they're, they, they might be an illegal immigrant, and we've seen that, we've seen American citizens being detained. Anybody and everybody that gets detained will now be biometrically enrolled through these biometric enrollment devices, which is then controlled in the backend by Palantir. I've seen it. We-- I have seen these devices, I have used them, I'm, I'm, I'm familiar with the technology. We use them in Syria, when we were, fighting ISIS and we were processing, ISIS,↗

46:15Speaker 4as prisoners of war, and we use these, we use these. They're not, they're not secret, it's not Jason Bourne type of stuff, it so that funding goes, goes to all of those things, and that funding has, has only increased more and more and more and more and more. And when you think about it, why do we need an immigration customs enforcement of ten thousand↗

46:41Speaker 4agents? W- why do we need that? Well- We need that if we intend to put ICE agents into the streets of every city in America. and that funding is funded. The, the Congress has signed that into law. That's not up for debate. You can see it. Go to the National Defense Authorization Act and go to the section of the Department of Homeland Security, and you can see it. So all of the money goes into all of those things, the training, the software, the equipment, the--↗

47:12Speaker 4everything you see the, the ICE agents equipped with. those are, that's all paid through appropriation in the National Defense Authorization Act, which our Congress votes on as law, and that money goes directly to that agency to spend as that secretary sees fit, in this case, Christine Nome. So that, that's kind of a, a nutshell of how that process works.↗

47:40Ian MalcolmAnd just out of curiosity, Anthony, when it comes to this, I, I, if you wouldn't mind, I'd, I'd be curious to kinda take a step, let's say up and, and elevate a little bit and go, I suppose, a little bit in the land that I dabble in, which is, is trying to understand the, the fifty thousand feet, on top of the, the specificities that you were just kinda laying out there, I'd be kinda curious for your thoughts. I've, I've been watching everything with Doge that basically↗

48:08Ian MalcolmAnd efficiencies, in which case a lot of tech was implemented and prospectively, let's say some, some-- I don't want to call them shady, but, perhaps some guardrails were just stepped over. and I say that because we obviously know that there were a bunch of people from Palantir that were part of Doge, and we even saw, if I'm not mistaken, it was either the IRS or the Social Security Administration that had a whistleblower come out and basically say Doge came in and they uploaded all of our data to a non-secure cloud. and so now we're, you know, if, if we take that as a puzzle piece of yesterday, and then we couple it with what we're seeing right now with ICE, with this additional enforcement, we're seeing lots of people from Nick Fuentes to Alex Jones calling for what feel like more and more militarization of some of these efforts. I'm, I'm, I'm kind of curious if you have any fears or concerns that what we're seeing isn't only going to escalate, but could become essentially a executive branch led Militia or military force that could be used, kind of at the discretion, not of the states, not of their local legislature, but rather at the discretion of, of perhaps the White House and a couple people sitting atop of, of that branch. I'm, I'm kind of curious if you have concerns around that, or if you think perhaps-- which I often do, I often admit, I go far off into the weeds and off onto pretty thin limbs when it comes to trying to understand the world. Am I maybe overstepping the, the concern I would express for that, or, I think it might be a, a reasonable thing to have a little bit of hesitation about.↗

49:45Speaker 4I would say that it's a very real and legitimate concern, and the reason I say that is because in a way, we, we already see that happening to a certain degree, and if you read So the, this border, border and immigration strategy, so to speak, the brainchild behind that is Steve Miller and Stephen Miller. And when you read it,↗

50:16Speaker 4it absolutely calls For the potential to have that exact capability that you just laid out, a federal army, if you will, or a federal militia that doesn't answer to anybody but the executive branch, that isn't, that isn't impugned to any investigation or consequence. We've seen that, like, in the last month with, you know,↗

50:41Speaker 4The killing of Renee Good and then the killing of Alex Preddy, regardless of an any situation with a law enforcement engagement where, where someone is killed or shots are fired, there's an investigation. Why the administration has been so adamant against those procedures to establish this,↗

51:07Speaker 4Immunity to the law, so to speak, is very, very concerning because we, we see that power expanding, and there's three things that you consider when↗

51:21Speaker 4the utilization of, of an organization, for example, like ICE, you have to consider, the law. What does the law allow? Well, we've seen that this administration is more than willing to step over that line, skirt it Break it, step over it. Then there's capability. You can break the law to do something, but if you don't have the capability to do it, you're not gonna be able to, to-- So for example, with the protests and everything that happened in Minneapolis,↗

51:53Speaker 4there's not enough, ICE isn't big enough to have handled that on its own. And ICE had isolated itself from local support in that it wasn't a, a holistic joint one team effort. ICE was kind of administr-- or bureaucratically isolated, not big enough, not capable. Well, that's changing because they're becoming capable and more and more capable of being that federalized executive branch militia like you described. And then there's, there's the, there's the intent of its use. So, is it lawful or is it not lawful?↗

52:31Speaker 4If it's not lawful, are we gonna break the law and do it? Do we have the capability to go and do the things that we wanna do as we're breaking the law to do it? And then is there, is there the intent to do it? This administration has demonstrated to all of us, I believe, that there is absolutely the intent There is absolutely the willingness and the capability in front of our eyes is expanding with the increase of those agents. So when you put together intent,↗

53:03Speaker 4will, the capability, with this administration, yes, I fear for that in a very real sense.↗

53:13Ian MalcolmYeah, no, it's, it, and that's, I, I'm, I'm glad I'm not, on Looney Tunes Island when, when I have those, those fears. And I, I, I recognize that, look, there, there under the Biden administration, an estimated twenty-five million people illegally came into the country, and I, I, I do, I support, remigration, en masse for what it's worth from the Western world, and I say that because I feel like a lot of the people that came in,↗

53:43Ian MalcolmAs essentially a, a, I don't wanna call it a military, but that they were weaponized, let's say, against the middle class prosperity. And even if we leave all of the, let's say, friction that might be generated due to cultural differences or all those other pieces of the puzzle, the economic impact on the basic supply-demand curve, not only for labor, which is gonna depress wages, but also for places to live, to eat, to sleep, which is going to increase the cost of living for just about everybody, it's, it's just a double whammy, And kind of any racial tensions or those other cultural pieces at the door, it, it undermined the average ability for your average American to live a middle class, prosperous life, and that, that is an economic, let's say, act of war. And I, I really believe that that was the case. So I support the, the removal of individuals. I just, in Sennex' little question, I'd be curious why this doesn't happen more, because to me it seems like if, if Donald Trump and the administration wants to deal with this problem, that is Is currently leading to all of the, the violent outbursts. That instead of trying to build a military to go out and just grab people from their front doors, you could simply say, "We're no longer gonna provide you a front door to walk into to sleep at night." We're not gonna give you a front door to send your kids through so they can go to school on the taxpayers' dollar, right? We're not going to allow you to walk through a door to be an employee of Chipotle, of McDonald's, of Starbucks, of IBM, whatever it might be. And, and so the most bizarre piece that I can't comprehend, if, if Trump wants to fix the problem, why not come out and say, "We are going to cut all funding for all of these programs that are, that result in schools all across the country that are almost entirely, in many is, English as a second language because most of the students just are fresh off the, the crossing of the border, right? And they could say, "No more school, no more food stamps, no more housing stipends, no more SNAP program, and oh, by the way, if we, the government, find that you, the corporations, are employing people that are illegally in the country, we are going to fine you so hard that you won't ever do it again." And, and so without a single bullet being fired, without a single set of handcuffs being utilized, a lot of people that are currently in the United States for the ability to have what unfortunately is in most cases lower class prosperity would just say, "If I can't have any prosperity at all, I'm gonna go home." And, and so it seems to me that, that what is being done, this use of all of the, the, the escalation of tension between ICE and the migrants, it feels like theater, it feels artificial, it feels insincere. And, and so I'm curious, Anthony, have you, have you heard about any of these economic levers that could so easily be utilized to try and fix this problem? And why is nobody in Washington discussing these intelligently on, on the media? It makes no sense if anybody's sincerely interested in fixing it.↗

56:38Speaker 4Well, that's-- That is the quintessential question as to why, why I take it upon myself to go to DC one week out of every month, more sometimes, and ask, and ask our legislators that exact question. So, just looking at the, the immigration example Prior to 2023 under the Immigration and Naturalization Services, we had a toolkit of op-toolkit of ways in all of those things that you just described.↗

57:13Speaker 4When we brought in ICE, the INS went away. We didn't just bring in ICE to complement Immigration National Services capability, we, we abolished INS. So we took this robust toolset, and again From 1790 to the 1880s, through the Nationalization Act, the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act, when we realized, oh, yes, making, making, making limited citizen-citizenship to only free white men is probably, not advantageous, and iterations of, of our immigration policy from the quota system years, from World War II and the Cold War, to the Immigration and National-Nationality Act of 1952, to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 65, the Hart-Cellar Correct. So,↗

58:02Speaker 4all of the things that you just described is how our immigration and naturalization services did work. Was it perfect? No, but it was effective, and it didn't require shots to be fired, or people to be killed in the street, or doors to be kicked in, and, and terror on the streets of the United States. Our government, our congressmen, our legislatures know this, or at least they should know this. So when I go to DC, I ask them that exact question, "Why,↗

58:34Speaker 4why are we using a hammer to replace the toolkit we once had? When it comes at a much higher cost, and it's evident at this point that it causes quite a bit of tension, turmoil, and friction in states when you send ICE or federalized agents in to do, this type of, of unilateral work?" So to your question, Abs, that is the question. Why aren't we doing those things? Is it because,↗

59:03Speaker 4we, we have congressmen that, that just aren't aware? I don't think that's the case. Most of them have law degrees and are doctors and, you know, very well educated, so I don't think it's that. Is it, is it,↗

59:21Speaker 4Ideology? Is it, is it, the thought of like, "Yeah, we could do it that way, but I want, you know, I wanna do it this way." Or is it being done for a greater purpose of intimidation and control of our society? Now, that sounds very conspiratorial, but when you think about, all I'm just, all I'm saying is just Listen to the words that are spoken to us. Listen to the words that come out of Stephen Miller's mouth. Listen to the words that come out of the mouth of our own president. Read Project 2025. Look at what's being written into new laws.↗

1:00:00Speaker 7And how it's being written, the Fourteenth Amendment, these aren't things that are, that are, that are conspiracy or being made up, we're seeing it right before our eyes. So the reason I think we're not seeing it in a way where you could do it without a shot being fired is because the intent isn't to have peace And cooperation and, and a, and a, and a working function. The plan right now is to have↗

1:00:30Speaker 7separation, division, friction for certain people in power to seize more power. It, that's what I think's coming. I mean, our president has still not dropped the topic of this third term. He's not joking. I mean, his, his surrogates, Steve Bannon Stephen Miller, they've all talked about it. So the, this president, time and time again, has shown us that what he says, he will attempt to do. So I think the, the greater reason behind it all is for, is for power and control of society to↗

1:01:13Speaker 7consolidate more control. To what end? I don't know yet, but I don't think it's gonna be good.↗

1:01:20Ian MalcolmI, I couldn't agree with you more, and that's why, like I said, I know these things get, a little conspiratorial, but the, the challenge is, it feels, especially the last, five to ten years, we can go all the way back kinda to COVID, it feels like, conspiracy theory is, is just a term for either good intuition, or for what is going to become commonly known truth, in a year or two. And so that's a quick question, and, and this one, I Into the nest, and then I will, take it down after I pose the question, everybody gets a chance to see it. But I wanna use this to kinda lead the question, and the reason I say that is somebody threw up into the purple pill, "This is why Ian Malcolm '84 is a see you next Tuesday," and I'm sure that that was typed while I was asking about the idea of remigration.↗

1:02:12@warsawerikI love you for being a con-↗

1:02:13Ian MalcolmThere you go. And, and look, I, I, I call balls and strikes as I see 'em, and I try just to be an honest person. I try to share my opinions, and I'm not going to mold them based on what's popular. I'm gonna mold them based on what I believe to be correct and to be true. And, and so Anthony, the reason I bring this up, and this individual's suggestion, is because what I found is, for whatever reason, if I discuss the idea of border security in the United States,↗

1:02:41Ian MalcolmOr not too long ago, articulated is common sense. He said every country needs a border, every country needs to be able to protect that border, and every country has a right to its citizenry to remove people who illegally cross it. That was common sense Democrat positions just fifteen years ago, and yet today, apparently suggesting that remigrating criminals who illegally came across the border, and I believe that, oh, by the way, they did that with the assistance of large NGOs that were spending millions, maybe tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars to facilitate that. I think the US government was complicit in it. That does make it both a threat domestic and foreign that we're conducting what I believe to be essentially biological Or cultural warfare against the citizenry. But, but Anthony, the reason that I put that post up there and then I bring this question, try to frame it, is as an individual that, that aims to solve common sense problems with common sense solutions and is trying to genuinely just put a good foot forward. I'd be curious what your thoughts are on the current political landscape where apparently a person listening to this conversation says that I'm a see you next Tuesday because I want a border defended. I want people who illegally cross it removed, which, again, just fifteen years ago, that was common sense that probably eighty, ninety, ninety-five, maybe ninety-nine percent of the people in the country would have agreed to, but we live in an era of wokeism and of what I believe to be media launched propaganda that has just turned the citizenry even against the most sensible of positions. I'd, I'd be curious for your thoughts on kind of the emotional, tension.↗

1:04:20Speaker 7Well, it's very polarized and it's very emotional. And people are, are, are kind of going into these bipolarities of it, of it's, this means this and this means this and there's no gray area.↗

1:04:31Speaker 8Ian, check your DMs.↗

1:04:32Speaker 7I, I agree with you, Ian, about, a, a border. A nation's border is critical and vital to its national interest and security. A border defines its territory, enforces its sovereignty, controls movement of people and goods, manages resources, establishes laws, maintains economic stability All these things that a border provides. It's fundamental to modern international system of governing, governance and government, and↗

1:05:03Speaker 7we should have a secure border. Absolutely. I don't think the way you get a secure border is necessarily through building a wall or making, policies that provide no pathways, because we share a very large border. On both sides. Now, we all know that more come from one than the other, but we have very large borders and we have very large coasts. So↗

1:05:32Speaker 7I don't think it's gonna come to necessarily building a wall and putting a human being every ten feet. You have to have advanced technology. We're not gonna be able to do it with a wall. We have to bring in more advanced technology along the border. We do have to increase personnel, but increase the right personnel that have the right set of skills. We should also, though, from more of a, outside of the physical aspect of it, we should enhance those legal pathways When Immigration and Naturalization Services was abolished in 2003 and ICE replaced it, a lot of those enhanced legal pathways, such as guest worker programs, a faster asylum process, various exchange programs of, of work and student visas, and, and of various visas, a lot of that went away because there was no longer an agency to process that. ICE doesn't do that. We also have to address root causes. I mean, we, we have to address root cause with the economy, trade with our, with our, with our, with the global south, to enhance, you know, the, the livelihood there from where people are, are, are escaping from.↗

1:06:42Speaker 7there's-- I absolutely agree. We must have a secure and strong border. Anybody that says otherwise, I would say, is, is, is irresponsible as a citizen. It's how we do it that I think there's, there's so much contention in terms of, is it this brutal militarized way of locking down our border? 'Cause I'll tell ya, that doesn't work either. I've seen that type of border function. Case in point, Tajikistan.↗

