Weekly Gospel: Matthew 10:37-42

4:21Ian MalcolmAlright Joanne, so I had to go. We've been doing a lot of various faces, lots of different musical backdrops to intro them, and I figured, well, I gotta do something religious. And so as a result, didn't just want to do a religious start to this, but, wanted to pick a, let's say, a rather interesting rendition of it. And so Joanne, I've gotta ask, this is, this is gonna be way outside, you don't have to get the artist necessarily, although it is a very distinct voice, if, if familiar with this genre, I suppose. So can you name that tune? You just gotta name the tune, but, perhaps even also name the individual that was singing or headlining, I should say, that rendition of it.↗

5:08@joann_marieOh my God. Ian, thank you so much for hosting and Christopher. I don't know. I mean, it kind of sounds like a musical, and if it's Jesus Christ Superstar, I've only watched it once, but it has like the epicness of, of Andrew Lloyd Webber, so I was like, maybe it's that, but I don't know, I, I don't know.↗

5:30Ian MalcolmSo, yeah, alright, can you guess the name of the song? It's repeated over and over and over again just to make sure we keep Keep on the train of accuracy, 'cause you're four↗

5:39@joann_mariefor four. So, so it's not that. Okay, I, I have no idea. No, no, no,↗

5:45Ian Malcolmyou're, you're-- I, I'm just saying the name of it. It's, it's part of the, it's part of the phrase. Oh, it is?↗

5:50@joann_marieIt is, it is from Jesus Christ Superstar.↗

5:53Ian MalcolmNo, it's not from that. But can you name just the title of the song, which is repeated over and over and over again?↗

6:00Speaker 1No, I don't know. No, you're right. I, I, I think you're right. All right, well then we'll continue↗

6:04Ian Malcolmregardless. Here's, here's why. So the name of that tune is on Eagles' Wings, which I think is very, very relevant for what we're gonna be reading. he says over and over again, he will raise you up on Eagles' Wings. But Joanne, here's why you are unbelievably more accurate than you ever could have imagined, and why this is a hundred percent going to have to count as a correct answer. So↗

6:31Ian Malcolmnot only, yes, that does sound very, very, very, musical, as in from, theatrical, musical, right? that-- and you mentioned of all people, Andrew Lloyd Webber. Well, so it would beget the question, what was Andrew Lloyd Webber's most famous, play? Can you name that?↗

6:52@joann_marieYeah, it's The Phantom of the Opera. It's one of my, it's my favorite play ever.↗

6:56Ian MalcolmSo The Phantom of-- It's your favorite play ever? Is that right?↗

6:59@joann_marieYeah.↗

7:00Ian MalcolmOkay, so, so now, bear with me. So, The Phantom of the Opera, the greatest, I think, production from Andrew Lloyd Webber for a number of reasons. So Joanne, who was the original Phantom of the Opera on Broadway?↗

7:15Speaker 1No!↗

7:21Ian MalcolmIt's the same person that was just singing that song, ironically. So you were caught on without knowing it.↗

7:29@joann_marieYes, it, it did sounded a lot like it. so who is it?↗

7:33Ian MalcolmIt is Michael Crawford, arguably one of the most famous, of course, Broadway performers of all time. very interesting individual, his musical background, but his voice and the breathiness of it, very, very distinct vocal inflection. And so Joanne, your comment that it sounded like something from musical theater, more accurate than you ever could have known. And so that was And, Andrew Lloyd Webber's performer, Michael Crawford, performing on Eagles Wings, an absolutely beautiful song. I wanna welcome, of course, Miss Joanne, who we're gonna give that one to you. so five in a row as a result, I wanna of course welcome Joanne, the co-hostess with the mostest, forever and ever forward, as well as Christopher Woods, who is joining us every Thursday for Spaces, but also said, "Hey, look, let's try to find something that we could do that would be rela- Relevant and topical, and I do always love when we get to do something that's a little bit focused on the good, on uplifting messages, because we talk obviously about some pretty, pretty heavy topics, right? And in the world that we find ourselves in, I am frankly enthused, I am inspired, and I am uplifted because I know that we are going to win. But nonetheless, every single day, there's a whole bunch of things that can demoralize us in a million different ways. And I'm sure everyone saw, and it's just a reminder, there's a, a video going around, rather virally, which is on a Palestinian child who is legless and missing one of their arms Trying to wade their way through a field of other children in the middle of dirt and rubble and ash, and it just, it serves as a reminder of the insanity of the genocide of the Palestinian people, which obviously is of relevance for what we're talking about here. The land itself, for its, let's say, holiness. Dustin Nemos, you're welcome to come up as a, a speaker. If you interrupt me, I will remove you from the space without a second thought or hesitation, because it would just be Unreasonable. Now that being said, so, so everybody's seen that video, I'm sure, it's, it's, it's heartbreaking in a million different ways. This little child who probably has also lost their parents, kind of meandering their way aimlessly through this field, again, virtually limbless, they're going to be for the rest of their life, and why? Because of the hatred and the animosity and essentially the villainy that is being pushed by this force that is essentially Israel and Jewish supremacy, which is kind of an inter- Interesting segue on the downside to that which is on the up. And I say this because if we go directly to Matthew ten thirty seven, and we won't go through the entirety of the Gospel, but it says that Jesus said to the apostles, "Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever does not take up his cross... Cross and follow after me is not worthy of me, for whoever finds his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me. I think this is an incredibly interesting passage because if you think about it, we are living in an era where a whole lot of people, they might love their mother, they might love their father, they might not because many don't have them because of all the ills of modernity Right? And so instead, that father essentially can be replaced by an infinite number of things. Right? Instead of just merely appeasing the person that is your authority, right? The authoritative force that is your parent, well, you can replace that. You could replace it with a government, which obviously is what we see every time there is essentially a authoritarian or certainly a communistic force. But you could also look at the force that is the machine, a little bit more generally. If you look at the machine and what it pushes out, well, obviously it is degeneracy, right? It is, in many cases, like that little child. It is evil. That child suffered because of a political machine, because of a religious ideology, because of insane amounts of vanity, narcissism, essentially evil that is from those individuals that resulted in those bombs being fired. On those innocent civilians, right? But that is essentially mother and father that is doing that. If you live in the United States right now or Western Europe or basically anywhere, if you look around, your mother and father, which has largely been replaced not by a loving nuclear family, but by Big Brother, and Big Brother tells you at every turn That the things that we're doing, well, they aren't apparently righteous, they aren't moral, they aren't just, because after all, it's Donald Trump who you could say is the figurehead of Big Brother from a political apparatus, and he has said that this is a just and a moral army. He defended Netanyahu, he sanctioned the international courts when they went after Netanyahu, saying, "I think you've conducted a genocide and commit war crimes." And then you- Television and the most prominent people on it, they're justifying these very behaviors. They're saying that this isn't only normal or reasonable, but that it's righteous. And we see this at every single turn. We see the mother, quote unquote, and the father that many are left with because their mothers and fathers, well, frankly, they might not have both of them because we've removed the nuclear family. But even if they do have one of them, where did they get their ideologies? Obviously from the- Television from pop culture. And what does it say when the mother and father that they are deriving their worldview from is also pushing out degeneracy, evil, violence, murder, genocide? Well, then they pass down those very ideologies. So isn't it curious because this very passage is basically saying, "You can observe the father and the mother, you can support them, you can love them, you can listen to them, you can regurgitate their messages." But at the end of the day, if you do that, you're actually not living in alignment with that guy two thousand plus years ago in Jesus Christ and His teachings. Now, isn't it especially curious, because tomorrow there's gonna be a whole lot of people that are gonna walk through the doors of churches, and what other father are they going to listen to? Oh, that's right, their parishioners, their priests, their fathers, quote unquote. And what are some of those individuals going to be suggesting? Oh, that's right, Christian Zionism. They're going to push out a new message that in order to receive the blessings of Jesus Christ, well, then we must bless Israel, because after all, it says, quote unquote, in the Bible, that he who blesses Israel shall be blessed. Now, we know that that's a complete perversion of the Bible. It's a perversion certainly of Jesus Christ's teachings, which ironically ran antagonistically towards the very power structure that we are seeing conduct the genocide today. The same people that he created and banded a whip to go into their temple and basically say, "You have desecrated the place of my Father." But at the time, those Pharisees were the ones that were largely responsible for pushing out the message of, quote, unquote, the temples. They were the power structure of the time. So we're seeing an exact replication, is a mirror image of what people would have seen two thousand years ago, when they would have listened to their literal mothers and fathers of the time, or perhaps the political figures that were the mothers and fathers of the homeland supposedly. Right? So then we look at this, and Christ continues, because there's another piece to it. It's not enough to just listen, not to the mother and father that is either Big Brother or that is your pastor who might be preaching↗

16:03Ian Malcolmto Zionism, again, antagonistically towards the actual teachings of Christ. But Christ goes a step further, because even if you're listening to Him and to His Father's message, the righteous message, He says the following, "Whoever does not take up his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me." I think it's a really critical element to this. Because it's not enough to just know that which is right versus that which is wrong, you have to take action upon it. I'm not advocating kinetic violence, right? But the action to be willing to stand up in opposition to the liars, to those that are evil, to those that are bombing children, regardless of what the television, regardless of what the politicians or pop culture tells you. And that's why from every angle we get full spectrum assault on our minds, simultaneously, of course, our bodies as well, and that weakens us up to be willing to concede that which we know is wrong. Back to Orwell, how many, how many fingers am I holding up? Well, it can't be six, but they're gonna convince you that you are. They're going to convince you of that lie, which as ridiculous as it might be, that they're going to force you to not only accept it and internalize it, but repeat it back to them, to regurgitate the lie, to participate in it. So we have to be willing, again, to not only look up and to see the right and the wrong, to be able to, to disconnect ourselves from the lies, to be able to then, of course, recognize the truth, but then to pick up our cross. You can either do so literally, put one around your neck, or figuratively. But either way, to recognize that the cross that we are all carrying today is the recognition of evil, the calling out of it despite all of the hardship that it results in, and the willingness to then try to make the world a better place selflessly for others. And that's one of the curious pieces about this. Whoever receives you, receives me, and whoever receives me, receives the one who sent me. So in other words, if we are walking in that faith, if we recognize the truth, if we're willing to take the cross, to put it on our shoulders or around our neck, or merely just to speak that which is true for those that might not be Christian, right? The recognition that we all have our own place in this journey, we've got our own path that we have to walk, we've got our own burdens that we have to, to shoulder and to mount. And if we all live in accordance with them, that we will ultimately not just be making the world a better place, but we'll essentially be following in the literal or figurative footsteps of those that came be- be-before us, that were sent by that higher power, and therefore be-bringing that, essentially that heaven on earth that we are able to manifest. Right now, we live in hell. That's the reality of it. I don't know what else you would call it, when at every turn all you see is evil. But we are taking the steps, day by day, effort after effort, to try and undo the evil, to unseat it from absolute power. And ironically, all that we have to do is not to walk up a hill carrying a massive cross to be nailed to it. We just have to be willing to be, be called slurs. That's essentially the cross that we really have to bear. That's the burden that at the moment we have to endure. Oh no, you're gonna call me a naughty word! Well, as soon as you recognize that there's no power behind that, there's no strength to it, and you should be proud in some ways if you are called those things unrighteously, 'cause what it means is that the people that are suggesting those things, that are nailing your hands and your feet with those slurs, it's because they've got nothing else to rely on. They have to exert some kind of unnatural force onto you, because if you keep speaking the truth, you're gonna change the world. Why the Pharisees, ironically, were very afraid of that man. So we don't need violence, we don't need wrath, we just need the willingness to pick up and to shoulder that cross, which, in as plain of a word, all that is, is truth. And if we have the ability to suggest it, to state it confidently To state it repeatedly, even amidst the slurs, then we are gonna change the world in a similar fashion to the way that that man once upon a time was also able to do, for all of us that follow in those footsteps. It doesn't mean that we will be at that level of greatness, but that's not the point of religion. It's to try and find the truth, to do your part, to make the world better than you found it, and that's what we're all after. And so if we do that, ironically Right? We stand there in the shadows, in the difficulty, in all the trenches. We will be lifted up on eagle's wings,↗

21:09Ian Malcolmright? We'll bear on the breath of dawn. This will live long after we are here, and that's the best that we can do. That's the, the only thing, frankly, that we should do, because if we're not at least doing that, what else does it matter if we do? Right? If you listen to Big Brother, you get all the riches, the materialism, you get the Lamborghinis, but you lose your soul in the process, then you have nothing. But you have everything if you're merely willing to speak truth, to seek that which is good, and to make the world a better place, not for yourself, not for your bank account, but for those children, like that one individual without any legs trying to move their way through out A terrorized, demolished part of the world that somehow isn't still demoralized. Those people still are willing to speak up, to call out that which is evil, and they've lost everything in the process. So the least that we can do, again, is to endure the slings, the arrows of those slurs that don't matter. And as we do it, not only do we become stronger, just like doing repetitions in a gym, we get stronger, but those that are around us that feel demoralized, well, they too will get off the couch, they'll get in with us in this intellectual workshop that we are building. They will lift the weights that is enduring those slurs, and in the process, we will build a bigger and bigger coalition of people willing to do so. And again, if we do that, we won't just lift ourselves, we will lift all of society, not just today, but for- Ever forward on those eagle's wings towards something better. We will build that in alignment with Christ, in alignment with His Father, and we will make the world a better place for everyone that follows. And so with that, I wanna open things up to Mr. Christopher Wood, to Joann, if you wanna come up, share some thoughts, certainly feel free to. Trying again to create some moralization in the world in a very dark time. But with that being said, Joann, I'm kind of curious↗

23:09@joann_marieI didn't get off.↗

23:13Ian MalcolmSorry about that. Just, yeah, I was just asking your thoughts on the passage, the interpretation, and perhaps how we make the world a better place.↗

23:21@joann_marieNo, it, it was absolutely beautiful, Ian. Oh, and guys, before I forget again, please, please repost this space. Let's get more people in here. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. And, no, Ian, I, I just love your, your Sunday spaces so much. I, it's, it's just so inspiring and I wish more people heard them. It's,↗

23:44@joann_marieI think we could bring more people to, to Christianity this way because it's, you, you make them in, like, incredibly inspiring. I don't like going to mass that much because I, I don't know, like, I don't get inspired in, in my church a lot, but you, you just do it so well and I'm so grateful. Yeah, for, for the inspiration. I'm like speechless because it's like, it's crazy. But thank you so much, and I, I, I love these spaces. Thank you. And Christopher, welcome. Thank you for, for making me open this. Thank you. How are you?↗

24:25@theleaderofusaI am blessed, and I'm so glad to be here. I'm thankful that you were, excuse me, that you were able to join Joanne, and I'm thankful that Ian was willing to, hold an impromptu gospel space. So I'm glad everyone's here. And, did you want my thoughts on the passage? Is that where we're going? Love↗

24:42Ian Malcolmthat, Christopher. Yeah. And if anybody else wants to come up and, and to share their thoughts, in particular, there's, there's two major elements, right? Whoever loves the father or mother Worthy of me, and whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. I'm very curious for your thoughts on that, Chris.↗

25:04@theleaderofusaAbsolutely. And, and this, this, this, that section right there is kind of the-- If anyone has the time, the, the entire chapter, ten of this, not just those verses, those verses kind of summarize it, but it's all, it's all very noteworthy. Yeah. But what I get from that, what I'm understanding- Understand my interpretation of that is that, it's like what we're dealing with right now, where you have parents, you know, fighting with their children, children fighting with their parents in regards to politics, which politics doesn't mean specifically like red versus blue, politics doesn't mean, what, what we've kind of been forced to believe, where it's simply the governance in terms of, you know, elected officials. Politics is, is the way we live our life, so it's pretty synonymous With culture, if you will. So if you're discussing culture, you're gonna discuss politics. They pretty much go hand in hand and are al-almost synonymous, except for some technicalities. So the, the mother and, you know, you're not supposed to love your mother or your father more than God. You're not supposed to love your daughter or your son more than God. So if there's some sort of, if, if you, like, for instance, from a, from a parent's perspective, if your child, you know, you have a lot of these liberal people maybe that will love their children and, and encourage them to go down the deceitful route in life, and they love their children and the, and the life of their children more than they love God. But the thing is, is God loves us so much, and You want, He truly wants what's, what's best for us. So if you're, if you're loving these people's lives more Might not be leading them down a righteous path essentially. Now, where, if we go into it, it says that Jesus says that I've not come to bring peace, but I've come to bring a sword. He's come to set a man against his father, a daughter against his mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and a man's enemies will be those of his own household. So the, this is really what's happening, you know, a house divided cannot stand, and what's, what's occurred is people are starting to diverge on their thought processes. So if, if, if we go from the child's perspective, if you know that maybe your father or your mother's wrong and maybe they're believing ungodly things, well, you sh- you shouldn't, s- try to support those ungodly ideas or encourage them, because you're supposed to love the things of God more than And you love, love, you know, your parents, as we said multiple times. And then when we talk about,↗

27:40@theleaderofusait says, "Uh, he who receives you, receives me," and, and he's talking to the disciples. When he's saying this, you have to understand he's talking to the disciples of God. So he who receives you a disciple of God receives me, and he who receives me receives him who sent me. So if you're a disciple of God and people are receiving you, right? They're accepting you, they're, they're loving, loving you, however may that be, then, then they receive Jesus, okay? And those that receive Jesus receives God. So that's how you can break that down. And he, he who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive the prophet's reward. And what, what a prophet is, people often think of a prophet as someone that is like predicting the future or someone that's telling you things that have yet to occur, and then, boom, they occur, and look, now I'm a prophet. But that's, prophet doesn't mean that. A prophet is someone who speaks the truth and reveals truths to you that maybe were unknown to you or maybe that you needed to hear. So when you can, w-w-what you can say That is, he who receives a truth-sayer in the name of a truth-sayer shall receive a truth-sayer's reward, and he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward, and whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly I say to you, he shall by no means lose his reward. So, it's, it's stating to take care of children. And to go up a little bit up top, it says, i-in, chapter ten, verse twenty-one. Now, brother will deliv-deliver up brother to death, and his father his child, and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death, and you will be hated by all for my name'sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in this city, flee to another, for assuredly I say to you, you will have not gone through the cities of Israel before the man of- Before the Son of Man comes. So, this, this is kind of like what happened and occurred in the Bolshevik Revolution with the Bolsheviks, the, the Jewish oligarchs, if you will, where people were turning in Christian family members, you know, they were essentially spying on each other, turning each other in, and people were afraid for their own life, so they would rather turn in, you know, people whom they were supposed to care for, and, and they were afraid for their own life, so, you know, people can say maybe we're sort of heading in that direction now. And then another last, thing, and I'll, and I'll let y'all get to it. And we want people that have questions or comments, please request to speak and raise your hand. we w-we want you to be involved in the conversation so that way we can come to some better understanding.↗

30:25@theleaderofusaBut it says right here, also in chapter ten verse seventeen, "But beware of men, for they de-- they will deliver you up to councils, and scourge you in their synagogues." Now, I think that's interesting that Jesus says, "Will scourge you in their synagogues." Jesus doesn't say He'll scourge you in our synagogues, because actually, if we ever wanna dive even deeper, the synagogue is a phar- is a creation of the Pharisees, and I can-↗

30:54@joann_marieDid he cut off?↗

30:56Speaker 1Yeah, he did. Are↗

30:56@theleaderofusayou there?↗

30:57@joann_marieChristopher? I, I'm gonna send him a message.↗

31:04@theleaderofusaSynagogue, but the- Oh,↗

31:06@joann_marieno, Christopher!↗

31:09@theleaderofusaYes.↗

31:10@joann_marieYou, you cut off.↗

31:11@theleaderofusaOh, where did I cut off?↗

31:13@joann_marieLike ten seconds ago.↗

31:15@theleaderofusadid I talk about the synagogue? No. Okay, no worries. So, right here, chapter ten, verse seventeen, it says, "But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils, and scourge you in their synagogues." And I believe that's interesting because Jesus doesn't say that you'd be scourged in our synagogues, He was saying in their synagogues. So Jesus didn't identify with being a part of the synagogues. He did preach the gospel in the synagogues, but Jesus was not afraid of, of evil. He wasn't afraid of the enemy. He was willingly Going into the house of the enemy to preach the true word of God. And, and I'll, and if anyone didn't hear, please come up and, and request a comment or, or request to ask questions. We want you involved so we can have a better conversation of understanding. Go ahead.↗

32:05Ian MalcolmNo, well stated. And, and the thing that I would, that I would add on that, and, and I'm actually, I'm, I'm really grateful, Christopher, because you went in and you played the, or, or read through the latter part of that verse where it talks about, if you are basically parroting truth tellers, right? that, that, that you can do so unjustly because those people, the truth tellers, quote unquote, can be essentially liars, right? And so we look around today and↗

32:34Ian MalcolmThe Christian Zionist pastors, we see that with the people on television, right? It's all designed to basically push you in, in, in a wrongful direction while believing that it is one that is righteous. And so it's one of these things where, curiously, you know, from time to time, you have to be willing to speak out against that which is power and even that which is presented as righteous, right? So we've got to be able to have the, let, let's say the, the serenity to, to be able to very calmly discern the difference between those two things continuously and to always come back to that centeredness. really humbled to have Raed up here with us. Kind of curious for some of his thoughts on this particular passage, this idea, that essentially not only do we have to, to pay attention intimately to who we're listening to, to listen at the end of the day only to that which is essentially aligned with the Holy Spirit and/or a higher power, and then to have the willingness and the courage to shoulder that cross and to take that out to the masses, despite all of its consequence And that only in doing so can we follow in the footsteps of that righteous man. right. wonderful to have you here, my friend.↗

33:42Speaker 2No, the pleasure is mine, Ian, Joanne, Christopher. Beautiful. You know, first of all, in general, I think it is, and it will, regardless of, of, you know, people are a little agnostic or they, they haven't contemplated the whole God, issue, I think we are, and the religious people, of course, we are at a time where we definitely- You need that conversation.↗

34:07Speaker 2I think even, even like a lot of people, feel that there are, there's a lot of evil going on, across the globe, and there are a lot of evil people in power. I mean, the only fact, if you're just, just, you know, an average guy, and then suddenly you stumble into the Epstein Files, and then you realize, oh my God, you know, what are these people? How, how can it be that the people that are supposed to be, you know, the public servants do these evil things? So we are at a time where we need to go back to God. I, I say it sometimes, you know, when, when people talk, I say, you know, I decided to flee to God. I decided that there is evil, and I need God. So,↗

34:51Speaker 2with that framework, I, I love everyone talks about this. They were were able through the years to, to make us sound, stupid, irrelevant, you know, religious people, and, and it's all about the science, and you're not cool enough, you know, if you, if you, if you, if you quote b-b-biblical verses or, or you're religious, and but I think things are turning around. Everyone and a lot of people are feeling the need to come close to God. Now, the problem in the United States is the infiltration of the Zionists.↗

35:27Speaker 2into, like they embedded themselves inside the literature with their Scofield, Scofield's notes thing, the Scofield Bible that, that has this, isn't it, these side notes that, that twist things? And also the, the, the, the pure message of Christ, you know, I, I say to, on, on myself, like I don't follow organized religion,↗

35:53Speaker 2none of them, like, I fully decide to, like, alright, I'm gonna- I want to take everything, because I know, like, just common sense in my head, it's like, yeah, if they put Jesus on the cross, it seems that he really, really pissed them off. And then to-- for me to think that after that they just, you know, went back home and took a break, it's like, no, they, they had to make sure that they mess with the message, and they con-continuously tried to. So for me, it's like, if you ask me, I say, you know, I don't follow organized- But I follow Christ, I follow the theme, what He asked for, how He lived, and exactly carrying the cross. It's like we all have a responsibility. I'll tell you something that someone, a wise man, told me one time, and we were talking about the world and How we got here, and, and you said that, look, think of it this way, you know, you get invited to a party, right? In a very fancy house, right? And then you, you just got invited, you really didn't know, you didn't get the invitation from the owner of the house, right? You just got invited. You find yourself having access to a party, you go to that party, and then you drink and you eat and you don't, you know,↗

37:08Speaker 2put Put plates in the kitchen or even bother, you know, putting your glass somewhere, and you're just dirty and, and entitled, and you party hard, and then you leave that party without even bothering to know Which, who's the owner of the house you've existed in? And I think humanity in general, us human beings, this is how we're-- and it wasn't like that. This is how we come to existence, and we live for seventy, eighty years, all focusing on what we can get for ourselves, not feeling any responsibility to check like, where the, where do I exist? Like, is there an owner? Is there a way that the, that, that maybe I, I need to exist for eight years in a way that would please the owner? Or, or, you know, gratefulness for anything, thank the owner, ask. So this is the problem, we just got, we, we just exist and, and, and leave without bothering to ask the real questions. So,↗

38:06Speaker 2so I'm just saying how much I love this kind of topic, especially these days, but also with the corner of the infiltration, because you have no idea being an Orthodox Christian in Lebanon and hearing these people clap for Israel and- And paint us all as barbaric, regardless they don't know anything about us, they don't know anything about Lebanon just because they wanna support Israel, because, because also they see, you know, blessed this Yemen congressman, I don't know if you guys remember, and I land with this when, when early on in the fight, when, when, when some of the Ivy universities, allowed the protests and they were, they were dragged into Congress and questioned by this Stephanie lady, that vile lady, but, but there was a congressman asking one of the heads of these universities, he's like,↗

38:57Speaker 2"Uh, so are you saying that what God said about, 'Blessed are these who bless Israel, and cursed are--' Are you saying like you wanna, you want your university to be cursed? And I'm like, Jesus, like really they've done a good job on, on the American politicians and on Christianity itself. So, yeah, beautiful to, to, to go back to the roots, what Christ says, and, and to bring it to the people and try to distin-- and dislodge Israel from Christianity, like this Judeo-Christian is such a funny thing, is-- I used to always laugh when I heard it in Lebanon, like Judeo-Christian Yeah, right. And, and we need to wake up people, you know, even if, if one, one person at a time, it is our duty as part of carrying the cross, I believe. So thank you for the space, guys.↗

39:54@joann_marieThank you so much. No, of↗

39:55Ian Malcolmcourse, right? Yeah, absolutely, and, and so well stated. And, it, it really is, right? The, the onus is on us to take that message, take that, that figure, right, and try to incorporate as best we can. And, it's so curious because in a lot of ways, you know, I, I could go through a litany of, renditions of Christ through pop culture, right? And, and I, I think it's relevant actually, just because, Muslim, if you're kind of agnostic to the entire thing, right? It doesn't mean that you can't find a, a heroic character that you think embodied that which is good. I mean, obviously I have my bias here, but, in any of those, you're gonna notice that the heroes throughout time, all of the righteous ones, it was all them trying to make the world a better place for other people, rather selflessly. It doesn't matter if it's Luke Skywalker or if it's, Neo from The Matrix, right? All of them were willing to basically put↗

40:53Ian MalcolmWilling to do that, right? To, to follow in the footsteps of, of whoever it is that you put at the, the top of that pendulum, right? I, I would suggest that it's, it's Christ, of course, but others have their own different interpretations. Doesn't mean that you can't have inspiration, motivation to stand in opposition to that, which is clearly pushing evil, right? And we see it all over the timeline. And, and for what it's worth, as a final little piece, and I'll, I'll throw this one over to Joanne↗

41:23Ian MalcolmThan ever, there are so many false prophets that are being thrown at us at every direction to try and either normalize the absurd, right, or to push that which is evil. And I'm not gonna name any names, but there's obviously a number of political commentators who, you know, they, they would, I, I suppose they would aim historically at that which is Christian. It doesn't matter if it's Joel Osteen or televangelists or maybe, let's say, right wing commentators, right? They're now out there and they're standing next to- Do things that are clearly antagonistic towards the ideals of the religion that they once said framed and served as the pillars of a lot of their worldviews. And so, Joanne, I'm kind of curious how you, in your world, in your life, you try to identify, you know, who to and who not to pay attention to.↗

42:11@joann_marieI mean, so I, I keep going like back and forth like in my life, like, and when the genocide began, I started doubting my religion again, and I was like, "Where, where is God? You know? Like, why, why doesn't He stop this? Like, this is madness." But when I saw the resilience and- The courage and the, this, it, it, it was just the resilience of, of the Palestinians and Lebanese and everybody that they didn't stop and, and they keep, they keep building and they keep surviving and they haven't been broken. I was like, "This strength can't come from anywhere but God," like, and that's how I became, like, I, I think this is the most religious I've ever been, like, in my entire life. It's just It's inspiring to see that, and↗

43:09@joann_marieI didn't even know that there was a Christian Zionist. Like, I mean, I, I, I knew there was people that supported Israel, but I, I mean, I've never, like, I didn't see them in, in Mexico. I know they exist, but I haven't seen them like around me. And↗

43:26@joann_mariethere is just- So many corruption inside, inside those churches that they put their faith in, in weird places. It's just, it's so, so...↗

43:42@joann_marieI don't know, it's, the corruption is out of control, but I don't know, I, I think, I think the way to, to find it's, it's the inspiration and the truth and the beauty and It's, I, I think it's just that, and it's really hard to find because it's, it's not, good place in the world right now. But once you find it, it's, you can one hundred percent see it, and I'm just so happy that I found you guys and that you're in, in this ride with me, and I'm, I'm just so grateful, and that's it, and it's, it's just so beautiful today, so thank you.↗

44:23Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely, let's go to, Ryan.↗

44:27Speaker 2Yeah, thanks. Yeah, and I can talk for hours about this topic to be honest, and because my personal journey, was that kind of experience. But, but you mentioned something about false prophets, and the, the, the, the, I'm trying to think like, oh, interesting, false prophets. Who, who, who do we have in our contemporary, like the Eilila? And, and I don't know if you know Sam Harris.↗

44:53Speaker 2Sam Harris, for me, is like a false prophet. these people that are selling you the idea that there isn't no ultimate wisdom, there, there isn't no creator, there isn't no God. you know, we just exist here, out of, you know, just a random act of nature that just happened, I don't know, millions of years ago when a cell got created and this is the result, and then we die and that's it.↗

45:20Speaker 2you know, the, these, these guys, the, the manifest, you can manifest like, shut up, no. You can walk right through, you can put your due diligence, work hard, sacrifice, have patience, and, and be a good person, and then life looks better. so there is a lot of false prophets. I, I would, I would include Elon Musk in those as well, and all these people telling us about what exists there And how the future is gonna be, and we're gonna build whatever, you know, for me, when, when you say the real prophets, the theme is like a person that, that was either inspired by God, sent by God, that came to tell us, guys, you're, you're, you're, you're veering away. You're like, you need to, this, this is the truth. And I see today, you know, a lot of, I think everyone was trying to wake up the people To the evil, and, and funny enough, we can find it, like in my journey with Israel, I had concluded that they are the enemies of God. Like these people are the-- when I read the Talmud, when I, when I see all the actions and the rage against Christ, especially and the hatred, it's like these people are the enemies of God. And I think every human being that I can sit down with and show him that truth, I'm, I'm, I'm doing a good job, you know. But yeah, false prophets, there's a lot of them. There is so many of them, and a lot of them, you know, the, the so-called philosophers of the, of our days telling us there is no God, there's, there is no, there is no intelligent design, which is to just here randomly as a result of an accident. And this is the, the ultimate assault on God. I mean, these people, in my experience, they have a grudge against God God, and they just want to rage against God with everything they have, and eventually, you know, as it said somewhere, I don't, like they plan and, and God plans, and, and God is the ultimate planner. yeah.↗

47:35@joann_marieBut right, don't you think manifestation is kind of like the agnostic way of praying? Because I don't believe-- I, I kind of, use manifestation when it's like superstitious, superficial things because I do believe in, in it, but I, I, it's more like praying, you know, like when I, when I pray is more like in a spiritual way of like wishing health for people or love and stuff like that, and when I manifest is just like the superficial thing, so I use another completely different word. But I- I think both work. I mean,↗

48:08@joann_marieI, I never thought of this, but, I, I mean, who, who gives it to you? I mean, it's obviously God, so.↗

48:17Speaker 2Hundred percent, I agree with you when it's, when it's rooted in, in, in faith and, and the divine and faith in God, yeah. Look, I'll, I'll, I'll, I don't wanna take a lot of time, but I'll just say one, one more thing. Only a hundred years ago, even, even less. by the time the night fell, we had the ca-- our candles, we had whatever light we can, we can make, we had our fires, maybe even let's go be-before electricity, maybe a hundred and more.↗