1:07:14Speaker 7The majority of Tajikistan's military force is a border force, the Tajik border guards. I've trained with them, trained them, I've worked with them. And they're stationed all around the border, in every aspect, and they have one of the largest problems with illegal immigration into their country from Kazakhstan and from Russia.↗

1:07:37Speaker 7So the actual physical domination control, that doesn't work either. So how do we do it?↗

1:07:47Speaker 7I think that with, you know, you, you, you can't just use the hammer, you have to use the tool set. I think one thing that the United States has really turned its back on over the last two decades, or hasn't invested more in, are enhanced legal pathways and processes for responsible legal immigration. And I know we can do it, we did it for two hundred and thirty-six years. It can be done. I mean, there was a time where immigrants coming into the United States,↗

1:08:20Speaker 7the majority of them coming to the United States through enhanced legal pathways and guest worker programs and asylum processes were educated, were, were↗

1:08:34Speaker 7They came to our country and they came as immigrants and became Americans and contributed, and I feel that most immigrants still do. But to your point, yes, we should have a secure border. Two, we, we should have a process to address illegal immigrants in our country. However There's a difference between someone that crossed the border illegally under, you know, the darkness of night through a, you know, a coyote that brought them across the, the, the,↗

1:09:06Speaker 7the Rio Grande, and someone that came over the border on a visa that is either processing that visa and it expired or their, their, their, their process of citizenship is, is bogged down in the deluge of our asylum process. so there's a difference between an illegal immigrant that, that, that literally snuck in here nefariously, and an illegal immigrant that came here and is, and is, and is delayed in the, in the administrative or the bureaucratic process. But I think that we, we should definitely have a secure border. I, I believe that wholeheartedly. That, that I will agree on.↗

1:09:49Ian MalcolmWolf, did you wanna jump in with a question?↗

1:09:52Speaker 8Yeah. Hey, okay, cool. Thanks. Gotta go. Listen, appreciate the space, Ian and Eric and Joanne. Obviously, love you guys. It's good to see you today. Beautiful day, Wednesday. Anthony. So, thanks, right, for your service. Absolutely. we, we all, we all respect our servicemen. And, the sacrifices they had to make, especially being away from their family for that long to, serve this great nation, the United States of America. So with that, I have a question for you. How do you feel about Antifa?↗

1:10:31Speaker 7I don't know much about them. I know that, at least, you know, from- What I know of recently that they're being identified as-↗

1:10:39Speaker 8Yeah, I have a show scheduled with them at five today. Just saying. What's that? I think you have a show with, Punch Up, P O D podcast, and they are on Tifa, yeah. Punch Up podcast?↗

1:10:55@warsawerikYes. Guy, I actually, I had a conversation with Anthony earlier about this one topic right here. Anthony's been in the military most of his life. I, I don't think he understands the details of politics in that direction too much, so I was kinda filling him in. Let↗

1:11:13Speaker 8me ask him then. What, what do you know about Antifa, and how do you feel about the people rioting in Minne-- Minnesota, Minne-- Minneapolis right now? These people that are rioting against ICE that are mainly- Most of these actors are Antifa. What do you know about them?↗

1:11:31Speaker 7I, I don't really know much about Antifa, other than the acronym is, is anti-fascist and that the, the United States government has identified them as domestic terrorists.↗

1:11:44Speaker 8And how do you, you don't stand with them in any shape or form?↗

1:11:48@warsawerikNo. like, I, guys, I, I was, I was talking to him in, in text messages, like, he's not fully aware of what these terms mean and, he's not fully aware of the, the past victory of MVP.↗

1:12:01Speaker 7So later today, I am going on Punch Up podcast. I have been a guest on that podcast numerous times, and the topic of discussion, has never been Antifa, nor have I ever, been involved with or supported or, or condoned anything that Antifa does. I have talked on Punch Up podcast one time about, my experience in Gaza, one time. About my feelings on ICE and training with the IDF, and this time I'm going to talk about, my congressional campaign and issues in North Carolina District 13.↗

1:12:42Speaker 8Okay. one more. what about, how do you feel about ICE? Because ICE is here because we did get twenty to forty million illegal immigrants coming in this country. Some of them, in the Biden era, they literally, murdered and stabbed innocent American civilians. Most of them, white Americans. does that bother you, or is only Palestine bothering you?↗

1:13:08Speaker 7Of course that bothers me.↗

1:13:13Speaker 8Okay, I haven't heard you talk about it. I just hear you talk about how bad ISIS is.↗

1:13:18Ian MalcolmYeah, and look, it's, it's,↗

1:13:19Speaker 7it's not true. I, I interviewed him, and we only talked about Palestine. Well, he, he does talk about Palestine a lot.↗

1:13:27Ian MalcolmYeah, and obviously, it's- Alright, well- It's, it's, it's- Okay. It's- Well, I↗

1:13:30Speaker 8appreciate that, Anthony, real quick. I appreciate that, Anthony. I just wanted to clarify, I mean, there's a lot of people out there that wanna, you know, they wanna hear about America, right? And why ICE is in America, and why they're going after illegal immigrants. And it might be not pretty, and it won't be pretty, because, yeah, it's gonna-- a lot of this stuff is gonna come now with sacrifices, and↗

1:13:55Speaker 8But what happened to the Biden administration wasn't correct either. So if I was a Democrat in office now, and they would have handled this a little differently, how would you feel about a Democrat now in office, doing, you know, mass immigration?↗

1:14:09Speaker 7I think the, the Democrats had it wrong too. I, I think that this isn't just a Trump administration problem. He's inheriting a lot of what the Biden administration failed to do. The Trump administration before Biden and the Obama administration before that. I'm not a Democrat, so I wouldn't be supportive of what the Democrats would do if they were gonna come back in and do the same old thing.↗

1:14:30Ian MalcolmYeah, and that's, that's the challenge. Just wanted to clarify. And, and that's why, and Anthony, I see Dr. Recktenwald has his hand up, so I'm gonna, I wanna go to him. but just to lead the witness, I'm not sure if this is gonna be, helpful in terms of setting the stage for him, but, it's one of the challenges with the left-right paradigm because it feels like the left wing over the last twenty or thirty years has basically said, "Here's the border↗

1:14:59Ian MalcolmIt's, let's say, gender wars, LGBT, all the other things in between, that are just destabilizing the nuclear families. So that's what we've seemingly got from the Democrats, and then by, the flip side, the conservatives, we've basically seen, "Let's go blow up the Middle East, for the folks, that I would say Trump is subservient to." And it, it feels to me like Trump is subservient to them and will blow up the Middle East for them, quote unquote, while the left wing is Which, if we look behind the forces of a lot of the leadership there, we find a weirdly similar power structure. And so it, it's, and, and who could better represent it than Maiorkus? I have, I have a↗

1:15:40Speaker 7question for the individual that asked, since he asked me the question, but you're talking about illegal immigration and the, the use of, of ICE as the response to that. When did illegal immigration spike in the United States?↗

1:15:55Speaker 8What do you mean? We had twenty to forty million illegals coming to this country in literally one and a half to two years, three years of, of Biden's term. Well, that's not true. Mass-- I mean, we had, we had-- Well, we had one day of a hundred and fifty thousand people, like two hundred and fifty thousand people, across all-- No, it's, it's just that, th-this is the thing, right? As if the latest census poll of the United States, hang on, hang on, Anthony, you were talking about, you were talking about Borders.↗

1:16:25Speaker 8Like, like what are you even saying? You sound like a lefty to me, to be honest. I don't care what you sound like. You might be a Green Beret and all that, you sound like a Lipton, dude, to be honest. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The↗

1:16:35Ian Malcolmlabels are, seriously. Yeah, let's, let's go to,↗

1:16:40Speaker 8Sorry, he does. We'll go to, we'll go to Dr. Richard. You know, in running for Congress, I will not↗

1:16:49Speaker 8Shut up, Lucy. What are you even in space for? You guys don't even live in↗

1:16:53@warsawerikAmerica. Okay, no, no, I don't think that is just, that's↗

1:16:58Ian Malcolmwild. we're gonna try and conduct ourselves like adults and, and have a productive conversation. I, and for what it's worth, here I was suggesting that both the left and the right are owned by the same paradigm. They are destroying the United States of America culturally. They're removing our ability to have any kind of homogenous footing, which is going to allow individuals prospectively to stand And in opposition to that machine, the more they construct the chaos, the more they extend the ladder that they climb up, they build more and more and more supremacy at the very top of the totem pole while basically giving everybody below absolute poverty and infighting. Which is weird because when we recognize those patterns, and then we fight amongst one another saying, "You're a lefty, you're a righty, you're a democrat, you're a..." That's just wild. I, I, I feel like we in these halls need to rise above those labels, those slurs. Let's talk logically↗

1:17:49Ian MalcolmAnthony's positions, I'm sure there's lots of things that I disagree with on, but, let's certainly be respectful, given he's taking the time to be here. Let's certainly, and I know Wolf did, he called out the, the thanking you for your service. and with that, let's go to Dr. Recktenwald. And for what it's worth, Anthony, I'm really excited that we have Dr. Recktenwald here, an individual who I'm not sure if you're familiar with Azapac, but he's directly Every single one of the presidential offices and administrations for the last twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years, and that seemingly have a complete stranglehold on Congress. So I'm really glad to be able to connect the two of you if you're not already familiar. And with that, I'll turn things over to Dr. Recktenwald.↗

1:18:32Speaker 9Hey, it's good to be here, everybody, and it's good to see you, Ian and Anthony, good to see you. I do have an announcement to make. That Azapac will be supporting Anthony, for his, in his campaign. We are fully behind him, and, we are going to endorse and fund him in his campaign, and, we think that he is definitely somebody that we need in Congress. I think that his vision is clear. His-- I think he's a hero for what he undertook, undertook in Gaza and, you know, basically blowing the whistle on this criminal activity of the Hamas, so-called humanitarian organization or whatever the hell they call themselves, that misnomer of, of all misnomers.↗

1:19:19Speaker 9and, you know, a-a-and, to get it back to the, the And I, I'd be curious to hear about Anthony. I, I just heard from your campaign manager who's returned our questionnaire, and we appreciate that very much, and all the questions were answered to the, to our total satisfaction. so, you know, on the ICE thing, I think that Anthony's correct here. I think what they're doing is creating a police state, and, this will be a police state that everybody will have to live under. That's the problem, and it's gonna be a palantir panopticon that will be in- In, they're using all of this Palantir technology for facial recognition and, and, AI to completely sort and,↗

1:20:07Speaker 9you know, identify and surveil upon all of these, immigrants and activists, and I believe it'll be extended to the entire population. I think that's the object. I know that sounds conspiratorial as well, and I do think that the, you know, the establishment works with the they use the Hegelian dialectic, frankly. They, they cause the problem, arouse the, the response, and then come along with the solution, which is always worse than the problem. And I think in this case, what would be implemented to supposedly address immigration is actually gonna be a police state that they'll impose on all of us. That's, that's why I oppose the way ICE is operating. I, you know, ICE came into existence when the↗

1:20:54Speaker 9Home Department of Homeland Security came into existence after 9/11. Their whole MO is basically based on this anti-terrorism sort of stand, and their highest officials have trained indeed with the IDF, and those IDF, principles are basically to treat protesters, to treat everybody that's throwing up any opposition to the powers that be, to treat them as Terrorists. That's the object, and, that's what we're living under. I don't care about left, right labels. I think it's nonsense in the sense that they use this to divide and conquer us↗

1:21:38Speaker 9I, you know, think that what's happened over the last, you know, several months is that we saw, in fact, the so-called left and right beginning to unite against Zionism and the Zionist control of our country and the Zionist depredations across the world, especially in the Middle East, but they've also funded other genocides, this is very, very well known. and so look, this is too important To throw, to throw up obstacles to somebody like Anthony, who I think has got absolutely our best interests at heart as, as an American. He's proven it through his service in the military, he's proven it through his service to the public sphere, and I think he deserves our support, and Azapac is firmly and fully behind him.↗

1:22:28@warsawerikThank you for that. That's a, that's a huge endorsement. Azapac is a huge endorsement, thank you.↗

1:22:34Speaker 7Yeah, I'm very, I'm very humbled by that. And again, that's, that is a, a huge endorsement, and to, to what you said in terms of my, my desire to serve the American people without an agenda of personal advantage or military-industrial complex or Lobbies or factions. I wanna serve the American people. There aren't no perfect answers to the problems that we face. and to the point you had mentioned about ICE,↗

1:23:06Speaker 7I, I don't stand against having firm, unified immigration policy. The, this whole notion, as I said earlier, that people that think that, that ICE is, is the entirety of our, of our immigration framework That is a lie. The reason I asked the question is to why did illegal immigration spike in the United States? And the individual that was speaking before, who mentioned something about twenty-four million and whatever it was, I mean, it's not even close to true or accurate. The unauthorized immigrant population in the United States right now is eleven million. In two thousand seven to two thousand nineteen, Anthony,↗

1:23:46Ian Malcolmyou would accept there are lots of estimates that would suggest, twenty to twenty-five million under the Biden administration, right?↗

1:23:53Speaker 7Well, sure, but I'm looking at that there were, that there were, and there were also, before the Biden administration, there was a steady decrease, increase, but the, the highest numbers that we've seen, 'cause right now we're, you know, those numbers matriculated from eleven point four to eleven down to ten point two, ten point five, now back up under eleven, which grew increasingly under Joe Biden, and there was a lot of-↗

1:24:24Speaker 7a lot of immigr- you know, the, the return of, of, of immigrants, a lot of operations, but if you look at when ICE was created under the DHS, under the Global War on Terror, is not necessarily a, a, a Customs and Naturalization Service, but a, but a counterterrorism service that In those years is when our illegal immigration went from the, the, the threes and fives up to twelve point two million, because we no longer had an organization or an agency that did the processing for immigration. So in a lot of cases, you had immigrants that came to this country going through the legal process, and then there was no process, so then therefore they were illegal. Not every immigrant that comes into the United States that's "quote unquote" illegal did so in some nefarious way or has nefarious intent. Are there violent criminals that are immigrants? Yes,↗

1:25:25Speaker 7it's not deniable. But to think that, that ICE is the answer to that, I think is, is, is an irresponsible, premise.↗

1:25:38Ian MalcolmJust out of curiosity, Anthony, and, and look, this is, this is a bit of a hypothetical, and I, I say this with no offense to anybody, although it, it might be somewhat inflammatory, I suppose, which is to ask if It was reasonable to suggest that, that let's say the migration numbers were higher than, than you had suggested, again hypothetical, if, and if those individuals, regardless of whether they came in with nefarious intent and criminal intent or they just walked across trying to make a better life for their family, which is completely understandable, but if those Events and occurrences and people were demonstrably economically detrimental to, to host or native born Americans. would you support their removal from the country, whether it be through something like ICE, which is a little bit more forceful, or through economic means, like the ones that I had suggested earlier, where the government simply says, "We're gonna criminalize the act of employing these people," and, and thus they're gonna self-deport themselves? Would you support things in that endeavor? And I say that just because while it is Emotionally charged to say it's nice to let those migrants that you might be referring to, who are just trying to make a better life, yes, it, it, it feels good to say they should stay here, but if they're detrimental to the people that are already here, well, then it's also reasonable to say that I wanna protect their interests as well from an, an emotional standpoint. So I'm curious for your thoughts on that.↗

1:27:08Ian MalcolmDid, did we lose you? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm here. You're good. I had, I had it↗

1:27:14Speaker 7muted. I'm sorry. The,↗

1:27:18Speaker 7yeah, of course, US citizens, are, are the priority, and you're right, there is a, a, or your observation is correct in that there is a drain on our resources, on our healthcare, on our economic resources when we have people in the country illegally. I do support and want responsible immigration and immigration control. I,↗

1:27:48Speaker 7I do think that we need to have the reinstatement of an agency that goes through those processes and pathways because To say that all of them should be removed from our country, I, I don't necessarily agree with, because you have different reasons in terms of asylum or, or, or people that were, you know, came here as illegal immigrants, had a child here Puts them in a different, different category. I don't think there's a, there's a responsible way to say, okay, everybody that's on this side of the line, gone, get out of here. Everybody on this side of the line, you can stay.↗

1:28:30Speaker 7The other side of the line, there has to be some considerations as to, the process there. Citizenship. Are they seeking citizenship or not? I think that if you come here as an illegal immigrant and you have, and you have no desire to be a citizen, and you have no desire to go through the legal process, and you have no desire to contribute to this nation other than just be here and, and, and work, then no, you, you shouldn't be here. But I don't think that's the majority of people that come to the United States seeking↗

1:29:03Speaker 7citizenship. For whatever reason they've come. I, I don't think that's the majority.↗

1:29:10Ian MalcolmUnderstood. And, and I, I, I think, I, I'd take a, I just, I'll, I'll just call it out, I'd, I'd take a differing opinion, it's just because I suppose I'm a protectionist for the people that I believe are already here, that are citizens, et cetera, and I think at the end of the day, their needs, should be prioritized over those that are, are foreign born, and that's not The, the others in the neighborhood, and that seems like a, a reasonable position, but it's also something that we can agree to disagree on, and I can also appreciate that in the position that you're in, in politics, this is an uncomfortable, topic to discuss 'cause there's obviously a lot of heated emotions that come along with it, but I certainly, I very much so appreciate and, and respect, the answer. And with that, I would love to turn things over to Adam, and then to, Uncle Haas, and then we'll go to↗

1:30:00Ian MalcolmSome questions, and we'll try to cycle through. And I see that we've got lots of hands, so I apologize to those that are, are interested in coming up for the delay. but you're a, a very popular man, Mr. Aguilar. Lots of people very excited to ask you questions. So I just wanna, again, thank you for your time, thank you for being here. Again, I would call to everybody just be, please polite in the delivery and in the questioning, and, and just appreciate the fact, again, it's a, a service man who↗

1:30:30Ian MalcolmAppreciate, and I know that Mr. Adam will always be exactly that, but I figured I'd call it out regardless. and with that, Mr. Adam Media, always a pleasure, and Anthony, a wonderful speaker that we have here in the community, one of the biggest voices on this entire platform, especially when it comes to talking geopolitics. So very humbled to have you in here, Adam. And with that, would love, for your question for Mr. Aguilar.↗

1:30:53Speaker 10actually, I didn't have a, have a question, I wanted to clarify something. So, but you can skip me if that's, no, no, no, go, go forward. I would love, love for, always love↗

1:31:01Ian Malcolmfor your takes, my friend.↗

1:31:02Speaker 10No, of course. And, and, Mr. Mr. Aguilar, I, I, I do appreciate, what you've done for, for Gaza and, and your principled stance on, on Israel and Zionism. but anyways, on, on to the topic of, Of, of ice and, and this, you know, controversy that's kind of tearing, America apart, but also tearing, the, the online community apart, and it's causing a lot of, a lot of friction. You know, I feel, I feel like, it's, an important, important angle too.↗

1:31:33Speaker 10to, scope out of this is that, you know, there are other solutions that haven't been considered by Trump. I don't, I don't think that Trump is a, is an honest actor or a,↗

1:31:47Speaker 10I, I just think, I don't think he's telling the truth. I don't think he's acting from, from a place where he wants to get this done, you know, because there are things he could do, such as removing all the incentives. creating and increasing disincentives, going after landlords, going after employers, completely shutting down, the legal immigration pathways. But he's not doing any of those things. And then I, I put something in the, in the nest, which is a post by,↗

1:32:13Speaker 10Marjorie Taylor, Green, MTG, and she's by no means a Democrat or, or a liberal, and she's, she's pointed out some things, which is that the Republicans have funded, you know, six billions, six billion for refugee program alongside DHS appropriations. So, you know, they're funding this, the problem and the solution at the same time, you know? So they're, they're, they're, they're voting for this. Republicans are voting for this. Trump's pu-pushing this forward. You know, so, you know, the bill funds both ICE and refugee programs. You know, and, and I'm not saying I'm against that, but I'm saying that Trump, if he-- based on his vitriol that he spews, based on the rhetoric that he puts out there, and based on the, and the aims that he has, has put out there, he's not doing his, his job effectively. He's doing his job in the worst way possible. Because let's, let's put aside our ideological per- perceptions, you know, Ar- Iran↗

1:33:12Speaker 10Like a couple months, like if you wanna get it done, you can get it done quickly. but he's not doing that. He's doing this half-hearted thing where they're playing hype edits on, on, on TikTok and on X to inflame people and, you know, it seems intentional the lack of training that they're giving to ICE and they're completely ignoring, like I've mentioned, the, the economic, financial,↗

1:33:36Speaker 10methodologies of getting these, deportations done. You know, so as, as Marjorie Taylor Greene says in the, the bill funds doubling H2B visas and deportations at the same time. So what you're, what you're getting, what you're losing of one, you're getting of the other one. You know, he was supposed to put an end to, to, to all of that, but he's not doing that. You know, and she's like, "The Union Party, funds both sides." And I saw another post earlier, this week going over the numbers, and the numbers that they've been spending on ICE↗

1:34:06Speaker 10and the DHS for deportations alone is insane, like, hundreds and hundreds of billions. I, I did, I, I did the numbers on that, and they s-- and they've spent, in the past two years alone, they've spent on de-depo-de- deportations, the divisions that do them, they've spent enough to give twenty million, illegal immigrants↗

1:34:29Speaker 10two hundred thousand dollars to leave. You know, you could, you could give two hundred thou- you could give twenty million people a two hundred thousand dollar bribe to leave by, with the amount of money that they spent over the past two years to do, you know, a fraction of that, a fraction of that. I know self-deportations are high, and they've, you know, got the border running to like a trickle at the moment, but in terms of deportations, you know, they've spent hundreds and hundreds of billions, and I feel like this is more of a kind of, a money, money laundering↗

1:35:02Speaker 10The only thing that's being achieved here is that they are inflaming and galvanizing the, the left. You know, they've got the black Panthers back on the street. You know, the, the left, I've never seen them like this. You know, I can feel like- I can feel the pendulum kind of swinging back. You're, you're giving, you're giving life a lot of, a lot of ammo, a lot of, a lot of energy. And also, there are things that are happening that aren't good in terms of freedom. And I'm not talking about, the stuff that's deba-- people are debating recently. I'm talking about things that are going kind of under the radar, such as Republicans just voted to keep a kill switch in all, in all cars when they're manufactured. To have a kill switch. And also, in terms of deportations now, everyone's ring doorbell, like your do-- like, if you have like a doorbell and a camera in it that's owned by Amazon and, another popular company, they're now gonna be used as, as part of like a surveillance map. And also, they're spending billions on surveillance, billions on physical and social and online surveillance networks to keep a track of, of people. So, you know, these things, they're not gonna go back in the box. Once the deputations are done, that these are, they've created a problem to, and I think they've, they've done it to provide the solution. And that's why I put this post in the nest here, 'cause they, they, they do both sides, you know, they do both, both sides. So I, I think it's, it is important. So I, I wouldn't attack people that are kind of trying to raise this point and call them like, the enemy or call them the leftists, 'cause I think the people who are,↗

1:36:33Speaker 10have an eye↗

1:36:37Speaker 10You can say that they're against deportations, 'cause, you know, like I said, you can, you can do them without sacrificing your freedom and sacrificing your rights and eroding your constitutional privileges, to do it. So I fi- I think that's, you know, we can have a more sensitive conversation around that about becoming enemies, on both the left and the right. I think we can, we can kind of unite around that, you know, 'cause if people have the mandate for deportations, I, I'm not opposed to it, go ahead and do↗

1:37:06Speaker 10it. In terms of what's going on here, you know, and over the next four years, I feel like it, it's going to play out in a way where they haven't been done, but your freedom's gonna be a lot less, and the surveillance states and the surveillance networks are gonna be much more pronounced than they are now. And I'll, I'll end with that, thank you.↗

1:37:26@joann_marieThank you so much for, for everything you said, Adam. I loved it, so I, I really appreciate it. And I wanna welcome my favorite uncle to the stage. Uncle Hans, how are you?↗

1:37:39@mohammedakunjeeI'm good, darling. First of all, I just wanted to say to you, Anthony, that if every American soldier was as stupid and as retarded as you were, I'd be the happiest fucking person in the world. You are the bravest, most courageous Fucking human being on this planet Earth to stand up and do what you did in the face of the fucking shit that you've got from the deep state, CIA, and everyone else for exposing Mossad operations and Hamas and everything else. So I apologize to you on behalf of every other person that had to listen to two people gang up on you and give you fucking shit. You don't deserve it, you need to be treated like a fucking hero because you are a fucking hero. So That's, that's what I wanted to say to you, and that, and I know that what I'm saying to you is about ninety percent of the people that were listening to those questions that were being directed at you and putting you under fucking scrutiny for shit that's really like, you know, motherfucker, I'm just trying to tell my piece and my truth and that's it. So that's out the way. Anthony, the only thing I wanted to ask you, well, not ask you, I wanted to agree with what you said, and I want to basically, again, it's a You hit on a point, the ICE is here for a reason, and, and in my humble opinion as a↗

1:38:59@mohammedakunjeepolitical junkie and a British politician, the ICE is being used as a tool. ICE is a tool to bring chaos onto the streets of America. There are Two or three different ways that you can easily locate, find people who are doing these things, and you can do it a lot quieter than the way ISIS is doing it. ISIS being put in place to do this not as a job, but as a, as a form of,↗

1:39:27@mohammedakunjeeyou know, chaos, forming chaos on the streets to bring about fear, to bring about- Violence to bring fear, intimidation, things that Americans don't really need in their life, but they are being put in place by Stephen Miller. These are the things that Stephen Miller, because what he wants is, and not just him, but the deep state want is, Americans to fight each other, pick a side, be on this side, and now let's just have you all fighting each other instead of Americans turning around and saying↗

1:39:56@mohammedakunjeeThere's fuck all difference in the amount of money I'm making as a white person, to a black person, to any other kind of person, and let's find ways of making these people fight each other instead of looking up and saying, "Who is causing these problems? Who are the ones who are causing these issues? Where is all the fucking money going to? Why is our money going to Israel? Why is our money going into the, the War Department? Why is all of this money not being spent, as Ian says, on the children of America? Why- Why do they not do that? So these things are done as a reason to destroy America first, make it Israel first, and to make sure that everyone's fighting each other instead of that fucking lobby. That's, that's the fight. And ICE is the IDF. Everything they do They have learnt from them. The only thing I wanted to ask you from your personal experience about the training that ICE have with the IDF, do they treat them to dehumanize people the way the IDF are, are trained to dehumanize people? That's the important thing for me to know because it's like,↗

1:41:03@mohammedakunjeeare these people basically trained to be- Just cunts because they think people-- I'm not saying all, all ICE agents, but the attitude they've got towards Palestinians is the, IDF is, they're not human. Is this as part of the training as well? So two or three questions there for you, Anthony.↗

1:41:21Speaker 11Yes, absolutely, and it's not It's not only a part of the training, it is, it is inculcated into the, into the social culture and climate of the people that ICE specifically recruits. And a case in point, when I was in, when I was in Gaza,↗

1:41:44Speaker 11It struck me as odd that there were so many others there that saw nothing wrong with what was going on. And then I put two and two together, and nearly every contractor there except myself and a couple others were specifically recruited because they were members of the Infidels Motorcycle Club, which perceives the worldview that, that Muslims shouldn't exist on this earth. So the dehumanization aspect of it is critical in their conducting of these operations. It's not just a, a cross-training of tactics, techniques, procedures, and systems, it is a cross-breeding of that incessant dehumanizing culture that we not only see the IDF and how they treat Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank But how we see these particular ICE agents treating Americans and our, on our streets, shooting someone in the face and then afterwards calling them an effing B,↗

1:42:49Speaker 11shooting an American in the street and he's dead and you clap with glee. That Set aside the tactics and techniques and procedures. That is dehumanizing view of your fellow American, and it makes killing a lot easier when you dehumanize the other.↗

1:43:12@mohammedakunjeeAnthony, one question would follow up. Do they train them as well to make sure that they don't let ambulances and doctors in to, to help people? Yes. Was that part of the training?↗

1:43:21Speaker 11So for, for example, it's not a-- the, the training scenario isn't okay there's been an incident, go. Step one, don't let any ambulances or medical, medical care in. The training is, when there's an incident like that, you absolutely lock it down, nobody goes in or out. We would look at that in the sense of, "Well, that kinda makes sense." It doesn't apply, nor does it make sense in a domestic policing environment where there's an obligation for medical personnel to render aid to someone that has been gravely wounded or shot, like Renee Good or like Alex Pretty. The IDF don't have those rules because they don't have that in their rules of engagement, in their laws of, or their, their following of the laws of land warfare. They deviate far from it. So in their case, it is lock everything down, no one comes in, no help.↗

1:44:19Speaker 11Whereas how it translates into the training with our ICE agents is that, that they don't know how to make that, that disconnect between, "This isn't a military operation, they're conducting policing operations and serving warrants," where all of the, the, the multitude of, of domestic- Applications apply, like in the case of that doctor that said, "Hey, I'm, I'm a surgeon, or I'm a medical professional, can I go see her? Can I go help?" That doctor is obligated to do that, and that police officer or that law enforcement ICE agent would have been obligated to allow someone to render that individual aid. So it's not necessarily trained in terms of↗

1:45:04Speaker 11"don't let ambulances in," it's trained in a sense of "don't let anybody in." And that translates here in the United States, where you have instances like that, where medical personnel can't come in to help, everyone is treated as the enemy. So it is trained. It's trained as a, as a, as a technique overall, not as a specific tactic, but in the IDF, it is certainly a specific tactic.↗

1:45:32@mohammedakunjeeSounds like the end of the world to humanity, mate.↗

1:45:33Speaker 12That's all I gotta say. Thank you so much, Tony.↗

1:45:37Speaker 11Thank you, sir.↗

1:45:38Speaker 12Sounds like that's their ethos overall, is that this dehumanization is the ethos from which they begin, and then all the training, training follows from there.↗

1:45:51@joann_marieThank you so much, Uncle Haas. I loved your question, and thank you so much, Anthony. Absolutely amazing. Yeah.↗

1:45:58Ian MalcolmAnd Uncle Haas, always. And I, I just wanna call it out again and just thank Adam and Uncle Haas, Dr. Rechtenwald, so many for being here. Really so, so just humbled. and of course, Mr. Aguilar for having you in the room with us. and so, I just wanted to call out, I, I don't know exactly the, the time constraints, Anthony, Of time, willing that you do, and if so, wanna continue through some of these hands, but I just wanted to get a, a pulse check 'cause I, I don't wanna be rude or intrusive. Yeah,↗