48:48Speaker 2we had, as human beings, we, we, we were, we were kind of forced To contemplate. We were kind of, we looked at the sky and, and let the thoughts flow, and we got inspiration just by default. We didn't-- Not everyone had books in their homes. Actually, very hardly you would find a, you know, a, a Bible probably. There, there wasn't mass printing, so there was nothing except, you have to, you get at least an hour or two daily to contemplate about things, to look at the sky, to be inspired, to look at nature Nature to see the design working, and there is, you know, the primordial like, like link in our DNA that, that wants to worship, you know, something bigger. So by default, we, we, we be- we were godly, you know, and then, and then eventually, if, if you look back before, then monotheism came and, you know, religion came and, and, and eventually Christ came and said, "There is one God," and, and all that. Today, we don't have that. We don't, and, and I'm guilty as well, you know, sometimes I can't fall asleep if I don't have a, a space, with, with the friends that I love, in the background. We, so we, we stopped contemplating, we stopped being, inspired, and, and you know, they say when, when you seek God will show up, like just seek, you know,↗

50:19Speaker 2so, so we don't seek anymore, like we're too busy, we're just filling our brains. Oh, there's, there's so much, especially if we, if we're going on the journey of, of finding the truth about things, then, I mean, I mean, the ten years of, of my back got, got, it, it, it, terrible, my eyes got terrible because I was searching for the truth, right? But so I'd say, you know, we need, we need to To be, you know, inspired and let God inspire us, because I think in our brain there is the, the, the antenna, for God, but you just need to let it work, you know? It's like, it's like you go somewhere and you complain, like, "I have no internet, I have no internet." It's like, "Put your damn Wi-Fi on, right?" And then you put the Wi-Fi on, oh, I have connection. It's this kind of same thing, thing that the, the hardware is there in, in our physiology, we just↗

51:15Speaker 2Receive inspiration from God, the divine. yeah, that's what I think. Thanks.↗

51:25@joann_marieBeautiful, right? I, I love that. And I, I get so inspired by you guys, so I think God is working through you. Alright, we have Ryon Carter, welcome.↗

51:41Speaker 3Hello, thank you. I wanted to say something referring back to, what is his name? The guy that just spoke, right? On Israel.↗

51:55Speaker 3yes, they have done things, but us as a collective that's seeking to understand Wouldn't have known things or gotten to the conclusion or consciousness that we have came to without those obstacles. Now we can differentiate who, what, and place them in a certain, you know, stance on things. Now since we have the understanding, what are we gonna do with it now?↗

52:30Speaker 2I would, I would say, if I may answer, I would say the first thing as a personal responsibility is just to get over, the intimidation and have the willingness to call things out. Meaning, if I ask you, "Do you think Israel committed a genocide?" You need to say a hundred percent yes. Once you confirm that it's a yes, do you have the responsibility to bear the cross and go,↗

52:59Speaker 2bring awareness to other people that Israel committed a genocide? Well, then you're doing Great, I mean, you're doing, you're doing, yeah. I feel that I'm doing my personal responsibility if in my lifetime there was a genocide and I didn't call it out, I don't think Christ or Muhammad or Moses or anyone would be happy with me. So that's like the basics, right? The bringing the awareness that, that in our lifetime this is, this happened, but we called it out. We took some risk, we, we, we, we, we carried our cross as a personal responsibility To call out evil when we saw it. I think this is a good start. I don't know if I answered your question, Brian.↗

53:42Speaker 3Yes, but they have never said that they didn't commit these things, which they also place themselves everywhere around the world to consistently have it to bring awareness to everyone in a way which wasn't there before. So would you say, and how would we have evolved if it didn't happen? Where would we still be?↗

54:09Speaker 2Can I subcontract that question to my friend Ian, because I think he can do a much better job than me answering it, to be honest.↗

54:17Ian MalcolmWell, I'm, I'm certainly happy to try. but, but Brian, would, would you mind just restating it?↗

54:26Speaker 3We have evolved in a certain way to which they have brought awareness to what they have done in history or throughout history. Now since we have that knowledge, and if it didn't happen, where would we have been in history? Would we have been stagnant, still going through difficulties? Or would we still have evolved, knowing what would have happened, overcame them, and still consistently evolved?↗

55:01Ian MalcolmNo, I, and to try and read between the lines, I think where you're going with this is what would have happened if the world hadn't been subverted by those that are currently in control? And the curious piece is that some would say, "Well, then there's just gonna be some other force that takes over and is therefore evil." And I look at that and I say, "No, I, I, I don't think that's right at all, because if I look throughout, the, the great periods of time which we can see encapsulated in some of the wonderful architecture and art and literature that we see all around us, well, then we see that there have been windows where the world was ever more beautiful than it was the years prior or the centuries prior. Right? There were people that came about, and, and I think it's, it's really ironic 'cause today you see everybody looking down at their phone as they walk down the street, they walk into a building, right? Nobody's looking up at the stars or at the beautiful artwork that once lined the ceilings of all of these cathedrals and mosques all across the world, right? So you, you had, you had people of the past trying to figure out how to bring heaven to earth. That was basically what they were doing, right? and, and again, they did it Through all of these beautiful structures that people today, they travel all over the world to see. So we, we know that they're beautiful, that's why they're, they're inspiring, and that's why they, people aspire to go and visit them, right? And we also see that the present, we see things that-- and, and this is a, a horrible one, but if everybody has not, if you're not familiar with the term, go look up brutalist architecture, and you're gonna see buildings that look like big, ugly Lego boxes, right? That they put all these people into Contrast that to the architecture of yesterday. It doesn't matter if it's a cathedral, if it's a mosque, or if it's a, a state house, right? Once upon a time, we had Gothic architecture, for example, and people making things that they thought were really spectacular. And today, you walk into the Apple Store, and it's just white walls, a white floor, some white tables, it looks like Willy Wonka, right? And, and this is all part of the, the dismantling of a higher power and of something more beautiful, and so- No, I, I, I do think, and I, I don't wanna attribute this just to World War II and the loss by the Germans to, let's just say, the communists, right? I, I don't wanna attribute it to any one moment, but obviously, there's something that went terribly off the wheels about a hundred years ago, right? Maybe you could say a hundred and fifty years ago. And all of the splendor of, for example, the Russian Empire, which has these magnificent buildings, right? The very people and the ideologies that built those, well, they all got politically assassinated. And the people that took over and took the reins, well, they built things that were, were terrifying, literally and figuratively. And, and so I do think that if in a not so distant past a different set of ideologies, had thrived, that, that we can't unfortunately imagine Where we would be today, I often think of, the, the-- We were talking about Neo not too long ago. I think of that line in The Matrix a lot, where he says, "This was the, this was the United States, this was the world right around the turn of the century, it was the height of your civilization." I mean, think about the significance of that line in retrospect. How many people would love to go back to the year two thousand in terms of cultural norms, social norms, the media, right? Pre-social media, for what it's worth, the world was so much better in a magnitude of ways that it's almost, it, it's, it's impossible to try and fathom what would have happened if at that point you had instead had moral people that came about and said, "We wanna make the world better for everybody. We wanna, instead of demoralizing, we want to moralize." Everyone. We wanna encourage them to take care of their bodies, of their minds, right? To look for that higher power, and instead you turn on the media and it says, "Oh, you know, we've got privilege for-- in many cases, it's white privilege, right? We've got, we've got this idea that toxic masculinity, right, is the idea of, I guess, being fit?" Right? Being fit, I've seen articles about how that is white na- or neo-naziism, right? Taking care of your body? Like, imagine what the world would have been like if for the last thirty years we had leaders, and I don't wanna, you know, lionize Arnold Schwarzenegger, 'cause obviously he's got all kinds of, of, of flaws, right? But imagine what the world would have been like if Arnold had not taken the steroids and was a natural bodybuilder, instead had gone into Hollywood like he did, made great films, some of which↗

59:43Ian MalcolmThey were uplifting in some senses, maybe not the predator, where he just kills everybody, right? But nonetheless, then he got this role and he was asked, I think it was by the Clinton administration, to go out and to try and help get America fit. Like, what would the country have looked like if instead of saying that masculinity and exercise, that that is toxic, if instead we said as a society, that is the healthy, righteous thing to do. Plastic surgery is stupid. Injecting yourself with all the steroids and all these other drugs That's stupid. If you're depressed, don't grab SSRIs. Get outside, exercise, be around your friends and family, put down the alcohol, lift up the water, go out and be in nature. Like, think of what the world could be like. It would be so spectacular. And so, no, I, I do think that we, we unfortunately find ourselves in the tail end of a subversion that people weren't aware of, and as a result, that subversive force, it wrapped its tentacles in Into everything, and as it did, it drew down everything from the pastors to the art, to the movies, to the music, and to our souls, right? And so instead, we need to cut off the limbs of all of those things, not literally speaking, right? We need to spiritually remove that power structure because I truly believe that just like, here's a weird analogy, just like, Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, right? He's inside this giant snow globe that is totally fake. Right? That character, the moment he walks out of the Truman Show and he walks into the sunlight of reality, it's a totally new world, and I believe that that's what we're going to uncover when we get rid of this subversive force and everybody starts looking for the sunshine, the sunrise, and for a better spiritual tomorrow for everybody. As trite as that sounds, we won't be able to comprehend what's on the other side of that wall that we're all living in right now with Jim Carrey as part of this show. And, and so- So that is, I, I, I believe that not only could that happen, I believe it is going to happen, and I believe that we are essentially a big piece of the catalyst, to bring that about. But Brian, I'm, I'm kind of curious for any of your thoughts and, and feedback, and then we'll go to Christopher.↗

1:02:01Speaker 3I just feel like, like you said, the art, Architect, architects, and all that stuff, like we won't be able to take that into the sky. Like, we can't build that for where we're going. It has to be us-built a certain way. So what we are at now, we're- Building it here, but it's for us to take it elsewhere. If you look at everything around you, that's what's going on. We're evolving and slowly taking it somewhere else.↗

1:02:39@joann_marieI think we're devolving. I think it used to be way prettier before, and now they are like cutting off the inspiration, and it's making everything ugly. But I'm, I'm curious for Christopher's thoughts on, on the things before. Sorry I interrupted.↗

1:02:58@theleaderofusaYes. So, in regards to kind of worrying and fear and stuff like that, I'd just like to, it's in this, it's funny enough that these things that we're bringing up is in the same exact chapter, of what we're talking about. So right here in chapter ten, twenty-seven, a few verses sooner even, it says Jesus is, is telling to the pro- to the disciples, which are including y'all, "Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light, and whatever you hear..." In your ear, preach on the housetops, and do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul, but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a single copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father's will. But the very hairs on your head are all numbered. Do not fear, therefore, you are of more value Value than many sparrows. And then if we just drop back to a few chapters before in, Matthew chapter six verse twenty-five, Jesus, giving the Mount of the Sermon says, "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns. Nor gather into barns, yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not more value-- Are you not of more value than they? Which of you, by worrying, can add one cubit to his stature? So it, he's saying, "You're wor-- You worrying about, you know, how you're going to come across things in life isn't going to add to, to-- isn't going to be profitable for your spirit, for your consciousness, okay? And he continues, "So why do you worry about clothing?" Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin, and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So, w-when I've learned about this, I've- I, it really, it put things into perspective. A lot of people are always buying extravagant clothing, they're, they're paying obnoxious prices for clothing because they're, they're concerned about the clothes that they wear, and to be honest, a lot of the clothes I have are, are, or a lot of the possessions that I have even, a lot of them just are, are blessed to me, whether I get them secondhand or, and, and it's nice, you know, nice for me, I'm thankful, I've always had sec-hand me downs growing up Going up. So it, it's nothing I've really had to concern myself with, you know, you reach a certain point in a young age where you are concerned with that stuff, e-even when it came to food, you know, I've been, I've been homeless by pur- by choice when I was younger. I purposefully became homeless to help grow, and I knew that it would be good for me. And there's not a day that I went without food. Now, it may not have been the best food, but there's not a day that I've went without food.↗

1:06:23@theleaderofusaW- With, without choice, I should say, 'cause there's times of fasting, but, you know, there's not a time where I didn't have anything to eat or drink or clothes on my back or a roof over my head. So we continue on. Therefore, don't worry saying, "What shall we eat? Or what shall we drink? What shall we wear?" For after all these things, the other nations seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be yours. Shall be added to you. Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. And, and that last, that very last phrase right there, therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. if I'm correct, that's kind of like a Buddhist ideology. I, I've bumped into some Buddhists, if you will, if I'm cor- or maybe there's another word for that I'm looking for, where You know, oh no, I'm not even gonna, you know, I'm not gonna worry about tomorrow, I'm living in the moment. It's all, you know, just, you know, live, live today, don't worry about tomorrow. Well, funny enough, Jesus has stated that, you know, w-w-why are we gonna be concerned about tomorrow? The Satan, the adversary is going to try to s-uh, steal the, the moment of enjoyment in which you're provided. If, if you're sitting there too busy concerned with tomorrow, how are you supposed to enjoy today↗

1:07:57@theleaderofusaSo essentially, don't, don't be afraid, okay? Speak truth. We, we need more truth-seers, more prophets, if you will, people that are willing to speak the truth, speak, shout it from the rooftops, the things that are heard in your ear, and know that God watches over you and protects you. And I tried to be a living testimony of that. So if I recall, when I first started, I, I-- when I first learned about the Jews and I was doing research, about a year later, I started throwing flies Flyers, and I, I was kind of doing it secretly, right? I was throwing flyers, I hadn't been caught yet, and, and I was letting people know about the Jews and whatnot. And then- I, I started, you know, in upgrading my operations, if you will. Well, somehow eventually the police figured out it was me. I left my phone behind, I did it, I tried to be as sneaky as possible, and the police got onto me. They brought me into the police station for an interview, and I was completely open and honest with them. I started talking to them about the Jews, starting explaining my situation, didn't try, didn't run from it at all, and I said, "Well, now that the police know that I was laying out flyers, and I didn I only got questioned. I, I thought to myself, "Well, I might as well use my voice now." So then I started going to the town square with a megaphone. At first, it was just my voice, and I was just shouting, reading off the list of names of Jews and what they've done to-- what they've done in these different fields And people would call the police, the police, at first when I was first building a reputation with the police, they wanted to stop me and, and, and silence me, and, and they didn't, thank the Lord. And it-- these things were, and when I, before I'd go out there, these things were definitely a test of faith. It's almost like when you, jump into a, a swimming pool that where you can't touch the ground, you're just jumping off the diving board, and you're not even sure if you'll live, like- No, I, I don't know if anyone ever recalls their first time jumping into a diving board, but I do. I was actually at a church event, and I, I've never really been in a pool where I couldn't touch the ground, and I was a young lad at the time. And I, when I jumped, I was innocent in my faith. It was before, before I became a non-believer, it was before I knew about the Jews, I was just a little young lad. I jumped in there, and I shouted the name of Jesus, and I thought, if↗

1:10:20@theleaderofusaI'm So when I-- That was like my really one of my first huge tests of faith as a young lad, and ever since then, when I do things that seem like they're a bit scary or worrisome, I put faith in God and know that everything's gonna be okay. So that's what it was like for me. I was jumping out there, I didn't know what was gonna happen to me. You hear, you know, a lot of people are anonymous, a lot of people are concerned, "Oh, I'm gonna lose my job," "Oh, you know, I'm gonna die↗

1:10:51@theleaderofusaPeople that I'm a living testimony to the protection of God, and that He can provide those same protections easily to you, 'cause I'm just a peasant, I am a worm. So if He can do these things for me, watch over me, I'm still working, I have no issues with jobs, I have no issues with living life, then He can do those same things for you just as easily. And↗

1:11:16@theleaderofusaYeah. So just, I want, I wanna encourage you to speak your mind, have faith in God is the number one thing, you know, don't do it with an ego of, you know, there's no such thing as, as God watching over me, and I'm just gonna go out here and, and, and speak about the Jews and whatnot, because the thing is, is if there were no such thing as God, okay? Let's, let's do a little pretending here. Let's pretend there was no such thing as God and that we are all simply monkeys on the earth and↗

1:11:45@theleaderofusaIf they have this amount of power that they have, they have the ability to do all these different things to us, and they have all this ability to track us, then it would be so easy for them to kill us. If there was no punishment for what they did, if there was no spiritual protection over us, then anyone that spoke up would be dead. I would have been dead years ago already. But here I am. I mean, you know how easy it would be just to send a, a pack of gangsters, pay em, you know, even a thousand bucks apiece, a thousand bucks Breaking my house just one night, boom, dead? That's nothing off the skins of the backs of the globalists, the Jews, if you will. That's nothing. So I absolutely believe that God is watching over us, that He's created y'all for a purpose, that you're not existing by chance or by accident, but each and every one of you have ideas and talents and abilities, and that you were put here to be the salt of the earth. It says, right here in chapter ten, and then I'll, and then I'll, give it back,↗

1:12:46@theleaderofusaWhere we at here? Something about the city or the city on the hill and the salt of the earth. I'll have to find that later on and bring that up, but you already know about that verse where you are called to be a, a light on the shining hill or a shining light on the hill. So you're called to, to be a difference in the world. You're called to be salt to, to essentially add the seasonings of God to this world. So, you know, keep fighting and don't give up and I, and I yield.↗

1:13:15@joann_marieThat was very full, Christopher. And before, before I ask some more questions, guys, please again, please repost the space, let's get more people in here and follow Ian and Christopher and Riot and everybody. And I'm just so grateful to be spending Sunday with you guys, so thank you. Christopher, how, how did you found out about the juice? Did you put it together by yourself or like how, how?↗

1:13:40@theleaderofusaNo, no. Funny enough, this goes back to me when I first moved up here in twenty twenty, as I said in the previous space, or I moved, or maybe I said that in the interview, all these conversations blend together. But in twenty twenty, I moved up here right when the COVID lockdowns had begun, and I already had a job lined up, and as the wheels were spinning in, in route to my new home, I, I received a phone call from the people who- Who had hired me, and they said, "We're going to have to cancel any of the new hirees and, and, and put all the new-- you know, we're gonna have to stop our hiring processes because of the COVID thing, the lockdowns are beginning and stuff like that." So a lot of people were maybe able to find funds through the government or other means, maybe they had a large enough savings to just ride it out, but I didn't have that luxury. So I, and I definitely didn't wanna ask the government for help, I guess I'm a bit, a bit pride That I was gonna be able to get a job.↗

1:14:41@theleaderofusaAnd, well, actually that time I don't even think I was a Christian at that time, actually, honestly. No, I wasn't. So in twenty twenty, I wasn't a Christian at that time. I was actually a disbeliever in God, and I was, I, I was actively going around telling m- everyone I could think of, including my dear, cherished, loved ones, that God isn't real. And so, anyways, during twenty twenty,↗

1:15:03@theleaderofusawhen I was coming up here, I had to get a We're still hiring, so I secured a temporary job at the grocery store, and I was working there, and I'm kind of a hermit. When I, when I, when I get done with work, I usually like to go home and be alone. I don't usually gather up with people or anything like that. I enjoy my, the peace of mind. So there's one coworker there that kept, you know, he kept Pester in me, if you will, maybe that's a bit rude way of saying it, but he kept on saying, "Hey, we should hang out, you know, we should play board games. We play chess and, and more adult board games, not like Monopoly or anything like that, more complicated." He was like, "Hey, we should hang out and play some board games and stuff like that." And, I kept on putting it off, no, no, no. Well, eventually, he, he, started inviting him over. We were↗

1:15:59@theleaderofusaOf, this was like the very first question he brought up, and it's kind of, you know, it's kind of a nerd question. He said, "I can't believe there's no video games that exist that, that would portray America, what it would be like if, if the Nazis took over America, something along that, those matters." And I was like, I believe Wolfenstein is like that. Wolfenstein: The New Colossus or The New Order, I forget which one. And, and he said, "Huh, I'll have to look into that." And he looked into it, and he said, "No, no, this is all propaganda, you know? This is all fake." And then that, I was like, "What are you talking about?" So then that opened up the whole conversation, and he was telling me about Jews, and I was like, "No, this isn't possible↗

1:16:48@theleaderofusaTopic, Jews were involved, we looked it up, sure enough, a Jew was involved. And then I started having, and I was, I was, a non-believer in God, you know, I was telling people there's no such thing as God, and I started having these little hints inside of me, these little spiritual, you know, now I'd say it's the Holy Spirit was saying, hey You know, you should read the Bible. You should look into the Bible. And what I did come across on my own before it was now a common thing, you know, not even the buddy who I was talking to, who's very intelligent, was telling me this. I, I was reading it on my own, John chapter eight, where he's telling the Jews that they are the sons of their father, the devil. I came across it in Revelations, all on my own occurrence. I was getting, you know, goosebumps, if you will, and I was like, " Me saying, "Hey, look up nine eleven. You've always heard it was a conspiracy theory, now's your time to see if the Jews are behind it." And so I looked it up. I was actually laying on the couch late at night And before bed, when that, when that thought hit me, so then I, I had to get up and, and just dive into it, and sure enough, the Jews were behind it. And then another little thought popped into my head, "Hey, that Star of David, is it anywhere in the Bible?" And I was like, "Huh, let's find out." But, but, but, but, no, there's no Star of David. And then I realized it's the six pointed star of Satan. And so, then when I realized these things, I realized, " Satan is real and the children of Satan are real, that means God is real. So then I went back into, my, you know, I said I was a, I was a,↗

1:18:26@theleaderofusainnocent believer or innocent child of faith, you know, when I was younger, I believed simply because I believed. But now I was starting to understand a bit of the logic behind it, and I learned when I first left God I thought, "Oh, God's not real." And it wasn't-- I wasn't 'cause I was mad at God. I never stopped believing because I was mad at God. I stopped believing while I was in the middle of reading the Bible. And there, when I was reading the Bible, I trusted scientists. Why would scientists lie to us? And there was things going on in the Bible which contradicted science. So I actually was, I was pretty, heartbroken when I lost my faith in God. And then I thought I was doing a service to other people by explaining to them- That there's no such thing as God and that science is real. And so when I thought, "Okay, there's no such thing as God, "that means there's no such thing as Satan. "And the, the reverse happened. When I realized that the children of Satan are real, the Jews, then I realized, "Oh my goodness, if Satan's real, that means God is real. " So I did a sort of the opposite when I came back to God, and I've had so many quote-unquote coincidences in my life, you know, and, I'm just↗

1:19:40@joann_marieThat's an awesome story, Christopher. And I, do, do you remember there was like times that people tried to wake you up and you were like, "Meh," you know? Or like you didn't put it together. I keep looking back at all of those times and I was like, "My life would have been so different if I actually listened." Or like, "Yeah, it's..." But I, I'm, I got woken up by, by Ian and Ruth, and, and I'm just so grateful you guys changed my life.↗

1:20:12@joann_marieRaheer, welcome back, brother. Oh, sorry, I, I think Christopher wanted to say something really quick and then I'll go back to you.↗

1:20:19@theleaderofusaOh, go ahead. Oh, yeah. I guess you asked a, a sort of a, a short question there about, did I, did I, did people tell me no? So, as a young child, I always had a bit of a A distrust of what people told me, funny enough, but I-- for some reason I didn't distrust science, but I did distrust, not, not like, like a severe distrust, but I was always skeptical of what adults told me as a young lad. And like, there, I remember a clear time when one of my elders, I asked my elders a question about something that was in the corner ceiling on the wall, and they told me that it was a smoke detector, and I said, "I don't think that's what that is." I was thinking for- Myself, that's what, that's what you call that, you're thinking for yourself. And they got so upset and angry with me, why don't you trust what people tell you? You know, why don't you trust what your elders tell you? So when no, no one had told me that, otherwise I probably would have dove into that. I never even really heard about this conspiracy theory. I, even when you're learning about the Nazis in school, I don't even think they talked about the conspiracy theories. It was always just the fear propaganda or the hate propaganda. It was always just↗

1:21:31@theleaderofusaJew, the Nazis hate the Jews, Hitler hate the Jews, and white supremacy, and they left it at that. There was no, oh, they blame the Jews for this, and they blame the Jew-- they didn't get into the why, they always just pounded the emotional propaganda into you. It wasn't until that buddy that I met, and there's no such thing as chance, so if I didn't, if that job didn't tell me, hey, we can't hire you, and if I didn't find that gas station job, then I wouldn't have a gas station, the Today. So, you know, there's just no such thing as coincidence. I'm so thankful that I met him. I'm so thankful he woke me up. Ian, did you wanna share your quick story on how you came about, or maybe that's just, I don't know if you wish-↗

1:22:12Ian MalcolmOn the JQ at large or?↗

1:22:15@theleaderofusaYeah, yeah, just in terms of your relationship with God and in terms of how you learned about the Jews, if you were rebellious to it, how that played into a relationship with God, did you have any doubts about God growing up and, and stuff like that, and how you came into forming a relationship?↗

1:22:30Ian MalcolmYeah, what I, what I would say is that, and I, I really do believe this, that in my personal journey, maybe there are some that will relate to it, I essentially was, kind of, let's say, mandated is mandated religion, which then led to belief in religion, which led to the instruction of said religion, which led to a adolescence, and I guess you, you'd think of it as like early adulthood, where I found myself questioning religion 'cause I thought I was too smart for it, was basically the, the pattern. and I, I, I think that had a lot to do with pop culture, right? At every, every turn, you're basically told, "Oh, no, that's just silly. It's clearly..." The Big Bang, religion is for children, right? It's kind of like, Santa Claus, I suppose, in that regard. And, a-and so a little bit went by the wayside, I think, and then started to connect, and I've, I've, I've spoken about this pretty candidly, I, I was a student of kind of political-- I would almost call it at this point political theater, because for a, a, a long time it was just something I always found very, very interesting. I, I love the historical↗

1:23:44Ian MalcolmOld quote, you might not care about politics, but politics cares about you, right? And this idea that the system that you live in begets the norms that you're a part of. And so I always found it very interesting, how do these things come about? How did, how did Bill Clinton, for example, right? How, how did he somehow normalize that he had an affair in the White House, and, and talk about how, well, I, I did pot, but I didn't inhale. Right? What were the consequences of that on the masses? And so you kind of witness these kind of things, and I, I, I bring all that up just because in a similar fashion that I started looking at politics and questioning the motivations behind these people, some of the intents, and some of the unusual continued outcomes of them, I also started to question the same narrative around religion. And so I started to look a little bit more into it, and, and without going too personally, I, I did have, and, and to this day, I have two kind of experiences that I can Not explained. They, they are essentially, you could think of them as eerie, or you could think of them as moments of kind of holy tranquility, and I prefer the latter. But the idea that something was, was, was behind me, literally or figuratively, and kind of encouraging certain things, discouraging others, and while certainly have failed as many times as I've succeeded, on the, the moral or kind of the ethical front, right? That in those windows, I found a lot of- Aren't it? And I found something that I couldn't avoid, looking into further is probably the right way to think about it. And so I, I, I did kind of explore a lot of, faith at a deeper level. I, I went through a weird kind of That's right, term. Almost meditative journey along those lines, and I think there's a lot behind meditation that sounds very woo-woo and, the term Joanne would like, right? Woo-woo in pop culture, but I do think that to, to Riot, I think it was, who said previously, you know, there, there used to be a point in time when people could sit in silence, and in the silent, they found the good, right? It's very easy to see those things, and then vice versa, you get to modernity with social media at They, they loosely joke about it and call it TikTok brain. What is that? It's the inability to focus on anything, right? You're continuously distracted. And I say these things because if, I think everybody that's listening, if you go on what you would loosely call a retreat, right, and you disconnect from all that stuff, you'll be amazed at what you find, both in yourself and with the world around you when you really think about it. and I, I think that space that we did with David Nietzsche was really interesting in that regard, 'cause, you know, he Into the great philosophers, and, and he came out with this worldview, and I think similarly, I did a little bit of that, and I came to kind of the-- At the time, it was an uncomfortable reality that the fool wasn't the person that believed in a higher power, but it was me for believing that I was foolish for doing so at one point in time. And I think that entirely is a result of social signaling, and you see all of these things in pop culture that basically tell you, "Hate religion, treat it as if it's, you know, outdated." And then you start to look at the communistic kind of, ideologies, the notions of the four olds in China, how they wanted to do away with religion, with their morality, with their history, and with their principles. And so you look at today, and, and we're basically discouraged from all of those. We're discouraged from religion, we're discouraged from the nuclear family, we're discouraged from tradition, we're discouraged from the founding fathers, we're discouraged from everything that should serve as the, the foundation of our worldview, of our national principles, and those- Those things are of course replaced with TikTok brain and the next, you know, thing that's gonna give you dopamine. And so, yeah, the, the, the journey to that, and, and again, I'm flawed in more ways than I, I could ever count the ways, right? but nonetheless, just recognizing that in my worldview anyway, there, there's something that's, that is higher that's out there. I can't describe it. I, I, I can't even really advocate for it aside from the, the notion that I have and the sense of- That I have, that tells me that I'm on the right path because of it, if that makes sense. It's not, you know, I, I, I once had a, a friend of mine, and I would sit around and talk with this guy for hours about politic-- political matters, philosophy, religion, and I'll never forget, 'cause we would go back and forth on this subject forever, he was a very overt atheist, and he would say, "If God's there, why wouldn't He just tell me so that I knew that I could follow the rules so that I↗

1:28:23Ian MalcolmWell, that's the whole point of faith, right? Is that you don't have that, that somebody's not always-- You, you don't have the knowledge that somebody's always watching over you, although today, I suppose, with flock cameras and Palantir, they kinda are, right? But think about it this way, if you've got a system where on every street corner they've got a camera, and your every movement is gonna be watched Well then, is it, is it that you're a moral person that you don't rob from the old lady in front of you? No, it's because you fear the punishment that would accompany it. And so if God is out there, then how would He better test us than to not make it apparent via totalitarian kind of oversight and, and overt, you know, signaling? That He is there, that He is watching, that we should be called to live the higher life. And what we, ironically, to come full circle on this, right? The, the, the ultimate thing that kind of got me to the JQ was the recognition that all the politics, all the media, all the everything, it was clearly antagonistic towards the very people that those things should be protecting. And so I started to look at it and say, it doesn't matter if it's the Republicans or the Democrats, neither party cares about the founding principles of the nation. Right? You see that so overtly today with the, not only the Biden administration and LGBT everything, open borders, right? But then under Trump with everything Israel. And so I came kind of full circle to this realization that if there's, if similarly along the lines of the JQ, if these people aren't acting in my best interest, whose interest are they acting in? And when it comes to religion, right? If the machine, if the, the creator, if he came down and said, "Worship me." Well, then that's the opposite of love, that's enslavement. And so if God came down and beat you over the head and said, "I'm watching everything you, you do, and if you misbehave, you're going to hell," well, then that's not a test of your righteousness. And so instead, that idea of free will, I believe, is there, because at the end of the day, it's our decision. We can take all the things that we've learned about the JQ and discount all of it, and somebody, if you wanna go make a million↗

1:30:29Ian MalcolmYou'll make all the money in the world on X, on YouTube, on Facebook, on every platform. Try to do the opposite and just to push out that which is good, and you won't make a cent. Why? Because the system has been totally built by the people that believe and worship that which is evil, right? And, and so ironically, the higher power is almost demonstrated Curiously, by the JQ that, oh, I don't know, maybe once upon a time was responsible for the death of that creator, right? Or at least his son. And so I, I don't know if that's of interest, intellectually or something to chew on as a, a, a collective here, but, but I'd welcome anybody's thoughts. Maybe I'm just ranting again into a microphone. Ra- Raed, any, any thoughts on the, the maniacal little, diatribe there? Any↗

1:31:14Speaker 2thoughts,↗

1:31:15Ian Malcolmdude,↗

1:31:16Speaker 2it's beautiful You know, because the, it, and Christopher, everything you said, especially your personal story, how you got here, you know, how you, we have so much in common. It is so crazy and, you know, I am Lebanese in Lebanon, and you guys, you know, are very far away, different cultures, different education system, and we-- the truth is, is so many roads to the truth, but the truth is one, and this is why we- You know, we, we, we meet and we agree and we became friends, and it is beautiful, that we have that. And, if, if I may just tell my personal story, because Christopher, it is, it's the first time I hear that someone got to this, on this journey and, and went back to God that way. I was born in a, in a household of,↗

1:32:17Speaker 2like people that are activists in politics, my mom and dad met when they were both participating in a coup d'état to topple the government. They were very active, but they were secular. And my dad, comes from a sect, my mom is Christian Orthodox. My, my grandmother insisted that I get baptized, and then I lived culturally, with Christian culture. But it was a time in Lebanon where, the problem of Lebanon was That Israel was able to work on sectarian divides and got us into a civil war, right? So, so all religious people were actually killing each other. And as a kid, I'm like, I want nothing to do with these people. I don't care about your God, I don't care about your Christ, I don't care about your Muhammad, Ali. Like, you guys are lunatics. if, if you believe that you're doing God's work by killing each other, well then, you, you're, yeah. So, so I was anti-religion completely. And I, I was just a secular guy, right? So, but, but my-- and, and then actually, because in this political party, it's the National Syrian Socialist Party, so it's a, it's a nationalistic movement. The, the, the founder of the party that founded in nineteen thirty-nine, was, b-believed that the people who exist on the Fertile Crescent, Mesopotamia, if you will, or some, some people- We call it in Arabic the lands of Sham,↗