1:46:27Speaker 11let's, let's, let's go ahead and continue.↗

1:46:29Ian MalcolmWonderful. All right, perfect. Well then, with that, why don't we go, we'll go to Choose Liberty, and I, I say that, I was gonna go to Mays, but, I know that he's on a very short We got lots of people trying to request for Mike, so, we'll start rotating some individuals through after they ask questions, but it's only just so we can bring up some of the many- I'm gonna↗

1:46:57@mohammedakunjeego down. Thank you, to give room, yeah.↗

1:46:58Ian MalcolmOh, won-wonderful, Uncle Hoss, thank you so much, sir. And, and so with that, let's-↗

1:47:05Ian MalcolmLet's go to, Choose Liberty. And again, a big group love, shout out there to Uncle Haas, one of the absolute superstars, doing a wonderful, job for, for all of us, spreading these truths, as, as best he can. So, Choose Liberty, let's go to you, and then we'll check in with Miss Mays. Yeah, thanks. And also,↗

1:47:21@joann_marieguys, please remember to only do one question, because we do have a lot of hands and a lot of requests as well, so thank you. Sorry, go for↗

1:47:30Speaker 13Yeah, no problem. Yeah, thanks. I'll keep it quick. I got, I'm volunteering at church tonight for youth group, so I gotta get to that in about 12 minutes, but,↗

1:47:39Speaker 13I, I got in kinda late, but I heard, Wolf ask some really dumbass questions, which had nothing to do with anything. but I did want to mention one thing that- You may want to be aware of is the terminology used when talking about immigration, because from my understanding, and I'm not a lawyer, but from my understanding, the,↗

1:48:05Speaker 13term is actually illegal alien. so this undocumented immigrant crap is It's just pandering to the left essentially, which is annoying. Now, you can decide to do that or not, that's fine, but, I don't know, the terms we use, I think, is pretty important. So, I guess what I would ask is, when you were talking about illegal immigration, you kind of led me to believe, and, and, and if I'm misunderstanding your stance, go ahead and correct me, but you kind of led me to believe that↗

1:48:39Speaker 13You're using subjective terminology to determine who deserves to stay when they all came here illegally. 'Cause you mentioned like, "Well, what if they have kids?" Or, "You know, what if they're established?" Or, "You know, like this and that." And, in my opinion, and again, I might be more authoritarian than most, and that's fine, my opinion, I don't really give a fuck,↗

1:49:03Speaker 13why you came here. If you came here illegally, you gotta go. That's my stance. So I guess maybe you could kind of, expand on that or, you know, give your take on that, and I'd just be curious to hear what you think.↗

1:49:18Speaker 11Well, I would say that what I was, what I was speaking about in terms of those that are here as illegal aliens and to leave or not The subjectivity on it is based on what they, what the eligibility for their permanent residency would be if they, if they were to stay. There are some here that are, that, that, that absolutely shouldn't and can't stay because there is no legitimate pathway to citizenship for them. Right now, if we have an immigrant that is, that is, eligible for their permanent resi-residency going through the process And lost that eligibility due to, the lapse in a visa or, a, a lapse in some paperwork, which is the case for a lot-- for, I wouldn't say a lot of them, but many.↗

1:50:13Speaker 11Should we just then kick them out?↗

1:50:15Speaker 13Yes. No, yes. I don't↗

1:50:17Speaker 11think we should.↗

1:50:17Speaker 13Well, that's where we disagree. Okay. That, so that was where the clarification does help me, because if you're talking about expired visas, that's where we differ. So, yeah, I appreciate that. But, I'll drop down so other people can ask questions, but yeah, thanks for fitting me in, Ian, and thanks for answering my question, Anthony. I, I really do appreciate it.↗

1:50:37Ian MalcolmThank you. Yeah, and look, that's, that's one of the, the great things, that we're trying to foster with these conversations is, is allowing individuals with all different perspectives to come in here and, and share their take. And look, for what it's worth, I, I don't think anybody's going to come in with a combative viewpoint and say, "Here's why you're wrong," and ultimately have the other individual that they're discussing these things with leave the room thinking, "Maybe I should reconsider." Right? The, the way that you fundamentally get through↗

1:51:08Ian MalcolmTheir own, et cetera, and, and so I think, what is it? It's, it's honey's far, far more, enticing than vinegar, I suppose. but, but either way, no matter the delivery, I, I, I love that we're gonna try and genuinely allow anybody to come in, share their takes, as long as they're respectfully delivered. and speaking of respectful, I know Miss Mays is always exactly that, so excited to have her. And then what we'll do is we'll, we'll check in, like↗

1:51:38@joann_mariealso with, with Didi, because she introduced me to, Anthony Aguilera, and, and she's friends with him as well, and she's my Palestinian sister, so I, I also wanna go to her. So thank you. I love you, Mace. Go for it.↗

1:51:52@truthtellerftmAnd me too. I love you.↗

1:51:55Speaker 14Okay. So, I just wanted to say, like, when we're talking about the whole immigration problem, it's as if we're not talking about a planned crisis. I mean, the deeper issue is that there's corruption within our government and all of these different international organizations that have facilitated the Hegelian dialect, right? Like even Mayorkas, he was impeached by the House and then it was overturned by the Senate, and there was no accountability there. We're never going for the Accountability at the deeper level, 'cause it's gonna continue to reoccur. Each side, and to Ian's point, oh my god, you were so on point, Ian, like each side of the political party sets up the other side for overreaching policies that half the nation will defend and justify and normalize. and in this case, obviously, it's the surveillance state and, ICE and the solutions, you know, that came from this, that, that's the solutions from this Whole manufactured crisis like we saw on day one. Biden just wrote a whole, I think it was like somewhere like sixty, I don't know, executive orders just kind of lifting everything to let, the influx of immigrants happen. I just wish that people could see, and, and I love Wolf. I think Wolf is, you know, amazing. He came in here, he was talking about very uncomfortable convers- not today, but well, just in general, he came to this app and, talked about very uncomfortable conversations and helped with the- normalizing of us talking about shit that most people wouldn't have talked about. and I think that his concerns are about immigration just in general and about, having more focus on America is very valid. I think a lot of people do have those concerns, but what's so important is to understand that Palestine is merely a freaking pilot, okay? For what's gonna happen across the world. And when I say that, I'm not kidding about the cashless society and the technocracy and the surveillance state. I mean, we have the same People, the Jewish Zionists, all infiltrated within our government. Okay? We have the same, training with the IDF happening with ICE soldiers and, and like just, I mean, with ICE agents, and just like he just said, the numbers are gonna be insane, unlike ever before. And then we have the same type of, you know, the tech and intelligence all integrated. How are people not seeing that? Like, that is the most important thing for people to realize. And last sentence here is that cloud, the cloud pivot- Strategy. I, I'm sure many of you have heard it. By the way, Ian, guess who, Pivon is a part of that small group of people. but it's basically, you know, it's time-↗

1:54:34Ian MalcolmEvery single time.↗

1:54:36Speaker 14I- I- But it's a strategy that is meant to overwhelm the government by allowing in all of these immigrants and giving them welfare basically in order to kind of, if they wanted to do it intentionally to, and, you know, to, like make, to push for system reform. but this is more for system collapse. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. I didn't have any more questions. I just wanted to comment on that stuff before. Thanks for, letting me speak.↗

1:55:04@joann_marieI loved everything you said, Mace. I, it was perfect. So thank you so much. Alright, Michael, Dr. Michael, go ahead, sir.↗

1:55:12@truthtellerftmOh, I'm just, I thought I was next. Oh, sorry. No, that's okay. I can go for it. But I, it's gonna be very quick. Lieutenant Colonel, I just wanna, first off, I am a daughter and wife and mother of veterans, two of those, spent over twenty-four years in service. I live very close to Fort Hood here in Texas, which has been totally zogged out my entire state.↗

1:55:39@truthtellerftmand I do appreciate your service, and I really appreciate that you are fighting to uphold my constitutional rights. there's not too many people anymore I've learned in the last couple of weeks who don't think that our constitutional rights mean anything anymore. there are many people here instead of playing keyboard warrior and hiding behind avatars, I have watched you get out there and fight for all of us, which included being arrested more than once.↗

1:56:09@truthtellerftmthat is a real warrior in this fight. I wish you all the best in your campaign. I'm meeting tomorrow with Greg Stoker. who was on the flotilla, I know you know who that is, and who was taken captive with, by the Israelis in the last flotilla, he was on the Veterans' boat. He is running for Congress here in District thirty-one in Texas, which was announced recently. I'm meeting with his campaign and him tomorrow. Dr. Reckewal in Azapac is going to be a great help to you, and, even though you're not in my state, my family and I will do whatever we can To support you. We need more people like you running for office in this country. I apologize for some of the things that have been said to you, the lack of respect was shocking to me, especially as a veteran, somebody with, in, in the veteran community. so I just wanna thank you for that, and I will say prayers that you have a very successful campaign. That's all I wanna say. I'm honored to be able to just say that to you.↗

1:57:14Speaker 11Well, that's in-incredibly touching and, I incredibly appreciate that. And, you know, yes to the, I, I appreciate Socratic discourse and agreement and disagreement. what I think gets us nowhere is that when one person then characterizes another as either retarded or stupid because of the decisions they've made in their lives as a productive member of society.↗

1:57:41Speaker 11so- Yeah, that, that's kind of, disappointing. But, everyone's entitled to their opinion. And to your point with Greg Stoker, I, Greg, Greg and I were, were together in Minneapolis. We were, we were up there together yesterday, during the press conference. Greg also spoke, I spoke, Greg spoke, Josie Gilbo spoke. so we were all up there together. I've served with Greg, I know Greg well, I fully endorse and support him in his run at Texas thirty-first.↗

1:58:18Speaker 11I think he's gonna do a great job. Another, patriot who saw a lot of the same things that I saw and has come to the same conclusions. and, and I think what sh-what people should appreciate, and I'm not saying this to pat myself on the back, but to appreciate the fact that when- Someone has been a part of the machine and has seen it from the inside and its workings, and has questioned that machine and has come out against that machine, where I could have just stayed quiet, I could have said nothing. I could have said nothing about Gaza and gotten my two thousand dollars a day, and nobody would know the difference, 'cause there's no one there to talk, talk, talk about it. I could have come here and I could see where our country is heading based on my experiences around the world in forty-nine different countries on this planet, and I could just be quiet and do nothing and take my retirement, enjoy my life, and not worry about it. That would be the easy way, but to face-↗

1:59:21Speaker 11Myself and what I've been a part of and what I've done over the last twenty five years, knowing that it's part of the problem, to face that knowingly to come out, when, when someone calls me out and they say, "Oh, well, you served in the military for twenty five years and you're part of the problem, you don't think I'm..." "You're part of the problem," "You don't think I know that?" "Yes, thank you for, thank you for, citing the obvious."↗

1:59:45Speaker 11but until someone makes a time machine, I'm not-- I can't go back and change twenty-five years, but I can use it to my advantage because I know things about how the government functions, how the government runs, the inner workings of how our government spends money and-↗

2:00:00Speaker 15that the majority of the Americans don't know because they haven't seen it. I have. So, there's that. But thank you for your comments, I'm truly humbled by that, and I appreciate your support and, just get the word out, you know, if you're not in North Carolina and you can't vote in North Carolina, help with spreading, the word and the momentum, and thank you. Well,↗

2:00:23@truthtellerftmI definitely will. I have, I have a lot of friends in North Carolina, and I've already been talking to them about you. I did watch your speeches in Minneapolis, and my dad was a Vietnam, Korea War, veteran. he, he warned Before he passed away in two thousand two about the Patriot Act. you know, and what people need to understand is, I see our government nudging us and, and so that we are consenting to being called a domestic terrorist, and people need to understand, once the government labels you as a domestic terrorist, you will lose all of your constitutional rights. You won't have any anymore. So we have to keep up this fight.↗

2:01:06@truthtellerftmyou know, my son is, has, was in ten years and got out. He's the one who helped wake me up, and, and all of his veteran friends doing the same. So there is a big community that is supporting you. Thank you so much.↗

2:01:20Speaker 15Thank you very much.↗

2:01:22Ian MalcolmYeah, great, great set of questions there, Amanda. And with that, let's just keep right on to Dr. Recktenwald, and then we're gonna go down to Mr. Tom.↗

2:01:31Speaker 16Yeah, well, what a bunch of inspiring speakers we've just heard. you know, of course, Anthony and, and Amanda and Mays, just inspiring speakers and have great things to say. Listen, I think we need to get a few things established pretty clearly.↗

2:01:53Speaker 16And I, this speaks to the podcast that Anthony was about to go on. I, I don't know the politics of these people, but I like the name "Punch Up," because what they'd love us to do is punch latterly. They would love us to beat the shit out of each other while they erect a, a police state over our heads. This, this is what they're up to. I mean, I call it domestic Zionism, frankly, what they're doing to us on the, on the level of the state, you know, the society, on our intrinsic domestic policies. This is, you know, and then there's the military part of it, the foreign Zionism, where they're extorting our wealth to kill other people across the planet. This is really what we're up against. So we're fighting, an a fierce opponent. We must be united in punching up at them, because, this is the, the ruling class, and this is not Marxism here. I'm speaking of a ruling class that has control over the state and that has control over the m-mightiest military that's ever existed on the face of the earth. And that ruling class happens to be Zionists. That's who's running it. And we need to get rid of them or we're, we're done. That they are going to continue to deteriorate our, our domestic sphere while extorting our wealth to, to destroy other peoples across the world. That's their whole MO.↗

2:03:20Speaker 16And they break down the integrity of the host, and then, you know, I think this border piece, we should take a look at what's going on over there. They say they will have Authority over more than just Gaza, but this could be your, your base of your reputed so-called one world government right there, centered in the geopolitical headquarters of Zionism, Israel. Let's look at that kind of stuff, that's what we're up against. And, you know, I, I, I wanna say that Anthony,↗

2:03:57Speaker 16you have principles, which is gonna cut- Through so much bullshit, it's incredible, that's the only way to cut through the crap. You stand on principles. There are people that don't stand on principles, they stand on some sort of tribalism of one sort or another, and we know what the most potent and repugnant and pestilential,↗

2:04:24Speaker 16one of these tribalisms is. And that's this Zionist tribalism. These people are dangerous, okay? This is a very dangerous, plan, if-as it were. And, you know, standing on principle, you're gonna get people coming at you occasionally, like we've heard tonight. But that's the price of pay-- that's the price a warrior pays for getting to the truth and standing for what is right. And that isn't the last thing I wanna say.↗

2:04:57Speaker 16We have to be more moral than the enemy. We have to be better than them. We have to be impeccable, because we're speaking for truth, and truth doesn't, has an ethical component as well. Okay? 'Cause when you speak the truth, it actually divides the, the right and the wrong at the same time. So it's both epistemological and it's ethical simultaneously. We have to be those people. I, I don't wanna be too preachy here, but↗

2:05:27Speaker 16I'm gonna be under attack very soon, and I'm ready for it. I have to put on the armor of God. They're gonna come for me now, and it's starting soon, and, I, I don't care because I'm gonna stand on the principles that I do, and, I'm gonna continue to try to find and speak the truth. And, I, I just wanted to say that at, in closing, because,↗