1:33:49Speaker 2or Greater Syria. He believed that we existed together and evolved for thousands of years, and we are a people, and he was anti-colonial and understood that the colonial powers wanted to divide us into warring sects and warring tribes, and he was anti that, and that's why the coup d'état was, we, the government was sectarian. So, so, and this guy used, one of his sayings, he, he used to say, "We- We, we, we've all submitted to God. And mind you, he's talking to, to people in that area that, like, three religions, eighteen sects and more. And the unifying factor, he used to say one of his saying, is like, "We have all submitted to God." Some of us submitted through the Bible, some of us submitted through the Quran, some of us submitted through Al-Hikma, that's the Druid book. And we've got, we've got one enemy that wants to kill us in our religion. And our land, and that is the Jew, right? So, so fundamentally, and Israel was attacking Lebanon, you know, and, and occupying Lebanon. So I, I was awake to this problem, but if you will, in the theme of the Zionism, right? Not, no more than that. I really believe that in the West you have free press and democracy and, and, you know, all that. I, I really believed it. And, and it was after two thousand and one, around two thousand and four, right? I had time and, and I had access to the internet and all that, and I'm like, "Shit, you know what? This nine eleven never made sense. There is no way this, this, this guy, this, this desert Bedouin guy, like, pulled off this with his Saudi..." Like it didn't make sense, so I thought, you know what, I wanna, I wanna get to the truth on that. And obviously, you know, you get to the truth, right? But, but this, this isn't what blew my mind because I, I've always known that it's an intel operation, you know, it's, it's, it's not what they say it is. What blew my mind and like really started changing my view of the world that I realized, like, that some, one group, some group Was able to hide a truth↗

1:36:06Speaker 2on thirty, on three hundred million or three hundred and twenty million, it was by then Americans, and, and it just was fascinating to me, like how can a group hide the truth like that? and, and I started digging into the American democratic system, what's happening in America, who's who, and eventually you get to the Jews. And then, of course, you know, you start unpacking World War One, World War Two, the Bolshevik Revolution, and, and, and, you know, and then, I got, by 2011, I downloaded the Talmud from the Library of Congress, out of all places, right? And I started looking into that book. And then I believe, it was around the beginning- Beginning of the CERN project, where it was clear to me that,↗

1:36:56Speaker 2Satan, you know, the ones that, that thing that these lunatic religious people talk about Might exist and be alive and well, and, and that was, was mind-blowing to me, like, the evidence between, between their, their, their, tr-traditions, the Bohemian Grove, these dances, when they opened CERN, the, the whole idea behind it, there was a lot of evidence that, jeezus, man, that this Satan thing is, is real. And this is when I'm like, okay, so maybe these, these, these people are onto something. If, if I'm, I've always, almost confirmed that that thing is alive and well in our, in our life, in our ex-existence. Well, well, then the opposite of that must exist↗

1:37:48Speaker 2Like, it, it must exist. And, and here when, here I went on the journey from two sixteen to two nineteen, because in Lebanon, you can go, like, we have eighteen sects and three religions. I mean, I can go to, to a sheikh, to, to, to a priest, any school of thought, and gonna, they're gonna give me their own dogma, and I refuse to be a sucker. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna figure out the truth if God exists by myself. And I, I'm blessed, I'm fortunate enough I was able to dedicate the hours. And fundamentally, this is where I started, and I invite anyone who's agnostic, who's not sure, even when we look at today with, with all the conspiracy theories about aliens, about space, about solar flares, about all kinds of things and, and shenanigans these people are coming up with, if we don't understand where we exist We're not gonna understand anything. And I had to start from, from the fact that do we exist under what, what, what I realized later is called in academia, int-intelligent design,↗

1:38:58Speaker 2or is just a random act of nature? That this is how I can, I can prove or disprove if there is a creator? and, and so I went to study and poke holes in the whole Darwinian evolution theory and also the other theory, that is the Big Bang. And, tr- trust me, if you go on this journey, that will not take you long to see how much of an utter bullshit it is. And I started getting angry, like, if you guys still call that one a theory and the other one a theory, why the fuck did you shove it into academia? And teach it to us as if it was fact and it is the truth, and especially the Darwinian theory, like it has so many holes in it, it doesn't make sense at all, it falls, it's flimsy So, so then I, I, it's like, alright, so there is intelligent design, so there is a wisdom, a creator. Alright, fine, where do I find them? Should I go to the Muslims? Should I go to the Christians? I didn't trust anything. So what I want to do is that to do an academic research where I get, you know, sources and three sources to confirm something, and I decided to start, with Christ. It's like Was there a character in history, if I go about it in a secular way to find out if this guy exists, can I prove it or disprove it? And I was able to prove it, right? I was able to prove And that started giving me hope, like, "Alright, we-- there is God, and yes, this guy was, if you will, His son sent by Him." I don't cared about the relationship, but as long as I, I, I was able to confirm, confirm that He is from God, like He, He, He's connected, He's the mailman, call Him, right? He, God sent His, the mail with this guy. That was great for me to start as a starting point, and I started unpacking the three religious Then, then I had to unpack, you know, Judaism, and then, and it was, it was,↗

1:41:03Speaker 2it was then when I, when I, when I had faith, and I, and I believe it's not my individual effort or, or smartness, I think I was guided To find out the truth that there is God, the Creator, and God did send us the message many times before, and one of these messengers was Christ, and, and I, and I fell in love with that, with that character, like the story, how he carried himself, what he did, and, and so, so I fell in love with that character, and I made it, made him, you know, my, my role model, right?↗

1:41:38Speaker 2As much as I can. but this is the journey, man. But, and, and what I wanna say is also, I was able to, to confirm to myself that these people, if I look at everything, including lately then the vaccine came and how they destroy and meddle with our DNA Was the last, like if you will, drop in the bucket to confirm to me that this group, the Talmudic tribe, are the enemies of God, period. Because I understood Israel from the beginning, I understood the Nakba, I understood the slaughtering, and then I read the, the, and then the Kabbalah, that's a whole different journey as well. So the Talmud and the Kabbalah, these two books are the most important books they have.↗

1:42:27Speaker 2So, so I was able to confirm, like, yeah, these are the people who are working for the opposite side, raging, a revolt, let's call it, on God. That, that, that is it. And, and I'll give you one more story because I hear a lot of people saying it, like, "Well, they tell us in their movies what they're gonna do, they tell us this, yes." It is the God protocol. They know, Satan knows, and his people know that they exist under the protocols that are God, from God. They even have to abide by them, and one of them is to tell us, but then we don't do anything about it, and then they can say eventually to God, "Well, We told them we're gonna do this. And not, at one time, didn't we not tell them in a deceptive way, right? But they, but then they adhere to that protocol under God's creation that they were-- They told us, that is why they tell us, by the way, I just wanted to slip that in because I had to confirm to myself that for-- So for me today, I say to myself like, "My," when my sister calls me from Beirut and I'm out of Lebanon, and she's like, "Raed, this is coming," so many- Decades of this generation, I mean, I'm third generation activism against Israel and all that and assassination attempts, like it was a hard life because of Israel, right? And she tells me that, you know, this is like we can't, and I'm like, no, you have to understand, we are blessed, we are blessed to be at the forefront. I mean, who wants to die? Getting hit by a bus or old with cancer when you can die fighting directly the enemies of God, right? And, and, and that is how I view life and bringing awareness, like us here, I call us the thinking people, because Not all the people are thinking people, the thinking people, they, they're not satisfied until they get to the truth, people like you, Christopher, right? And w-we are at also at the forefront of the fight for awareness. Any person we can, we can convert and bring into the truth is a win every day, one by one by one. So, I don't know where I went with this, but, that, this has been my journey. It's the first time I tell the whole story like this. But, Christopher, yes, it's like Thank you. I saw, I confirmed that evil exists, and I'm like, shit, maybe God exists, and I went looking for God, and thank God, I, I call myself a man of faith. so yeah, thanks for that.↗

1:45:05@joann_marieThank you, Red. You said something really important, about the how they tell you what they're doing, and there is a quote by someone who has, who, who nobody knows who said it, but it's, "Um, evil must hide in plain sight for the rules of the universe demand that the deceived must consent to their deception." And I remember being, like, I, I literally lived in Hollywood. I, I kept seeing All the, the evil things, and I, I would just like, like the cognitive dissonance would like kick in, and I would be like, "No, this is just an art project. No, this is just, you know," and it just You keep making excuses, and I would see, because I, I knew about Palestine, and I, I, I'll tell you guys after, later, like the, the clues that I got, because they weren't like pretty obvious, but I kept like just making excuses, so I was like basically consenting to the deception, unconsciously, because I was obviously not aware of it in the moment. Like, you need to be prepared for, for the truth to hear it. And↗

1:46:16@joann_marieYeah, I mean, they, they, they, it, it feels kind of like a spell, and when, when you finally see it, it's just beautiful, like the veil completely lifts and you see everything for what it truly is, and it's- What drives me in the morning, right? And the first time that I, that I learned, for example, about the Holocaust was literally by a Mexican Nazi, and I don't know if it was like a National Socialist or like an actual Nazi. He had like a swastika, tattoo, and he, he like told me everything about the Holocaust, and I was like, "Well," and again, cognitive dissonance came into the picture, and I was like, "Well, maybe the lie got out of the way, and they just kept rolling with it because they were like embarrassed." To,↗

1:47:06@joann_marieto admit that they lie. So there is like me consenting to the deception, right? And then, when I was in acting school in LA, I was the favorite of one of my teachers. Her name was Casey, and she kept like telling me about the Federal Reserve and about the people who own Hollywood, and I was like, "Like, yeah, but I mean, they can't be this evil." Like, I just kept like↗

1:47:32@joann_marieYeah, making excuses, and I was like, "See what was going on in Palestine," and I was like, "Yeah, but not all of them can agree with this. Like, maybe there is a good one, like, you know?" But when the genocide happened, I saw that they were literally acting like a cult. And that they actually all support this, and, and that was when I was like, "Oh my God, these are all-- like, they are evil, like everybody's evil." So that's how I, I came to Twitter, and then I found Truth and Ian, and they just put it together so eloquently that I was like,↗

1:48:05@joann_marie"I had so many clues, and I finally, like, the-- like, I just needed the, the, the little piece in the end." And it's how... Like I, the fin- the veil finally lifted. But yeah, you're not-- The truth only comes when you're ready to hear it, like you can see it a million times, but if you're not ready, you just will come-- like keep making excuses. And I don't know, like I-- But I'm so grateful for you guys. And,↗

1:48:34@joann_marieI, I think Christopher wanted to say something. I'm sorry. You, did you open your mind?↗

1:48:40@theleaderofusaNo, I didn't. And I hope, and I encourage anyone else to come up here and, and comment and, and, maybe share how they came to the Jews. That's up to Ian, but on their relationship with God. But, I yield. No, thank you. Thank↗

1:48:53@joann_marieyou, Christopher. Hi, Breanna left.↗

1:49:01Speaker 2Can I, you could just like, what do you call it, like, just fill the, the, the, the, the, the, the few minutes or seconds while by the time I know you guys, yeah? So, so what I've realized, is that, especially in the West, since the 19th, if we look at in the 1930s, the 1940s, and before, the attendance of, of people to church↗

1:49:28Speaker 2the numbers, at least on Sundays, you know, the center of, of communal life centered about, around, you know, the, the worship of, of God and the message of Christ. And today, not today, the seventies, eighties, and today, dwindling in numbers. I don't know now if there's a pickup in that, but it was, especially in the nineties and early two thousands, it was shocking. And, and if you, if you think about it, it's like People have, have worshipped that way for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. How come in two, three decades, all of a sudden, people completely, you know, lost interest? didn't make sense. And, and of course, once you understand that the, the, the, the Talmudic tribe, the Jews,↗

1:50:18Speaker 2hate Christ, hate Christianity. They hate God in general. They, they, their God is, is something like our God, and they hate us to, to, to be connected to a higher power in general. And, and their attempt at destroying, Christianity in the West, it, it, it was, it was done, it was worked on. The media played such a major role. All these talking heads, some, a lot of them are jews They helped in that, they, they, they worked hard in that. And then also when they snuck academia under the guise of academia with, with these two theories, we just come from monkeys and there, there is no god, and with Sam Harris and all these philosophers and, and, what's his name, that, Perkins? Of the guy that, that, that believes in evolution and there is no God, and he has all philosophy about it, and, and so they, they, they did that as like, we call social engineering to get us away from God. I mean, look at the movies alone, Hollywood, and how always like the Christian white guy is just the lunatic, the lunatic, the, the, the, the, the, the angry, frustrated guy, right? so they did it by design To get us away from God, whether on your side of the world and our side of the world is even worse with, with the creation of the Wahhabi lunatics, the Muslim Brotherhood,↗

1:51:51Speaker 2in a lot of ways as well, and the destruction of Christianity in the Levant. So, so they did that you know, and, and I think the, the part of the, the global awakening to this problem is that people are reverting to God, and that's why, you know, Christopher and Ian, and, and I said at the beginning, like, these are such important spaces, you know, the message of God is in the Bible, if you look well, and you'll find the pure message, the message is, is in many literatures. I read the Quran two times, and I found A lot of wisdom in it helped me strengthen my faith in the one God. So,↗

1:52:37Speaker 2so yeah, what I, what I'm trying to say is that they have worked so hard to get us away from the natural order of us believing in the Creator, in the one God, and, and following the, the good messages that came from him, because they want us just stupid drones that consume and buy stuff. And something Ian that you mentioned that is so- So important materialism and, and the lack of anything that is metaphysical, you know, the unseen world. Today you'd find people talking about, energies and numerology and trying to unpack the unseen world. Well, well, God told us what it is about, like it is there, the literature is there, the wisdom is there, the knowledge is there, and it's been passed on for hundreds of years. And also something about the, the, the decline of the, of the church and the- West and the increase in, in the Western people veering towards East.↗

1:53:36Speaker 4Well, it was about a year ago, I, I, you, very, I don't want to, yeah, I'll use the word inspirational, I mean it not in the dramatic sense. In the way that you spoke to the nth person, I, I was really moved by it, and I would really invite people to,↗

1:53:57Speaker 4Even just watch that and, the way you combine Christianity and our plight, it was, it was really good. I wanted to say that, and I just wanna echo everything that said, was said by Ian, Joanne, and Raed of this global awakening. Let's all keep it Let's all keep in mind that, you know, not-- it's not just sixty-one million people who are aware of this, as it was in the forties, in the thirties.↗

1:54:26Speaker 4it's the whole world. And that's the difference, I've always said, as opposed to nineteen seventeen, we have three things that our poor, white Christian ancestors didn't have. One was weapons, two- Was the identification of the enemy, and three was the Internet. And I've always said this, so I'm gonna say it now, I didn't coin this, but I thought in my head back in '07, I said to myself, "The Jew, or let's go big Jew, can't survive in the Internet." And we're just seeing the metamorphosis of that, I believe it would have happened with or without October seventh. In any case, actually, I'd rather use the term organized international jewelry or simply international jewelry to be more specific. To be a little more specific than that, I'm gonna, I don't wanna say the jewelry, I'm gonna say The three entities that I refer to as big Jew is, one, our currency system,↗

1:55:31Speaker 4our media, and, APAC. So APAC, the Federal Reserve, and media to me is the axis of evil. And anyway, those are my thoughts on that, and, it's just a, you know, great panel here, great listeners, and, You know, needless to say, something could happen this year. It's important, of course, to be prepared. I don't wanna use that word vaguely. I think it specifically means build communities and, gather food or whatever you might need, just as if a hurricane was coming and all that, and always have your compass correlated. Excuse me. Calibrate with the Lord. I yield and thank you for letting me. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.↗

1:56:20@joann_marieOh, sorry, go for it,↗

1:56:25@theleaderofusaChristian. I was just gonna say thank you for those kind com- comments. We appreciate you.↗

1:56:32@joann_marieAnd William, is that you in the picture with the guitar?↗

1:56:35Speaker 4No, that is Roger Waters. Oh, a little play on Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd. Now it's a little play on words, based. And if I wanted to mention something, Roger Waters, I would encourage everyone, he's extremely aware of the same issue everyone here in the space is. I encourage y'all to look at "Pierce Morgan and Roger Waters of Pink Floyd," this is a two-hour interview, "Pierce Morgan and Roger Waters." Those together. I watched the whole thing and Roger Ward has set it straight up. Well, Pearce, you're just afraid of the Israeli lobby, whatever you put, etcetera. So, but in answering your question, Joanne, no, it's not me, but, I,↗

1:57:18@joann_marieI remember now. Is it from the documentary of life from Pompeii?↗

1:57:23Speaker 4That is it, Pompeii. You got the, all right, Joanne.↗

1:57:27@joann_marieYes, with the dog singing, I, I used to have two dogs that, that would also sing when they were Monica, and it's beautiful. But I, I was like, yeah, I, I forgot what they looked like when they were young.↗

1:57:40Speaker 4Yes, that, that is a photo of Roger Waters from the Pompei, the ancient, beautiful European Pompeii amphitheater. All right, this is from seventy-two before And, Roger Waters spoke out before then. Listen to the album Animals, listen to the song "Have a Cigar." He's writing about a music executive, "Have a cigar," you're gonna, and all that. Extremely based, and yeah, the play on words is there. But anyway, that's my answer to that question, Joanne.↗

1:58:13@joann_marieThank you so much. You got↗

1:58:14Speaker 4it, you got it. Thank you.↗

2:00:00@joann_mariewe have Yodha Rome twenty-eight, go for it.↗

2:00:06Speaker 5Yeah, I was just gonna say, where, where do you guys see Israel in five years?↗

2:00:12@joann_marieNot there anymore.↗

2:00:17Speaker 6And We can only hope, you know, it just depends on how the world reacts, you know, because we just want to call it really quickly, the state of Israel isn't having↗

2:00:27Ian Malcolmany violence with What he's saying, I just wanna be very, very, very specific, because I can see people perverting kind of what you're saying. when you do say that, right? I'm, I'm sure-- Well, I shouldn't speak for you, but, I, I would imagine that, people awakening to the evils of Israel and Netanyahu and the evil aspects of it getting checked would certainly be a good thing. But- But no, I think they are↗

2:00:48@joann_mariecollapsing by themselves. I don't think they are going to be hurt. I think,↗

2:00:55@joann_mariethe, the What they're doing, and they can't, survive without the money of the West. So I think, that's how it's gonna-- like, not by violence at all. I think they are just going to like, their little experiment is just a failed experiment, and that's how it, it's gonna go down.↗

2:01:19Speaker 5Yeah, I don't, I don't think anybody's waking up to the Israel problem, because Israel, they killed a hundred thousand people in, in Gaza alone, and they just started a war with Iran that was very clearly for Israel.↗

2:01:36Speaker 6Yeah, I mean, I, I, I hear what you're saying, maybe you're saying that you don't believe anyone's waking up, but what's funny enough is, at least here in America both, you know, if you wanna look at this whole left, right, red, blue paradigm that we're in, but even--↗

2:01:52Speaker 5But the juice control of the five pillars of American society↗

2:01:57Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's a temporary thing as long as we start to stand up and, and that's-- We're talking about solutions, and I can get into that, and it's definitely gonna start small, because, I mean, you're asking me to go on a tangent there, and I'll just try to stick over to the-- Can I interject? The idea,↗

2:02:15Speaker 5yeah, but I just-- But, but, Christopher is talking, you can talk right after. Yeah, just let me interject for one moment, I just wanna say when people They end up losing their bank accounts.↗

2:02:31Speaker 6Well, I've not lost my bank account, and, you know, they have a dang Wikipedia page on me, I'm just a peasant, but if they wanted to destroy me, like I was saying earlier, they could have already done that. So, you know, there are people, you know, it has Jake Shields who, who daily talks about it on his Twitter Spaces and his podcast as he lost it, you know. You know, there's just, it's, it's kind of like a horse of piece thing here, but in re- Saying about, you don't believe people are waking up possibly about, the Israeli power and them going to war and stuff like that. I believe it was Governor Scott Walker, who's that, which you just, you just see some viral clips going on right now where he tried to show up in support of the gay pride parade 'cause he supports the whole gay, LGBTQ, LGH T-D, HDTV stuff. Well, he was showing up there and all these gay people who are pro-gay and all that are also pro-Palestinian. So both the Left and the right are collapsing on Israel. The, there's only like the, the support for Israel is truly becoming a sort of a min- a minority position, because even the gays don't like Israel. Now, they're not gonna go as far as to say Jews and this and that, but they are definitely pro-Palestine. And, and I won't go off on my tangents about solutions, but, we in America do,↗

2:03:51Speaker 6we do have the opportunity to stand up and, and start to build the proper- For healthy culture and societies that we have, there's ways about going about it, and it's not gonna be like all of America at once. There's not gonna be-- I absolutely agree they control the, these five pillars of society that you're talking about. So it's, we're not gonna be electing a president and then the president's gonna fix it for us, okay? Because the elections are rigged, who they put in front of us to say, "Oh, well, you can either have option A or you have option B to be your president." Well, they've already picked who the↗

2:04:26Speaker 6Donald Trump was already pre-selected to be the president ahead of time. So it's not gonna be this, it's not gonna be fixed from the top down. You have power, each and every one of you have power. Your voice is powerful, your actions are powerful. You're not animals, you simply don't-- You don't, you're not here by chance and by accident. I go back to the Bible, since we're bringing up the gospel, both in the New Testament and the Old Testament. In the Old Testament, it says, "Ye are gods." Okay? So you guys We're all gods, we're all uppercase G gods, beca- because we're created by and in the image of the heavenly Father, and Jesus reinstates it when they try to take away the deification from Jesus. Jesus says, "Is it not written that ye are gods?" So, he, he, he clarifies and agrees with that as well. So what I'm saying is you have the ability to create and destroy, and they have, they've for the past however many hundreds of years, you know, decades, you know,↗

2:05:24Speaker 6they have encouraged us to- Simply sit in our hands and try to elect people to fix the problem, but the, the way that, Nazi Germany, Hitler's Germany, was able to succeed, it didn't just, it didn't happen overnight. It started in a small city of, of Munich, and, and it spread from there. So it's not like all the Germans all across the nation just woke up and rose up one day and decided they're gonna stand up. No, it took a small organized group To, to speak their mind, to organize, to say, "This is what we're gonna do," and then the movement slowly grew. So, i-it's possible. We don't know how quick or, or how slow it will be. And, in response to you talking about, "Where is Israel gonna be in the next five years?" That, you know, that's a, that's kind of a world scale problem right there, you know, because it's gonna be, there's enough on our hands for every different nation and every different peoples to simply protect and build up their own Home culture. So it would, it would take many different nations to stand up for Palestine and against Israel, for Israel to be dealt with. So I, you know, I, I would like to see just nations in themselves. It's a white pill when you see different nations standing up against, Jewish supremacy. So, you know, w-we're looking forward to making some changes here, but like I said, I won't get into the tangent on the solutions, but it does start at the local level, grassroots↗

2:06:53Speaker 5Yeah, I was, I was just gonna say that if you look at the countries with the highest foreign aid from America, I think two, two out of the five countries are in the Middle East. I think one is Egypt and the other one is Jordan. And I think Israel's like ob-obviously number one, but I think Egypt's number two. So like, like the US pretty much pays countries to be friendly with Israel.↗

2:07:18Speaker 6Correct. And we're, we're, we're a support-- we are, according to Netanyahu, we are this large fat calf waiting to be slaughtered and to be used until there's nothing left of us. So golden calf. I, I agree with that. And, yeah. And to respond to your statement about Egypt, Egypt used to be against Israel vehemently until, until they started receiving, if I'm correct, not just money, but threats from America. Yeah, you know, and if, if Egypt,↗

2:07:50Speaker 6that was w-w like towards the beginning of, of, Israel, nineteen thirty-eight,↗

2:07:57Speaker 7sorry, Christopher, just. So nineteen thirty-eight. Yeah, go ahead if you have the exact name. Yeah, they were bullied, Washington bullied them into, into making a peace agreement with, with, Israel, and since nineteen seventy-eight, what was called, I think, the Was that farm that the president's go to? Camp David, the Camp David Peace Agreement in nineteen seventy-eight. Yeah, go ahead, Christopher, you're right.↗

2:08:21Speaker 6so yeah, so, essentially Egypt took the cowardly way out because they weren't-- they weren't only paid off, but they were threatened, and if Egypt didn't go along with what America wanted in supporting Israel, then they were going to be torn to smithereens. We probably might not even have the damn pyramids of Giza if, if America went over there and destroyed and, and carpet bombed them and did So they took the cowardly way out, whereas a lot of other nations maybe had a bit more backbone and said, "Hey, you can destroy us and, and kill us and do all these things to us, but we're still not backing down. We'd rather die standing up than, than sit on our knees." So.↗

2:09:02Speaker 7Yeah, it's, it's-- Do you wanna go, Joanne, but, but I, I, if I, I feel that I need to also, although I, I spoke a lot. We, can↗

2:09:09Speaker 5I ask you a question, for R Yeah, go ahead. was that during the, the Egypt missile program, where they hired Nazi scientists?↗

2:09:21Speaker 7No, that would be-- I don't know about that story, but that would be before, before that, because, yeah, so Egypt was, was like Christopher said, vehemently anti-Israel, and there was a nationalist movement, and it was, it was led by a, a general called, Gamal Abdel Nasser. And, they conspired, the West and the GCC, some of the GCC countries, d-conspired against him to bring him down for the sake of Israel. And it's, it's, it's such a pattern that whenever, you know, a leader with a backbone from the area decides to stand up to Israel, yeah, they come down, hard on him, put so many ways, either bringing the, the, the, the staunch, Islamists against him, calling him, a communist, or whatever, all kinds of ways to bring down any national leader that we had in the area. But, but to your question, like, what, what will happen in five years? I just haven't, because I'm Lebanese and I've contemplated that question, like, like how will this Frankenstate, you know, because it is a Frankenstate. It's, it's, it's, it's an experiment that was put together that and then unleashed, unleashed a monster like, like, like Frankenstein. So this is- Do you,↗

2:10:41Speaker 5do you disagree with the Jews having homeland or are you just against Israel as a nation?↗

2:10:47Speaker 7Well Let me start with this and, b-b-b- answering your question. I think history can tell us a lot of things in terms of patterns and history, yeah, maybe doesn't repeat itself, but definitely freaking rhymes. And I'll point to you a hundred and nine, countries that had a problem with this group when they, when they, when they hold a little bit of power and then reject them like, like a body rejects a virus or, or, or a parasite. And I think what we see You're gonna see in the Levant, in Palestine, is the, is the hundred and tenth,↗

2:11:25Speaker 7that's one, one element of it. The other element of it is that you can't create, where did he go? Okay, I think he went. All right, I hope he got something. No, you, you can keep going, right? I, I mean, I think it's a good answer. Yeah, that's, that's one element of it that, that, that is in our faces, right? and then the other one is that Israel from within, what Joanne alluded to, that Israel from within, you can't create a country like that. You, you-- There should be a-- For nations to exist, there should be a social contract. These people, the only, common, if you will, commonality within that social contrac-contract is the safety- For the Jews, because we were oppressed, and, you know, one, the other one is hatred of the other. That's what keeps them together, that's what's common. But then if you look at inside that nation, that, that recruited people from all over the world, from different cultures, from different, ethnicities. I mean, they like to call themselves an ethnicity, but, but if you, if you read Shomu Sand, you'll understand what I'm talking about. and then, and then they, they- They came and, and they created this, if you will, the headquarters of what they called, and I used to call it, the global organized jury. They decided this is the headquarter, instead of being in a, in a stetel and then going out into the Christian lands and do whatever bad things, criminality we do, and then going back to the stetel,↗

2:13:02Speaker 7it's the, it's the global chet stetel now, is, is the global stetel, and that is what it is, this is how it behaves, and the problem also- Also, there is a lack of wisdom, and they, they are like the, the ideology of Chebotinsky, it's like we, we, we just kill and kill harder, and if they, we don't get our way, we, we kill harder and hardest, and that is actually the last statement of Netanyahu regarding Lebanon just says it so clearly, you know, we just, we just make people, yield to our will, and I think they had a good run, I mean, seventy-eight Yes, they did have a good run. I think now,↗

2:13:44Speaker 7it's, it's, it's going down in terms of the resistance that is coming from kinetic within the, the, you know, the axis of resistance, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, in Iraq there are many strong factions, the Houthis, Bebem and the, the Hormuz Strait, like so. So there's a lot of pushback, serious pushback that never happened before in the last seventy-eight years, and also in the world, they got this- Discovered the last three years, they really got discovered. It used to be such a journey for me to sit down with, with a Swede and try to, to really convince him of how evil Israel is. You would lose them halfway, especially with the propaganda and all that. Now everyone knows the truth of how evil that place is. And the, the contradictions within that society, especially that sus- that society is, is extremist and it's going more extreme. And I'll give you an example, like they, they, they, they pride themselves,↗

2:14:44Speaker 7for the gay pride parades, right? And, and then the, the- And this LGBTQHDTV, like you said, Christopher, in Israel. Well, mind you, all the Haredim in Israel, you know, the Mes-- the Messianic real Jews that are, you know, faithful and they study the book and like the Ben Yisrael and the Smotrich and these people, well, they believe in their, in their doctrine that these people need to be thrown, according to the Talmud, thrown from the second floor or like thrown off a building. They deserve to be Killed. That's one thing. They believe that the Christians are idolaters, so all the Christians in that land, whatever remains of them, you know, need to be destroyed. And the other problem that they find themselves in is that even the guy now who's challenging Netanyahu, his name is Naftali Bennett He's in the Likud, but he's challenging Netanyahu as like, "I need to be, to take the seat of Netanyahu. Why? Because Netanyahu failed. How did he fail? He didn't go hard enough. Like, this is literally his talking point. He didn't go hard enough. He, he could have gone harder. I, I can go harder on Iran." I can, I can do inside operations, and we need to change the regime in Iran. So, so whoever needs to replace that guy needs to be more unhinged, more criminal, to appeal to the society. So imagine what kind of society we are dealing with. So that project, like Joann said, it's the whole Zionist ideology, if it was two different guys, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Oh, okay, gotcha.↗

2:16:27Speaker 7Can you guys hear me? We can, yeah. It felt like it cut out. Yeah, I was hearing you the whole time. Okay. So, so, so the, the problem is that the ideology is flawed, and that's what we need to tell the Christian Zionists in, in America. Wherever you meet one, you tell them, "They, they try now, they're selling a whole idea as that. No one can define it, it's..." "No, bullshit. That's proper, that's Hasbara. It is very clearly defined. The idea of Zionism is that The Jews belong, b-b-deserve a land, and that is exactly their land, and you can add that also it is the two lines on the flag, one is the Nile, the other is the Euphrates. That is Zionism Then you can, you can put a lot of, that fundamentally this is the idea. Now, if you tell anyone that looks on the ground in the situation of how many Palestinians belong on that land and how, and the fact that it must be a Jewish land, only a Jewish homeland for the Jews alone, or at least they will be the, the upper caste and the rest are like second, third class Well, fundamentally, it is an immoral project. It has to include ethnic cleansing. You can't, you can't, execute the Zionist idea on the land of Palestine, bar ethnic cleansing. This doesn't work. So, so the whole ideology, if, if, if Ze'ev Herzog and I don't know Chaim Weizmann had a, a decent, a little inch of morality, one of them, the one, one, they pitched the idea to each other. Right? Probably heard so to the other guy when, when it was pitched, like, "Dude, you know what? We need land for, for us only." Well, fantastic. Alright, do you have an idea? Well, yeah, Palestine. And the other guy would be, "Well, what do you, what do we do with the people that, who live there?" Right? Jerusalem is five thousand years old, so they must have known there are people. And if they had a little bit of morality, it'd be like, "Alright, well, we live amongst them, we--↗

2:18:33Speaker 7And this is, this is, you can't have an idea like that and think it's gonna go, it's gonna pass. This is humanity we're talking about, like these people are gonna defend and defend generation after generation, they're not gonna go away. Right? And that is why the, the idea is flawed, that it's broken. The Zionism is, has, has gotten back, like in the seventies, in the seventies, the UN, and I can find the UN decree that declared that Zionism is a racist ideology. and then they white, whitewashed it, especially after 9/11, you know, blaming us all who defend our land as terrorists, and they got away with it. But now it's back. Zionism is an evil ideology, it has a negative connotation, and people need to call So the whole idea doesn't have the, the support of the world, and them within this, inside this Frankish state, are-- I'm gonna finish with that word. They, they, they're like piranhas, but now they're gonna go on a feeding frenzy on each other. Once they, they don't have-- They, they don't put the energy outward to kill and hate us, and they don't have that, then they're gonna go on a feeding frenzy on each other and dismantle that state altogether. Thanks.↗

2:19:48@joann_marieAnd also, right, they have about fourteen or fifteen percent of Haredis in Israel, and they literally don't work, they are like parasites, and they are outliving, like they are like having so way, way, way, way, way more children than the Jews who actually do work. So it's just like wh-whatever you look at it, i-it's just that, that state is just not, it's a literal failed experiment. So it's definitely not gonna work. Yeah,↗