2:05:57Speaker 16it's, it's emotional to, to be-- to do something like Anthony did about Gaza takes so much fortitude and courage and veracity, truthfulness, ethics. That it's incredible. This is the kind of paragon of excellence that we should all seek to be. And that's all I'll say for tonight. It's great to be here. Love you all. Take care.↗

2:06:28Ian MalcolmAnd, and real quick as a, as a quick aside or follow-up, and I, I, I say this, and, and certainly feel free to pass on the question, Anthony, but I, I ask only because of the glowing, recommendation there and, support from, Dr. Recktenwald and Azapac, which obviously has a very clear-cut, mission, which is the rejection of Zionism, not only with what has gone on in Palestine, which, I would define as a genocide, but also Version of the US government to these Zionist forces that appear, I mean, Benjamin Netanyahu said himself, "There's been no better friend, to Israel than Donald Trump." And just prior to that, you had the Biden administration with Tony Blinken, who not only was Secretary of State under that admin, but, is also his, father-in-law is of all things, longtime fami-family friends, with Robert Maxwell, whose daughter, of course, ran Epstein Island, right? So you've got- The Secretary of State, who's in the same room and family friends, with the people prospectively running that pedophile ring, and so I, I just set the question up that way, Anthony, because I, I'd be curious, especially given again the endorsement there from, from Dr. Recktenwald, is it safe to say that you would say, that Zionism has in some way, shape, or form, not only proven a threat and, and conducted open genocide and prospectively had the media lie about it, but that Zionism has also undermined and Essentially hijacked the US government or at least a, a large, aspect of it. Is, is that a fair, fair assumption?↗

2:08:05Speaker 15unequivocally, yes. I feel that Zionism is a existential threat to our security and our independence and our sovereignty and our welfare. I think that Zionism has dug deep roots into our administration in, in the capital, in our legislative, executive, and judicial branches. in aspects of our society with our social media, and I am anti-Zionist,↗

2:08:32Speaker 15and I say that clearly, and I say that knowingly, I am not anti-Semite, I am not anti-Jew, I am anti-Zionist in terms of, what Zionism has become, and I do believe that it is a threat to our nation.↗

2:08:50Ian MalcolmNo, and I, I certainly appreciate that. And again, in, in these rooms, we try to be very specific with verbiage, for what it's worth. I mean, I, I, I believe that it goes a little bit beyond, well, actually, a lot beyond, Zionism, and I just call that out because I don't wanna be disingenuous with, with my, I, I, I believe that it is Jewish supremacy. But, the thing that's wild, and, and I just wanna call↗

2:09:20Ian MalcolmFor peacefully, accurately, and factually discussing what I believe to be the undermining of the Western world by this entity, we, we said a year, two, three ago, I, I made the statement actually, I believe it was the beginning of last year, I said, by the end of this year, this will be a mainstream talking point in, on at least one mainstream network. And sure enough, by year's end last year, you had Tucker Carlson discussing the challenges of Zionism, pushing back very heavily, on Ted Cruz. and so these things have happened. We also said last year that for the midterm elections, there would be people who would openly call out what is essentially a Zionist occupation of the United States. And so to be able to not say, "Yeah, we were right," but rather to be able to thank you for having not only the courage to stand up and suggest it, the fortitude to go out and state that proudly as you're running for, for office, but also for us to build this growing alliance and community because- the truth of the matter is, whatever comes out of your election, this is going to be a, a talking point that if you infuse into the public discourse, people will have To address it, your opposition will have to address it. And the craziest part is if you merely speak the facts, like, oh, I don't know, some of the ones that I just mentioned, or the fact that Howard Lutnick, who's sitting right next to Donald Trump as his Secretary of Commerce, just happened to be next door neighbors with, oh, I don't know, Jeffrey Epstein in New York. Isn't that weird? His sister, Edie, also just happened to be on the board of TerraMar with Joanne Maxwell. What a, what a weird coincidence. Almost Like the two of them are familial friends with the Epstein-Maxwell connection, just like Tony Blinken, weird. And the reason that I bring that up is because if we have a single politician who can demand national media attention like you can in their campaign and can say to the American people, "Is that weird?"↗

2:11:21Ian MalcolmIs it weird that there are all these strange ties, not just Epstein and Maxwell, but why has Benjamin Netanyahu visited Donald Trump more times than any presidential or national leader in recent, if not, let's say, over several decades worth of history? If you go and you ask Grok, what, what world leader has visited a US pres-- sitting president more than any other, it will tell you Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump. Is that weird? Is it weird that that same guy sat at New Year's next to Donald Trump and Mar-a-Lago, "Yeah, we did it! "and then just shortly thereafter, kidnapped the president of Venezuela? The United States has been hijacked, there's no way around it. And so I say this just because if we do find ourselves in a yesterday where people were willing to push these conversations into the discourse, like Candace Owens and like Tucker Carlson, and if tomorrow we have individuals that are looking to be real world shakers and movers in a political front that advances these causes and moves them from the far, let's say, echo chambers of radical online discourse where we'd be- called antisemites for merely calling out really unusual patterns to having it come mainstream. Anthony, I tell you this because nobody will be able to deny it. Whoever your opposition is, if they sit there and just lie about these things, anybody that listens to the debate that you will presumably have with them, they'll go and they'll do the homework. Not everybody, but a lot of people. And when they do, and they recognize, wait a second That Anthony Aguilar is onto something. Why have I never heard this from the media? Not only does it make them question your candidate or your opposition, but also makes them challenge this entire narrative and their control that they have over everything. And that's how we break the matrix. Not saying that with any kinetic violence to anything, but that's how we bring down these walls, the, the fog that everybody is living under. That's how we remove the curtain from which the wizard is hiding behind. and so I think you sincerely, the, the, the vigor and the confidence with which you just made that statement is unbelievably encouraging, exciting for everybody that's in this room that feels this plight is, is impossible. Just know leaving this conversation that we are making monumental strides thanks to heroes like Anthony, who's willing to make those types of comments while running for office. with that being said, I know, we're gonna go to Tom. I also wanna bring attention, to an individual that I just brought up onto the panel. This is actually not my favorite, Adam, and, no offense, to the other Adam who just joined us here, but Adam Media, certainly my favorite Adam on the platform. But I, I do, after we go to Tom, I wanna go And I'm just gonna set the stage because, again, that power structure that I was just describing, it seems like it's resulting in people even losing, not just, for example, their reputation, but even their jobs here in the United States, which brings, undeniably a threat to the prosperity of individuals merely seeking to either bring the truth, to spread that truth, or to call out prospectively a domestic threat that is essentially subservient to a foreign one. so with that, let's go to Tom, and then we're gonna go down to Mr. Adam. We'll continue bouncing around the, the panel here.↗

2:14:37Speaker 17Thanks, Ian. Extremely well said as always. brilliant points, very well explained, and people need to understand this stuff and, and tie it all together. But yeah, look, w-what Anthony's doing, to his credit, it's extremely brave. You know, what I'm doing here, I, I kind of touch on the surface level issues as much as I can without getting too controversial, and I am weary of this power structure. I'm not an idiot. And no, there's no question. I mean, what he's touching on by discussing the food distribution issues and other things that are taking place inside of Gaza requires a tremendous amount of,↗

2:15:07Speaker 17fortitude. So yeah, I just wanted to recognize that very quickly. Look, one, one of the-- and I have a couple of amazing questions I wanna throw his way, but I think I'll leave it for another opportunity because there's something just really important that I wanna share with everybody because it pertains to this issue.↗

2:15:19Speaker 17look, a lot of the things that I've heard people in the administration say about ICE, coupled with some knowledge of history and common sense, make it so that I see no way to look at ICE, you know, as, as, as anything other than as a tremendously effective bait and switch and everything, bait and switch, Trump administration and everything that means loyal militarized police force or, or loyalist militia, kind of like the Chavistas in Venezuela. Yeah, I would implore all of you to take a look at videos of the colectivos in Venezuela and the way they enforce brutally any demand of the administration to Brutalize, beat up, kidnap, and imprison anyone who's being critical of the regime without having to mar the reputation of the national police or the military. So they're doing the same thing here, the only difference is they're giving them a more official look, you know, uniforms, all this, some training, but don't get it twisted, what I described is exactly what's going on, and this is extremely important for people to realize because↗

2:16:25Speaker 17None of us enjoy TSA groping stations, correct? And all these screenings post 9/11, I'm sure of that. So here's what you guys can look forward to now. I'm one hundred percent certain that, among other things, like serving as a system to eventually implement normalized nationwide checkpoints, to normalize concepts like fifteen minute city, city dystopia, to violate the Fourth Amendment wherever,↗

2:16:49Speaker 17whenever, and to whoever, the Israelis Trump administration people or Palantir AI deem it convenient to do so too. This, this is meant to normalize state violence against US citizens, but it's not even-- I think this is a Trump administration construct, at least it's been transformed into one, and that means Trump administration and whoever is part of that power structure, interpret that however you will. This is also something that should worry gun owners a great deal, because what better organization and system with which to wage a very discreet gun grab campaign or war on the Second Amendment than through, you know, than through normalized IDF-trained militarized nationwide checkpoints and egregiously criminal allowances that seek to normalize, violating the Fourth Amendment, the extreme of normalizing?↗

2:17:46Speaker 17Unwarranted home searches, groping of people that they're gonna have the unfortunate luck of running into these guys, to normalize dehumanization, to normalize demoralization 'Cause it is demoralizing. When somebody stops you, you're, you're living your life, you're not violating any laws, and you're stopped and made to feel like you're a criminal by people that are, you know, trained by the IDF to treat you like an enemy combatant in your own country. That is a dehumanizing experience. And so this is a bait and switch scam to get people↗

2:18:26Speaker 17On the right and Trump loyalists applauding the nascent system that at this point I'm certain, if allowed to, will be used to chip away at all of our most vital rights, including, or perhaps I should say especially, the Second and Fourth Amendments. This is the effort to placate and pacify gun owning US citizens with the thought we're gonna deport people, which we're not doing, by the way, that will morph into the power enforcement tool of tyranny. That will, if allowed to, strip the people blindly and foolishly in favor of this activity of their most valued rights, and this is so obvious that it literally hurts my brain, guys. Everybody doesn't understand this, it's so obvious. But anyway, thanks guys, I appreciate it.↗

2:19:15@joann_marieThank you so much, Tom. I, I loved everything you said and I agree with everything, and I really appreciate it. before we go to Adam, I just wanna say hi to my sister, Dee Dee, who is also a really good friend, and she introduced me to Colonel, Anthony. So, Dee Dee, my love, how are you? Go for it, and then welcome to Adam.↗

2:19:37Speaker 18Hi guys, I'm not gonna cut this space, I swear, I swear, I'm not cutting lines. Can everybody please go down to the purple field? Ian, thank you for hosting the space. What a great guest speaker, hi Colonel Aguilar. and hi Eric, it's so nice to see you up here too, although I don't hear you go, going off, hopefully you're don't- Dee Dee, my friend. Hey brother, how you doing? So, I am really excited to be here, guys, go down to the purple field, this is a very↗

2:20:06Speaker 18We, aren't doing anything to help us, but here's what I'm gonna ask you, Colonel Aguilar, and it's only one question. Well, actually, I'm gonna say two. I'm gonna make a comment. Remember when I told you that you'd be back on social media, and you told me, "Nah, it's not for me." Yeah. I told you. Yeah. I told you, sir, but you know what? This is the good fight, so I'm glad you're here. I do have a question for you, and it's one. How can we help you? Because we talk about all the problems that you're doing, so how can we help you to accomplish the goals that we want to get done?↗

2:20:43Speaker 15Keeping, you know, so there's, you know, in terms of, of me as a candidate, I would love everyone's direct- Yes, sir. Direct support, but I understand that not everybody can vote for me because you don't live in North Carolina 13. I understand that not everybody can, can donate money or time. But in addition to all that, it's keeping these conversations like this happening, like the conversation that has been,↗

2:21:09Speaker 15shared over this last, Two and a half hours almost has been, professional and Socratic and, and fair, and we've had conversations where, whether we agree or disagree, we're still having a conversation. I can assure all of you that there are things that I will walk away from this, that I, that I will think about differently, that I will research and look up to understand. I'm not saying that it's, it's changed my perspective, but it's, in a way, it's informed me of, to look at things perhaps Differently. These are those conversations we need to keep having. The, the vitriol and the rhetoric of, "Well, you're wrong, and you'll never be right, and you're wrong, and you'll never be right, and it has to be this way, or, or, or it's wrong, and if it's not this way, then it's wrong," and we're never going to accomplish anything like that as a country, and that's exactly what our administration wants us to do instead of working on the things that we can all work on together. So having conversations like this↗

2:22:09Speaker 15Because I am very, social media, unskilled, helping with the social media in terms of, you know, pushing out my message, doing, doing follows, and doing reposts, and doing, you know, whatever the, the different functions. I'm also now on, on, Upscroll, so I'm over there now too. so just supporting me by keeping the, keeping the message going, keep talking about↗

2:22:37Speaker 15Palestine, because What we're seeing there, we will see here. Keep talking about what we're seeing here. Keep talking about the hard topics, like, you know, the, the, the discussion of immigration, the discussion of, of a police surveillance state. Have those hard conversations that we're having. And, because it, it, it-- you have to, you have to commit time to that. Everybody has spent time doing this. So continuing these conversations, continuing to be outspoken, supporting people that are out there doing it. I recognize that I'm somewhat in a unique position, in that↗

2:23:12Speaker 15if I get smeared and, and, and, and totally doxed and destroyed,↗

2:23:20Speaker 15I'm, you know, my, my wife of eighteen years is still gonna be here with me, my dog is still gonna like me, I'm, I'm still gonna get paid my, my retirement, they-- I can't be fired, I can't be, N-nothing that anyone says to me is going to hurt my feelings. I can be arrested in the halls of Congress and I'm not going to lose my job. so I can be out there kind of on the front lines punching, punching up,↗

2:23:48Speaker 15and I need everybody In their own way, whether it's through social media, whether it's through donating, whether it's through, if you're local and you can commit time to knocking on doors and doing field work or just spreading the message and being supportive, all of those things would, would greatly, greatly, greatly help me and others, you know, like, like Greg, like Butch Ware.↗

2:24:11Speaker 18That's amazing. And I know you're not gonna do this for yourself, 'cause I know your page, and I know you're not gonna put your campaign link. but text it to me, and I'll put it down in the purple pill so that everybody can, please, if you have the ability to, I contribute to Thomas Massey's campaign. There's no way in hell I'm not gonna contribute to Colonel Aguilar's. We talk, we talk this, guys. So maybe if you can, skip a cup of coffee, donate the ten dollars, so that's the best campaigning↗

2:24:41Ian MalcolmYeah, no, of course. And, and Dee Dee, speaking of, support, I wanna make sure everybody, please give, Mr. Anthony Aguilar, please give him a follow, please check out his page, engage with some of that content, and I say it because, in this network, for some reason, even if you follow people, they end up not on your For You page unless you interact with a lot of their content. It's almost like, oh, I don't know, maybe there's a power structure trying to force-feed you other↗

2:25:10Ian MalcolmSo please make sure to do that. as the next speaker, I-- and, and then we're gonna go to, to Dr. Recktenwald. But real quick, I wanna check in, and, and offer perhaps a little bit of storytelling and, and Mr. Aguilar, I, I bring up, this individual, Adam, just to set the stage a little bit. We did a space not too long ago.↗

2:25:29Ian Malcolmwhere merely for not only expressing his voice and critiquing what he thought was unrighteous, let's say, affronts to individuals' privacy, and to their freedom of speech on college campuses, promptly found himself, at loss not only of his reputation, but also of his job. And, I bring this up because I think it might serve as a microcosm for what we may see here in the United States, where the administration seeks to seemingly, squash, the, the not only- freedoms of speech, but also your freedoms of expression, and as we saw on college campuses, freedom to essentially gather together for the use of those voices for, for public displays, and, and so Adam, if, if you wouldn't mind maybe giving us sixty or ninety second rendition of that story, and then we can see, what Anthony thinks perhaps could be done within the political machine or using his voice to try and bring attention to what appears like, suppression, censorship, and criminalization of, of your freedom of speech.↗

2:26:27Speaker 19Absolutely. So first of all, I want to thank you, Ian, and I want to thank everybody in the platform, especially Michael and the other Adam, who's been helpful, and Joanne, of course, I can't thank you enough. But, going forward in my story, I was a police officer. I eventually worked for a university police department, and what happened was the students wanted to advocate for Palestine. Several students, they wanted to advocate for what was going on in Gaza, and, there was no credible threat. They had done nothing wrong. They obtained permission from↗

2:26:57Speaker 19Department came to me and only me because I was Palestinian and I'm Muslim, and they asked me to conduct counter surveillance on these students. So I refused and I stood my opposition. I said, "You know, this was wrong. This was only based on the fact that they are Palestinian." They said, "Absolutely. You know, we view them as a threat." I mean, these were the exact words they used. "And we see them, you know, as pot-potentially setting off explosives within this rally and just inciting riots and stuff." So I spoke out against it. I↗

2:27:26Speaker 19said it Over and over through my tenure there. So ultimately what happened to me was, I endured a pattern of harassment for the next two, three years while I was there, and it continued to grow and grow and grow. And eventually I was terminated, and when I was terminated, I tried to challenge my termination and basically fight the university and fight the police department, and ultimately they destroyed my career, they took my livelihood away, and they made it to where it's basically almost impossible for me to even work at a job like McDonald's. And that's the current situation I'm in. you know, I've got lawyers involved, and it's a whole ordeal. If you look at my page, my stories there, you know, support any way you can, I would really appreciate it. But that's the situation I'm kind of in right now.↗

2:28:13Ian MalcolmAnd so, Anthony, I'm curious within, your, purview, if, if, if elected, how you envision that perhaps we could try to put some, guardrails so that again, an individual who says, "No, I, I don't feel comfortable despite being law enforcement spying on individuals merely because of their ethnicity," which seems like a, a drastic, not only overreach, but also, of course, profiling, there's a number of other things we could label that, but, it, it did but in defense of this Zionist machine that seems to just have way too much control, and through things like the ADL is weaponizing, seemingly the law against people even speaking or expressing the truth. So I'm kind of curious if you have any thoughts on that situation, or what perspective you think that, folks in Washington could do to try and, and prevent that from happening.↗

2:29:02Speaker 15So first of all, yes, speaking out, especially on the topics of, of the genocide or anything that might be seen as an affront to Zionism or the Zionist underlords, is risky and it's costly, and it, it, and it, it's the reality. but there-- those that are courageous to still push forward, knowing the risk, that's, that's what it's going to take. Now What-- one of the things that I'm going to do, if I, if I am elected to Congress, one of the things that I am going to make it a point to do every day possible I think it's really important for members of Congress to keep their constituents directly informed. And the reason I mean that directly in that, not going to my website or not seeing what I voted on on C-SPAN, but, you know, when I go up to, to Congress as a congressman, I'm not gonna have a magic wand to just say, "I think that we should not have Zionist influence in our government," 'cause, "Aham." It, it takes legislation. You have to, you have to introduce resolution. And, and in doing that,↗

2:30:14Speaker 15I intend to, to push very heavily on, on legislature, not just talk about it, but put my name on it, put letters to paper, my name on it, sign it, get others onto it. That comes at a cost in Congress a lot, because you either have to be, faithful to the party or to who's paying your bills or to APAC and You know, for example, I went to, spoke to a, a, a representative from California, and this individual isn't signed on to HR thirty-five sixty-five to block the bombs to, to stop sending the offensive munitions to Israel. And when I talked to him, boy, he said everything, everything that he believed↗

2:31:03Speaker 15mirrored that's what's in that HR. And one of the Doctors Without Genocide representatives that was there was like, "Then why haven't you signed it?" And he's like, "Well, you know, it's complicated." Those complications often come through, your, your, your other ties, like what, what you're beholden to in terms of who, who you answer to, and I wanna make sure that I am grounded in answering to the American people, so I'm gonna push very hard to draft and propose House resolutions. That's what, that's what a representative does in legislature. We, we propose law, and then fight for that law for our constituents. So I'm gonna do a lot of that. I'm gonna do that aggressively and energetically, but I'm also gonna try to-- I will do things to, to be able to communicate to my constituency base directly, like, "Hey, today, in Congress..." HR resol- HR House Resolution one two three four five was brought to the floor and it wasn't voted on. Here's what that means to you back home, because quite honestly, many of us aren't informed or made aware of these processes, and it seems like a mystery to people. It seems like this Washington, D.C. is this faraway land that only the important and special and powerful people and- That's our house. The capital, that is, that is our house, that is the people's house. And if I'm, as an elected official, I, I work for the people. You are my boss, and so I wanna stay tied into that. So as a congressman, I can see,↗

2:32:37Speaker 15and just based on, from twenty-five years in the army as an officer, you know, you have to be, very proactive in your, as a leader, and I can see myself energetically doing, doing a lot of A lot of roll up your sleeves grunt work, so to speak, in, in, in house terms of, of a lot of legislating, a lot of, caucusing, getting behind things that my constituents want,↗

2:33:04Speaker 15and, and being a direct communicator to my-- I kinda had this idea like every day, every day at that close of business, I'll send my staff home, I'll close the door, and I'll do a like a little three minute live that says like, "Hey, North Carolina 13, here's what, here's what I, to be up here in Congress. I did one, two, and three. Your, your priorities. There isn't enough accountability. There isn't enough accountability in our government, and I want to be accountable to my constituents. I want to be accountable. I want my con- my, my, my constituencies to hold me accountable to the things they voted for me to go to DC to do. I want that accountability, and I want to be proactive, and I want to inform people what's happening because I think that's what gives-↗

2:33:51Speaker 15The citizens of our nation, that's what, that's what makes us, that's what gives us our power, is knowing what's happening, not being lied to, knowing that as the people, that we can hold our government accountable and there will be consequence for that. I wanna bring that back, so I wanna be held accountable, and I wanna be informative, and I wanna do hard work.↗

2:34:16Ian MalcolmNo, very well stated, and, very wonderful question, and, I'm, I'm very glad that Adam was able to come up and speak about that. with that, let's go to, Dr. Michael, and then we're gonna go over to Mr. Godfrey, and then down to Let Me Be Frank.↗

2:34:30Speaker 16Yeah, I tried to encourage people to help Adam out, this guy was fired for, for standing up to the Zionist regime in his university. That's, that takes a tremendous amount of courage. And he needs our support. Azapac can't really give him money directly, I personally have, but we can't give him money, it's not a proper use of our funds, but we would if we could.↗

2:34:58Speaker 16but we will be doing a lot of grunt work for Anthony, I can tell you that right now. We'll be doing media for him. He, you know, he, he, we, we, we don't coordinate that, but we're, we're allowed to actually because the kind of PAC we are, we're allowed to actually coordinate with the candidates, but we'll be promoting him, and this announcement will be official soon. It'll come out on the website, on the Azapac, X handle, then it'll end, he'll end up on the Azapac↗

2:35:27Speaker 16And I encourage people to go to that and, we just had added some features to the site. I added a essays, section, and I know we have a lot of researchers here, Mays, Eric, et cetera, and Anthony maybe, and since he has so much knowledge about the IDFication of the American mil- the American police. we would love to hear from you. Write essays and submit them to me directly. We, we want researchers. We were trying to create something like a think tank at the same time as being a PAC. A think tank that attacks this problem, the rhetoric, the money flow, the military training, the, the IDFication of the American,↗

2:36:16Speaker 16government altogether, the Zionization of the American political system, anything on those, along those lines, please contribute. We wanna make this more of a community project, we're trying to run it with a very small staff, but, we welcome all those people that wanna contribute. Contribute in some way. Thank you so much. And, and, thanks for letting me speak so much. I didn't mean to be a hog, but I'm so excited about Anthony here that I, I couldn't help but,↗

2:36:45Speaker 16come in and give my support and make that announcement. Take care, everybody. I'm gonna go now.↗

2:36:52Ian MalcolmWell, Dr. thank you so much. First and foremost, you never have to apologize for anything. The microphone is always yours. feel free to stay up if you do have the time, if you gotta drop, completely understand that as well, but, but do not, do not relinquish that voice, my friend, on this space, ever due to the amount of time, because you, you are a hero in this movement. with that, let's go to, Mr. Godfrey. And, also very excited, I wanna,↗

2:37:22Ian MalcolmAnd would be very curious for some of his thoughts as well. but let's, let's check in with Mr. Godfrey and then, we'll go to Let Me Be Frank.↗

2:37:36@joann_marieGodfrey?↗

2:37:40@joann_marieI'm gonna recycle him.↗

2:37:42Ian MalcolmI think, yeah, I think you might be, disconnected there. We'll, we'll bring Mr. Godfrey back up. And I apologize, Mr. Frank, I think Cam has actually been in here a little bit longer, so we'll go Cam, then we'll go over to Let Me Be Frank, and we'll see if we can get Mr. Godfrey up here.↗

2:37:58Speaker 20Hey, Ian, thanks so much. Can everyone hear me okay? Yeah, you're welcome. Awesome. Thank you, Joanne. Thank you, Ian. Guys, please follow the, the hosts and the co-hosts. some great individuals up here. Anthony, thank you for taking the time to come and, and speak in the space. I want to wish you luck on your, your congressional campaign, and I wish you the best. my question is in regards to ICE,↗

2:38:23Speaker 20my question is this specifically. If ICE is abolished, hypothetically, what specific agency would you have, or would you believe have, to replace its enforcement role immediately? I know you mentioned INS was dismantled back in two thousand and three, but, I mean, and I'm sure most people, as if they do a little bit of research into this, will find that INS was not deporting illegals to the tune that they should have been, which is why they were split up into three different, sections of government. But that being said,↗

2:38:59Speaker 20being that INS had failed, at its enforcement and security, you know, we're currently dealing with forty to fifty million people that are here unlawfully Which are, which is significantly higher than in two thousand and three or even in the late nineties or early twenty-tens even. so concretely, I'll ask the question this way. Who enforces immigration law and-- or who do you believe enforces immigration law? And how are those numbers reduced without amnesty effectively, ending immigration enforcement or, without a significant or moderate number of, unfortunate side casualties? Penalties as a result of enforcement. thank you for the, for your time. If you need the question restated, just let me know.↗

2:39:47Speaker 15No, great, great question. And the, you know, when we look at the, the, a piece that you said there in terms of the, is the idea or the notion of doing something, but then how does doing it not make the situation worse? when you're, you know, when you're trying to, to, to treat the infection, how do you not make it worse, but you wanna be aggressive against what you're trying to treat? if you were looking at it from like a medical perspective, but I think if you look at, you know, so in the United States, immigration law is enforced by the Department of Homeland Security. I, I don't suggest that we abolish the Department of Homeland Security. Under the, the main function under Department of Homeland Security is US Customs and Border Protection, or CPB, and they, they control security ports of entry, as we all know, and then you have US Immigration, Customs Enforcement, ICE, under that as well. So↗

2:40:46Speaker 15the INS function can, should be re-implemented And we can replace ICE by restructuring the functions of ICE already existing in the agencies like the, the, the CP, the, the CPB, shifting a lot of those responsibilities or some of those, obligations, to the state level, implementing alternatives, I would say to, I mean I can't imagine the cost that goes into,↗

2:41:25Speaker 15the mass, the, the mass deportations when you, you deport someone and then, a few days later they, they, they find their, their way back across the border. It's costing so much, so we also have to have a, a change in, in how we man And control, our borders, especially the, the, the gaps, if you will, you know, there's certain points along the Tex-- and I grew up in South Texas, very familiar with, with South Texas. There's places that you really don't need to put much resource into 'cause no one's gonna cross there, but I think we-- the, the abolishment of ICE is absolutely possible, and we already have structure existing within the Department of Homeland Security that can be↗

2:42:15Speaker 15reformed as well within that to execute the function, in a, in a better way. I, I just think that ICE, in its, not, but, not its function, but in its form, is beyond reform. The function, of course, we need. The form that it's taken on, I believe, is beyond reform at this point. And we, we need to restructure those Agencies and responsibilities under DHS and ICE shouldn't not be↗

2:42:52Speaker 15a part of it. I mean, not, again, not the function, I just the, the form and what it's become over twenty-two years since its inception, in the global war on terror, is, is not fulfilling its, its role in an effective way. I, I think.↗

2:43:23@joann_marieDid, did he get off or did he land? No, I think↗

2:43:27Speaker 15that- Yeah, I think that was the case. Yeah, that's it, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's my thoughts.↗

2:43:32Ian MalcolmPerfect. Well, thank you, Cam, so much for that question. very well stated. really appreciate the, the delivery. with that, let's go to, Mr. Let me be Frank.↗

2:43:42@warsawerikHey guys. real quick, I hate to interject, but, Anthony Aguilera, you, you do have a, a thing in fifteen minutes, too. Yeah. So I'll do, I'll do↗

2:43:50Speaker 15five more minutes and then I'll just, quickly switch over to Punch Up. I mean, my, I↗

2:44:00@warsawerikNo, you're a good man. Okay, no, I just wanted to, make sure that, you know, no, no time was lost. Yeah, this is, this is very good conversation.↗

2:44:07Speaker 15I really do appreciate the questions, the insight, the professionalism of people that are asking the questions and the dialogue, and, believe me, I know that we, that we all don't agree on all topics, but we're still having a good conversation. So go, let's, let's, mister, mister, let me be frank.↗

2:44:24Speaker 21Yeah, I guess. Thanks for the mic. wonderful, wonderful to be here, awesome panel. Ian, thanks for putting this on. Mr. Aguilar, I, I commend you and your selfless, devotion in, in this, in this field that you're going into, you know, There's a saying I like to say, you know, no man stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child, and it's similar, similar to that in, in, in civil public service, you know, to the community.↗

2:44:59Speaker 21and I just wanted to say, I don't really have a question, but I just wanted to say that, yeah, I was born in '68, I served in the military as well. I saw, I saw what our military was doing, I became very disillusioned with everything, kind of blackp Quite a while back. I, I've seen, you know, I've seen the destruction of our, of, of our nation from all angles, whether it's through the dollar, what have you. And, I just, you know, I just wanted to implore, and I'll make it quick, that I, I used to, I used to hate learning about history. I'd fall asleep in class. Now I can't stop, because everything I learned was actually incorrect. I had to go back and, and see what the real story was. And I just wanna implore you, you know, you know, whatever history you know, make sure, you know, make sure it's what you know is correct. And learn as much as you can about it, because that's how you understand the world you're in and where we're headed.↗