2:20:17Speaker 7I- I got two points, Joanne, thank you, and I'll quickly go, Christopher, and then I'll give it back to you. And I apologize if I'm taking a long time. So the two fundamental selling points of that project to the Jews, it was like there was a brochure that was presented to all the Jews since the 1930s, if you will, even before. It's like, "Yeah, we're, we're gonna get a land for our own because it will provide two things. It will provide safety for the Jews." And also it will provide all kinds of benefits, subsidies, free education, free, free, all kinds of free stuff, like the ultimate socialist, you know, place on earth probably now. And, and now, first of all, the safety for the Jews element is gone. They can't sell it anymore to their people, even their sacred, you know, calf of the IDF has been shown to be miserable and, and destructive, and now we have videos Proving the Hannibal Directive isn't only doesn't save you, the IDF might kill you with the Hannibal Directive. So the safety for the Jews is like,↗

2:21:24Speaker 7gone. They can't sell it to the Jews anymore, and any Jewish person with a brain is actually, has left or trying to leave. And the other one, when, when the United States stop funding that state, well, then they're gonna start losing some of these benefits. A-and then, so, so the whole brochure that was so attractive for them to come and live there, it's like, "Fuck you, it's, you serve it like you promised something and you didn't deliver." And these aren't people who have ever con-be belonged to one land. They don't have this loyalty to the land. So it's the, well, you promised us a service and now you're not providing it. Well Shalom, we're gone. So they're, they're gonna flee, and they're starting to flee because they see, they realize, they can read the, you know, on the wall that this isn't good. Who's gonna remain? The lunatics, the messianic third temple lunatics. Oh, good luck, really good luck on that making a nation. It doesn't work. So yeah, Zionism is, is gone.↗

2:22:32Speaker 6And in response to that man's question about, do Jews deserve a homeland or something along those lines, I will say that, first of all, that's, that's the land of Palestine. These people, like you said, Raed, were kicked out of a hundred and nine different countries. They really don't wanna live in their own homeland, and like you said, that is like their, their place of safety whenever they get in trouble. you know, I, I truly believe that these people are connected to the ancient Canaanites, and according to scripture, the Canaanites back in those times, they, they were-- every last one of them were to be killed off, and, you know, some people say that didn't happen, and, and now they're, they're forming what some would say this Greater Israel project. If you look at maps of what the land of Canaan and, and the vastness of it, the, the land of Canaan, the- Maps of Canaan almost line up pretty close with a few minor differences with what would be the Greater Israel project. Funny enough, I don't believe there's a coincidence with that. And then another thing Israel is actually not the only Jewish homeland. That is a hundred percent propaganda if we're talking about these, these deceitful modern Jews. If anyone knows about the Jewish oblast, it's in Russia. It's like in the southeast part of Russia. They have the autonomous Jewish oblast, and if I'm correct, their flag is actually a rainbow flag. Another little coincidence right there. And the, that Jew-- the autonomous Jewish oblast is Is,↗

2:24:10Speaker 6close to almost a hundred times larger than Israel, but they prefer to live in Israel and, and, and do all their dirtiest, dastardly deeds. And they, they live in Israel more so than they live in the autonomous oblast. The autonomous oblast could fit them very easily. So it's like they're densely packed in Israel, whereas they have this humongous land in southeastern part of Russia in which it's, it's not- That occupied by their own people. So, and, and they, they're called the, it's, they're the traveling merchants for a reason, they're always traveling around.↗

2:24:48@joann_marieBecause they can't build anything, Christopher. Like, they arrived in Palestine and it was already beautiful. It's like, seriously, if, if you guys go, it's absolutely gorgeous there. And, in, in the oblast, they don't have anything built, so they aren't gonna go there because they, these people only are able to destruct things. But I, I hope they don't↗

2:25:10Ian Malcolmgo to Jo-Joanne, it's ironic, isn't it, even Israel? It was given to them, then fought for them, then defended for them, then paid for them, then engineered for them, right? They, they-- It's wild. They sit there and, and, you know, it's, it's, it's almost like we've got this psychopath that lives in the cul-de-sac with the rest of the peaceful world, and just occasionally their house starts to fall apart, so they go and they knock on their neighbor's door and↗

2:25:38Ian MalcolmI'm just gonna take out your entire family, and the people are like, "Wait, seriously?'" Like, "Yeah, we got this thing the Sampson option. We don't wanna do it, but I mean, maybe we do because, well, you know..." So you better just do that. And then the neighbor's like, "Okay, fine, I'll pay for everything. Here's my credit card." And then they pay to build the new addition for the house, and the guy sits there and he's like,↗

2:25:57Ian Malcolm"Look at how strong my house is. I'm, I'm↗

2:26:09Ian MalcolmThey just walk down the street, they knock on another door, they threaten another animal, another person, another father, another daughter, right? Meanwhile, they've got like this brothel that they're building in the backyard with this weird person named Epstein, and they're like, "Hey, yeah, we're gonna bring in more children." And the rest of the culdace acts like, "I↗

2:26:25Ian Malcolmthink this guy's sick. Don't call me anti-Semitic. You don't be that way. I was chosen." It's like, "This is what we're dealing with." And once you actually look↗

2:26:39Ian MalcolmBuy, they didn't construct, they didn't do anything for Israel. All they did was they basically blackmailed the UK government and said, "Well, you're losing the war, if, if you want, we can go and blackmail America to come to your aid, and then you just gotta do this little thing for us." Oh, by the way. Right? It's, it's, it's all wild to witness. It, it really is. It's this psychopathic-- It's not even the little brother, it's like the midget brother complex. And then you put up all↗

2:27:09Ian MalcolmYou're a little troll. No wonder you can't stand the Western white Christian people, like obviously. And then you stand next to the big strong Muslim guys, like, yeah, we get it, you don't wanna fight them because you're a bunch of cowards. It's insane. Like, the world is, is held hostage by a bunch of weak, effeminate, largely women willed, right? Because they're basically lorded over by women or by men who behave like women. And then they just sit there, they slither in the background, and then they're like, "Good↗

2:27:39Ian MalcolmHow many medals did you guys win in the Olympics? Like, oh, yeah. Never win anything. Like, they're, they're really incompetent. It, it, it's unbelievable. And if it's not for evil, I don't know what else it is that they would wield to their benefit, because they-- It seems like they can't do anything righteously or justly or even honestly or remotely honestly, but maybe I'm speaking out of turn.↗

2:28:02Speaker 7No, it's hundred percent. Also, Ian, it's like, it's like a, a, a paranoid person. Who believes in rise and kill first, right? Imagine like a paranoid guy who has also an ideology that, you know, he must rise and kill first if he feels danger. And, and this is what we have. And also another thing that is, yeah, you look so important, they-- and, the, the height of their value structure of what is so important is basically the material, money, no, their physical body, their, their, their And then money, and, and they won't risk it for the land, they won't risk it in a fight, they won't risk it in a battle, nothing. And that is why, you know, we say, like, who as an army decides that it is policy to distribute diapers for people who are in tanks, because they, they shouldn't exit the tank for ten minutes to, to poop and come back. This is how much they're not willing to risk their, their, their, their safety. Or bleed for their country. And on the other hand, you've got people who, who believe that the land is part of their family, and it is their duty to bleed for the land. And I was telling you about this National Socialist leader, Anton Szaszi. One of his saying is also, was also very important. He said, he used to say, "The blood in your veins is, is, is a credit from the land, and whenever the land needs it, you give it back." You know, because we are from, from the Soil and the soil, to the soil we return as well. And so you've got this ideology of, I'm not stepping out of the tank, I'm willing to shit in a, in a diaper as, as, as a twenty-year-old. And you've got, on the other hand, someone is telling you, "Oh, I'm ready to bleed for my nation." And that is why for seventy-eight years, you know, they're just killing and killing, but they're not getting anywhere, and now it's downhill, yeah.↗

2:30:03Speaker 6I see there's new speakers. If you wish to speak, please raise your hand so we can get you up here.↗

2:30:09@joann_marieAnd just super quick, so Ian was talking about how they can never build anything and they only destroy, and then he, randomly brought up JFK, and it reminded me of a letter that JFK wrote to his dad when he was twenty years old, and he went to Palestine, and I posted in the purple pill, so it says There were thirteen bombs set off last evening here, all in the Jewish quarter, and all set off by Jews. The ironic part is that the Jewish terrorists bombed their own telephone lines and electric connections, and the next day frantically call-- frantically phoned the British to come and fix them up. So literally what you were saying, JF K also said that to his dad, and yeah, these people, yeah, they will always destroy stuff and ask other people to- To, to build it for them. So perfectly said, Ian. Thank you. No, of↗

2:31:01Ian Malcolmcourse, we have. If they don't come and fix it, it's because they're anti-Semitic, not because, not because they loathe terrorists. It's so insane.↗

2:31:11Speaker 7Yeah, you know, we have a saying in Arabic when we describe their khatm, you know, because they talk about khatm. Kutspa, and the best description for Kutspa is, is a child who kills his parents and goes to the judge to, to get, orphanage money, right? This is, this is them, this is how they operate, the sense of entitlement is, is crazy↗

2:31:33Speaker 6And I remember those advertisements that they were pushing, they're probably still pushing, but I just, I block them, is they, they were advertising for volunteers to come to Israel to pick their fruits and vegetables for them. We need volunteers to come to Israel to, to, to pick these fruits and vegetables for these poor helpless Jews.↗

2:31:53@joann_marieThe audacity of these people, like↗

2:31:57Ian Malcolmseriously. Manual labor? No! No, it's a persecution. Why are you anti-Semitic asking me to pick a thing off a tree that you wanna eat? Like, it-- and actually, I mean Christopher, when you then look at it and you recognize that, that their text-↗

2:32:15@joann_marieDid↗

2:32:24Ian Malcolmhe cut off? Oh man, X, yeah↗

2:32:44Ian MalcolmMost insane of all of it, I think that I've witnessed, and, and I shouldn't say that because, you know, there's elements of this genocide that are just so atrocious, of course, but the, the fact that after the genocide, there were actual headlines coming out of Israel saying, "Woe is us because of the mental anguish we've had to endure genociding the Palestinians." It's like, hey, ex-Excuse me? Like, you are the victims while you're pulling the trigger and you're murdering these children, you are the one that is suffering, like, The degree of insanity, I, I can't even wrap my head around it, right?↗

2:33:17@joann_marieYeah. They made a movie called I Cried in Gaza about how they are like suffering by killing people, like it's literally insanity. These people are crazy.↗

2:33:29Speaker 7The prime minister early, early days, Golda Meir, actually blamed that, she cursed, she said, "Damn you Arabs for making us kill your children." This is like documented. True. It's like we are guilty as, as Arabs, like, "Oh, oh, sorry, Golta, we're sorry, we had to make you kill us." It's like, "Oh my God, you know, you're so, yeah."↗

2:33:51Speaker 8Well, convicted sex- Oh, I'm so good. No, convicted sex offender Roman Polanski said, "Quote, If I serve fifty-eight days in jail, haven't I suffered enough?" End quote.↗

2:34:10Speaker 6Prashant, thank you. I see your hand raised. Did you wanna say something? What's on your mind?↗

2:34:16@joann_marieAlso, good morning, Prashant. He's from, from Hawaii, and I always ask, "How is Hawaii?" And it's an obvious trick question. Hawaii is beautiful. No, iconic, iconic, you're not Prashant.↗

2:34:29Ian MalcolmSomebody- By the way, Biggs put up a GIF of Arnold Schwarzenegger next to Danny DeVito and said about the Germans versus the Jews.↗

2:34:38Speaker 9I mean,↗

2:34:39Ian Malcolmtechnically, I think he's Austrian, if I'm not mistaken, but nonetheless, it's a, it is a perfect vis- it's like a jacked version of JFK next to the original prime minister of Israel. It's just too funny.↗

2:34:51Speaker 6All right,↗

2:34:51Ian MalcolmPrashant.↗

2:34:51Speaker 9I don't want to dissect.↗

2:34:53Speaker 6I, I- Was that iconic speaking? 'Cause that's unacceptable. It is, it is. Iconic, are you an honorable African or you a nigger? I got questions. Okay, mind your, mind your place before you get me pissed off. Okay? Prashant, please go ahead. Christopher↗

2:35:07Ian Malcolmis the nicest guy on the planet, but we're about to see the Hulk come out of him like a trailer.↗

2:35:14@joann_mariePrashant, are you there?↗

2:35:16Ian MalcolmActually, I'll tell you what, Iconic, I'll give you a chance. If you can tell me what three times sixteen is, you can cut the line. What, what would that be, Iconic? That would↗

2:35:25Speaker 9be sixteen three times.↗

2:35:30Ian MalcolmI don't even know what to say. What would be the answer to that equation?↗

2:35:34Speaker 9Hold on, let me take out my calculator.↗

2:35:35Ian MalcolmNo, you don't get to use a calculator.↗

2:35:41Speaker 9it's, forty-four.↗

2:35:47Ian MalcolmIconic.↗

2:35:49Speaker 9I don't↗

2:35:50Ian Malcolmknow. No, okay. We'll, we'll, we'll come back to Iconic. I feel bad for you sometimes, my friend, I really do. Let's go to Prashant. I don't,↗

2:35:59@joann_marieI don't think Prashant is there right now. Prashant.↗

2:36:04Speaker 6Well, we can see Mulberry hasn't had his hand raised, but he's been a dang speaker. I don't know if Mulberry has something on his mind.↗

2:36:11@joann_marieMy girl, I, I love her.↗

2:36:13Speaker 9Okay, 48, 48.↗

2:36:16Ian MalcolmWith, there, yeah, so I was gonna say, I, I don't know how you got it wrong with the calculator the first time, but maybe you found something- No, no, no, I used↗

2:36:22Speaker 9the calculator. I wanted, I wanted to be nice. I didn't know mental↗

2:36:25Ian Malcolmmath, I didn't even use fingers. Oh, you, wait, you got to 44 without a calculator? Yeah. Okay, you got, you know what, Prashant, or Iconic, you got, you got close enough. we'll, we'll play, we'll pretend that this is horseshoes and hand grenades. so Iconic, since you got, within the re- I mean, you got one number correct, let's say. So why don't you go ahead and add your thoughts on, Matthew ten thirty-seven.↗

2:36:50Speaker 9I didn't read that.↗

2:36:52Ian MalcolmOkay.↗

2:36:53Speaker 9I, I read the Bible, I just don't, I, I just don't- No, no, and, and Iconic,↗

2:36:56Ian Malcolmif somebody asked me the same, I, I wouldn't have, be able to pull it off the top of my head. So no, you don't need to feel any shame for that one. But Iconic, if, if the line was that, rather than fol- if, if you follow your mother and father, but you don't follow Christ, then you aren't basically not gonna be able to get to heaven.↗

2:37:21Speaker 9Yeah, it's pretty self-explanatory. don't break away from God's word. Even your parents can lead you astray if they're not following God, apparently.↗

2:37:30Ian MalcolmThat's iconic! I give you, I award you ten points. that was out of ten, that was the best answer I think you've given in any space that we've been in with you. So, that's wonderful. Do you have any other thoughts, before we go to the next speaker, Iconic? Ten↗

2:37:43Speaker 6points to Slytherin.↗

2:37:47@joann_marieI, I love the Harry Potter, the iconic. Wait, wait,↗

2:37:49Ian Malcolmiconic, I, I don't wanna, I don't wanna presume that you're part of Slytherin 'cause they're the villains, right? So, iconic, what Harry Potter faction would you, liken yourself to?↗

2:37:58Speaker 9I don't know, J.K. Rowling website kinda putted me into Slytherin.↗

2:38:05Speaker 10Okay, okay, alright. I had a feeling, I had a feeling.↗

2:38:10Speaker 6I appreciate your honesty, Iconic. Five more points to Slytherin for honesty when they're supposed to be cunning and sneaky.↗

2:38:18Speaker 9Well, their, their whole thing is supposed to be about ambition, you know?↗

2:38:25Ian MalcolmIf you could have an ambition for, let's say tomorrow, right? If you could do something, with the ambitious optimism that you could accomplish something, either for yourself, for your community, or for the world, iconic, what would you wish for everything tomorrow if you had that one, one ambition?↗

2:38:45Speaker 9finish cleaning my house.↗

2:38:48Ian MalcolmOf all the things in the world, the thing that you would want most would be to have a clean house.↗

2:38:53Speaker 9All the things in the world and tomorrow, tomorrow,↗

2:39:00Speaker 9if I could get my 18 mil from escorted.↗

2:39:06Ian MalcolmFrom, from escort, I, that-↗

2:39:08@joann_marieWhat does that even mean?↗

2:39:10Ian MalcolmDo you mean from escrow or, I don't know what the-↗

2:39:13Speaker 9I was escorted and someone owes me eighteen million dollars.↗

2:39:16Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait, this, okay, so hang on. okay, we need to unpack this. So iconic, of all the ambitions that you could have, rather than, I don't know, the, the wars to, to end, for children to be reunited with their parents, instead it is for eighteen million dollars to be awarded to you because you were escorting, were you Escorting something sexually, are you like a, a Peter Thiel playboy or am I misunderstanding?↗

2:39:46Speaker 9so you're asking, what are you asking? You wanna know if I was having sex? No, I, wait,↗

2:39:51@joann_mariewhat, what, what did you even mean with, with your escort, you know, or something?↗

2:39:58Speaker 9Rea- Okay, the reality escort is, is, the word is like a blanket term just so you don't get in trouble with the law. Yeah, I was just going out to eat.↗

2:40:10Speaker 9I'm sorry. What does...↗

2:40:12@joann_marieI have, I have no idea what, what,↗

2:40:15Speaker 6what, like... All right. Well, his, his truly Slytherin, his ambition is for personal gain and success. And, Mulberry has, you said that's a woman, she has her hand raised. Mulberry.↗

2:40:27@joann_marieShe has a wonderful app that, that everybody should check out. And, Mulberry, thank you so much for coming up. How are you?↗

2:40:34Speaker 11I'm great, how are you guys doing? I just wanted to talk about, Matthew ten thirty-seven, forty-two, 'cause this is what you guys were, talking about. many people live within a system that some symbolically describe as Saturn worship, a culture that consumes its own future. Like the ancient image of Saturn devouring his children, each generation often fails to pass down practical skills, wisdom, land, trades, or wealth, leaving their children to start over from nothing, instead of teaching gardening Cooking, craftsmanship, stewardship, and self-reliance. Society increasingly promotes dependence and constant consumption. that's the whole cycle of,↗

2:41:15Speaker 11strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. We're living through that right now. in contrast, the Bible presents a different path. Jesus taught the narrow path, a life centered on serving God, loving your neighbor, building community, and leaving an inheritance of faith, wisdom, and provision for future generations. Scripture repeatedly emphasizes parents teaching their children God's way and passing on knowledge from one generation to the next. When parents fail to do this, destructive habits and patterns continue across generations, what many Christians refer to as generational curses. But the biblical message is also one of hope Through repentance, obedience to God, and faithful dis- discipleship, those cycles can be broken, allowing future generations to inherit blessings instead of bondage. I really feel that our generation and the younger generations are applying those knowledge and skills and trying to break free of these generational curses. You know, a lot of our elders led us astray through public school, through, corrupted churches, through m- social media Through,↗

2:42:25Speaker 11videos and stuff, like I was in a space this morning and they were talking about happy early childhood memories, and they were talking about all of these, Hollywood movies, and, you know, a lot of these same people are in their spaces, and they talk about how they're upset about the degeneration of our society, but then they're promoting the movie American Pie. I remember watching that movie as a child, a teenager, and I would never, as- The mother of four would never, ever, ever let my children watch that movie. It is so perverse and corrupting. So many people became garden hose, as we would call them, because of that. And, you know, so many people ended up as single parents, so many people, just were on this Quest to have sex with as many people as possible, and now they regret, regret it in their thirties and forties that they don't have children, they don't have a wife, they messed up on the women that they wish they married. I have a lot of friends that have told me this, you know, and a lot of women are like, "I wish I picked a better guy out," you know?↗

2:43:32Speaker 11it is crazy, and now seeing so many people becoming aware of that, we're in the hard times right now, and it's up to all of us to create community↗

2:43:44Speaker 11That we can only win this by uniting and not being divided on every little thing which they create e-echo chambers on the internet for this reason. I thought that↗

2:43:53Speaker 9movie, I thought it was realistic. I thought it was-↗

2:43:55Speaker 11No, I couldn't, no. That movie is horrible. it's, it's so unrealistic, and it, it's crazy how many of these movies were like this, that were shoved down our throats when we were teenagers to completely destroy our society, and then again, they were like, "Everyone needs to go to college." They didn't tell anyone about the college debt, you know? And then, oh my gosh, I can go on forever about this, but- It is up to us to continue to walk in the faith of God and not our parents' mistakes. Like if I went down the path of my parents, I'd be doing meth, I'd be a single mom, I'd be doing all of these things. I don't do that. I broke the generational curses because I put all my faith into God and had Him rebuild me. And so I think that is where repentance comes in too, and it's-- there's so much we can do as a community to build one another, build each other Each other up, and they don't want that. They want everyone to be depleted emotionally, spiritually, and stuck in the doomer soil. They don't want people to see what people are building. They corrupt it, they copy it, they create the simulacra of it. They even do that with food. They're like doing 3D printed meat, they're doing fake coffee, fake chocolate. They don't want stuff that's built by God, that's grown by God. And again, too, what people are saying about farming, like, look how much- Media there has been about farming, saying that we're dumb idiots. You know, farming is the most intelligent and most important job there is. You have to be able to survive and grow food and raise animals, and if you don't do that, you die. We feed the entire nation, like it is the most important job. If there's no farmers, there's no food, everyone dies. And look what they do, they make it out to be a dumb, idiot, dumb careers. Farming has the most highest suicidal rates, most people aren't even aware of that. Like it's- It's absolutely crazy. We need to support our farmers. We're losing seventy-seven a day, a day in our country. It's not sustainable. We need to get our food out of big agriculture, out of these monopolies, and shake your farmer's hand, please. Like this, if anything you can do to help fix our country, it is getting to know your local farmer, please. Thank you.↗

2:46:21@joann_marieMulberry, would you like to talk a little bit about, about Europe? Because I think everybody should hear about it, and I, I, dude, I wish it wasn't Mexico, like it's, it's just beautiful. Mulberry?↗

2:46:36@joann_marieSorry, I was picking up the baby.↗

2:46:38Speaker 11yeah, yeah, so we're the first farm-to-fork recipe app where you can buy all of your ingredients from local farmers, in your area, some of them ship, and you can order from them for shipping. it is free to join, free to download. It's only in the US right now because we're American first. All of our products, all of our shirts are organic cotton, organic hemp, only made in the US. All of our packing, all of our- Stamps, everything we do is completely made in the US. I have completely dedicated our entire last two and a half years doing this on top of farming, homesteading, homeschooling, and being pregnant. We just had our fourth in February. I would appreciate if everyone downloaded it, it's on Google and Apple. Like I said, it's free to join if you wanna support our family because we don't take any money from weird investment groups or, any of that. We're completely, self-funded. Please, so- Subscribe nine ninety nine a month, or a hundred dollars a year that would help us pay our developers and continue to expand our app so we can open it up to other countries. yeah, and you can also sell American-made products on there, think Etsy rebranded without the imported garbage, so people can sell baked goods, they can sell soap, they can sell,↗

2:47:57Speaker 11Wool, they can sell yarn, all of these things that we wanna create a small parallel ecosystem outside of these big monopolies. So, it's a mouthful, I'm sorry. That's what our app is. Please download it, Mulberry Tree. Follow us on X, download on Google and Apple. Thank you.↗

2:48:18@joann_marieIt's awesome. Th-thank you so much for coming up. And, yeah, guys, support your local communities. This is how we disconnect from the matrix. Alright, Prashant, welcome back, House Hawaii. Trick question, obviously. I know it's beautiful. Go for it.↗

2:48:39@joann_marieNo, Prashant, why are you doing this to me?↗

2:48:45Speaker 6You can't be trying to be connected to the spaces, Prashant, while you're out there surfing the Hawaiian waves, man. I don't think it works that well.↗

2:48:54Ian MalcolmChristopher, did you ever see the American Gladiator individual Malibu when he got hit in the head? Are you familiar with this? No, wait, what's↗

2:49:04Speaker 6going↗

2:49:04Ian Malcolmon? Nah, well, just making a pop culture reference. If anybody is not familiar, go look up American Gladiators and Malibu, which I presume is where Prashant spends a little bit of time. And Prashant has very loving messages, so nothing but positivity towards him when I say this, but it's a little bit of humor, everybody might find enjoyable. Long story short the individual gets collided with, let's just say, and you can watch the, the replay. American Gladiators, kind of a cool show actually back in the day, right? But gets collided with and, gets knocked unconscious and tells a reporter about how he woke up on a, on a beach with a beautiful sun, a brew, and a babe. And it's a very funny little retelling that he has just moments after being knocked unconscious. Quite the, quite the Hawaiian warrior, at least that's how they presented him in the, In the program, so everybody should check that out at some point. Maybe Joanne, you can get the audio on that fired up, we can have a little bit of a laugh. But first, if BreShaun isn't with us, we'll go to, the Force. The Force?↗

2:50:10Speaker 6Oh, Obi-Wan Kenobi.↗

2:50:12Speaker 12Oh, hey! Hey, what's going on? Hey, sorry, I, I just caught that. Hey, hey, can you repeat? Did you, did you have a question? Sorry, I was doing one, I was like making an infographic, sorry about that.↗

2:50:23@joann_marieOh, no, we were just going to, you, to say hi, how are you?↗

2:50:26Speaker 12Oh, oh, awesome. Hey, great, awesome, great, great to speak to you. Hey, thank you so much for bringing me up on the panel, Ian, Joann, great space, per usual, epic spaces. Y'all I got my headset that I normally use. Can, can you, an-and the other thing, as we've talked about before, I'm trying, okay, so like I'm trying to talk slower and more clear too, so let me know if I'm doing that. but, but do I sound okay right now, volume-wise?↗

2:51:01Speaker 12Good, oh, good to hear. Oh, cool, awesome. Hey, good, by the way, good to see, good to see, obviously Ian, but, we're, we're, with Game of Thrones up here, 'cause I saw Game of Thrones, I saw Jon Snow, so I was like, we got Obi-Wan, Jon Snow, and of course, the great Ian Malcolm, bring, you know, leading us to victory here against the new world order. So, great to be here, thank you.↗

2:51:24@joann_marieOh, So what are we gonna do to, for your birthday? I literally googled when your birthday was, so- Happy↗

2:51:33Speaker 12birthday, Ian! Happy birthday, Ian Malcom!↗

2:51:36Ian MalcolmIan Malcom's birthday is right around the corner. We'll have to do a happy birthday to the, the, the chaos agent himself, as, as Grok would suggest. I didn't know that one, Joanne. That's news to me.↗

2:51:48@joann_marieYes, it's, it's gonna be a great birthday.↗

2:51:52Ian MalcolmI, I was thinking to myself, "Oh my gosh, I, I guess I, I must have gotten wrongfully doxxed again. So now I'm a, a Canadian Asian Jew whose birthday is, I guess, the day I didn't anticipate." Thank you for no, I↗

2:52:04@joann_mariegoogled Ian Malcolm's birthday and I can't believe he had one, it's↗

2:52:08Ian Malcolmfiction.↗

2:52:10@joann_marieYes.↗

2:52:12Ian MalcolmAnd, and Joann, what would that make him, in terms of, astrology? Do you know?↗

2:52:20@joann_marieI don't know. Hold on, let me, let me check. yeah, I don't know a lot about, about horoscopes.↗

2:52:27Speaker 6wow. And looks in, in. We were talking about, you know, not to get a little nerdy and geeky, but, I love nerdy and geeky. What, you, yeah, what is your Harry Potter house,↗

2:52:37Ian Malcolmgood sir? Oh, I, I can't say that I've done it. I, I feel like I wouldn't be the cool ones though. I'd be one of the lesser known. Is, is there one that's like a hippopotamus or something? I, I feel like I don't know,↗

2:52:47Speaker 6you might would be Ravenclaw, but↗

2:52:49Ian MalcolmI, Ravenclaw. Yeah, they↗

2:52:50@joann_marieare the nerd ones.↗

2:52:53Ian MalcolmYeah, I, I would be in the Ner-Ravenclaw. I like the sound of that. It, it, it, you know, it feels especially if, dinosaurs became↗

2:53:02Ian MalcolmJoanne, do you know what your house is?↗

2:53:05@joann_marieYes, it's Gryffindor, but I think Ian would also be Gryffindor and you as well, Christopher. Really↗

2:53:11Speaker 12quick, I have to barge in on what Ian just said because I did-- and you're gonna laugh, this is really true though, I took a class in college, Dinosaurs 101. It sounds retarded, but in that class, I did learn that that is the new science, that's the real science, that, that dinosaurs did evolve from birds. And, and I think,↗

2:53:31Speaker 12isn't-- I don't know who explained that about the Velociraptor, saying it would evolve from a bird? I, I'm not sure.↗

2:53:36Ian MalcolmNo, you're, you're exactly correct. Dr. Alan Grant, showcasing to the kid the, Velociraptor, claw, right? And, and isn't it curious because he talks about how, the, the raptor, it isn't from the front, the one that you see that would attack you, it's from the sides because they've been working collectively together, and even though they weren't the↗

2:54:02Ian Malcolmreferences to what we're doing in this space, right? We're essentially ambushing intellectually and spiritually speaking, the big giant machine with this collective approach, right? We're, we're disseminating information, we're trying to build a, opposition to it that isn't dependent on any one giant warrior, but rather just us speaking the truth, doing so as, again, a collective. And I think, and so we, we, so we are going to be the velociraptors, and, and we're going to defeat the big mighty, brontosaurus that is this That controls all of the, the everything essentially.↗

2:54:37@joann_marieOh, wait, your, your birthday is on Monday. I, I got it wrong. I wanted to↗

2:54:40Speaker 12say, Ian, amazing opening, amazing, epic, Braveheart level, William Wallace level speech. thank you, sir.↗

2:54:48Ian MalcolmNo, of course. Just, just trying to speak into the ether and, I, I mean, anybody and everybody, if you do go to church, just something to think about tomorrow and you kind of compare and contrast, to what your, your preacher might say. I'll be curious.↗

2:55:02Speaker 12Oh, I wanna make clear too, I'm, I'm talking about, and, and, and as Ian explicitly stated, and as I've always explicitly stated, we're talking about peaceful now. So, Braveheart obviously was a violent movie, we When it's intellectual, it's, it of course is an information war. The violence is meaningless right now. They have death rays from Tesla that, you know, Trump's uncle has. So, there you go.↗

2:55:29Speaker 6Good old Donald Trump. Joann, did you have the horoscope or, or whatever that is for Ian?↗

2:55:38@joann_marieOh, I forgot to look at that. I was just looking at the, at, at the actual birthday and I posted it in the, in the purple pill. but right now, let's see, what is it?↗

2:55:52Speaker 6So- Prashant, is your mic working, Prashant, while she looks that up? Are we still Prashantless?↗

2:56:01Speaker 6I reckon we are. I post- I posted, yeah, I posted the, Jewish Oblast flag earlier in the purple pill, by the way, so you can see the Jewish, the original Jewish flag before the Israeli, Satanic Star of Satan was that rainbow flag, which is pushed all over the place. It's not the same exact one, but it's, it's close enough.↗

2:56:25Speaker 6Yeah, I remember mentioning that in the, the Greg rant, Joanne, back in the day.↗

2:56:33Speaker 6Alright Joanne, I imagine you found it.↗

2:56:37@joann_marieNot, not↗

2:56:38Speaker 6yet. Oh, just, what's, when's the birthday? Tomorrow? I got ya. It'll take me three seconds. We're racing now, Joanne.↗

2:56:57Speaker 6I was↗

2:57:04Speaker 6gonna say, don't tell me my,↗

2:57:05Ian Malcolmmy sign is the zodiac, because then, I might be involved in some things I don't wanna be involved in. I'll, I'll, I'll sound rather like the, the Israelis. Nobody gets the reference.↗

2:57:17@joann_marieIt kept giving me like, "Oh, it's gonna be okay, Mercury in retrograde," and I'm like, "No, like right now, like what is it?" And they're like, "Oh, no, you're gonna have good luck." So I kept looking for it. I don't know. Okay, good job, Christopher. So, so Ian Malcolm is Cancer.↗

2:57:37Ian MalcolmAlright, we'll add that to the list. The Asian Canadian Jew, who has cancer. Sorry guys, hate to be the bearer of bad news there.↗

2:57:47@joann_marieOh no, but your horoscope is cancer, no? What, what did Christopher said?↗

2:57:51Ian MalcolmIt's cancer, it's cancer the, what is it, the bowl or the crab or something? Yeah, it's the crab, if I'm correct.↗