2:46:02Speaker 21I feel like we're in a, we're in an existential crisis at this point, all of us. And, and hopefully with, with good people like you, we can, we can avert anything. But, yeah, thanks for letting me speak.↗

2:46:19@joann_marieThank you so much, let me be frank. Oh, sorry, go for it, Anthony.↗

2:46:23Speaker 15Oh, I, I was just coming back on in case there was a, a follow-up that I would, I wouldn't be on accidentally on mute, but, thank you for that comment, sir, and I wholeheartedly agree, with your advice in terms of continuing to learn, learn history, the, the true history, not just what's been, 'cause you, you are right, I too have been going back through, through History lately,↗

2:46:48Speaker 15a lot of history lately, like the, the Treaty of Westphalia, the, the Seix-Picot, the, you know, all of these treaties and all of these policies, the Monroe Doctrine, and just reading all of this stuff to, to read it myself, not just what someone has told me, so I absolutely agree with that and that continue to, seek learning and educating and be humble enough to know that,↗

2:47:11Speaker 15You may have been wrong, like I'm humble enough to know that for twenty-five years in serving in the military, I was not serving the ideals of which I thought I was. I, I, you have, you have to have a certain level of humility to accept that. So, but then what comes with that is the, is the yearning and the desire to learn the truth And that's really my position in all this as a citizen of our nation, as a fellow citizen that wants to run for Congress because I, I want to, I want to, to serve, 'cause I, I agree that I feel we're at a point of an existential crisis, but I know that we as a people, as Americans,↗

2:47:51Speaker 15won't-- we don't have to let this be, our-- This isn't a fait accompli. It's on the horizon, but we can prevent it, and it's gonna take good people working hard, like everyone here on this panel giving time and being educated and being informed. Being educ-in-Being informed is hard work. It's easy to just take what, what legacy media or a platform will just feed you and accept that as truth. It takes hard work to be informed. So everybody on this panel, that seems to be very informed, that takes hard work, that's not an accident. So,↗

2:48:30Speaker 15I agree with you completely and thank you for that input.↗

2:48:35Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and Anthony, I, I fully agree with you on that one. And look, the, as Mark Twain said, it's far easier to fool a man than to convince him that he's been fooled. And there's a lot of people that are happy to live in foolish ignorance, right? And so for you to be up here and make that suggestion, look, there's a lot of uncomfortable truths in the world, that, that people have been blinded to, and, and we're trying to bring those to as many as we can, because↗

2:49:03Ian MalcolmHow much money you make, or even, I suppose, how high you rise in the ranks of, of whatever fictional company it is that they might put in front of your eyes to keep you, unaware of the fact that you just live in essentially a simulation. And while we might not be in a computer game, most of the world around us is essentially that. It's a, it's a fabrication, a lie. in the interest of trying to get through all these hands, I know Anthony said he needs to leave here momentarily. What I wanna try and do↗

2:49:33Ian MalcolmI try to keep the questions extremely condensed, and we will see if Anthony can answer each one in thirty seconds or less. Ready, set, Godfrey, go.↗

2:49:41@g0dfr0yThank you, sir. Thanks, Colonel Aguilar, for coming on. I really appreciate all you're doing. when you spoke about Trump mentioning his third term, that's something I talk about all the time on my spaces. I don't think he's leaving power. I think he's gonna seize power in some kind of coup in America, and I think that's evident by his policies. He, everything he's doing seems to be to burn the place down almost by design. The one that really stands out to me, other than calling up Sina Hoek and covering it up and these World War three provocations, was having the terrorist Akmal al-Shara over to the White House on the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the Marine Corps. So th-this man is cementing himself in power. I, I can't even believe that he is using the word midterms when he is taking Venezuela in the dead of night, threatening Greenland with mill- Military provocation. And when you consider like what ICE is doing and what they're, the, the situations that they're being put into, they're not wearing police headlights, they don't have proper police signage, they are wearing ski masks like we're in Mexico.↗

2:50:49@g0dfr0yAnd, and then you s- you, you know about these National Guard rollouts. Do you share my concern that this man is behaving in a way where he doesn't care about elections? And that the people behind him, like Steven Miller, when he says we're gonna invoke plenary power, do you share my concern that they might try to take America by force?↗

2:51:17@joann_marieMaybe, Anthony, you're, you are muted. Maybe you're talking to me. Oh, I said if we go, if we↗

2:51:21Speaker 15wanted to go on to the next one, so we're kinda doing the speed round, and I'll just wrap up by answering them all.↗

2:51:26Ian MalcolmOh, okay, perfect. so we got one question on deck. let's go Game of Thrones. Fifteen seconds or less. please throw out your question, then we're gonna go to, Mulvihill.↗

2:51:36Speaker 22Simply stated, first of all, Anthony, thank you for your fiery campaign, literally. very much appreciated. But my question is How are you gonna basically take on the APAC lobby that is, essentially, strangling all legislation? In our capital and in our government, and that would be, that would be it, basically. That's it. Oh, that's a,↗

2:52:03Ian Malcolmthat is a wonderful question, Game of Thrones. How, how would he address all the corruption, in particular that of the Zionist lobby, Melboro? got a question real quick for Anthony, and then we'll try to have him re-answer all of them simultaneously.↗

2:52:15Speaker 23Well, this is actually Marco Borno, I'm, Anthony Aguilar, campaign manager, and I want to thank you, and Eric and↗

2:52:27Speaker 23And, supporting him in everything. Your guys are amazing, and as Anthony was saying that we, we are learning from the history, but at the same time, we are writing the future right now, and the future that we need, we need people like Anthony, like Greg, like everybody needs to stand up and start supporting them, and the most we can support, especially for out of our area, if we can't volunteer,↗

2:52:57Speaker 23Here, please try to donate anything, to the campaign, because we really need it right now, because we don't accept, fund from corporate PAC, at all. It's just a small donation, it's, it's the party actually, it's a campaign from the people to the people. So it isn't something we can, ask, Super PAC or anything. And we are against APAC, definitely the incumbent is an APAC A,↗

2:53:29Speaker 23recipient, and, we need to replace him with the integrity that we see and believe Anthony have right now, and will represent our district. I'm lucky to be in his district, so I'm, I'm gonna go and vote for the first time for a congressional district that I'm happy to vote for. Now I'm voting for the lesser of two evils. Thank you, Anthony, for running, and thank you everybody for being here. And please go to Anthony, go to aglarforuscongress dot com and help us with any way you can. Just spread the word, donate, and we're here to make history this midterms. Thank you all.↗

2:54:20Ian MalcolmNo,↗

2:54:20Speaker 15thank↗

2:54:20Ian Malcolmyou, Mark. Thank you. Go, go for it, Anthony.↗

2:54:22Speaker 15Yeah, so, question one with the Trump power, I, I, I believe that he won't willingly give up power in the next election, and that we are going to be in uncharted territory, or territory that we haven't tread in a long time in this country, and we're gonna have to come face to face with that. But I agree that he is setting up all the conditions to create, the, the absolute power, the corruption of absolute power, and that he will not willingly give up that power in the next election, to the point of maybe even suspending elections. It's, it's going to be ugly. taking on APAC lobby and corruption, it's gonna be hard. I'm gonna be smeared, I'm gonna be attacked, I'm gonna be mitigated, I'm gonna be marginalized, and every day it's just gonna be chin up, chest out, mouthpiece in, and Fight and↗

2:55:11Speaker 15corruption, well, it starts with me. I, I'm not going to be corrupt, and I'm going to demand from others, and I'm going to call it out, knowing that I'm not going to be, compromised or complicit in it myself to where I have to worry about me being called out. I've said this to before, I'm going up to Congress, I have no stocks and bonds, no investments, no Roth IRA, I have no money invested into the military-industrial complex, I have no money invested into the stock Market or any type of trading or anything in any way that any decision that I make, whether it's from what type of milk to put in school to what type of space station to build on the moon, I have zero gain in it because I own nothing in any of the companies that would either be milking milk cartons or space stations. So,↗

2:55:59Speaker 15I, I'm going to be representing what the people want based on my morals and ethics, and I know it's going to be hard, and I know they're going to attack me. I know that doing this, that there's even the risk of being killed, and I accept that. That's, that's the cost. So, I'll end it there.↗

2:56:17Ian MalcolmNo, and absolutely, and, and, Anthony, on that, somebody put into the purple pill, not only to donate, but also to figure out how we can protect you as a American patriot, because like you said, the, let's say psychopaths and sociopaths that have this control, we know that these individuals will resort to just about anything, to ensure that these truths don't make it to the masses and that people aren't able to oppose, their way or their rule. And so I, I, I just wanna Of everybody that's in here, in this room, that was part of this conversation. oh, I'm sorry, Pete, I, I think we skipped over you, Pete. If you could keep your question to, to ten seconds, we'll go to Anthony. I think I skipped over you. I apologize.↗

2:57:00Speaker 24sir, yes sir, I'm a good marine. Anthony, excuse me, Colonel Anguilar, really good space. I'll keep my question really quick. what do you think about the thought that the short term end game before the November election is to, have reason to impose the Insurrection Act?↗

2:57:22Speaker 15I, can y'all hear me? Am I unmuted? Yeah, you sure are. Yeah. Okay, thank you. no, I, I fear that greatly, and I, I feel that I, I, you know, so I was, I was in Minneapolis last night, or no, night before last. I was, I was there last night and the night before, when the protesting outside of the ICE hotel got to the point to where,↗

2:57:45Speaker 15there was a tension in the air, a very, tedious cut with a knife tension, and I believe there was probably some kind of conversation between Fry, Waltz The president that said, "Hey, this is gonna get real ugly and this is gonna get real bad," and then boom, all of a sudden John, you know, Greg Bolin is being fired or sent back to California.↗

2:58:06Speaker 15so I think that the, that, that that's recognized, and I think that, that Minneapolis was a test, but it won't be the last test. And where it comes next, I, I have real fear and concern that the president will invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy activated troops. The reason I know this is because military personnel and military units have to plan and prepare for that. The 11th Airborne Division in Alaska is already on activated and alert orders to do it. So↗

2:58:39Speaker 15The precedent or the, the conditions are there, the rhetoric is there, the president has said he would do it, so I fear that that could be coming. Where? I don't know, but I'm scared for Atlanta.↗

2:58:56Ian MalcolmOh, and, and, we'll certainly keep our eyes peeled on that. And again, in the interest of time, Anthony, I know you've got to, to jump out of here, I just wanna thank you so very much, for being in here, for being in this space, for being part of this conversation, for everything that you're doing, both past and present, for your country. It was an absolute pleasure to have you in here. We will certainly look forward to hosting you again any and every time that you'd be interested in it,↗

2:59:24Speaker 15Platform and for your professionalism, and thank everyone, on the platform for your, candid comments and good discussion. I do appreciate it, it gives me a lot to think about. and everyone have a wonderful week, a wonderful weekend, and if you're in the Northeast, stay warm.↗

2:59:42Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and everybody out there, as they would say, stay, stay frosty. Stay frosty. I have to speak with some of the military terms. That's right. In honor of Anthony. Stay frosty, man. And, and in doing so, let's keep our eye on the prize. I know that he's got a jump for yet another conversation, and I wanna call that out because, talk about the strength that it, that it would require to go from this to yet another, and another, and another. And I know Anthony's gonna be bouncing all around the media trying to get out words on his campaign, on his candidacy, and so we will certainly be watching that with keen eyes. we'll be supporting that through individuals like Azapac. Certainly feel free to throw your support towards small to everything that he's doing, and you can go visa visa him perhaps, to support Anthony. Make sure you're always, of course, following all the rules, regulations of those various political, let's say, lobbying requirements. I certainly wanna do everything by the books. but with that being said, I know we've got a couple other, speakers up here, but, but Eric, I would love to just collect some of your thoughts really quickly on some of the things that we heard today, before we go over to Joanne, and then I wanna check in↗

3:00:56@warsawerikI would really, really like to say, thank you to Mark, Melco, Mark Alberno on the, the panel right now. He's a really, really great guy, guys. He's, he's done a lot, a lot of political work against the Zionists and, trying to take back our country. So, I, I do wanna give him an extra shout out. And it was really, really cool to see Azza pack up here. Michael Recknagel, everybody. if you don't know him,↗

3:01:24@warsawerikI mean, you've had to have come across the post, as a PAC, 'cause it, it stands for, the Anti-Zionist American, Political Action, Committee. So as a PAC is really big. He was just in Atlantic City doing a big giant debate, Anna Kasparian was there and everything. I mean, he's, you know, so we had some pretty big people on the panel, man. That, that was pretty cool, that was pretty impressive, man.↗

3:01:50@warsawerikAnd guys, right? So I'd like to remind everybody too, there's a lot of-- there's a lot of people who are anti-Zion, 'cause these, there is no nice word for it, they're parasites. They've, completely taken over the, the Democrat Party, the Republican Party. we have lefties, we have righties, and we have independents, in our side. And we want people in every single direction to chase them out. We don't wanna just chase them out of one party, we wanna chase them out of,↗

3:02:19@warsawerikHave these people completely, the Zionists completely expelled, completely expelled from our country. Give them no platform, no, no means of, of ever having influence ever again, and, get 'em all up. We all always have to work, work well with each other, you know? Gotta work good with all, all the sides and everything. So always gonna keep that in mind. But that was really great to have 'em up here, man. I really enjoyed that, and I, and I, Glad to see a lot of people in here. I've been hitting the follow button on a bunch of random people as they've been coming in and everything too. That was really cool. Ian Malcolm, man, was a really, really great show, man. Super appreciate you.↗

3:03:01Ian MalcolmNo, and, and, and Eric, right back at you again. for anybody that wasn't here at the offset, this was the brainchild of Eric. He helped put this together, helped connect with, Lieutenant Colonel Aguilar, and I just wanna bring attention to that because, I, I believe we're gonna start doing these more frequently. Eric had a huge following and platform over on TikTok before that was bought by the, you know who's, and had that account shut down, so he's starting to be more active↗

3:03:29Ian MalcolmStart doing these a little bit more frequently. I took some time, certainly bounced around to some other people's spaces, for the last couple months, maybe last year or so, and I'm, I'm gonna start trying to host a little bit more, trying to be a little bit more engaging and interactive with all of you, and so I really am excited because I think, Eric and I, Joanne, Adam, Truth Teller, Mays, so many others will be able to be part of that journey, and we will always try to make these interactive, right? It↗

3:04:00Ian Malcolmand opportunities for us to learn from each other and learn from other people. Joanne, Adam, may is any kind of final thoughts here, closing remarks and words before we wrap up?↗

3:04:11@joann_marieOh, I just wanted to, to thank you, Ian, for hosting Anetik and of course, Colonel, Anthony Aguilar and everybody. we might disagree in some details and stuff, but we all agree in the core values, and I think that's the most important thing, and we should stay united and Keep talking about, about what's happening and exposing and supporting each other, and I'm just really grateful for you guys and, and that's it. Adam and Mace, God for-- I don't know if any of you want to add something, and happy to, to be in these really awesome conversations. Mace, do you have anything?↗