2:57:59Ian MalcolmAlright, I'll be Krabby today. Yeah, yeah. But let's go over to, to Mr. Riyad, and then we'll check in with, with Iconic again.↗

2:58:10Speaker 7Yeah, yeah, I, I, I'm interested to hear also from Iconic after I just asked a question, because I, I, I think, it's an achievement, James that he is a guru, scholar, philosopher. And all at the age of thirty, amongst other things, so it's very interesting to pick his brain. But let me, let me ask a question regarding, I don't follow,↗

2:58:31Speaker 7popular culture at all, influencers, all that world is very, you know, foreign to me. But there is a guy that I, that pops up on, on my timeline, he's a kid, his name is Carvickler or Kravickler or so, or something like that. Can just, can someone explain to me that phenomenon? What's that guy For, if, if you don't mind. So on the long term, my bad, go ahead. I'm gonna be honest. No, I'll take it. I'll take a↗

2:59:00Speaker 9quick look. I don't want to get on your↗

2:59:04Ian Malcolmiconic. I'll take a quick stab at this and then I'll be curious for Christopher's thoughts on this, because, and I, I did actually make a post, a couple posts, I think, over the last month or so about this kid, who, I mean, clearly it is irrefutable that he has been pushed by the timeline. Now, you can ask the question of why that might be, and it's worth noting that he's contracted with Kick, right? And so basically, this guy is a,↗

2:59:28Ian Malcolmhe's clearly an astroturf↗

2:59:33Ian MalcolmBy building this brand and getting a portion of the views. At the same time, he has an organization behind him that basically makes money by him making money, right? Essentially, like, think of it like a digital agency. At the same time, the kick platform, when people tune into that, they can sell ads, so therefore they make money off of this thing. So the more money that they put into advertising, the more all of them are benefiting from this machine. It's kind of similar to like the Kardashians, right? The Kardashians were on E! Or whatever program it was, they sell ads. The Kardashians turn around, they use their celebrity status to sell, what is it, perfume, to sell whatever, right? This whole thing, it's, it's a money-making operation. Now, that is the commercial aspect. But if you think about it, I, I believe that there's also a social engineering aspect that takes another form, which is not just this is motivated by money, but very similar to, say, for example, Disney making movies that aren't profitable. I think this kid is obviously being pushed because it benefits social engineering So the question would obviously become, "Well, what is the engineering that society is trying to create?" And something that's worth noting is that this is a guy who has spent a lot-- I shouldn't say a lot, but he's spent some time around and has been defended by Nick Fuentes. Now, if we think of the Fuentes group or army, I'm not being critical of them when I'm saying this, I'm just looking at things honestly, right? There is a large portion of that audi- audience that obviously holds some anti-woman narratives. Now, people might not like that, Monstrously accurate factual statement. He, on many occasions, he being Nick Wentz, has basically hinted, "Why would I wanna be around a woman when I can be around my guy friends, right?" This is a guy who, as far as I can tell, I don't think he's necessarily had all that many, if any, romantic partners of great significance, right? And, and he has somewhat of a, a view towards women that I think some might label as somewhat incel-y, right? It's about make me a sandwich and all these other kind of things. I'm not saying↗

3:01:32Ian MalcolmMasculine and feminine, what would you think of it? I don't wanna say caricatures, but, but roles in society, right? That's a reasonable thing to suggest. What's unreasonable is that all women are bad if they're not making a sandwich, right? And that's a pretty laughable position that he seems to, from time to time, bounce off of. He might say that that's sarcasm, it's humor, it's whatever, but it is kind of a overarching theme or undercurrent of a lot of his content. Now, if we take that and then we↗

3:02:03Ian MalcolmA guy who basically goes out and says the only thing that matters is looks maxing, because it is your aesthetics that will define your success in the world. Well, for a group of people that are incels, that's kind of a weird buddy Right? It's almost like that person would then beget additional animus and animosity against women because they are creating, very similar to Andrew Tate for what it's worth, they're creating a straw man of what you have to be to be desirable to women. Now, the funny part about that is that you see all these videos of all these women that are completely indifferent to this clavicular guy, right? Perhaps it's because of his height or his aesthetics, or most likely, because of a lack of charisma. And let's be real, women don't-- they're not gravitated towards a handsome Exclusively, obviously that plays into it, but it's largely about charisma, confidence, the ability to be convicted of what you're doing, to have a purpose, to have a mission, to stand for it, to be indifferent to some of the calls of, of others, right? And, and so as weird as this will sound, in a lot of ways, a confident unattractive guy is gonna be almost, if not more attractive than a, let's say, non-confident attractive man. Not always, obviously, but the reason Matthew McConaughey is attractive to women Isn't because he's handsome, that's part of it, but it's because he's got a lot of charisma. That's why that whole term "riz" flies around in the subculture of the youth today, right? That is the thing that piques the interest of women. and we can do a whole space on how essentially, if you want them to focus on you, then you as the man should focus on yourself and be somewhat indifferent to what is or isn't attractive to women. Focus on what is or isn't of good to you, of your community, and of your ability to↗

3:03:47Ian MalcolmSo why do I say this? So now you've got this guy that's partnering up with, let's say, a subculture that you could loosely define as incel-based, he's now pushing this idea that all men should just be ultra-vein, hedonistic, and superficial, right? That's only going to make them less attractive to women, both, because they are then going to be insecure because they don't look like this guy and they're not out getting nose jobs as if that's attractive to any woman anywhere for a man to do that, right? So there, the, the Less confident in themselves hold greater animus towards women because their presumption is gonna be that the women are attracted in the men that are that vain and superficial and quote unquote attractive, which is all a big lie. It's all designed to mix up the genders, and it's no different than Andrew Tate. So why does this fly around the timeline? Because it further divides the ability for young men and young women to build a strong nuclear family at a time when the thing that we need most is not more vanity and hedonism and superficiality We need less of that, we need more morality, and that kid is obviously pushing the antithesis of it, which is why he was in Paris, at least in my assertion, he was with Sophia Rain, a OnlyFans girl, who, oh by the way, I don't think is organic at all. I think she was selected by the machine because she looks young, she looks impressionable, she looks innocent. So what is it that is gonna look up to that? It's young women that don't see a whole lot of options, that feel insecure in themselves, and that say,↗

3:05:15Ian Malcolm"Oh And be on a, a private jet, hanging out with this, blah, blah, blah. It's all a ruse, it's all marketing and it's advertising, and it's no different in terms of the social engineering than Kim Kardashian of yesterday. So that's what Clavicular is here to do, to further deroot and deracinate the ability for men and women to fit into traditional normal roles in social cultures, subcultures, in, and let's say the sexual cultures, which at the end of the day, anybody that is seeking, like it, as- The last little call. If you want women to be attracted to you, don't focus exclusively on being attractive to women. And if you think that, oh, by the way, physicality is going to bring you happiness, then you probably haven't had a lot of it. If you focus on the other things, like being righteous, making the most of yourself, whether it's physically, intellectually, spiritually, the women are gonna come running, and what you'll probably find is that in that drove of women that run your way, you're gonna recognize that there's not all that much splendor or happiness in↗

3:06:17Ian Malcolmwoman. Instead, it's finding the right woman that can, that can build something with you, and that in the building, you're gonna find far more happiness than you would in any of the one night stands that happen to be, what do you know, perpetuated by all of these people that are pushed on the timeline via social engineering. And so maybe I'm totally wrong on this, but if you look at it, that feels like what it is. And oh, by the way, the same guy, Clavicular, he goes out with the OnlyFans girl, who, again, I↗

3:06:47Ian MalcolmTalks up to that same woman and, and they share some emojis or whatever it is back and forth. And now what do you have less than forty eight hours later is the clavicular guy supposedly making out with a trans person at some nightclub, right? It's all just demoralization and slop designed to bring down the value and the morality of the young men today so that they can't find an adequate woman of tomorrow, so that we'd have fewer kids, we'd have fewer happiness, and as a result, we're more easily controlled by our base desires, which is exactly Exactly what the You Know Whos are intending. So Riot, I'm not sure if that's of interest, and Christopher, not sure if you agree, but that's some of my thoughts.↗

3:07:24Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, I do agree with many of the things you said in regards to Clavicular. so my quick thoughts on Clavic- Clavicular is that, well, y-you're right, he was associating with Nick Fuentes, and we have to look at a, a sort of a red flag in my mind here is, if you're going to hang around Stop hanging around, Nick Fuentes, to go do your own thing. How in the world are you not gonna be anti-Jew or mention the Jewish problem? Like, are you not a-- Like, when, when are you gonna start talking about the Jews? He's so focused. He, I've, I think in the beginning, I, I don't keep up with this guy, and I try to avoid it, but you're absolutely right, it's pushed all over our timelines. I do believe he's a paid influencer, no doubt, to, demoralize and stuff like↗

3:08:15Speaker 6This to show the youth that men, that women are, you know, that the women are, you know, sexual or this or that or whatever may be that he gave, that essentially they're not good, they're not good in my current state. I'm, I'm speaking, you'll, you'll get there, Iconic. So, anyways, so, and that's just the way that he goes about what he's doing, it just doesn't show that it, it in fact encourages young men to focus on women. And I, and I am a sexist, and you can call me misogynist, whatever may it be. There, most women, over ninety percent of, of women, you know, nine out of every ten women, I roll my eyes at, and I can't-- I, I do agree with Nick Fuentes on the smallest of things, and, and with women, I usually agree with him on, women will take your time, your energy, and your resources, and then what will they give a man in return? Most of them will offer their body. And it's like, you know, that's just so useless and a waste of my time. I forget what, was it a philosopher or some person that was spoken of way back in the day? He said the most-- one of the most honest women you'll meet is a prostitute or something like that. So it's like, if, if I'm looking for a woman for her body, a-- and, and I'm just looking to have a good time, then I-- it would be a much quicker and more efficient way to just pay a woman, a prostitute, to come over to my house,↗

3:09:43Speaker 6Try to court a woman into this sexual degeneracy. A, a woman will make or break a man, okay? She-- in terms of make or break his spirits, his ambitions. If you have the wrong woman in your life, she's taking your time, your energy, your resources. She's gonna distract you from your purpose. She's gonna distract you from your life goals. She's gonna maybe even put up a fight with you. It's gonna be constant arguments. And again, I ask, what are you getting in return? Is she cooking? Like, the woman's role is to maintain An important thing, a lot of women think, oh, this is slavery or this is some sort of oppression, but you see pictures online, you see the memes online, where men are completely content with just having the most minimal things, and that's because after a long day's worth of work, to try to upkeep a huge amount of things in your house is, is quite, quite a chore. So a woman who can decorate, most women will decorate the house to their choosing that they're satisfied with, 'cause they're gonna spend a lot of time there. Men don't really usually have the And I'm speaking generally, okay? Obviously, there's always the exception, okay? women make, there's a sort of phrase that men provide the food and women make a loving meal, men provide the house and women turn it into a home, men provide the children and women, you know, raise them into whatever. So there's like a phrase along that lines. So, you know, the, the modern women that we have In America especially, are very destructive to the culture and even young minds of men, because they try to claim, "Oh, we're being sexualized, we're being objectified." But then the whole freedom, the whole, "Oh, we're freeing women and freedom from oppression," is to objectify and sexualize themselves. So it's like they don't understand that they are doing the thing that they try to claim that shouldn't be done. And women, another thing is, is women out-- have outvoted men. Since women were allowed to vote. So w-- all these, policies that are getting pushed are largely responsible on the, on the part of women who go in there and vote and say, "Oh, but these poor, you know, these poor abused people in these foreign countries, we have to flood our borders." "Oh, but these poor gay people, we just gotta let 'em live their life." They're, they're very different, and there's nothing wrong with saying that men and women are different. It's just the truth. W- women a- are very much↗

3:12:08Speaker 6certain motion to raise children and take care of the house, and they're gonna love the children and say, "Oh, don't you give 'em a spanking, you should be easy on 'em," and the father's gotta be the disciplinarian, and that's just natural. And, the, the women have outvoted us and, and passed along a lot of bad policies which are destroying our country. You know, women try to blame men for the degeneracy online, but it's women who are the product of it. That, that's like,↗

3:12:35Speaker 6I, I could probably give an example, you know, with, with-↗

3:12:39Speaker 12Alright. Was,↗

3:12:46Speaker 6was it men or was it, was it the Jews that encouraged it and just made it happen? We're↗

3:12:50Speaker 12the ones who did it. We're, we allowed it because we don't have an alternative, 'cause we're, 'cause we have to, we have to promote a gold back system and promote getting rid of the Ro- And by the way, Nick Fuentes says the Fed- the Rothschild Federal Reserve would, who by the way, they're, they're my My term for them, the correct term is Talmudic,↗

3:13:08Speaker 12wait, what's the correct term here? Talmudic extremist, or no, Talmudic Jew is extremist supremist. Okay, it's four words, but that's the proper term for what this family has to. There's a quote from his dad, or from the guy who started it all, Amshel, right? So they bailed out the Bank of England in eighteen twenty-five, took that over, game over.↗

3:13:29Speaker 6Yeah, obviously Jews are behind it all. A hundred percent Jews are behind it all, but they definitely subvert women with their emotions and women are the leaders of culture. Women are the protectors and leaders of culture. So when, when women have-- are pushing for a sexually degenerate culture, men have been subjected to that sort of thing. And, and of course, the Jews are behind it all. Like, for instance, did you know the alcohol, the prohibition of alcohol, that was done by European men, and then the, the main bootleggers of alcohol, the main opponents of the prohibition were Jews. Like, did you know Al Capone's money guy was a Jew? I forgot, they called him Greasy Thumb or something like that, 'cause he was Able to pay off the police and stuff like that. So, like, the Jews are absolutely behind it all, no doubt about it. I'm just, you know, I'm just naming some secondary things here. Like I can say, like I can say, you know, the niggers are a huge problem, but then who brought those people over, you know? So it's the Jews. There's still like smaller parts of the branch.↗

3:14:32Speaker 12You shouldn't disrespect them like that, sir.↗

3:14:35Speaker 6Well, there's a difference between an African and a nigger, but that's a different conversation. You ain't gonna talk to me about that.↗

3:14:41Speaker 9I, I, I diminished his manhood when he didn't wanna answer my question.↗

3:14:45Speaker 6What, what question did I not wanna↗

3:14:46Speaker 9answer?↗

3:14:48Speaker 6I'll answer it right now.↗

3:14:53Speaker 6Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I'll let your IQ catch up. But↗

3:14:58Speaker 12sir, to, to back you up, okay, yeah, yes, the Talmudic, Jewish, Which is basically just a form of Satanism, it's not real Judaism, right? They're fake Jews, just like, Dandlzer incorrectly called them, and many of, Henry, that Henry Ford guy or whatever, he called them in an interview, fake Jews, right? That's the term, they're not Jews, they're Satanists. That's why you had Lord Rothschild standing with the witch, the satanic witch, Marina, in front of the Satan summoning his legion of↗

3:15:25@joann_mariedemons. The first, the Jews have- They've been misbehaving since the time of the Bible, like literally, like it's, like, w-w- the, the thing that you're saying about the pharaohs and stuff like that, they have literally been misbehaving since the Old Testament, like the entire Old Testament is them misbehaving. So like, oh,↗

3:15:44Speaker 12the, oh, truth, truth teller actually, he, he nailed it, truth teller. It's, it's these, the Ashkenazi, right? So they're eighty percent, they're most of them, now that's Eastern Europe so that in seven-- this is from the seventh to tenth centuries, right? They, they al-- they can, they, they, the others surrounding, yeah, but↗

3:15:59@joann_mariewe have talked about this, and it's the, the Sephardi, there is the Mizrahi, all of them have been misbehaving. It's not only the Ashkenazi. All of them misbehave because that's what they're--↗

3:16:10Speaker 12That's true. That, by the way, that's, that's a fact as well. You're a hundred percent right about both, both things we're saying↗

3:16:22Speaker 7If you can continue your thoughts because you got interrupted, and then we can move, you know, to other topics, if, if you like. You're, you're so kind, right?↗

3:16:32Speaker 6Yeah, well, I, I, I believe I s- I stated my piece on that. What is the point is there is a difference between men and women, okay? Jesus Christ is the head of men, men are the head of women. It's that simple. Women are to be subservient to men, men are the leaders. It's just natural. In a, in a nuclear family, women have their place, men have their place, children have their place. and, and I, and I could go on for days. Who's↗

3:16:54@joann_marieprinting our money? Who's printing our money? Oh my God, okay, thank you for this. I mean, I, I think the↗

3:17:06@joann_marieWhen men treat women like shit, they are going to only attract women who, who let-get allowed to be treated like shit, you know? So they are obviously gonna be really shitty women because they are going to have like daddy issues and they are just going to, reinforce that, that women suck, right? And same with women who, who do that to men, they are just going to obviously attract really shitty men who are just going to enforce that men are shitty. So we need to- Heal and, and come to,↗

3:17:40@joann_marielike, we, we need to heal ourselves first, like women need to heal themselves and men need to heal themselves and also, Find good women and good men, and, and try not to, to treat them like shit, because they're just going to like, the cycle, the, the cycle is going to keep going, you know? Like, like Myron always is like, "Oh, yes, women are sluts," but which women of value would actually go with him? Like, seriously, like, no, like, what woman who doesn't have, like, daddy issues would like actually go with a man who treats them like that, right? So, yeah, it's, it's↗

3:18:19@joann_marieWe need to heal and we need to come together because it's, it's, it's dividing us so much. And, and, yeah, that's about it.↗

3:18:28Speaker 6I'm not, and I'm not saying all women, by the way. I said nine out of ten. I was very specific about that, 'cause there's women like Joanne, I give the utmost respect to. She's so sweet, she's so kind. When women are-- Okay, so chivalry, let's, let me bring that up real quick. Oh, chivalry is dead. Well, chival Noble women the way noble women ought to be treated, but a, a knight would still slap the hell out of a wench if a wench got out of place, okay? You treat a lady the way she ought to be treated, but it doesn't mean you just treat all women equally, 'cause that's not true. And, and, and sweet old ladies, my heart breaks for them, and I will move mountains should a sweet old lady need my help, okay? So that's just the way it is. Iconic, you're always interrupting people, by the way, and you↗

3:19:19Speaker 7Oh, he's still buffering. Yeah, yeah,↗

3:19:23Speaker 8yeah.↗

3:19:25Speaker 7May I, may I give my, my, my, my cultural understanding of just quickly women and men, if I may. so, and it's, it's crazy again, Christopher, the universal truth. Of someone from the, the Middle East, call it, Arabia, Lebanon, you know, of, of, of the understanding of women's place and men's place and the whole dynamic, the universal truth makes me agree with you almost ninety-five percent. So here's the way I see it. When I understood the, the, the, the Talmudic tribe, aka the Jews, and How they would like to destroy societies, and they have their eye on the white European descent, societies that they wanna fragment and destroy. They went straight for the, the, the, the, the nucleus, the, the, the, the, if you will, the first,↗

3:20:27Speaker 7construction of society or the first pillar of society, which is the family Right? So once, once you have a destroyed family, a dysfunctional family that doesn't operate like families need to operate, then the society at large, loses its quality as a good, healthy society. And in order to do that for them, it was very important to weaponize women↗

3:20:58Speaker 7Against that culture, that, that way of, the way we have been societies for ten, twelve thousand years. So they, they were able to weaponize women, you know, they had, they had a batch in the thirties, then in the sixties, and then, you know, later on, pushing and pushing, and today they have destroyed, they have weaponized women. They, and they also, like you said, Christopher, they weaponize women's empathy as well. Because women, women tend to, to have much more empathy and, and emotion towards, you know, victimhood, and, and they were able to weaponize that. So, so what they did was And suddenly after the fifties, mainly, they, they started selling the idea that a woman who stays at home is kind of oppressed and, and needs to do more, and this is-- and being at home is so stupid. And the way I see it, the way I see it is, is like, if you'd ask me, I'd tell you the, the woman is, is like the, the, the spinal cord of the family. It is the spinal cord. The man can be, let's say The muscle, but you need a spinal cord. It's-- and I always tell it to my friends and, and people that are younger than me, it's like l-l-life as a family, life is, is, is, is a lot of work and effort, and we need to gather at the end of the day in the castle, and that castle is maintained by the woman in terms of emotional support, food, food for the soul, care And care and, and, and tenderness, and then we recharge, we recharge because she was able to create that thing, the home, like you said, Christopher. And then we launch again, the kids to school, the husband for work, and we toil, and then we come back and we huddle in that thing that the woman maintains, and that is Hard. That is a serious job. It takes a good, strong woman that is well balanced and loving and, and caring to do that. Not any female can do that. So that is why you have, you know, good woman and then not as such a good woman. But that is the main thing. And when they destroyed that and they told her, "Oh, you're stupid if you do that, because you're washing clothes and you're making food," it's like Well, optically, yes, but what goes on in terms of dynamic, is, is huge. So, and this is what they did, man. And then, and then eventually with, with feminism and, and extreme feminism that just made them fucking launch at men and, and become manly and argumentative and in your face and then blue-haired and fucking masculine, like they, they-- Women became more masculine and also men became more- More effeminate, and that is the best recipe to destroy the family, and they were able to do that. And guys don't think that the media power they have to get us to see things and twist things. What do you mean women became more↗

3:24:14Speaker 9masculine?↗

3:24:16Speaker 7I, I find it surprising, Iconic, that in twenty years you were able to become a philosopher, a guru, and a scholar, and you still didn't catch the drift of raising one of your hands before you speak. I↗

3:24:28Ian Malcolmseriously,↗

3:24:30Speaker 7like seriously, just raise your hand, dude, and then we, we, we're happy to hear you. So, so, so they destroyed the family, man. They went after religion, they destroyed religion because it unifies, communities and societies. They went After the family, they destroyed the classical roles of what the man's responsibility are and what he needs to do and how he needs to work, to work in life and provide for his kids and his, family and his woman and make her secure and satisfied and all that, and the woman also destroyed completely the role of, of just like- Poor com- like the women, I, I, I really, and, and we mentioned like the, the Kardashians, like the, the social engineering was so deep and rooted, right? so now what we see with↗

3:25:30Speaker 7new Nikk, Nik And it's like, it's like everyone knows that it is so unattractive for a woman to have another woman worrying about the looks of her face and the shape of her nose. It's like the ultimate, buzz killer, like no woman wants that. We are, we, we are more optical. We, we, we are attracted to, to beauty. Women are attracted to strength, strength of character, strength of, of dedication, strength of discipline, strength of, of com- Convictions, this is what they're attracted, and that, that fucking knows, and yeah, maybe it helps, but if, if, if a man is obsessed by that, he's a, he, he's a, no real woman would be attracted to that. So, so yeah, they just did a mishmash on us, man. This Talmudic tribe has been working really well, they study us so well, and they put on their agendas just to destroy us, demoralize us, and ruin our societies, and I think- They got to a point where things now, they're like they, they had their, their run, and people are waking up, people are realizing, people are turning back to the classical, you know, old,↗

3:26:52Speaker 7culture of the roles of the man, the role of the woman, and they're push, they're pushing everything aside, and I think it's a cycle, and now we're gonna go back To, to the right thing of, of making society healthier and better. so yeah, this is how I see it, man. and it's- Well, and, and Ryan, isn't your, your physiognomy,↗

3:27:15Ian Malcolmand, and basically your facial structure, isn't it essentially a, a map of the heritage and the ancestry of who you are? And therefore, isn't chopping it up just about the weakest thing you could ever do, 'cause you're basically rejecting everything that is inside of you and that ultimately led to you?↗

3:27:31Speaker 9Yeah, my SS is building. A hundred↗

3:27:33Speaker 7percent, a hundred percent. I-Iconic, you raise your hand. Okay, the other hint I will give you, when, once you raise it, you wait and, and the host will call you, then you speak. alright, let's, let's go. Let me, let me shut up and give you a chance. Go, go ahead. And, and getting a rhinoplasty is probably the most↗

3:27:50Speaker 6Jewish thing that you could do, getting a damn nose job. But my final touches on this, and then we'll get to↗

3:28:01Speaker 6would be that, yes, I, I'm a, I'm a great protector of femininity, femininity as well. With, you know, a, another example that came up earlier, Mulberry seems like a very sweet lady. She, she's raising her four babies, probably stays at home for the most part, and then the way she contributes to the community is by getting involved in trying to support local farmers with, in, in getting the, the food to the table straight from the farms.↗

3:28:29Speaker 6ladies? You know, all throughout time, if they were to work in the community, they would have feminine jobs, whether it be to make clothes, to help with the food, you know, they would have their own personal gardens outside, you know, help with the land, and they would even go into other people's homes and help them with their homes. So, i-it seems to me as Mulberry is a very feminine lady, and she seems like a very sweet lady, and probably a good mother, that's just, that's an assumption I'm making, but I, I prob- I'm close to↗

3:29:01Speaker 6I, that's where chivalry is. You, you stand up for the women who ought to be protected and, and you can speak your mind ag-against the other women. Joanne and Ian, what are your thoughts? And then you can call upon whomever.↗

3:29:12@joann_marieI, if, if men want women to make sandwiches, be like, "Oh, baby, you're my-- you're the, you're the best sandwich maker. I love your sandwiches. I don't know, like, stuff like that. But saying like, "Oh, make me a sandwich, bitch! We are gonna hate making sandwiches. So, I don't know, it's the bread bill or the man of steel that, like, that is so black building to me. Like, I, I absolutely hate it. I, I- Yeah, I,↗

3:29:45Ian MalcolmWell, Joanne, we'll have to do a space called Red Pill Artards, and we'll, we'll be specific with the language 'cause I don't wanna get booted here from, from Mossad. But I, I, I do sincerely believe that just like Andrew Tate, who, oh, by the way, he was pushing, you know, sign up for, for Tate University, it'll teach you how to be awesome. It's, it's no different than Trump University, right? It's, it's, it was absolutely meaningless. It↗

3:30:14Ian MalcolmLeading these young men to is, is basically a path to nowhere except kind of the incel society, because the whole thing is aimed at demoralizing both of the genders, right? And it's, the weirdest part is, I do think that actually the red pill world, for anybody that, that, has read into this, I do think at its origin there was a there there, right? The, the, the origin of the idea of negging on women, which was basically to, you know, don't, don't put them onto a complete pedestal, instead you have to come A little bit, I don't wanna say on guard, but you have to stand out, right? And if every single guy is just lining up to knock on the door and say, "You look beautiful," well, then how are you gonna stand out from that? And I do think that there's probably an organic community once upon a time for people that were trying to learn, you know, what they would, I guess, loosely call pickup artistry, but that whole thing quickly devolved into nothing other than just another grift, and all the people that basically built that grift up, they Into the zeitgeist in the event that they were also doing either the demoralizing or the deracinating of the nuclear family, right? So it was all about ultimate hedonism, basically just being-- It's not even, it, it, it's not masculine, it's just chauvinistic to a joke, right? And I, and I keep going back to Andrew Tate, but I mean, literally the guy walks around in a bathrobe and his pajamas with a cigar, like he is a joke. He's a cartoon character, and anybody who doesn't see through that↗

3:31:44Speaker 7If I may just answer a quick thought to the fourth, just quickly be, because, because before the conversation veers a bit, because it's very important, and this is where, where I, where I believe, you know, the creator, you know, the wisdom behind the universe had made it, has made it perfect. And, and the, and the way I see it is that if you ask, women about broad shoulders on a man, they'll tell you It's attractive. They're attracted to broad shoulders. Well, what does, what does that tell me? Why is it designed that way by the creator? It's because the broader shoulders promises more security at the door of the cave, more security against other tribes or, or other animals or, or in, in fetching wood. It just broad shoulders may mean strength, and women want security, so they're attracted↗

3:32:38Speaker 9to the last↗

3:32:40Speaker 7If you ask iconic, again, Jesus man, and, the hourglass shape of a woman, right? That's almost primordial, like it's attractive, this hourglass shape. Well, if you look at the hourglass shape and you look at studies, you'll find that the, it's indication of fertility. There's a hundred percent the studies are there, that thing tells fertility. Now, why,↗

3:33:06Speaker 7this, did the creator, make us attractive? To fertility. Well, because he's, he's, he's pushing us to create families. Why would she care if he has broad shoulders if he's gonna screw her and leave? No, it's because he's gonna stay because it should be, and we are attracted to repro- reproduce like women with, with good fertility because God is pushing us to create families, and that is the design. Now, anything, that is not that of man, woman staying together, building a family Family, that is the perfect design, that's why, how it's been all the time. Now, if, if Andrew Tate wants to fucking recreate the wheel by opening his house, his home, you don't understand in, in our part of the world. In your home, you have women sat down like, like, like, like a, a product. This is a whorehouse by any standard of the imagination, and that makes that man the lowest scum of the earth we would spit if we meet him. So, so yeah, the degeneracy is just crazy. One more question, Ian, what does incel mean?↗

3:34:15Ian MalcolmWell, it's, it's basically a, a guy who has, it's, it goes back to voluntary incel-er celibacy, right? So this idea of, the individual that is, is not able to attract the opposite sex, there, therefore, there's some animosity towards women. once upon a time it was this idea of, "I'm voluntarily-↗

3:34:37@joann_marieYou cut off again.↗

3:34:39Ian MalcolmOh man, X didn't like that one. Yeah, the, the idea of, "I'm gonna voluntarily drop out of the sexual marketplace because all of the options are so bad." That was basically what this community kind of, evolved out of, right? We're all, we're all in our parents' basement and no women like us, so therefore we hate women, and therefore we're gonna be, we're gonna be celibate, we're not gonna ever be with any women because they're the worst. No, those people aren't gonna be with any women because↗

3:35:06Ian MalcolmDon't have anything of value to bring to the table because they've been, basically demoralized to the point that they've just given up. And it's, it's really sad. And, and as, as a little piece to, to go back to the JQ really quickly on this, it's worth noting that just like we're being attacked from full spectrum psychological warfare and spiritual warfare at every turn, there's also the physical aspects of this that we're all aware of, right? The, the idea of the, the waters turning the frogs gay. Well, if you look into the↗

3:35:36Ian MalcolmAlthough there's a play, there as well. But if you look into birth control pills, right? If you look into the sexual referencing of women that are on- Is↗

3:35:46Speaker 9the water turning the color gray?↗

3:35:48Ian MalcolmGoodness, you know what? I'm just gonna remove you at this point. We've tried. if you look into-- and don't request again, I will just remove you from the space. so if you look into the studies, when it comes to women on birth control, they prefer- In all studies that I've seen on this, they prefer less masculine faces. So they're actually more attracted when on birth control to men that have, for example, narrower jaw lines. Now, you take the women off of those, and their sexual preferences go back to more masculine men. Now, the, the curious piece is that this has to do, just like you were saying, Riaad, these things all go back to essentially a primordial ooze, and what I mean by that is that traditionally, women- Even when they were on their cycle, when they were most fertile, they would be most attracted to hyper-masculine men that had hyper-masculine physiognomies. Their face showed that they were more likely to have a more masculine, let's say, set of genetics, right? Vice versa, when they were less fertile, they wanted to be around a more feminine or effeminate-looking man. Now, there's a number of reasons that we can draw conclusions as to why that might be. Maybe it's around security, sensitivity, maybe men that are less hyper-masculine Or less violent, all kinds of things, right? But that women would be sexually attracted towards those men that were masculine. Now, here we are in modernity, and masculinity is now toxic, and women are regularly given drugs that basically make them attracted to, and if you don't-- If you need a good example of this, think about Justin Bieber or, Johnny Depp. They are men that clearly have more androgynous facial features, but are considered extremely attractive. You take the women off of birth control, they're gonna be more traditionally attracted to the Chris Hemsworth type of indi Individual or somebody like Clint Eastwood, right, that's very traditionally masculine facial features. And so this, this is an engineering effort. They are trying using dating apps and the web and pornography and OnlyFans, they're trying to re-engineer and rewire, essentially dating preferences and the interest or lack thereof in pursuing those options. And then even for the people that participate in it, they're trying to rewire their psychological understanding through things like the red pill and the man Atmosphere and all that other stuff, and by pushing the OnlyFans girls and their ideology and their rhetoric onto the young impressionable women of tomorrow. So it is a complete assault on everything for the complete destruction of birth rates, and then you see people like Elon Musk whining about the output of this without, of course, ever looking at the root cause of it, which is just so infuriating on so many levels. but, thought I'd throw out that little piece of kind of, not pop culture, but it's more science around, again, dating pre- Differences and also the impact of the, the physical aspects all the way down to the pills that were being given by the pharmaceutical companies.↗

3:38:39Speaker 6Well, it would have been Iconic's turn now, but he done did himself in. We'll let, we'll let him, we'll let him up one more time. We'll go to, I wanna be, yeah, let him up, I wanna hear what he's,↗

3:38:50Ian MalcolmI'm gonna turn down the, I'm gonna turn down the volume, you guys can listen to Iconic or you can turn off the volume for approximately sixty seconds, but,↗

3:39:02Speaker 9Yeah, I wanna do a rally, a Christian rally. I'm, I'm willing to give everybody that shows up a thousand dollars or two, maybe two thousand.↗

3:39:14Ian MalcolmI don't know where to begin, Iconic, but↗

3:39:16Speaker 7that's the whole pitch? Okay. So that's the whole pitch?↗

3:39:19Speaker 6Okay. Was there anything else that you had on your mind? Thank you for sharing that, 'cause you, you were, I know that's not what you were trying to get out this whole time.↗

3:39:28Speaker 9Yeah.↗

3:39:31Speaker 6Alright, alright, well, we'll go to Joanne. She, she's a sweet woman, what are you doing with your hand raised as the dango host? You ought to be speaking. We'll go to Joanne. We'll try Prasad one more time, I don't know what, what's going on with his mic today. Then we got the, the gentleman with the name down there with the yellow logo, and then we'll go to Mulberry. Go on, Joa-↗

3:39:52@joann_marieOh,↗

3:39:52Speaker 6yeah, I,↗

3:39:53@joann_marieI just wanted to add about the insult situation. So, I don't know if you guys know who Elliot Rodger is, but it's like a guy who killed, a lot of people, like, I think six or something, and injured like fourteen or something, I can't remember. But, he was an insult, and he was like super angry with women because women didn't want to go out with him, but he never asked women out. So there is a lot of insults out there who are, who are like angry with women↗

3:40:21@joann_marieWomen won't go like they, they are, they feel rejected without even asking them out, which like guys just ask, ask them out and, and yeah, obviously you're gonna get rejected a couple of times, but just keep going, like you're gonna find a good one. And Yeah, no, it's, I, and if, if she says no,↗

3:40:43Ian Malcolmjust take a hint and walk on and move on. And oh, by the way, each time you strike out, you're going to do better the next time because you'll learn from your mistakes. But don't pester, don't overly pursue, and certainly don't, harass somebody.↗

3:40:57@joann_marieBut don't have, have girls out, because, it's, it's wild, it's insanity. And, yeah, I think they are like mislabeling the toxic masculinity thing into the, like, insane, insel situation. I don't think that's toxic masculinity at all. I think it's like another completely different, thing, because It's, it's, it's wild, but there is a couple of them who are literally insane. They genuinely think that we want to like have sex with dogs and that,↗

3:41:29@joann_marienot wanting to have sex with them is reverse rape, and that we need to be like punished for it. Like they, they are just crazy, and it's just a, a, I don't know, a division, like a weird, crazy division of them, but it's,↗

3:41:44Speaker 6The bear in the woods meme that went on for a couple years didn't help men, by the way. Oh, I, and I'm not saying like a lot of people believe↗

3:41:52@joann_mariethis, it's just like a couple like that are like insane and I don't know how they arrived in these conclusions, but yeah, just ask girls out, guys. And obviously when they say no, just leave them alone and like try with other one. Okay, that's it, sorry, go ahead, please, super.↗

3:42:09Speaker 6Oh, oh, present, give a thumbs up, is he able to talk now? Go on, Prashant. Can you↗

3:42:13Speaker 13hear me? Can you hear me?↗

3:42:15@joann_marieYes, finally!↗

3:42:17Speaker 13Oh man, you heard me once, Joanne, and then, and then somebody or something turned my mic off in settings. 'Cause I, you responded to me that you heard me when I talked about Hawaii, but then right after that, my mic got turned off.↗

3:42:31@joann_marieNo, we haven't heard you at all.↗

3:42:34Speaker 13You never heard me at all. Oh, okay. Well, you hear me now, so that's good. Yeah, it's been an interesting conversation, but there's been so many s-- topics, go on. One to the other, to the other, to the other. I could have comment on every one of them, but I don't even remember them all. So I'll just start and see what happens. You know, I, Christopher talked about nine out of ten women had problems, and I would add that nine out of ten men have problems. And why is that? you know, men and women are both, let's say, out of balance, to put it mildly, or sickly in some way. And why are they sickly? They're sickly for something that Mulberry brought up, and she's gonna talk maybe soon again, but she brought up the most important thing, which was the farming. Not only the farming, but the method of farming, because the food supply is something that every one of us has to do every day, every one of us. We have the most toxic food supply probably in human history. And guess what that food supply does? It messes with men's and women's hormones. So does the medicine. So do the vaccines. So essentially, we have a very, very sick society, both men and women, and their sexuality is one of the sicknesses caused by the food supply, caused by the agriculture that is the most toxic agriculture probably also everything in human history. You know, I heard somebody early in the conversation say Reference to talking about agriculture and food supply and say that it wasn't very important that we need to focus more on the scriptures. But God tells me we need to focus on the food supply. So, you know, I mean, I don't, I could go on some more and a-about the scripture, the subject of the, of the space, you know, on the topic, talk about the Gospel of Matthew. That's great. Well, I study three other scriptures three times a week, and they come from the Indian subcontinent, and to me, they're just as valid as the Bible. One of the things that Mulberry said also, or somebody said, "We've gotta come together." Well, if you contradict everybody else's beliefs and everybody else's scripture, and you think yours is the only one, the only true one, how are we gonna come together? We can't. You gotta quit be-- you gotta get over your supremacy. Believe what you believe, but let other people believe what they believe, as long as nobody's hurting anybody. That's what my teacher taught. My teacher, I, I, I had a great teacher. I, I started with him for twenty-five years, and he said that the family is the best basis of society. But you know what he said how a marriage succeeds? He said both the man and the woman have to give up things that they absolutely don't wanna give up. That's how he said a marriage would succeed. And this teacher, he was, he was a yogi. I heard mild criticism of yogis. You didn't know this man, 'cause if you did, and if you studied with him, you couldn't criticize yoga. You only criticize yoga because you don't know what it is. It's the science of the mind. And the only reason any of us in this room have any trouble with anything is because of what we think in our mind. And when you control those thoughts, you have no trouble. You have no trouble with anything. That's what yoga teaches. And so yoga is one of the most profound philosophies ever on the planet, also. The problem is most people just don't know what it is, or haven't put, put the time in to study it. There's another scripture from India, the Bhagavad Gita. I consider that on par with the Bible, incredibly well. I've studied that thing for twenty-five years. I studied it on Thursday, I'll study it again next Thursday. It's got the most profound philosophy and direction about how to live moral lives. But when people say that their way is the only way, that's supremacy. So I've talked a lot, I'll stop.↗

3:46:40Speaker 6Thank you so much, Prashant. I just want-- I think your, your response about the food, about not worrying about the food, and Jesus Christ, in my opinion, is the way, the truth, and the life. But anyways, so the-- My response to the food, it does say in Genesis that whenever Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden, that men would have to till the ground and, and work by the sweat of their brow. So when we say, you know, not-- And it also says in the scriptures that a man that doesn't work doesn't eat.↗

3:47:09Speaker 6Matthew, about, not, not, worrying about the food and stuff like that. Essentially, that goes back to, you know, most people didn't just have a grocery store, you know, there were food markets, but you still had to work to get to the food markets, and if you had a, a, farm, you would have to, or a field, you would have to go out there and farm the field, sow and reap and whatnot. So, you know, in those times, there was a, a great-- before irrigation was around, there was↗

3:47:39Speaker 6Wouldn't be able to grow. So that, that would ease a lot of people's minds in knowing that, listen, you know, it's all gonna work out, you're still gonna be fed. but you're, you're only fed when you, when you work. So when I was homeless, I wasn't jobless. When I chose to be homeless on purpose, I, I wasn't jobless. I was still working and I was still able to eat. And, and even though my food supply was short, I was still working and I was still able to eat↗

3:48:10Speaker 6And you sit on your hands. but that's just my thoughts, if, if anyone else wants to get into it. And then don't forget the golden speaker down there with the name, then Mulberry. And then I see we have special guest Michael, down there. Ian or Joanne.↗

3:48:23Speaker 13Christopher, can I ask you a question?↗

3:48:26Speaker 6Oh, go ahead, please.↗

3:48:26Speaker 13Yeah, you just said what I don't, I'm not, if I misquote you, you tell me what you said. But you said something like, "Sir, yes, sir," you said something like, "Jesus Christ is the Word and the, and the way and the only way," or something like that. Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life? Do you believe that that's the only way? Correct. Do you believe that that's the only way to the way, the truth, and the life?↗

3:48:46Speaker 6Wait, wait, what do you mean? I'm saying Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, and I do believe there's an afterlife. I don't believe that we die and we're simply here by accident. Now he's gonna try and say that your↗

3:48:55Ian Malcolmview is, is therefore the only view, and he's gonna call you a supremacist again.↗

3:48:59Speaker 13I'm, and you don't have to say what I'm gonna say, Ian, 'cause I can say it well. I'm a man. Is, is that what you're gonna say though? I can say what I wanna say. I can say what I wanna say. I'm gonna ask Christopher, "Do you think that Jesus Christ is the only way to the truth, the way in God? Do you think that?" Well, you're a supremacist, period and a story. You're no different than the Jews. I am, and I am no different than the Jews. Where did you get that idea? I'm a white↗

3:49:23Speaker 6supremacist. You're no different than the Jews. I'm a white supremacist. How, how do we begin this?↗

3:49:28Speaker 13You're no different than the Jews. You're just a Jew supremacist.↗

3:49:32Speaker 6No, no, no, no. So there's a difference, okay? So the Jews point-- Wait, wait, wait. There's a difference. Prashant, Prashant, Prashant, let me explain, please. Okay, yes, I'm a supremacist, but there's a difference. And if we're gonna do pop culture references, we'll bring out Uncle Ben from Spider-Man, with great power comes great responsibility. So the Jews are a supremacist in the way that they believe the world owes them something, in the way that the world should be a slave to them. I believe↗

3:50:01Speaker 6We are supreme, but it doesn't mean that the world owes us something. It doesn't mean we get to oppress other people. It now means that we have a great duty to help out the way that we can without sacrificing ourselves too much. the same way that a shepherd is supreme to the sheep, just because, or I have chickens, okay? So I'm, I'm supreme to my chickens out there, but that doesn't mean that, like, I get to be terrible and evil. Now I have a duty and a responsibility to make sure those chickens are fed, that they're, Protected from, the, from, predators out there. So I'm absolutely a supremacist, but that isn't-- There's no, you know, you're, you're thinking of the common negative connotation that the, that the Jewish media has pushed out, "Oh, you're a white supremacist." Yes, I am. I'm also racist. I'm also sexist. I'll go down the list.↗

3:50:49@joann_marieAnd, and for what it's worth, I do believe that you can get to God through yoga and all of these things. Ob- obviously, I believe that Jesus is There's different ways to get there, but I'm not saying that wh-whatever your belief system is- And for what↗

3:51:07Ian Malcolmit's worth, Prashan, if you had been here at the beginning of the space, I walked through the gospel, and then I explicitly called out, and you're welcome to go back and listen to the recording, how it doesn't matter if you believe in Christ, if-if you believe in Mohammed, if you believe in, I think I referenced Neo or Luke Skywalker, and I said that it is about finding a center and finding something that you stand for that allows you↗

3:51:31Ian MalcolmCome in here and suggest that it's supremacist because I used the Bible upon which to build the foundation to share those ideas, referencing the passage. You've also called me, and look, Chris says he's a supremacist. I don't throw around those terms. I am opposed to Jewish supremacy, and I'm standing with anybody and everybody. And if you look around this panel, I see a whole lot of people that are white, that are black, that are Muslim, that are all sorts of things, and I'll stand with all of them if they are good. But you wanna come in and either start↗

3:52:00Ian Malcolma Encapsulate that lie, you wanna go into other spaces and say, "Oh, Ian Malcolm is a white supremacist, Christian supremacist, whatever, based on ignorance." Please stop. It's really tiring. I don't know if it's an IQ thing or if it's just you attempting to be malicious, but either way, it's not gonna work. But I'm gonna allow you to respond, but please stop putting words into certain people's mouths like myself.↗

3:52:23Speaker 13Okay, and I will respond, thank you. I never called you a Christian supremacist, if, if I did, I was wrong. So I said that Christopher was a supremacist, and he admits it. So what have I said that's not true?↗

3:52:36Ian MalcolmYou said, "Did you not, that if somebody believes that Christ is the way, that they are a supremacist?" That's what you↗

3:52:53Speaker 13said↗

3:52:55Ian Malcolmto↗

3:52:57Speaker 13Christopher. No, no To God, the only truth, the only truth as a Christian would.↗

3:53:09Speaker 6Yes, yes, we actually discussed this in the beginning when we said that if you love your mother or your father more than Jesus, more than God, that you're going against the wishes of God and that you won't be saved. So absolutely, I mean, you should love God and you should love Jesus more than you love, your, your children more than you love your, your, your, your wife or your husband or your parents, and to get into more of that supremacy. See, here, here's another example. H-husband is supreme to his wife, and it doesn't mean that he oppresses his wife, it doesn't mean he bosses his wife around in a, in an unhealthy way. It means that he's responsible for her, he's a leader for her, he's to protect her, he's to provide for her, so that way she can fulfill her duties as a lady. So, like, there, there's, there's supremacy all throughout, you know, are, are we to say that, you know, lions are the king of the jungle?↗

3:54:03Speaker 6It's not equal, okay? That's just the way it is. There, there's going to be a supremacy, and it has to be healthy, and, we can't, to say that everyone's equal, all races are equal, all people are equal, that is a, a globalist communist ideology.↗

3:54:18Speaker 13Can I respond? Can you talk to me?↗

3:54:22Speaker 7Sorry, may, may I respond just, come in quickly, and then I'll, you can, you can, you↗

3:54:26Speaker 13can- So that I don't forget what I wanna say. That's what↗

3:54:31Speaker 7I wanna↗

3:54:32Speaker 13do↗

3:54:33Speaker 10My, can I speak? Yeah, I'll, I'll go↗

3:54:35@joann_marieto you in a second, Papa.↗

3:54:37Speaker 10Can I speak? It's my turn. No, it's not. It's my turn. I'll, I'll↗

3:54:41@joann_mariego to you in a second. I am,↗

3:54:42Speaker 10I am waiting. I'm waiting for- How,↗

3:54:44@joann_mariehow is he talking through the mute? Yeah, you can keep waiting, just raise your hand and I'll go to you, okay? Now I'd like↗

3:54:52Speaker 13to, now I'd like to respond to Christopher. Oh. I think, I think his supremacy is violent, I think it's the problem, and I think it's untrue, and it's no different than Jewish supremacy, and I never said that about↗

3:55:04Ian MalcolmChristianity is violent.↗

3:55:06Speaker 13I never said that, Ian.↗

3:55:08Ian MalcolmAm I hearing things? Did you not just say that? No,↗

3:55:11Speaker 13no. You gotta listen, you gotta listen, Ian. I said, if somebody thinks that Jesus is the only way and that Christianity is the only true way, that's violent. I didn't say Christianity is violent. How is that violent? How is that violent? Let me talk. Let me talk. Let me talk. Don't interrupt. I didn't say Christianity was violent. I said when somebody believes that Christianity is the only truth and every single Christian believes that Kashan created the world. You won't let me talk, so why should I even try? You wanna interrupt me, you don't want anybody else interrupt, but you wanna interrupt↗

3:55:44@joann_marieme.↗

3:55:53Ian MalcolmWhy is that? Hey, hey,↗

3:56:00Speaker 13You, you, you just said something very ignorant, Ion.↗

3:56:03Ian MalcolmWhy is that, why is that ignorant? Very ignorant.↗

3:56:05Speaker 13And, and let me ask a question. Why does every-- No, you don't let anybody else interrupt anybody else, but you all interrupt me. Why is that? Maybe because I'm selling, selling you something that you don't wanna hear. What, what do you think? No, no, no, no, no,↗

3:56:17Speaker 7no. I, I actually, I think other people are making accusations. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no↗

3:56:30Speaker 13I'm↗

3:56:30Ian Malcolmjust↗

3:56:31Speaker 13pointing out that you've made multiple accusations and↗

3:56:33Ian Malcolmyou've, you've made accusations about literally the entire religion of Christianity that obviously- No, I haven't↗

3:56:38Speaker 13made any accusations about the entire- No, I haven't. As you have, because↗

3:56:41Ian Malcolmif the suggestion is anybody- Yes, you↗

3:56:43Speaker 13have. I have not. I have not.↗

3:56:44Ian MalcolmI'm gonna mute you again. Because if the accusation is that anybody that believes that Jesus is the way to heaven, which is foundational to Christianity, if that is your position, then you are suggesting that all Christians are ergo Christian supremacists and are violent. That You're a moron.↗

3:57:01Speaker 13That's not my position. You want me to respond now? Don't interrupt. I said simply, and I've already said it a number of times, if you believe that Christianity is the only way and Jesus Christ is the only way to God, then you're a supremacist. I didn't criticize Christianity. Oh my God, I'm a supremacist. Let me finish, for fuck's sake.↗

3:57:22@joann_mariePrussian, this is insane. You don't,↗

3:57:24Speaker 13you always interrupt me because you don't wanna listen to what I have to say. Stop it!↗

3:57:31Speaker 13I said once again, I am not criticizing Christianity, I am not criticizing Jesus Christ, I am criticizing it when you take it to the point of supremacy, because that's what causes wars. I wish you people could come to understand that, 'cause if you don't, you are the problem. Thank you. Thank you.↗

3:57:51Ian MalcolmThe↗

3:57:51Speaker 12Rothschilds↗

3:57:51Ian Malcolmcaused it. Alright, alright. okay, so hang on, hang on. So, Persephone, maybe you're ignorant on the fact that Christian doctrine literally teaches That Jesus is the way to heaven, which you have now defined is in and of itself supremacist in nature, that is fundamental to the text. Now, people are welcome to practice whatever religion they want, as long as they aren't infringing on others. I don't care if you practice neoism or Luke Skywalkerism or Muslim, if you're Is-- let's say you practice Islam, or if you practice yogiism, I guess is your philosophy, I don't care. Right? There's nothing that's supremacist about you believing- Or subscribing to a set of ideas. It's, now if you take yogi-ism and you say, "Here's my yogi mat, I'm gonna go stab everyone with it that doesn't sub-subscribe to yogi-ism," then sure, that's violent. But that's inherently the opposite of the Christian text, which tells us to love your neighbor as yourself. So you're either ignorant on these things or you're just indifferent to the, the, let's say, implications of them, and I don't know which one it is, but it's a very strange position that you're↗

3:58:58Ian MalcolmYou are suggesting that the fundamental core principles of Christianity are supremacist because inherent in that is the supposition that you're going to go out and start the Crusades because of them, which are, that's antagonistic towards the basic principles of Christianity. So which is it? Are you-- Are you ignorant on the principles? I suggested,↗

3:59:16Speaker 13I suggested no such thing.↗

3:59:18Ian MalcolmAre, are you just gaslighting us now or do you not know what you're suggesting?↗

3:59:21Speaker 6Let's, let's, I want to understand what your definition of↗

3:59:24Ian Malcolmviolence is. Okay, so first, Sean, let's understand what you're saying. I want to hear this very basically. According to you, if you believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to, let's say, heaven, you are a supremacist. Is that correct?↗

3:59:35Speaker 13Yes, you are violent and a supremacist.↗

3:59:37Ian MalcolmOh, you're-- Okay, so you're violent and a supremacist. But why are you bringing violence into this? When I, when I suggest that you believe that anyone that subscribes to Christianity is violent and a supremacist based on your logic, you've now said that I'm both wrong and that I'm right. Which one is it?↗

3:59:51Speaker 13I didn't say that.↗

3:59:53Ian MalcolmNow you're just gaslighting. This is why-- No, I'm not↗

3:59:55Speaker 13gaslighting.↗

3:59:56Ian MalcolmI'm-- Listen, Cliff, this is gonna be unbelievable. I'm not gaslighting↗

4:00:00Speaker 14Prashant, it seems, it seems Prashant, though, that you are-- Prashant, Prashant, it seems as though you're a pacifist and maybe a bit of a modern hippie, because the truth is, is in the Bible it says there's a↗

4:00:15Speaker 14time, it says there's a, it says, well, well, I'm not, it's no insult, I'm just Now listen, in the Bible it says there's a time for war and a time for peace, a time for love and a time for hate. Okay? Now if you believe that, if you understand that Jews are, or there, there's Jewish supremacy going on, then you have to understand that they're not just gonna give up their seats and then go and live somewhere out in the, in the distant yonder blue and leave everyone alone. Unfortunately, there will be something that comes from it in some form of war, okay? That, you know, not advocating for kinetic violence isn't- As even words go, but that is the natural outcome if we are to fight against Jewish supremacy. Prashant, do you think that we're just gonna preach to these people, to the Jews, you're gonna go over there and start preaching the yogi spirit to 'em and they're gonna start saying, "Yeah, we're gonna become yogi bears now"?↗

4:01:08Speaker 15You know what I'd do if I was president? I would order the military to go to Israel, attack Israel, stop them from killing anybody, arrest Netanyahu, and send him to ICC for his trial. And that seems kinda↗

4:01:19Speaker 14supremacist, if you ask me. No, no, no, it's not supremacist.↗

4:01:22Speaker 15There's nothing supremacist about stopping Netanyahu and the Jewish army from killing innocent Palestinians. What's supremacist about that? What's the matter with you? What's happy about that, bro? What's happy about me taking the US military over there and stopping the Israeli army from killing Palestinians? What's happy about that, bro? Hey, tell me what's happy about that, bro. For Sean.↗

4:01:43Speaker 14For Sean. I'm glad to hear that you do have a baby. Yeah, maybe you should listen a little↗

4:01:47Speaker 15more.↗

4:01:49Speaker 14Okay, but no, this is the first time you've explained to me that you're willing to, you know, go and stand up against Israel, okay? Yeah, but why did you call me all these-- Why↗

4:01:57Speaker 15did you call me all these hippie names and con-condemn yoga when you know nothing about yoga? When you know nothing about yoga.↗

4:02:05Speaker 14Listen, I don't, I don't, you're, you're taking great offense to the word hippie and possibly offense to the word pacifist, and I'm glad you clarified. Taking offense↗

4:02:12Speaker 15to your making false accusations about what↗

4:02:17Speaker 14Prashant, I, I appreciate you, and I'm thankful that you've clarified it. Alright, alright. Now I'm not gonna call you those mean words anymore. it seems as though you have a bit of backbone to you, and that you're willing to stand up against Jewish supremacy, and I'm glad to know that you are, you are capa-- you are capable of violence as any man ought to be.↗

4:02:37Speaker 15It ain't violence, bro. That's another mistake you're making. It's not violence.↗

4:02:41Speaker 14Okay, then what's the definition of violence? Because we got hands raised↗

4:02:47Ian MalcolmThat's the definition of↗

4:02:48Speaker 15violence, right? That's the definition of violence. And me going over there and physically fighting them and killing them isn't violence, okay?↗

4:03:00Ian MalcolmAlright, so killing people in the name of self-defense, not violence, but practicing Christianity is violence, right?↗

4:03:05Speaker 15I never said that, Ian. Why do you say this is gonna be great? Why do you say stupid things? Dude, Pashon, is the ayahuasca good over there, buddy? And the next question, Ian, why do you say stupid things that I never said? Because↗

4:03:16Ian MalcolmI'm going to go back and I'm going to grab the clip of me asking you-- Go ahead, bring it back. Go ahead, bring it back. Go ahead, bring it back. I'm The only way to heaven. Does that make them therefore supremacist and violent? You said yes. Not with some context, you said yes. I then asked you this, I then made the accusation about you, and you said, "That's not what I said." So then I asked you again, and you said, "Yes." You have said yes and you have said no to the exact same sets of questions. And then when we suggested that you said yes to them, you said, "No, I didn't." I don't know if you're not able to honestly follow the dialogue or if you're↗

4:03:59Speaker 14And, and I would point out that if you, if you can't understand what the basic meaning of violence is, you're trying to say going over there and fighting Jews isn't violent? I mean, come on, man, we can't pick and choose when something's violent. Violent is violence, whether it's righteous violence or unrighteous violence, okay? The, the only difference when it comes to the death of someone, is when it comes to killing and murdering. It, you know, in the Ten Commandments, it says, "Thou shalt not kill." It doesn't Murder, that was, someone changed that to make it seem, or, it says, "Thou shalt not murder," my bad. It doesn't say, "Thou shalt not kill," that was changed to, to pacify Christians, okay? So there's a difference between killing and a difference between murdering. And, and, you know, I, I feel like, you know, we'll give you one more chance to respond here, Prashant, and get your final thoughts out, but we're gonna have to get to these hands that are patient.↗

4:04:51Speaker 15Yeah, only one more chance. Yeah, yeah. It's not violent to, to kill and shoot violent people, period, end of story. It's self-defense.↗

4:05:01Speaker 14It, it, what you're looking for is, it's not murder to go over there. It's not murder, is what you're saying. It's not murder. And I agree, it's not murder to go-- It's not, it's not murder to, to stop the Jews. It's not violent, I don't agree with that. It's not↗

4:05:16Speaker 15violent, I don't agree with that. What's↗

4:05:17Speaker 14the definition of violence? We gotta move on, buddy. We're talking in circles. Give↗

4:05:21Speaker 15me examples of violence. No, no, no,↗

4:05:22Speaker 14I don't want an example, I want a definition of violence. You give↗

4:05:27Speaker 15me↗

4:05:27Speaker 14yours. The, that, it's when you physically-- It's when you physically aggress upon somebody. That's the definition of violence. No, that's↗

4:05:35Speaker 15the simple sense definition. Can I jump in on here↗

4:05:38Speaker 16'cause I think I could clarify this?↗

4:05:41Speaker 14who is this? Go ahead, Dr. Michael. Michael,↗

4:05:44@joann_marieyeah. Dr. Ectorow, thank you for coming on. Thank you, Michael. Thank↗

4:05:47Speaker 14you, Michael.↗

4:05:48Speaker 16Good to see everybody. so here's what I-- there's a couple of things that I think are being confused here. I think that Prashant is operating what I-- under what I consider to be a libertarian, Principled philosophy, and that is violence is when you initiate force against another person or set of persons. It's when you aggress upon somebody, that's violence.↗

4:06:17Speaker 16When you respond to someone's aggression against you, that isn't violence under this particular definition. So, it's, it happens to be the view, the view that I hold as well. the other thing was about Christianity. Now, Pr-Prashant, you know, it, it, so, so there, there is a truth to the fact that true Christian orthodoxy holds that Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father, that is, to God. So that's what Christian orthodoxy holds. However, there are a number of religious Christian sects and denominations. Who are much more pluralistic about all this now, and they aren't like, they're, they're, they're, they've become much more like DEI type churches,↗

4:07:09Speaker 16you might say, Judaized or whatever. But what happened is they now believe that basically, oh, there's other ways to get to heaven, you know, Jesus Christ is very inclusive now. Inclusive. So, you know, they got this inclusion thing going on with, within Christianity, and, that is to basically water it down and distort the actual orthodox meaning of the text. Which is very clear in Christian Orthodoxy. Jesus Christ said point blank, "I am the way, the truth, and the light.↗

4:07:48Speaker 16No one gets to the Father except through me." That's what He said. So whether you like that or not, that's what He said. I'm not saying that's correct right now. I'm, I'm not taking that position. What I'm saying is that's what it says. It's very clear that Orthodox Christianity is entirely exclusivist Now let me say this also, it doesn't mean it's supremacist, because nobody is asserting their own sup- you know, superiority over other people. They're s-simply suggesting that a particular path is superior than an, to another path. It's not, it's not about individual superiority being asserted.↗

4:08:32Speaker 16so and, and there's less of-- unless they're killing you for it, they're, they're not supremacists in terms of you. Like if they-- you know, somebody could believe anything, and it doesn't affect me unless they suggest I ought to be killed over, differing from them. And that, that did happen in Christian history. It happened during the Crusades and the, and the Inquisition. So↗

4:08:59Speaker 16Yeah, that's not true Christianity. Let's be, let's be real, that was a complete breach of the Christian ethics in, in the name of Christendom. That's another story.↗

4:09:10Speaker 14Alright, so I'll have to agree temporarily with Prashad, but then have to correct Prashad. So I busted out my old dictionary, my old fallin' apart dictionary from, I think, the fifties or the sixties or somewhere around there, to look up what violence is. Okay? It is the in-- the quality of being violent, vehement, intensity of action or motion, highly excited feeling. Injury done to anything which is entitled to respect or reverence, pro-proven-provenation violation, it does mention unjust force, outrage, attack, and un-uh, insult. So,↗

4:09:53Speaker 14w-w-if we're saying that there's unjust force, we'll just take that small thing out of that large definition there. Well, we can't say Christianity would be considered violent because How, how can one say that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life? How can that be considered an unjust force? How can that be violent?↗

4:10:13Speaker 15Want me to respond?↗

4:10:15Speaker 14Yeah, sure, go↗

4:10:16Speaker 15ahead. Yeah, I mean, I've already- Thank you, Michael,↗

4:10:18Speaker 14by the way.↗

4:10:19Speaker 15I've already said the same thing I'm already, I'm gonna say. There's nothing wrong with you believing it. The problem comes when you think that's the only way and the only truth. There's nothing violent about Christianity, there's nothing violent about Jesus. The problem comes when you think it's the only way to God, because that's mental violence. That's mental violence, because if somebody, if somebody's- Priscilla, we just don't believe in multiple gods. You don't want to let me talk, then don't ask me to talk.↗

4:10:51Speaker 15I've gotta talk if you want me to answer questions.↗

4:10:56Speaker 15It's only violent when you say it's the only way. And there's some-- there's such a thing as mental violence. That's what it is. If somebody else has a, has a different religion and has a different belief, and they're a moral person on the planet, and you say that their way is false and only Jesus in the Bible is, is right, that's violence. That's mental violence. And mental violence turns into physical violence. So believing that kind of way, you're fostering- Violence. And you can laugh all you want, I don't really care, you laugh all you want. I made it pretty clear it's not even that complicated.↗

4:11:33@joann_marieWell, I have several violent intentions.↗

4:11:36Speaker 14So, if, if I'm saying that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, and that in itself is mental violence, Michael, he quoted the scripture, he-- Jesus, and then you're gonna say Jesus, you're not saying Jesus is not violent, Jesus himself said, "I am the only way, the truth, and the life." So therefore, by your ex Jesus himself is violent, 'cause he said that he is the only way, the truth, and the life.↗

4:12:00Speaker 15Should I respond to that?↗

4:12:03Speaker 14Sure thing.↗

4:12:04Speaker 15Yeah, okay. There's absolutely no way on the planet, on God's green earth, that you can prove that Jesus said that. It's just written in some book. There's no way you can prove it, any more than I, than I can prove what I say, something I take out of the Bhagavad Gita is true. There's no way any of us can prove it. No way, period. That's faith. You have faith that that's the truth. But don't force your faith on somebody else, 'cause that's when it becomes violent, when you force it on somebody else, and when you say it's the only way. Where↗

4:12:32Ian Malcolmin Christianity does it say to force it on somebody else, Prashant?↗

4:12:35Speaker 15When you say it's the only way, that's that's that's supremacy,↗

4:12:40Ian Malcolmthat's supremacy. So Prashant, if I believe that the only way to get to heaven is by worshiping my pet hamster, and I sit in my lonely house For a hundred years, telling myself about how valuable my hamster is, and I don't interact with anybody. I don't see another soul. I am like Gollum in Lord of the Rings with my little hamster. Yes, my precious. And I sit there, and I have no impact on the rest of the world, because I believe that my hamster is the only way to get to heaven. Am I being violent, Prashant?↗

4:13:13Speaker 15No. Why is there a↗

4:13:15Ian Malcolmdifference?↗

4:13:17Speaker 15I'm responding, please hold your tongue. How is it any different? Show some difference. Show some, show some- Show some difference,↗

4:13:24Ian Malcolmexplain the difference. Show some↗

4:13:25Speaker 15discipline. I already explained it. Some discipline, you↗

4:13:28Ian Malcolmsaid show some difference. I already explained it. Show some discipline, okay? Show some↗

4:13:30Speaker 15discipline. Let me talk if you want me to talk. I've already said this. I gotta say it a thousand times 'til you get it. It becomes violent when you say it's the only way, and if people don't believe you. But my answer is the only↗

4:13:43Ian Malcolmway, Prashant.↗

4:13:44Speaker 15What'd you say?↗

4:13:45Ian MalcolmMy hamster is the only way to heaven.↗

4:13:47Speaker 15Why, why are you saying stupid things? Because I'm↗

4:13:50Ian Malcolmgiving you a logical comparison. That's not a logical comparison. No, no, it's not a logical. It's↗

4:13:54Speaker 15nothing logical about it at all. Yes, it is. It is very logical.↗

4:13:58Ian MalcolmYou are suggesting, Prashant, that if somebody believes that Christ is the only way to heaven, that that is therefore violent supremacy. I am saying, if I sit in my house all by my lonesome, with my gollum mask on and my hamster, and I say,↗