3:04:55Speaker 25Yes, I do. I just wanted to thank you all for the space. you know, Colonel Aguilar has definitely had a lot of heat for the stances he's taking, and I think it requires us to kind of band together and, you know, support him through this journey, and also, just, you know, Ian, you're so articulate. I look forward to you having more spaces. I think normalizing the conversation is the most important thing, and, and for people to be able to feel comfortable at talking about Zionists I think it's just a very important thing. It's, it's almost like life or death for us right now at this point. but yeah, excellent space, per usual, and thank you guys, thank you all for the comments and questions and, for having me up.↗

3:05:40Ian MalcolmYeah. Absolutely. Thank you so much. And, let's check in, Adam Godfrey, any, any thoughts here? Final, final closing remarks?↗

3:05:48@g0dfr0yYeah, just wonderful space. I, I'm so glad also that people like Colonel Aguilar are running for Congress. That's what we need. I pray that I'm wrong about my, prediction about the midterms, and I pray that voices like that get out there and Craig Stoker and others, because we need to shatter the Zionist control structure of both parties. So it's wonderful to see. Thank you.↗

3:06:15Ian MalcolmNo, I couldn't agree with that more. And, and Adam, if, if you're still with us, to go to you, I'd, I'd kind of bounce, the idea off Godfrey's comment there, which is perhaps the, the white pill, which is to recognize this common denominator that's essentially sitting atop left, right, and everything in between. with individuals like Lieutenant Colonel Aguilar, do you feel like we're gonna start seeing a significant shift in this conversation, in this discourse? Do you think that twenty twenty-six perhaps is the↗

3:06:45Ian MalcolmForce functioned into the mainstream dialogue, rather than, I mean, we, we did, I was, I celebrated last year when Tucker Carlson started talking about some of these ideas, but do you think this becomes a talking point perhaps on Fox News, CNN, BBC, any of the other major, networks, or do you think this will remain in the fringe even in spite of people like Lieutenant Colonel Aguilar?↗

3:07:06Speaker 26Oh, wow, that's a big question. you know, it's early on in the year, and anything can happen. I know that they've turned on all the forces of division. You know, we've got them in the news, in the media, online. The algorithms are boosting it. And, even in the alternative media space, and I say alternative with, with air quotes, they're pushing the civil war psyop, you know? So, I don't know. I, I honestly don't know, 'cause they're, they're pushing the division and↗

3:07:35Speaker 26We were, we were at a good place. We were united, we were getting together, we were starting to see eye to eye, and, you can see the division that's been caused, recently of all this stuff. So, so I'm not sure, but I, I would, I would just caution people, I would remind people that, you know, people on the right aren't evil, and people on the left don't wanna kill you. You know, people who are telling you these things I don't think they have your best interest at heart. I fe- I think they're naive about the world and naive about,↗

3:08:03Speaker 26the dyn-dynamics at play, to, for-they're, they're naive about what is needed for success because we are, we are under a class war, not, not, and then like, Like, the Asap, leader said earlier, I'm not, I'm not talking about Marxism, I'm, I'm saying that we are under a class war and we're losing to the zero point one percent, to the parasite class, to the Zionist class, you know? And, to defeat that, to, to overcome our overlords, so, you know, MAGA, Trump, the Democrats, 'cause they're just as bad, you know, to overcome them, we need to unite, and, and so people on the left need-- you know, there just as bad like, like Blue Maga, you know? They, they think everyone on the right is a, is a demon, and they, and they don't unite with anyone, and, and they think, you know, the, voting in some blue guy is going to make the world a better place. and these people We're not seeing this much now, but they, they should,↗

3:09:05Speaker 26also hear the message of, of unity as well as people, on the right. So I would say we were, we were doing a good job of doing that, we, we were, but now all of this ice stuff and Trump is pushing it to the, to the max, and we've got people on our side, you know, and, and the Venezuela stuff and the Iran stuff and the Greenland stuff, you know, this neo, neoconservatism and this imperialism is dividing people,↗

3:09:30Speaker 26and Half of the country, half of the world, people who don't think like you, I would just, I would just second-guess them, you know, because as I've noticed, there's a, a massive, massive propaganda push right now by a lot of people that aren't establishment media, aren't, are people that are, are big voices, but they are people that you'd expect to be anti-establishment, like the anti-big anti-sta-anti-establishment voices telling you to hate swaths of the public. And like I said, we're not, we're not going to win if we are exclusivist,↗

3:10:08Speaker 26if we are hateful, if we're not understanding, if we're not trying to build bridges. And I think Ian, Ian, does a great job of articulating himself Of presenting his views, of, talking to people who are on the other side of the political, political aisle, you know, and if, if everyone that, had Ian's, philosophy, goals, motivations was like, was like him, then, you know, you would, you'd be super effective and you'd win.↗

3:10:37Speaker 26and it's the same for, for any, anyone of any, political persuasion, you know, that this is, this is the path that you need to take forward, not, not the aggressive, stance. So Try and keep that in, as, as, as close to your mind as possible, try to remain cognizant of that, and, and try to, de-escalate things, because we are being pushed to escalation. We're, we're like, rats in a cage, you know, being sh- being sh-um, to, to be at each other's throats. and we should re- we should reject that wh- wherever we see it. And, and frankly, I have seen large rejections of people who have been pushing it,↗

3:11:17Speaker 26and Kids are turning to new boomers, like we've got like, we've got the young, young MAGA, patriots, I call them, young patriots, and on the right, that's what-- On the right, I would say, I would caution that's the, that's the most dangerous thing on the right, you know? On the left, we got wokeism, it's pretty dangerous to fall into that, become a woke scold, b-- start, moral policing everyone, start woke scolding everyone, start purity testing everyone. On the↗

3:11:49Speaker 26And you start trying to make yourself super exclusive, and you keep whittling down the amount of people that you're willing to work with, willing to have a conversation with, and, it seems to be intentionally being done to silo us, to silo, everyone into smaller groups, and, and stoke our divisions. And just, we just need to, I'll, I'll land on this 'cause I feel like I've been talking too long now. So, I'll just land on, we're more alike than we are different. Most people want the↗

3:12:19Speaker 26themselves. They want, they wanna have, they wanna own a home, they wanna have a family, they wanna have a good com- a healthy community, they want, they want the best for people in the world. And yes, people put themselves first, but they don't, maliciously put other people down, and we need to be constantly propagandized to go to war and to do imperialism and to do,↗

3:12:40Speaker 26policies that hurt others. So we need-- we just need to remember that, you know, only three percent of the population are like psychopaths and sociop↗

3:12:49Speaker 26To most, most people, so don't give up on that and, and reject it when people are trying to manipulate you into doing that. so that's the best white I can muster. Thank you, Ian.↗

3:13:00Ian MalcolmNo, and, and I will, I'll let some folks in on some, I guess you'd call it inside baseball. and, and I say this, because of, of Adams' flattery, which I will throw right back his way. and what I mean by that is, Adam and I have gone back and forth countless times Both on spaces as well as in DMs and said, "Here's why I disagree with you," and, and we can do that with smiley emojis and thumbs up and nothing but love for one another as well as for the world and all of the beautiful people that are there within, right? And at the end of the day, I know I am wrong about so many things. I'm ignorant about an endless amount of things, and I feel like the, the only reason I am learning anything that is worth learning is because I'm learning Learning that I know very little. and I think the, the reality is the wisest men recognize that they know almost nothing in the grand scheme of things. If anybody doubts that, go back five years and ask yourself how aware you were of Jewish supremacy or the JQ. And for lots of people in this space, I'm sure it wasn't even a iota of a consideration. and so we need to learn each and every day. We need to consider and reconsider our positions. We should consider those of our opposition intellectually, because only if we understand Understand our opponents' perspective, can we even begin to understand why they might think the way they, they do? Why they aren't able to recognize what it is that we are sharing and our perspectives and our priorities and the things that we care about? and in doing so, you just find yourself arguing with a brick wall. And a lot of people have been doing that for a long time. That is the point of Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and the BBC. It's not to inform or to educate you, it is to get you riled up about some emotional- Issues so that you don't recognize the reality that your world is largely being undermined and destroyed right in front of your faces. And if you need any better example of that, oh by the way, just go and look at the S&P, which a lot of your four hundred and one KS are probably invested in, and then go and ask either Grok or Gemini or any of the AI tools to evaluate how that S&P has done if you were to compare the value of that, not in terms of dollars, but the purchasing power of those dollars Or perhaps the value of those stocks relative to the price of, oh, I don't know, silver, gold, some of these other, let's say materials that have intrinsic value. And what you're going to recognize is that they are essentially printing endless money to keep you blind from the fact that your economy is taking a nosedive. Your opportunity is taking a nosedive, the opportunity for your children is quickly vanishing, it is becoming a mirage in front of your eyes, which is why they keep you distracted with all the bread, the circuses, and unfortunately, like Adam suggested, the hate. And if you go back to Orwell, you've got the two minutes of hate. The entire idea of put onto the tele screen a lot of things that are gonna get people really angry, get 'em violent, and get 'em to hate a, an idea and a foreign concept rather than perhaps the things that are undermining their todays. And so we need to be very calm, very collected. We need to be very wise. We need to be peaceful with our delivery, especially when we're talking about these issues, because they will do anything and everything to try and call us radical or hateful or- In my case, apparently, in the last week alone, a white supremacist, a neo-nazi, a Jew, a Fed, an Israeli, let's see, what were some of the other glorious slurs that were thrown my way? They are essentially endless, right? The thing that I try to just be is to be truthful, to be honest, and when I suggested a little while ago that we should have borders and the ability to remove individuals who criminally violate those borders, I was called a "See you next Tuesday." That's wild! You could go back a generation ago and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and every Democratic candidate would have agreed with my perspective on that one. I'm not saying that I'm right because they did, but perhaps you are so propagandized and brainwashed that you can't even recognize that that's the reality. You are actually the fringe if you were to look back over a thirty-year timespan, timespan, or time horizon. The individuals that think that the borders are nothing but, let's say, just crossings to be transiently treated as the countries of the world become economic zones, that is globalism, folks. I mean, think about it, globalism. The whole idea of supporting your nation state, at the end of the day, it's that you're supporting your family and your community, and I say that because even the concept of a nation in its most fundamental form is the extension of your people, your community. And we need to recognize those things, they need to be treated appropriately, and we see the results of them being treated inappropriately. Now it's being weaponized via ICE so that they can terrorize and torment you, prospectively get right wingers to say, "You're right, we should take away people's guns." Isn't it wild to think that NRA lifetime Republicans are probably gonna side with Donald Trump and say, "Yeah, that's right, we do need to restrict people's rights to firearms." Weird! It's almost like they can program you with basic, very emotionally driven nonsense. So just like Adam said, be calm, be collected, and in that calm, you will see the world, the truth. You will see it so obviously, so transparently, and in doing so, we can make the world a better place. Really quickly, I know we got one, additional guest who just hopped up onto the s- stage. Would love to check in with him really quickly, Mohammed, if you wanted to add some thoughts before we close down the room,↗

3:18:33Ian Malcolmand we'll use↗

3:18:35Speaker 27Oh, that's very kind. no, that's very kind. I was, I was just gonna be cheeky and say, in the roster of, quote unquote slurs that were levied at you, I find only two of those slurs, potentially slurs, the rest of them were, seem to be, okay actually, but I won't identify which ones they were.↗

3:18:53Ian MalcolmHey, I, I will never shy, well, for what it's worth, I will never shy away from any of them. and it's not necessarily because I fear them or lack a fear of being those things if they were sincere, but rather because they're just slurs. They are weak, effeminate attempts to get me to stop speaking what I believe to be the truth. And the people that say them, they have to resort to them because they can't come up and they can't debate the ideas that I try to share. And that↗

3:19:19Speaker 27unfortunately, you know, my, my belief in terms of free speech is that everyone has the right to be whoever they want to be. So if you wanna be a Nazi, If you wanna be an old school Nazi, fill your boots. All I ask as a citizen of, if you're standing next to me, is that in the public space where you have authority or you have, to deal with people in the public space, that you're fair You suspend whatever it is that your beliefs are, and you deal with the individual as you find them. Otherwise, the rest of it, I don't care. I don't care what someone believes in their head, or what they even say to their friends, or, you know, it may be that if they propagate the idea and it's popular, it's an idea, but just be fair in the public space. So I don't even understand why any of those things are a slur, as long as someone's fair in the public space. And I've seen plenty of neo-nazis who've actually↗

3:20:13Ian MalcolmIt is interesting, well, and then we gotta look into the National Socialists and, oh boy, can't we unpack some parallels between the insanity of woke today versus the, let's say plight of the individuals who lived through Weimar, which would then beget the question, who was running the ship during that period of time? And wouldn't it be really weird if we noticed some parallels to what we see today? And so look, the↗

3:20:37Speaker 27reality- It's worth asking, who is paying for all that port and all those cigars? What Winston Churchill was smoking and drinking whilst he was broke, who was paying for all of that? Who was paying for his lifestyle? A↗

3:20:50Ian Malcolmwonderful question indeed. And look, the next thing you know, perhaps due to differences in tones or voices or all kinds of other parameters in individual that maybe from afar, I might look and think, I don't know how much intellectually I'm going to align, then we get a, a, a statement like that, and all of a sudden I recognize, boy, I probably have a whole lot more in common with this person than I might have recognized at first. And that Today, a lot of these, there's been lots of claims about, I suppose my efforts here on the space. The one thing I'll promise to always try to aim for is the truth, the exposure of that which is being obfuscated, and the intent to share that in a way that makes the world better for ultimately everybody. We'll have differences of opinions in how we get to that better tomorrow, but if we do speak the truth, the one thing that we will ultimately get is away from all the lies, and in those lies, all of the fog, the suffering,↗

3:21:40Ian Malcolmthe, gravity that we found ourselves largely in this society as a result. So I will always advocate for truth, and especially advocate and support those who do so and speak such in a high IQ, peaceful, righteous fashion. I wanna thank everybody that was up here. I certainly wanna give a lot of love to Mr. Eric Warsaw. Again, everybody should give that man a following, as well as to the co-hostess with the absolute mostest, Ms. Joanne, an absolute superstar, and she is a machine. She is the marathon John Runner of X, I'm sure that she's gonna be on a space with Mr. Truth Teller, probably a couple hours from now, couldn't not give a higher recommendation for people to jump in there. If you think you understand the JQ, just wait until you get into that man's space, and I'm not sure if he's discussing that side of things or perhaps the idea that health is wealth, which is a fundamental piece, because at the end of the day, no matter how clear your mind is, it's always gonna be clearer if you have a clear body, and that↗

3:22:42Ian MalcolmAnd all those other good things. And so I want to thank all of you. I want to give a big thanks to Adam Media for the agreements, the disagreements, but always for the intellect. The man is absolutely wonderful. I want to thank all of you that were part of this beautiful conversation. Like I said, I will continue trying to do these a little bit more frequently, especially with Joanne, with Eric, with so many of the other friends that are coming into these conversations. We'll try, just like Mohammed just said, to speak the truth, to speak it proudly, to speak it confidently,↗

3:23:12Ian MalcolmIn the tunnels, they wanna sit in the purple pill, and they wanna slur us, so be it. But what it probably says about their arguments, they're not all that strong. And if they wanna come up, well, then we'll see how they do. But until that next time, I wanna wish everybody, as we always do, a good morning, good evening, good afternoon. Certainly, I wanna wish God bless to everybody that's out there, Godspeed on this adventure. And like we heard yesterday in the space, that idea of the Truman Show. Morning, good afternoon, in↗