4:14:15Ian MalcolmAnd I say, Prashad's never going to heaven. He's never met my hamster, based on your logic. If we apply the same thing, then you're going to suggest that me, in my gollum cave, that I am being a violent supremacist. Now, I need you to reverse engineer the logic of your piss poor argument, and try, if you can, with your thirty six IQ, to connect the basic dots that I've presented you and to re-- to realize how ridiculous your argument is.↗

4:14:42Speaker 15There's nothing at all ridiculous about my argument. What's sad is- Oh, can we move on↗

4:14:47Speaker 17and then we can come back to that?↗

4:14:48Speaker 15Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay,↗

4:14:48Speaker 17okay. Once↗

4:14:49Ian Malcolmagain- You can't think of yourself out of a cardboard box. It's a good,↗

4:14:53Speaker 15what the- Yeah,↗

4:14:55@joann_mariewe'll, we'll move on the more there is the↗

4:14:59Ian Malcolmbest space ever, I'm crying. Oh, God, once again, you guys, you're really worried about my yogi brain. It's just so big, and I say I- Support something, but I'm against the something the next moment, then I say something that's logically ridiculous, and when I'm presented with something that explains how logically ridiculous it is, I'm gonna say, "Well, you guys are just bigots against me, the yogi." No, Prashant, you made a horrific argument. I'm going to make a clip out of this, it is going to be wonderful, and I'm going to include Gollum and my hamster in it. And I hope when you hear it, that you are embarrassed, because if you are, maybe you'll recognize how ludicrous your position is. And if not, then you're welcome to continue sharing it, and I will continue to embarrass you. But we're gonna move on. I'm↗

4:15:39Speaker 15not embarrassed at all. You asked me a question, but you won't let me answer it. You asked me a question, but you won't let me answer it 'cause you're a coward. All you want to do is answer any question.↗

4:15:51Speaker 14Prashant, you, you, you keep on, like you even said yourself, you keep on saying it a thousand times, you keep on giving us the same response back, and I think it's kinda supremacist and violent of you, Yogi's, to sit here and tell me my Jesus Christ is fake. I, I believe it. How dare you tell me that he didn't say those things? But no, Prashant, if you'd have patience and just hold your tongue for now, we'll, we'll see if we can get back to you if we got some time,↗

4:16:20Speaker 14But we do wanna get to the patient Mulberry. I know, Rye, please hold your patience too, we're gonna get to you. I know you have some things to say, but I wanna make sure Mulberry, she's got four babies she's taking care of, I wanna make sure she gets what she wants to say in.↗

4:16:34Speaker 18Well, now that's really awkward, isn't it? I'm like, okay, let's bring it back to birth control. yeah, thank you for letting me come back on. so what Ian was saying about birth control is 100% true. There's also more in depth about it actually changes women's plasma to green, which is really crazy. the other thing, they've done studies showing that women who've been on birth control before marriage and then get off of it during marriage, they have a higher risk of, Divorce because it actually changes your hormone receptors of what you actually find,↗

4:17:11Speaker 18attractive, 'cause it's not just looks, it's also the hormone receptors, the smell of our partner. So keep that in mind, if for women who are on birth control and get off birth control. The other thing is I got really, deep dive into birth control and the different stages, there's- Like four different classes, I think they're on the fifth class now of birth control, because, I actually almost died from taking Yaz birth control. I was on it for three months when I was eighteen, and I almost died, and I ended up getting cervical cancer, stage three slash four, and they had to remove most of my cervix. This actually woke me up To all of this at a very early age, to everything about depopulation, our food, our health, all the people that are harming our people, and, thankfully God granted me to have children, five years after being cancer-free. there is this amazing thing, this is just put my faith more into God because,↗

4:18:22Speaker 18There's a, a thing our body does when we're pregnant, and this has also made me very anti-abortion. it's called cell migration. People wanna call babies a parasite, which is absolutely disgusting, because babies actually will heal mothers when pregnant. like I said, it's called cell migration, you can look into it. So I didn't have a cervix, they removed it, and my son, our first son, who was a miracle baby,↗

4:18:46Speaker 18regrew my cervix. I had my cancer checkup, and I still didn't have one, and I Got pregnant three months later, and I had a full cervix. It ended up, having scar tissue and had a crazy delivery with our first that was an emergency. But, anyways, I learned about all this through our midwife and our OB/GYN. With all of it, and I was like, "Wow, the fact that people still call baby parasites, which isn't, it's further from the truth when they send stem cells to heal our bodies." There's been tons of studies showing that women have had heart issues, and they've gotten pregnant, and the baby will send stem cells to heal their heart. it's absolutely phenomenal. God has bigger plans for all of us, and I don't feel that humans can do better than God in any of this, and they don't understand the human body as much as they wanna pretend they do. Anyways, thank you so much. I just wanted to share that with everybody.↗

4:19:46@joann_marieThank you so much, Robert. I, I loved everything you, you added. And, yeah, Christopher is glitching and he's, he's stuck right there. And guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Christopher and Mike. Everybody in the panel is just absolutely brilliant. And the, the, the hamster rant is the most brilliant thing I've- I haven't heard the answer to say, "Amazing." Well, we've↗

4:20:10Ian Malcolmgot a poll up in the nest, people are welcome to participate, and, we'll, we'll see who comes out on top of that one. It might be fun for people. But, let's go back to Dr. Recknwald real quick, and, then we'll check in with Kugel Theory, who's, new to the panel.↗

4:20:25Speaker 16Yeah, I don't know what this, where to pick back up at actually. I think, what, what, what Mulberry just was saying was really amazing. Amazing stuff. I think that's true about the intelligence that is residing in our Bodies, you know, vis a vis God, I guess, who can heal us in ways that we can't even imagine. I think that's absolutely true, and I hear, to hear that story about the cell migration, that, that's really quite intriguing and, s-says a lot, has a lot of deep implications actually,↗

4:21:00Speaker 16which I won't plumb into, but back to the discussion just briefly about Prashant. See, I think it's very clear that Orthodox Christianity, and I mean Orthodox with a lower case o, is very clear that about the exclusivity of Jesus Christ as the Savior. This isn't optional, it isn't just one possible path. That's the true Orthodox Christian view. Now, there have been exempt, you know, dozens and dozens of sects and even denominations that have split off from that, of course. And now are saying things like, you know, well, it's one way, you know, and, you know, and,↗

4:21:46Speaker 16you know, it's, it's not, it's not deemed to be, exclusive because they, they want to be inclusive now, and, so inclusion means, changing the actual dogma for the doctrine, in, in many cases. So that's, that's what's going on. And, I think, I think that's a perversion actually of Christianity. I'm not even speaking as a Christian per se, I'm just saying I think it's a perversion. And it's, it's been, you know, been subtly undermining Christianity for, for decades, if not centuries. So, that's it.↗

4:22:28Speaker 14Thank you, thank you. And, I don't know if you said Kugle theory, but, official D2 was before him, and I didn't know if you wanted to get to Rhyd.↗

4:22:37Speaker 19I mean, if you'll, if you'll before me, you can go quick. Someone hasn't spoken↗

4:22:40Speaker 17yet, please bring them before me. It's fine.↗

4:22:42Speaker 19Yeah, I, I was just joined, so someone can go before me. All↗

4:22:46Speaker 17right, let me, let me, if, okay, okay, let's go with the official. You, brother Ryan,↗

4:22:53Speaker 20brother Ryan, come on↗

4:22:54Speaker 17now. All right, quick, I'll, I'll be quick because I don't wanna bring it back to the, but I, but I think that use of the term "supremacist" so, When, when we are dealing with real, active, unyielding, unrelenting supremacists that, that belong to the Talmudic tribe, you know, so a-a-a.k.a. Jewish supremacy, as, as destroying the world In, in so many ways. using that word supremacy so lightly just because if someone believes that their faith is the only way that makes them supremacists, I, I think, it, it doesn't make sense whatsoever.↗

4:23:40Speaker 17we have to define when we speak to each other, we have to have at least common definitions of the words and their values. w- and thank you for Dr. Ma- Michael to clarify that when you, when, when one said This is violent, the connotation in their mind is something else completely because, and, and then you're violent in your mind, that, that's very new to me, because I think, I mean, look, I, I believe in the design, the perfect design that Melbury just spoke about. The creator had pre-created a perfect system of Of the world and our, and our physiology and everything in it, it is perfect,↗

4:24:25Speaker 17and, and from that, I know that when I walk in the world, I am biased towards myself, and it is healthy. It keeps me alive, it keeps me, you know, functioning better in the world because I'm biased towards, I have to be. Well, then, as an extension, then I'm biased towards my family. Well, then after that, it is my community that I have to be biased for. Now in the West, if someone says I'm biased towards, let's say, white people, they're called a racist. This is the problem with this thinking, this, this twisting of our understandings of basic issues in the world by labeling stuff. This is the Jewish way, this is the Talmudic way. So if we are of one group understands that problem, we can't go around slapping each other with these labels of violence, you're supremacist. It's like we have to, to go light with these things. It doesn't make sense at all. And so that is very important. We need to detox our, our perceptions and understandings and, and how we use words on each other, detox it from this Jewish understanding of things because this is how they view us. Supremacy for me is when I believe that my group is of Higher value of the rest of the people, and I act accordingly where they get affected. I, my thoughts in my brain can be as wacko as they can be, as long as I'm not acting on them towards others maliciously, they can't be violent or anything else. They are my views, right? And, and, and this is the problem. And with Prashant, I need to ask this because I need to know something. Now I'm interested Is that. Do you believe in a one God ultimate authority that created the heavens and the earth, and we live under that design, the creator, or do you believe in multiple gods? What is this, the, the theology you study, because you keep saying you study it, and that's a question for you, my friend, if you wanna answer.↗

4:26:46Speaker 15Sure, I'll answer. I, I have a belief in God. It's not the same way you believe in God. Is that a good answer?↗

4:26:53Speaker 17No, that's a very stupid and shallow answer. I mean, teach me. You believe in one God and one Creator or many of them?↗

4:27:00Speaker 15They resort to calling names. That's what Jews do. They resort to calling names. Because when you disrespect my intellect, you just proved my point. You just proved my earlier point. I, I, I don't understand. You resort to calling names. You get an answer to your question now. Did you really go to university? You see, that's, that's the problem. You did the very Jewish thing. You resort to calling names. Oh my↗

4:27:22Speaker 17You're like, you're like, you're like a middle-aged woman with blue hair. Seriously, this is how I feel when I argue with you.↗

4:27:31Speaker 15You're proving my point, thank you. You're right. You believe in one God? Can you get an honest answer? Is there one God?↗

4:27:38Speaker 14Alright, alright. We wanna make it productive. I enjoy the discourse. Prashant, can you answer the, the question a bit more detailed, if you will? If you were trying to convert us to your belief away from what you would say is violent Christianity or whatever, you don't even have to respond to that, I'm just kidding, I'm just here. If you were to try to convert us to your belief in your God, like what would you say or how would you say to do it, you know? Am I allowed to call you Master Yogi? You're the Master Yogi↗

4:28:10Speaker 15You can say silly things↗

4:28:14Speaker 15all- You can say silly things all you want, Christopher. I'm not trying to convert anybody to my faith.↗

4:28:21Speaker 14Well, I'm hoping that you're trying to spread the truth, you know? I, I don't know. What? I↗

4:28:25Speaker 15am, I am. Okay, so I'm asking↗

4:28:26Speaker 14you to, I'm asking you to spread the truth. And, and when you're spreading the truth, the-- what, if you truly believe in what you believe in, you're hoping for an optimal outcome. You don't tell people things simply to just tell them. You're telling them in hopes that they'll become a better person of themselves, I imagine, right? So what, you know, converting isn↗

4:28:50Speaker 14To help me understand what your beliefs are so that I might, would be swayed to believe in the truth, then I would like you to explain what the truth of, of God is in your terms.↗

4:29:03Speaker 15I'm not trying to convert you to anything.↗

4:29:07Speaker 14Are you gonna answer this question? Yeah, please answer my question.↗

4:29:11Speaker 15I did.↗

4:29:12Speaker 17No, you didn't.↗

4:29:13Speaker 15What is your question?↗

4:29:15Speaker 17Is there one God that created the heavens and the earth? And explain. I told you, I↗

4:29:19Speaker 15already answered that, I already answered that question.↗

4:29:23Speaker 14Explain, try to persuade me.↗

4:29:26Speaker 15I'm not gonna try to persuade you. I need you↗

4:29:28Speaker 14to, if you're going to try to- Well, I'm↗

4:29:30Speaker 15sorry if you haven't need to, but I'm not here to persuade you. So you're↗

4:29:33Speaker 14not a truth-sayer. You're not here to spread truth.↗

4:29:36Speaker 15I, I'm not here, I'm not here to persuade you of anything. You can call me all the names you want. You can call me all the names you want, but that's↗

4:29:48Ian MalcolmHere to do, can you answer that question?↗

4:29:52Speaker 15what's the question?↗

4:29:53Ian MalcolmKit, wow. What are you here attempting to do?↗

4:29:58Speaker 15I'm here to ex-exchange dialogue, to say what I believe, and that's it. Well, I need↗

4:30:03Speaker 17you to start playing what you believe. Kit, can I just ask you a question? What, okay, what do you call God in your teachings? Like, what's the name to refer to God in your teachings? Just give us an answer. I would call it,↗

4:30:14Speaker 15I would call it God.↗

4:30:16Speaker 14Alright, and tell me, like, what, what scripture, like, do you believe all the different scriptures lead, connect to the same God, or is there a scripture that's more accurate than another?↗

4:30:29Speaker 15I believe that a lot of the scriptures, point to God, yes, a lot of them.↗

4:30:34Speaker 14Is there one that you're more, that you favor more than the others?↗

4:30:38Speaker 15No.↗

4:30:40Speaker 14Alright, so what about the Jewish Talmud?↗

4:30:44Speaker 15I don't know much about it, I think it's a pretty dark book from what I know.↗

4:30:48Speaker 14I agree. Alright. If you were trying to, if, if you, if you were to,↗

4:30:55Speaker 14teach me as a student who wishes to learn about the way of Yogi and the path of life, what, what, what are some of the best points that you could give me?↗

4:31:08Speaker 15If I were, if you wanted to learn about it, I could point you to the place where you could do study of it. Because you're not gonna get it, you're not gonna get the definition of what I'm talking about in this space, period. Especially when you guys have the mute button, 'cause as soon as I say something you don't like, you mute me, and that's what cowards do, and you call people names.↗

4:31:27Ian MalcolmNow we're cowards. Gotcha.↗

4:31:29Speaker 21Cowards don't answer questions like you've↗

4:31:33Speaker 15just done, sir. Oh, thank↗

4:31:36Ian Malcolmyou. Well, I let's-- We're gonna, we're gonna click the mute button again. so if Chris asked me, if Chris asked me, what's the weather, and I said, "Well, it's not like yesterday," he said, "Well, what? Can you be more descriptive?" "Well, it's not sunny. So what is it? Can you give me more details?" "No, no, I don't know if you're ready for that." So you're like, "So where could I try and ascertain a few hints as to what the weather might be?"↗

4:32:07Ian MalcolmI could recommend↗

4:32:07Speaker 14the Weather Channel, and it's like, "Yeah, but supposedly you're the weatherman, " so like, I could get it straight from you and hear your expertise. You claim to be the, the weatherman, but, you know, I'm, I'm just trying to learn 'cause you do have Yogi in there. Like, if somebody asked me questions, you know, if I ask Raya questions, I, I talk to Muslims all the time, and I ask them questions about their faith, I, I would hope that they talk to me in good faith↗

4:32:36Speaker 14Oh, well, here's the Quran, start reading. It's like, well, yeah, I could start reading, or we could have a discussion to kind of break it open, and then I'll read on my own time, you know, that I'm, I'm not gonna be around Prashant forever, I'm gonna be Prashantless, you know, within the next couple hours or whatever may it be. So I'm asking for Prashant's perspective on the beliefs that he believes are true.↗

4:33:02Speaker 15Okay, you want, you want a perspective. one of the scriptures that I study or the philosophies is yoga. Yoga is the science of the mind. Yoga is controlling the thought waves in the mind. Everything that you have in life, everything that you think, everything that hurts you, everything that you think, everything that makes you feel good, it's a thought wave in the mind, and yoga is the science of the mind. Okay? Is that a good answer for you?↗

4:33:30Speaker 14I can agree with, with, with a lot of things in life are essentially, you know, we talked about this the other day when MoneyPenny was in here about the world is vibrations, everything is vibrating, and, even our mind casts and receives vibrations. So I, I can understand that, and you're saying it's the science of the mind. Is this where, is, is this some, do the chakras come into play with all this? The, the root chakras or whatever they're called?↗

4:33:56Speaker 15The chakras are a part of the Indian philosophies. I don't remember exactly which part they are, but yes, they are a part of some of the Indian philosophies. Yes, energy centers in the spine. Go ahead,↗

4:34:06Speaker 14yogi. Oh, my bad.↗

4:34:07Speaker 15Go ahead.↗

4:34:10Speaker 14I was gonna ask you, where does Yogi originate from? Like, where, where's like, is there a, who, who, who like helped, reveal this information? Where does it originate from? Is that India or is that, I get confused sometimes?↗

4:34:24Speaker 15Yes, it is India, and it's at least three thousand years old.↗

4:34:31Speaker 14Alright. And, so the, this is a, this is a, a science that came from India, so I imagine that the, the chakras play a significant role in this, in this field, right? You said it kinda-- you almost made it seem like it's, it does, it plays a role, but not maybe such a significant role. And I'm, I wanna, I'm trying to dive, maybe a little bit deeper into what the, what the science is of our mind, like some of the primary examples, maybe?↗

4:35:03Speaker 15Well, the primary example is controlling the thought waves of your mind. That's yoga. The chakras, I said, are a part of some Indian philosophies. I don't know that much about them. They're not that important to me. But yoga is the science of the mind, and essentially it's the science of controlling the thought waves of your mind. Why would you want to do that? Because everything that affects every last one of us in this space and on this planet are our thoughts. So you- Do you think controlling those things might be a good thing? That's what the science of yoga is about.↗

4:35:38Speaker 14Okay, I can agree with this. And is there any form of like manifesta-manifestation or prayer in another word, is there some form of that where, you know, we do know that our, our, the, the thoughts of our mind are powerful and they can either harm us or be productive to us, does that inter- interact with the physical realm at all or is it strictly a mental sense?↗

4:36:02Speaker 15I don't understand your question quite.↗

4:36:05Speaker 14Yeah, no worries. so you're saying control our mind and our thoughts, which is a big deal. Can, can somebody essentially, control their thoughts to the point to where they can bring good fortune into their life?↗

4:36:19Speaker 15Absolutely.↗

4:36:21Speaker 14Go on. You want an ex-↗

4:36:22Speaker 15you want an example of that?↗

4:36:24Speaker 14Yeah, please.↗

4:36:25Speaker 15Okay, I'm a living example of it. I'm 76 years old. I haven't been to a doctor in 55 years. I haven't taken an over-the-counter or prescription medicine in 55 years. I live on the North Shore of Hawaii, sorry Joann, and we have some of the most difficult and dangerous waves on the planet. I still surf them at 76 years old. That's a ma- that's part of the manifestation of my yoga practice, thank you.↗

4:36:55Speaker 14Well, I appreciate these, these more in depth answers that you've given me. And, and yeah, so I, I believe I do agree with you that there's a correlation between your thoughts and your physical health, as you seem to suggest, where if someone is mentally unhealthy, then they become physically unhealthy, and if they're mentally healthy, then they tend to be more physically healthy. Does, does Joanne or Ian have any res- or, or anyone have any, questions now that we're getting to a sort of understanding?↗

4:37:28Speaker 17No, no, no, I just wanted to thank, Prashant for that clarification because now, so I can be, like, let's say, a Christian and practice yoga, it's like, it's one is, is my day-to-day activities in terms of being healthy and I have a healthy mind, and the other one is my relationship with God. So that's all I wanted to clarify, that Thank you.↗

4:37:52Speaker 14Joanne, oh, go ahead, Michael. Sure, Michael.↗

4:37:55Speaker 16Yeah, I just wanna say that, I've experienced yoga, I've done yoga. And I've experienced the spiritual, the spirituality of yoga, I've had, you know, I found myself beaming into a kind of vision of eternity, and I've had that same experience in Christian prayer or after Christian services and so forth. So I do think these aren't incompatible. So if that's what we were talking about earlier, then I think to say that, you know, if you did yoga↗

4:38:30Speaker 16And you're a Christian, this isn't some sort of violation of your Christian creed. the only thing I would say is that, Christianity, at least the kind of Christianity that I'm involved in, it doesn't, it doesn't hold-- it, there's a little bit of a difference about, like, how we get spiritually better, And in, in the Christian understanding, it isn't something that happens by virtue of our own efforts. It is something that happens by virtue of grace,↗

4:39:09Speaker 16given to us by God. Christ is the grace that allows us to change, allows us to be better persons. It isn't something that our effort really brings. So this is a slight difference here, you know, there's a sense in which- Christianity is kind of like a receptive type philosophy. It's more, it's more reflect-receptive than it is striving for something.↗

4:39:39Speaker 14Anyway. Alright, Joanne or Ian, did you have any response before we get to official?↗

4:39:46@joann_marieNo, I'm good. Thank you, Miss Ziffer. Go for it, official.↗

4:39:56Speaker 14Official D2? I'm here,↗

4:39:58Speaker 20I'm↗

4:39:58Speaker 14here. What's happening? What's on your mind?↗

4:40:05Speaker 20first I was gonna say it's a crisis, King. You know what I mean? Now, remember someone was saying about Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, and some about, you know, supremacism or extremism or something. Here's the thing, right? There's no extremism or supremacism when it comes to the truth. Listen, simple as that. I mean, you can't, even in Islam, right? You can't, can't call yourself a Muslim if you don't believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and the salvation of mankind. It's like prerequisite. So, I don't think it has anything to do with supremacy, but just the truth. Yeah, that's all I really wanted to say.↗

4:40:39Speaker 14Well, we agree and we appreciate you, and, not, not all of us agree, but I agree, and, and I know a few other people agree. Kugel, thank you↗

4:40:51Speaker 19Yeah, thank you guys for hosting, as always. I just wanna touch on what Prashant has been saying and kinda preaching, and again, thank you for actually deep diving into it 'cause I do feel like a lot of these times where you try to have a discussion with someone, it is just these broad answers of, "What do you believe in?" "Oh, I just believe in God." "Well, do you mind elaborating?" You know, there's no elaboration, so thank you for actually going into depth on that.↗

4:41:19Speaker 19but, you know, there is I'm Catholic, there is a sense to our belief that the body and mind do work through the divinity of God and Jesus Christ. we wouldn't be able to have the body or mind we have without Him, first and foremost. He gives us the will and the power to do things through our minds and through our bodies that we wouldn't be able to without Him. So I'll just clarify that first and foremost. And, you know, second off, with that, we have to- Respect our bodies and our minds, which I guess ties in with the yoga practices that Prashant is preaching here.↗

4:41:58Speaker 19another message I just wanna say to Prashant, just in the future You know, you seem like a very nice guy, very good gentleman. if someone is just asking, "Hey, man, what do you believe in?" Something like that. me personally, I believe in evangel- being, you know, evangelist and making sure we spread our faith, for my faith personally, just because, not just for me feeling better, but, you know, my religion is the people's religion. You know, Jesus isn't just for one sec or one group of people, it's for everyone. Everyone. I'm not sure if you believe yogi or, you know, yoga is for everyone or a certain sex or however, but if I were in your position, I would want to preach it, you know, I'd want everyone to feel as good as you do. I would want everyone to be a 76-year-old who can do what you can do, you know, 'cause honestly, not every 76-year-old can do that. So it sounds like you're very prideful and happy of that, and I don't think it's a good idea to gatekeep that Kind of a thing, 'cause that's kind of how it almost comes off when you say, "Oh, I don't wanna share it." So just for future tense, if that ever, you know, happens and eludes you again, just be prepared for that. second off, too, you said you came for dialogue, and that's the other thing is you're giving these broad, ring around the rosy answers to these questions. you're not engaging in dialogue in that aspect, so it's kind of a contradictory to your statement. Just please, you know, kind of just be mindful about what your intentions are, throughout certain conversations, you know, and, I do appreciate you being respectful. my last comment is I just wanna go back to Mulberry Tree earlier. that is 100%, you know, God's intervention and why we just need to have faith in God and whatever His plan is. You know, that was a beautiful story and- You know, the whole thing with birth control,↗

4:44:01Speaker 19the insemination process too of, you know, artificial birthing and breeding of humans with science, it's totally, you know, it's going against God's will. Anything that goes against God's nature or will will have repercussions. I mean, you see how people now are having high, what is it, high cancer rates with birth control association. you know, all this stuff is- Kind of coming full circle where God will eventually intervene and everything does kinda happen. So, you know, I just pray for everyone out there, love everyone, and, God be↗

4:44:40Speaker 14Thank you, thank you, Koogle, and, Prashant, we do appreciate your patience and, and I know it's been a bit of bickering and a, and a bit of hecticness, but, we do appreciate you, willing to, roll with the punches, so to speak, and so we could get back to a nice, calm, discussion, and, We, we do want to, maybe I'm a bit egotistical here, maybe it's a bit of my ego, but Michael, I have a question for you. You, you've, again, this may be wrong of me to bring up on the space, and, and, and I want you to just be honest, and I'm not asking for any favors or anything in return. I know that you used to follow me and whatnot, and I follow you, and I was just curious as to↗

4:45:26Speaker 14if I did something, I'm not asking Curiosity perspective, I'd just like to gauge people's thoughts and opinions.↗

4:45:36Speaker 16Oh no, man, I don't, I don't remember I'm following you at all. so I don't know what happened there. Let me follow you right now. So, yeah, I don't know. I, I never did anything. I think there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on, with X and, you know, I think technology is semi-autonomous, it's, it's doing stuff on its own. And so, but I didn't unfollow you, so but in any case, sorry that, came across as such. No, no,↗

4:46:04Ian Malcolmno. Ryan Motta was, disconnected from following me like three or four times in a single week when we did two spaces together in between. So it was very I, I agree with Dr. Ectorwald's suggestion. There's, there's a lot, actually, Dr. Ector, I, I'd be curious for your thoughts on this. I, I noted that, on a couple posts, this last week or so, within seconds of posting things, I had three hundred, five hundred, a thousand views supposedly, and, and would have, you know, thirteen hundred views in forty-five seconds with two likes, and I was kind of accustomed to it taking, you know, fifteen to thirty minutes before I Get close to a thousand views in totality. I'm kind of curious if you've seen similar, what appears to be manipulation, if you have any thoughts on what they might be doing on the backend.↗

4:46:54Speaker 16Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, just as a, a sort of, benchmark, if you will, what the-- before I announced the, existence of Azapac, and I'm not trying to promote Azapac here, but just before I announced it back in, last July I, I announced it, and then we came into existence in August. the day that I, I announced that, e-everything fell off a cliff after that with, X. All, all impressions, everything, they were squelched dramatically. Just in one day, I, I went from like five hundred thousand,↗

4:47:34Speaker 16to a million impressions a day to, you know, fifteen thousand overnight. And, they just- Totally started squelching me. And, and then, then we founded the Asapac site and it, it, it took off pretty well when we put up a video, but, we put up our first video But it's still squelched, I believe, at this point, even though it had no history as a person, as it were.↗

4:48:08Speaker 22Give out the handle.↗

4:48:09Speaker 16The handle is, ant-anti-anti-zio ampac, anti-zio ampac. but, so Yeah, I, I think there's definitely something going on. I think there's even human intervention, not just algorithmic intervention. I, I think you have some human agents running around on X who have access to different accounts and don't like certain things, and they just, they, they just put some spell on you, some algorithmic hex that they, they put on you, and then that's it. I think that's what goes on. I think they, they pay attention to stuff when it- It becomes dangerous, and then they start to squelch it.↗

4:48:56Speaker 16so that's been my experience anyway.↗

4:48:58Ian MalcolmYou know, I think you're exactly right. And the, so I, I wanna give a big shout out to, to Mr. Allegedly Dank, who I know is down in the listener panel, and Dr. Eckenwald. He took all of our spaces. Ran them through a AI setup that he had built, and it would pick one space after another, after another, after another, it would go through them all, scrub them of all the words that according to the various platforms, so they looked at what are the terms of service of YouTube, for example, how do we ensure that we don't say any of the buzzwords that YouTube will give us an infraction for utilizing? He bleeped out all of those bad words, then took them, and one by one, they got automatically uploaded to YouTube in a systematic effort Based on a ton of work that he did with the AI engine to do that, it lasted less than a week on YouTube. And here on X, I've gotten a update, and this is a very curious one. somebody sent me, BloodyGoy, I think is their, user handle, if I remember correctly. They sent me screenshots of a conversation with Grok on the back end where they were asking about you-- user suppression and censorship. And when he asked, he asked it about Leonardo DiCaprio's account, he asked it about my account. When it was about↗

4:50:09Ian MalcolmThe way they censor and suppress is by labeling everything as adult content, which is very curious because there was a post about a month ago where I used a, it was the GIF of Ian Malcolm saying, "Well, there it is," and I opened up the, to see 'cause people were commenting on it, and it was, it had the filter where you had to click on the thing to see the quote-unquote adult content, which was just a, it was a GIF of, of Jeff Goldblum. And so we went back, and long story short, according to- Rock, everything on my handle is treated as if it's adult content. The creepiest part about it is, it doesn't show that. It's not like if you go to my page that any of the memes or the images are labeled as adult content. So in other wa- in other words, what they have done is everything is hit with the suppression as if it's literal pornography, but we don't note that they're doing it. So that it can, of course, appear more free in the speech platform that we're on than it actually is. And so my point is just that there's all kinds of things they're doing on the back end that are trapdoors with what does and doesn't get views. It's my belief that they're gonna start essentially-- They will get to a point where the, the impressions that you supposedly have are essentially completely meaningless. They will be artificial beyond description. The number of views that you get, the likes that you get, and even the comments eventually, because it's all- It's going to be essentially AI with a blend of human interaction so that you think that you are getting engagement or that you are having conversations, perhaps even in spaces with fifty people, a hundred people, a hundred thousand people, and in reality, ninety-eight percent of it might literally just be fiction. It might be the AI commenting on things to give you the appearance of engagement. It might be a number next to the number of views and impressions that is eighty or ninety percent artificial. I really believe that that's all where this is going, Dr. Ectamond. I'm, I'm curious for your thoughts.↗

4:52:06Speaker 16Yeah, I think that, I think that the, oh, sorry. yeah, I, I mean, it, it looks like, there's a, you know, an algorithmic, net that's being woven, and I think that they use, first of all- The, the main function of the internet from the beginning, you know, it was actually a DARPA project, right? The whole internet itself, so coming out of military, military intelligence to begin with. The main object of this DARPA project that became the internet was to Find birds of a feather, that is to classify people according to various group, groupings. That's the main thing that they've been up to. So I think if you look at X that way, you see one of the functions of X is a classificatory function, to make you a certain, put you in a certain classification. And then they use that information and extrapolate into the digital ID, which is on its way.↗

4:53:14Speaker 16And then they have this whole portfolio effectively about you, so that everything you do and every motion you make online and offline for that matter is tracked, traced, you know, and classified. so that's, that's the main function right there. And then I think The other thing is, once they get you classified, I think they put then builders on those classifications,↗

4:53:45Speaker 16so that those classifications have limited reach in some capacity or some, some, some other dampers are put on. But I think first, their first function is first to, you know, look, it's a big honeypot operation act probably, but we're all gonna be in it, so we're all stuck in the glue. They got us, you know, we, we, we, we circulated to where we found ourselves, we found like-minded people, and now they have us classified. That, that function has been done. So the next thing is, what are they gonna do to those people? That's the big question. Not only online, but, you know What's more, co-extensive through the digital ID into banking and everything else, so it's all very, it's all very tricky. We have the great reset coming down vis-a-vis a Trojan horse in Trump, in the Trump administration, where they're setting up this palantir panopticon.↗

4:54:47Ian MalcolmYeah, I couldn't agree with that more. Yeah, it's- Go for it, Chris.↗

4:54:50Speaker 14Absolutely. It's the, and the, you know, the dead internet theory where it's, you know, a lot of the bots are on and, it's, it's the theory that bots will be on the internet more than we are and essentially a lot of the things that people are engaging with are bots. I think most, mo- most of the viral posts that are nonsensical clickbait engagement bait are, are bot farms and bots. I have a true belief in. And I wouldn't mind asking Prashant, a more, a more productive question if you don't mind Ian, unless we're changing on something.↗

4:55:28Speaker 14All right? I'll ask him if you, if you don't, if you don't mind. Prashant, you're, you're our elder, no doubt about it. Congrat-- I'm, I'm proud of you for, for being the age that you are and, and continuing to exercise and, and have good health, and I hope, and I pray the Lord watches over you. And I was just curious,↗

4:55:47Speaker 14you are very familiar with Jewish supremacy, if you will. I was curious as to, how, what age you came about understanding Jews were↗

4:56:01Speaker 15Yeah, I don't mind at all. I, I don't remember what age, it's been. I would, I would just put a guess at around nine eleven is when I started looking deeply into it. I worked on the railroad for thirty-two years, so I didn't have a lot of time to be on the internet. Of course, there wasn't even an internet then, but I didn't have a lot of time to look into politics either. I didn't actually have a lot of time to look into politics until I got injured at work that-- and it was a permanent injury where Worked again after that injury, and that was in two thousand and two. So, and two thousand and one was nine eleven, so in two thousand and two I got permanently injured, and I, started looking into things then. So I would, that, that's my answer. I, I started looking more deeply into things when I didn't have to work any longer and I had more time to do it.↗

4:56:52Speaker 14And, like, what, from what I understand, some of the people that have known about it for some time, they were gathering their information from certain forums and stuff like that. So I don't think it was something you could easily just find out about or research, especially in that time where a lot of that stuff was being moderated and people had to go to some, you know, some smaller, forums or, or more anonymous forums. Where exactly did you learn about that information or gather it?↗

4:57:20Speaker 15Well, I learned about it online. I, I did something in two thousand and five, when I, when I got injured in two thousand and two, there was three years of a trial, you know, for my injury, for my company, a lawyer was suing my company because their equipment broke and had injured me. But in-- So I was on, online a lot, so I did find out a lot online, and I found out an interesting thing online, there was a woman, there is a woman, she's still alive, her name is Cindy Sheehan. She, had a son that went to Iraq and got killed on the fourth day, and so she got really angry and upset about that, of course, and she, along with a group called Veterans for Peace, which is a national organization, they went to George W. Bush's ranch in Texas. And her mission on going to George W. Bush's ranch in Texas was to stand on the road, stop his motorcade, and ask him why her son died for his lies. That was her mission. So I went there, I found out about that place online, and I went there. And we stood, we-- a farm, a local farmer gave us two acres bordering George Bush's ranch. So we would stand on the side of the road, Cindy would, Veterans for Peace would, other people would, and we'd stand on the road and we'd try to stop his motorcade so she could ask him the question. Well, he didn't like that, so he started taking the helicopter in. So we defeated him in that sense, because he turned into a coward. He wouldn't answer one of the people who were his constituents' simple question, "Why did my son die in Iraq?". So, and there were, and there, and that, that, that went on for a month, actually. We stayed there for a month. Joan Baez came down there. I actually picked up Daniel Ellsberg at the, at the airport. Daniel Ellsberg spent a month with us there. The Pentagon Papers man. And the American Indian Movement drove down in a bunch of old, broken-down cars and spent a bunch of time with us. And it was quite a powerful thing. And one incident where I put my life on the line, which I've done a number of times We heard in our camp that there was gonna be a motorcade leaving,↗

4:59:31Speaker 15Bush's Ranch soon. Well, we had vans that we hauled people around in to the, to the various, various places where we had actions. But we heard that there was gonna be a motorcade that was gonna leave the Bush Ranch, but it was gonna be the other road, and that road was a few miles away. So I jumped in the van to drive it, put about seven or eight, demonstrators in there, all with their signs, and I started heading For that other entrance, exit of Bush's ranch. Okay? So, and the land is flat there in Texas, so I'm driving, I'm driving really fast, I wanna get there before they come to the gate, and I look across the field and I see the motorcade coming, and I'm going, we're both going for that same exit of the Bush ranch, and I'm going faster and I'm going faster, and I don't know if they're going faster, but I'm determined to get there before they get to that exit to the ranch, and I made it. And I put that van across the road, and I blocked that motorcade. I fully expected the Secret Service to maybe shoot me, because I essentially blocked the Secret Service with a van on a skinny road. You know what they did instead? They reeled dangerously, every one of those big black limos, they went around my van into a real sideways position in a ditch, and went around me, where their cars could have almost turned over. So that's, that's just a little of my history, where I put my life on the line for the truth. And, well, we still got wars in the Middle East, so, but whatever good it did, I, I did my part.↗

5:01:11Speaker 14Well, thank you for sharing. That's a very interesting and exciting story, a little action packed. Ian or Joanne, do you have any questions?↗

5:01:18@joann_marieNo, I'm good.↗

5:01:21Speaker 14Alright, Koogle, I see you down there, and then we'll get to Michael. What's your, what you got on your mind, Koogle?↗

5:01:29Speaker 19yeah, sorry. So, kinda just going back to everything, you know, I, I was actually born, around 9/11, so it's kinda interesting hearing all the stuff about how, you know, I mean, it makes sense all together how you'd really have to dig deep for world jewelry to really be exposed back then. But all the signs and implications of, you know, their hands in the honeypot were already there.↗

5:01:57Speaker 19and then, you know, going back to Prashant's story, I do appreciate, you know, the, the gesture you're making, you know, trying to do your part. very appreciative. there was something else I wanted to share, along the way, but sorry, I kinda got sidetracked. you can come back to me later if I do, I'll raise my hand, but you can move on to the next speaker if need be.↗

5:02:21Speaker 14Alright, Michael?↗

5:02:23Speaker 16Yeah, I just wanted to speak to Brashaw's, activism 'cause I was involved in very similar activism in the, early 2000s, especially after Bush, which I-- we considered Bush, stole the election in 2000, but, you know, we really didn't know, and so we flew a, we flew a, a plane over the Super Bowl in Florida that year that said "Bush stole." The election, and then they did nine eleven, but we didn't know that behind all of this was, quote unquote, Israel. we didn't know that at the time. Now I can see that Israel builds behind the, assault on Iraq. Of course, they're behind the assault on Iran. They've been behind all the assaults, on the Middle East that, that we have, that we've been completely complicit in. The United States has been complicit in criminality And in fact, participating in it. In Iran, we killed how many children in a school in-- on the first day of that attack, un-un, a completely unprovoked attack against Iran, we killed, over a hundred and eighty children, girls, at a, at a girls' school. Unbelievable. And because of faulty AI, so called. so the same technology that was used in Gaza being used there↗

5:03:54Speaker 16and, but the United States completely complicit now, completely part of Israel's criminality and, you know, effective,↗

5:04:05Speaker 16you know, You know, a complete destruction of children, you know, I mean, the, the, the willingness to slaughter children, which Israel has demonstrated its ability to do on a continuous basis, now we've been drawn into that as well. The United States, it's unbelievable, and we're paying for it all at the same time.↗

5:04:34Speaker 14Yes, sir. Prashant, did you have a response to that? And then we'll get to Google.↗

5:04:42Speaker 15Prashant? Yeah, I was posting to Ian. Me and him are having a battle online here. But anyway, so we had to get rid of that post. Say whatever you want. So we had to get rid of that post, and now Ian can't control himself, he's gonna interrupt me. Wait, what do you mean? Yeah, I did have a response. I did have a response to Michael. It reminded me of that business in Florida where George W. Bush stole the election. That's, that reminded me of that for sure, Michael, and that's what I wanted to comment on, that George W. Bush stole the election, of course. Then the further comment I said that we haven't had a fair election probably since John Kennedy, if that one was fair. We don't know for sure if that one was fair, but we don't and haven't had fair elections in the US for a long time.↗

5:05:28Ian MalcolmI↗

5:05:28Speaker 14agree.↗

5:05:29Ian MalcolmAnd now, now Prashant, Prashant, instead of, coping and just kind of seething in the comments section, just say whatever you wanna say, and then, stop pretending that I'm not giving you a microphone.↗

5:05:40Speaker 15Yeah, I, I'll, I'll say what I wanna say. How 'bout me and you have a space where we both have the ability to- You're in a↗

5:05:45Ian Malcolmspace right now, Prashant.↗

5:05:47Speaker 15I said you didn't listen again, and you're having a hard time listening all day. I said again, how 'bout we have a space where I have the ability to mute you, just as you have the ability to mute me?↗

5:06:01Speaker 15Let's have a space like that. Prashant, I'm breaking↗

5:06:04Ian Malcolmyour mind. I'm muting you right now. Let's↗

5:06:05Speaker 15have a space like↗

5:06:09Speaker 15Space like that, whatever you wanna say, I'm not gonna gaslight you. Are you afraid to have a space like that, Ian? Are you afraid to have a space like that? Why would I give↗

5:06:14Ian Malcolmyou any additional attention? You're not- Are you↗

5:06:16Speaker 15afraid to have a space like that? Afraid of a space? Oh my God, Brian, nobody's afraid. This↗

5:06:21Ian Malcolmis↗

5:06:21Speaker 15why, Ian, then let's, good, Ian, then let's have a space where I have the equal ability to mute. And no one is↗

5:06:26Ian Malcolmmuting you presently. Say↗

5:06:28Speaker 15whatever↗

5:06:36Ian Malcolmyou wanna say. Let There needs to be some other conversation. Speak like an adult in the present. I'm not gonna give you any additional attention. You're obnoxious.↗

5:06:47Speaker 15Thanks for calling me another name. That's what Jews do. Yes, I'm doing that. Oh my God, Professor, stop,↗

5:07:10Speaker 15Let's get it out. Letting you speak. I end up calling somebody a name. Why are you? Are you an old↗

5:07:14Ian Malcolmman, Rashawn? Let's get it↗

5:07:17Speaker 15out. Come over and say that to my face.↗

5:07:18Ian MalcolmRashawn, come over. I'm literally saying to you right now, are you an old man?↗

5:07:25Speaker 15I'm, I'm 76 years old. If you want to- Does that make you an old man, Richard? I'm 76. If you wanna let me answer, let me answer. Otherwise, shut up. Do you want me↗

5:07:32Ian Malcolmto ask Google at what age it's reasonable to say I'm old? You can ask Google all you want.↗

5:07:36Speaker 15Google is Jewish, right? Google is Jewish, right? Isn't Google Jewish? Google is Jewish. Do you want me to make↗

5:07:41Ian Malcolma poll? I made one about you and Google. I don't care about your silly poll. Oh my god It's, it's a, it's a mammal, right? My three-inch hamster is more intelligent than you, you old man. You are an old man. Now, can you have a space where you↗

5:08:04Speaker 15can't mute me?↗

5:08:06Ian MalcolmWhy would I give you any of this↗

5:08:07Speaker 15money? You wanna have a space where you can't mute me, Ian, or are you- You are right↗

5:08:11Ian Malcolmhere. Stop whining and say whatever you wanna say.↗

5:08:14Speaker 14Alright, that was me that muted this time, Prashant. Hey, Prashant, you know, people are gonna say what they want, and I just ask you to practice, you-- This is a great time to practice and demonstrate those yogi skills and control your mental thoughts. No one can upset you. He can, I believe in him. You control those mental thoughts, those are your brain waves, and, and, and, and then think about that as I'm about to say this. There's no-- There, it's, it's a, a very, It is,↗

5:08:46Speaker 14it is beneath you, I would say, to try to say that you need to hold the space so that way you can mute other people. you know, I do, I, I understand you feel disrespected and upset and stuff like that, but, you know, the-- is, we don't need to be power tripping. The only reason we mute people is, is to keep the conversation flowing easily, okay? You're not the only person that happens to, Prashant. People get muted all the time. It's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't take any personal offense to it and, and practice your yogi skills.↗

5:09:19Ian MalcolmLike, no, Chris, let him say whatever he wants to say. It's just giving more nonsensical gaslighting from this old man.↗

5:09:27Speaker 15Good, you, once again, you, Ian, just called me another name, so now I'm gonna- Sean, I'm describing↗

5:09:32Ian Malcolmyou in a real life- Hey, hey, can't you↗

5:09:33Speaker 15control yourself, little girl? You're the one that's not↗

5:09:35Ian Malcolmcontrolling himself.↗

5:09:36Speaker 15Control yourself, little girl. Hey, control yourself.↗

5:09:39Ian MalcolmI'm sorry, I'm just gonna- Control↗

5:09:39Speaker 15yourself, little girl. Hey, little girl, control yourself. I'm not- I didn't mean to- I didn't mean to-↗

5:09:45Speaker 14No, I'm muted, because you're, you're not, you're demonstrating a poor faith of these yogi skills that I thought you were so good at. And, you, you've been, you've controlled your emotions most of the time. You may get a little flared up, but now you've resulted to the very name calling that you, accuse other people of.↗

5:10:04Speaker 14Wait, wait, Chris, it's not, it's not an insult. No, no, I'm not saying that you're Ian, Ian, Ian, Ian, I'm not Ian, It's just the way it is. If I have, you know, my elder saying, "Oh, you know, listen here, young man," da da da, I call people young man, and then, you know, old-- I've called people old man before, okay? But it's, you know, it's all-- it's, you-- it's just the way it is. Like he said, it's a descriptor. So e-- either you're gonna take pride in being an old man, or, or just like I take pride in being a young man,↗

5:10:38Speaker 14one day I will It's like, you know, it's, they're, they're just words, man. This, the yogi stuff should be kicking in.↗

5:10:57Speaker 15Is it my turn now? Okay. Thank you. Now let's see if Christopher and Ian can control themselves like adults and quit acting like Jews supremacists. I'm gonna say it one more time, it's really simple, it's not that complicated. Ian, Christopher, let's have a space where we all three have the mute button. Are you gonna be a man? Are you gonna act like a little girl? You're gonna↗

5:11:23Ian Malcolmact like a little↗

5:11:24Speaker 15girl. He lost it, he lost it, he lost it, he lost it, he lost it, he lost it. No, you've lost a↗

5:11:27Ian Malcolmnote. You're just gaslighting everybody. I'm telling you to speak up, speak your mind, stop whining, and stop trying to create some↗

5:11:38Ian MalcolmOld man. Now say whatever you wanna say and stop gaslighting the room. Everyone sees through this, Prashant. There's nothing remotely intelligent about what you're saying.↗

5:11:49Speaker 15Thanks for acting like a little girl, Ian. I'm over it. Are you going to say anything else? I'm just↗

5:11:55Ian Malcolmover it. No one is muting you. All you keep doing is you keep just gaslighting everybody. That's why somebody said you're more subversive than Yitz. That's in the purple pill. It's not my words, that's somebody else's, just like the ninety-three percent of the poll that said you're less intelligent than my fictional hamster. That's not my fault, old man. Prashant, do you have any response↗

5:12:14Speaker 15other than a space? You proved my point, Ayan. You proved my point. You proved my point. You're afraid to have a conversation. I'm having a conversation. You're↗

5:12:21Ian Malcolmafraid to have a new point. You're↗

5:12:22Speaker 15afraid. You're acting like a little girl, Ayan. You're a coward. Why am I a coward, Prashant? Because you don't have a choice. You don't understand what the safety is about. I'm not making a point. We all three have the mute button. You.↗

5:12:35Ian MalcolmThe mute button.↗

5:12:41Ian MalcolmI Right now, I'm not gonna give you another ounce of my attention after this space because you're obnoxious. Now say whatever you wanna say, you low IQ old man.↗

5:12:51Speaker 15You, you coward, you little girl coward, you're afraid to have a space where we both have a view point. You're a coward little girl. You're a coward little girl. You're a coward little girl. I ain't afraid. You got little flowery panties on. You got little girly flowery panties on, bro. Let's have a space where we're not afraid to have a view point, coward.↗

5:13:15Speaker 14I'm, I'm over here. All right, all right. Don't,↗

5:13:22Ian Malcolmdon't,↗

5:13:23Speaker 14Okay, but I want you to know after those sixty seconds, Prashant, we appreciate the time that you're giving us, even though you-- No, we don't. No, we don't. Yeah, I, I appreciate the, the bit of wisdom that you've provided and the story that you shared. There's no wisdom. The guy... I hear ya, I hear ya, but, you know, we, we-- I just wanna let you know that before you, get-- before they drop you, before one of us drop you,↗

5:13:48Speaker 14because we, we You, you have a, what's the word? You have raised the bar, okay, by saying the little girl and then constantly repeating yourself over and over again instead of ignoring what someone might, would say and then trying to have a conversation. You know, no one's gonna- no one's doing a space, Prashant. It's just the way it is. So change your, change, change the direction of your conversation. Stop calling people cowards, 'cause, dude, Ian is being- I've seen Ian drop people in a dime, in a hat, when I've wanted↗

5:14:23Speaker 14To have allowed you to be on here. Even, dude, I'm surprised he didn't drop you a long time ago. So he's been so kind to you, and I would just ask that you show him some respect, because he could have just dropped you by now, okay? And he's still wanting you to speak, so please speak, but be cordial. He hasn't showed↗

5:14:38Speaker 15me any respect. Yes, he has. Yes, he has. You're↗

5:14:42Speaker 14still here, man. Let me talk. Are you gonna let↗

5:14:44Speaker 15me talk or are you gonna act like a little girl? Let me talk And then mute up and don't, don't interrupt. Just,↗

5:14:51@joann_mariejust say what you wanna say, Rashad, and then we can move on, okay? Don't↗

5:14:54Speaker 15interrupt, don't interrupt, let me talk. Now do your best. See, Ian's gonna interrupt, he's unmuted. All I'm saying is what I've already said, it's not complicated. You guys have muted me again and again, you pretend you're free speech, but every time I say something you don't like, you mute me or you interrupt me. So all I'm saying is, let's have an equal chance. Let's all three have the mute button and have a conversation. Either you're man enough to do it or you're not. It's simple.↗

5:15:21Ian MalcolmI'm offering you a debate right now. What do you want to debate, Prashant?↗

5:15:26Speaker 15I already told you, I am. No, tell me↗

5:15:27Ian Malcolmagain, Prashant. You↗

5:15:28Speaker 15have, you have bad ears, Ion.↗

5:15:29Ian MalcolmPrashant, tell me again, what is the debate? Just↗

5:15:31Speaker 15like you have, give me the mute button. No, this has nothing to do with the↗

5:15:34Ian Malcolmmute button. What is your debate, Prashant? Give↗

5:15:37Speaker 15me the mute button, just like you have. Okay, so your↗

5:15:39Ian Malcolmdebate is whether or not I will give you a mute button. Are you afraid or are you gonna do↗

5:15:44Speaker 15it? That's not actually the debate. It's not complicated,↗

5:15:54Ian MalcolmIon. Take it, let's- I don't have it. I just sent it to you. There you go, Prashant. You are now a co-host of the space. Say whatever you want and debate whatever you want, you old low IQ man. What do you wanna debate?↗

5:16:12Speaker 15I don't wanna debate anything. Oh, I can't believe that line of thinking. Why do you keep, why do you keep interrupting? Why do you keep interrupting? Stop acting like a damn little Jew girl. Quit interrupting me. I don't wanna have a debate, I wanna have a conversation. Alright, I'm interrupting. Preshawn, you better↗

5:16:27Speaker 14mute me. You better mute me. You better hit that damn mute button, Preshawn.↗

5:16:31Speaker 15Come on, look at me, I'm interrupting. You better mute my ass, Preshawn.↗

5:16:35Speaker 14You better hit that mute You don't use that mute button on a show for a low IQ old man, Prashant. You add nothing to value. That is↗

5:16:47Speaker 23my position. You like that? You don't deserve to↗

5:16:51Speaker 17hold your money back.↗

5:16:52Speaker 14Prashant, you gotta mute everyone. Prashant, the space is getting chaotic. You gotta mute us. There you go, Prashant.↗

5:16:59Ian MalcolmYou're now controlling the↗

5:17:01Speaker 15space↗

5:17:01Speaker 14right↗

5:17:01Speaker 15now. What do you want to talk about? I give all the speakers permission to speak. Everyone just start speaking until Prashant mutes us. I give all the speakers permission↗

5:17:11Ian Malcolmto speak.↗

5:17:12Speaker 22Everyone↗

5:17:12Ian Malcolmstarts to be like, "Why isn't↗

5:17:16Speaker 17this a war score?" And twenty years ago, "Usa, Usa." What,↗

5:17:20Ian Malcolmwhat is, what is the debate point again, Prashant? Do you even have one? 'Cause you just said you wanted a debate, and then you said, "No, I don't want a debate." I don't want to have a↗

5:17:26Speaker 15debate. I want to have a conversation. Are you capable of a conversation? So your debate point is, "Have a conversation." I am. Debates have winners and↗

5:17:40Ian Malcolmlosers. I don't like winners and losers, Let's have a conversation.↗

5:17:42Speaker 15What are we even talking about? Let's have it. Let's have it right now. Let's have it. Let's have it right now. Let's have it. Let's have it right now. Let's have a conversation. Let's have a conversation.↗

5:17:55Ian MalcolmDo you realize that Prashant, you've lost your debate? I gave you the co-host position. You can't even debate. I don't even debate,↗

5:18:00Speaker 15dummy. I don't even debate. Let's have a conversation. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Let's have a So, Ian, are you capable of a conversation? You have co-hosts on the phone. You have a conversation on the phone right now. Ian, Ian, are you able to have a conversation↗

5:18:28Speaker 14with↗

5:18:32Speaker 24the co-hosts on the phone? I'm like, no Dude, fuck you, dude. Ian Malcolm's been gracious enough to give you a co-host, ask you for a fucking debate. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little↗

5:18:57Speaker 15Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey, little Chrissy. Hey Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna remove, we're now gonna just↗

5:19:14Ian Malcolmremove Prashant from the conversation and the space altogether. We, we defeated his debate attempt, because he said that we wouldn't give him the co-host, and then we did. And then I brought him up, and I said, "What do you want to debate?" And he said, "I don't have anything to debate. I just wanna have a conversation, which we demonstrated that we were willing to have, at which point it devolved into utter chaos. Do you know why? Because↗

5:19:41Ian MalcolmThat is my assessment, it's also ninety plus percent of the people in this room's assessment. He then went on to cry about it on his timeline, "Oh, he won't debate me," which we then brought him up, and I asked him, "What do you want to debate?" "Well, I don't." I wanna have a conversation, but you won't do that, which we were actively doing, Prashant. I'm sorry that words don't have meanings to you apparently. I'm sorry that you're less intelligent than my little friend, Mr. Precious, the hamster, the Joanne, an image of.↗

5:20:11Speaker 14Dude, he's an official meme now, Mr. Precious. Dude, that's living on in legend. Mr. Precious, the↗

5:20:16Ian Malcolmhamster. So, I'm gonna bring up, like, so iconic for a long time. Oh, no, you didn't. I, Iconic, for a long time, I thought you were the lowest IQ person who came into my space with regularity. Yeah, I,↗

5:20:30Speaker 17I, I also owe you an apology, Iconic. But I think Iconic,↗

5:20:33Ian MalcolmI was wrong. You have been surpassed. Prashant has demonstrated that, that you are certainly more intelligent than he is. at least in my opinion and that of my hamster. And so, Iconic, I'm curious for your thoughts on the devolution of the space that just turned into an other, utter nonsense show. Real↗

5:20:50Speaker 14quick, I People, and you never pressed that damn mute button, as far↗

5:20:57Speaker 25as I'm concerned. You get the power and you just-- That was unbelievable. That's the power. Well, you guys don't have↗

5:21:03Speaker 15the power. I was gonna tell Mr. John that↗

5:21:07Speaker 22I'm, sorry, I'm sixty-one. So if someone says, refers to me as a young man, that's-- I take that that they're mocking me. I'm like, whoa, whoa, I'm sixty-one. Do I look young? No. So, Prasad, if you're in the tunnels listening, think about↗

5:21:27@joann_marieThink↗

5:21:27Speaker 14about↗

5:21:31Speaker 14that shit. This is- All right, I can- What is it, Iconic, and then what is it, Zapatachi?↗

5:21:37Speaker 26Hi, I am, thank you for having me on the Spaces. Actually, this is the first time I get in, I talk on Spaces, so forgive me because, English isn't my mother tongue. Oh, well, welcome, welcome, thank you↗

5:21:49Ian Malcolmfor being here.↗

5:21:51@joann_marieBienvenido, Zapatachi.↗

5:21:52Speaker 26Yeah, I couldn't resist. Thank you. Gracias. I couldn't resist, you guys talking, well, not you guys, but, this, this guy that we have, the yogi, talking about, jogis and, and Hinduism, and Michael saying that, this is, this is, okay with Christianity, with, with, which is actually completely the opposite. when you practice yoga, you are paying to other deities, and it's actually a very, a very,↗

5:22:28Speaker 26wrong thing to do from a Christian perspective. I truly believe, I've studied this for quite a while, and I truly believe that, everything has to do with yoga, meditation, Hinduism, or any other type of, of, of following like that is, purely, Luciferian. And it's not compatible with Christianity at all. And just, that's just what I wanted to say in this space. I hope you, you, you get informed about this and you make your, your mind about it, but it's absolutely the contrary, and, and no Christian, should practice this, these philosophies. Can you explain and--↗

5:23:12Speaker 14Wait, wait, wait, can you elaborate further because me as a peasant who is just, you know, only understanding the bare bones of it Meditation and then the practice of like physical yoga, which from my understanding is just like stretches and all that, and then controlling one's thoughts and minds. Again, I don't know the deeps of it, but that's-- those three things are kind of the things that I understand. They-- I, I feel like as a people, a few people in the space said that they feel like it could be compatible with Jesus Christ and Christianity. Could you explain what you see in, in that philosophy that would be not compatible?↗

5:23:49Speaker 26Well, let's talk about yoga for an, for an instance. every, every, movement you do, all the rituals you do, all the things that you, that you, express, all the postures you do, you're actually, praying to another deity. I would refer you, there's lots of stuff about this on the internet. I would refer you to, to many people that are talking about this, many priests. there's a great book that, I would encourage you all to, to read. It's called, "Tibetian Darkness."↗

5:24:28Speaker 26it's from, Christ. This is called Federico Juan Hinton. but, you're actually not, doing, you're, you're actually paying homage to, to, to other deities, and it's Luciferian at the end.↗

5:24:47Speaker 21Sir, sir, what do you think about the, the verse, "Be still and know that I am God"?↗

5:24:55Speaker 26what do I think about it?↗

5:24:57Speaker 21Yeah, doesn't it mean like, what, what about just like sitting still? Do you consider that like an evil form of yoga, just kind of sitting still, trying to, you know, Mel Gibson said he practices mindfulness kind of meditation in the mornings now, just to kind of, I, I honestly need to do it, I'm horrible at it, because as you can tell, I talk too fast, like right now.↗

5:25:12Speaker 26Well, you can do that, you can do that by praying, you can do that by praying the rosary.↗

5:25:17Speaker 21Those are interchangeable. Those are interchangeable words though, 'cause Like a, like a Jedi master, right? Jesus, Jesus was the ultimate master Jedi, Son of God.↗

5:25:28Speaker 26Well, I don't, I, I don't think that is anything. We also said that faith can only come by fasting and praying, like↗

5:25:35Speaker 21you said, but I think he was talking about more of a, a deeper kind of a prayer, maybe a sitting still like Mel Gibson does in the morning. I↗

5:25:41Speaker 26can't- Well, that's, that's good.↗

5:25:43Speaker 21But that wasn't↗

5:25:44Speaker 26talking about- I, I would. I, I pray sitting still. But that doesn't mean I'm doing yoga. If you do yoga, all the things that you do- Yoga, sir, what's your definition of yoga? Well, yoga, it's a, it's a, it's a ritual. It's a, it's a, it's a Luciferian ritual that you, all the, the, the, the practices you do, all the movements you do, you are, you are,↗

5:26:09Speaker 26praying to, to another di-d- deity.↗

5:26:13Speaker 14Can you do the same movements, can you do the same movements while you're praying to God? If I'm understanding also in the scripture, also in the scripture it says meditate upon the word of God, if I'm correct. So, are you saying you couldn't do these stretches while meditating on the word of God?↗

5:26:32Speaker 26I don't think so. I think it's contrary to the- I think it's the intention↗

5:26:35@joann_mariebehind it what matters.↗

5:26:38Speaker 23Yeah, so okay, here's the, here's, here's the reason why Christian theologians have an issue with mediti- It's because from, from a meditation standpoint, what's the whole premacy behind meditation from the Eastern philosoph- from Eastern philosophy? It's generally emptying the mind, oneness with the universe, these ideas of like, sort of communal force. This isn't something that works in the Christian, like if you're a Christian, this isn't, something that you can do or should do. so if by meditation you mean the Eastern- Sort of view of emptying your mind and like becoming one with the universe. Sorry?↗

5:27:15Speaker 25Would you say Christians shouldn't do?↗

5:27:17@joann_marieNo, I can't let him, let him just finish.↗

5:27:21Speaker 23Yeah. So if Christians are sitting there trying to completely empty their mind and sort of become one with the universe as the Eastern philosophies teach, instead of sort of trying to contemplate on God's attributes, on the, you know, on prayer and on God Himself, then this is where the problem comes in. the stretches in and of themselves aren't a problem generally, but, all of these, like the, a lot of these poses and all, a lot of like these, movements in physical yoga aren't even great stretches Some of them are actually not very healthy for you and are built around like, around like, deity, like worship for certain other, like, there's this, yeah, some of it's realist- ritualistic, exactly right. Like there's this thing called moksha, which is this concept of like liberation through physical movement and shit like this. And some of these, these, yoga practices, they sort of try to teach unity with Brahman and stuff like this, but this isn't to be confused with physical stretching and shit like this. And a lot of yoga movements and, you know, like dynamic stretching, perfectly healthy, something you should definitely do, you know what I mean? But, Oh,↗

5:28:26Speaker 21sir, who, this gentleman talking right now, you're extremely knowledgeable, by the way, this gentleman just speaking right now, and the, the last guy who was on who claimed to be a yogi, didn't know one thing. This gentleman talking right now knows pretty much everything about yoga. This guy's really smart. But, a-and I wanted to ask you, sir, because like you just said, okay, Jesus said↗

5:28:49Speaker 21Becoming one with the real God, which is love, right? The God is light, God is love, that's the real light, the real love. Now, now the Satanism is the opposite, right? The magic, and the black magic, and all that, the Rothschild stuff. That's about becoming your own god. They literally just say it. So it's, it's, that's the polar opposite of, of what Jesus taught, what Christ taught, dissolving our egos, becoming one with the real God, and then creating a better world, like Ian always talks about↗

5:29:19Speaker 17Yeah, look, and, and also I would say if, if the, if it originated in India, and I, and I look at India, it doesn't give me a lot of hope that, that it's, it's, it's the real deal. It's like when I look at the argument, right? It's like when I look at Byzantium, Byzantium, for instance, that, that empire, you know, that, that survived the longest, that took on Christianity in the year three hundred, it just gives me hope that, you know, maybe- This is much better than something coming from India, I'm just saying.↗

5:29:54@joann_marieThank you, right. I mean, I, I like yoga, but I don't do it to like summon stuff, you know? Like it's just nice to, to relax and to calm, especially when you have ADHD, it's really nice. You feel like you're on a beach, but you're not on a↗

5:30:06Speaker 16beach.↗

5:30:08@joann_marieIt's, I, I like it.↗

5:30:09Speaker 16I think, I think we just con- you know, there's, there's a little bit of confusion about yoga, I guess. it seems to me that, look, I agree that if you're getting into basically postures that are ritualistic and, you know, have been effectively- Opposed to worship particular deities and stuff, that, that is not at all, compatible with Christianity, obviously. my point was simply, if you're just doing like physical movements, stretches that, that are all- Christianity↗

5:30:43Speaker 26says God sent the Son.↗

5:30:46@joann_marieIconic impulse control.↗

5:30:49Speaker 16Yeah. But, but he's a guru. He's a guru. That's it. That's guru↗

5:30:52Speaker 21speak.↗

5:30:52Speaker 16Yeah, I know. Joanne is↗

5:30:53Speaker 21so badass.↗

5:30:55Speaker 16Yeah, but- One of the things is that, you know, there's, there's no question that, that, that Buddhism and, other, other Eastern religions are more nihilistic in the sense that they don't posit any kind of god or anything. It's like the universe is like, in Buddhism at least, you know, everything is bad and basically life itself is an evil in itself. So, and the whole idea is to get the hell out of here.↗

5:31:24Speaker 16but, You know, Christianity posits something much more, much, much, much more positive. It's not just a negation of evil or something like that. It's actually a promise of, paradise, and, that, that's something that I think is a very distinguishing factor between Christianity and other, other creeds.↗

5:31:48Speaker 14Are you sure that Christianity isn't supremacy and violence? 'Cause I've been told. Yeah. I mean, really.↗

5:31:58Speaker 21But I, I, I, I loved, I just, I loved what the gentleman who just spoke just said, I thought it was brilliant. And actually, every-- after everything I've searched, right? 'Cause I used to be one of these guys, I, I wanted to figure out like, what's the-- how do you break the matrix, right? Escape the matrix, that's the goal, but then go where?↗

5:32:13Speaker 21What are we gonna-- Like, what, what do you do? So like, what do you, what do you do if you're For a new millennium. So I posted in the comments a po-a quote by Yogananda. Now, if that gentleman before, who was on there, that idiot, if he actually knew anything about yoga, he would know about Yogananda. George Harrison would hand out autobiography of a yogi all the time. Now, Harrison died a Christian. Christian Finapalli is the one who-- But, but, but, but the thing is, Yogananda and his guru, Sri, I wanna pronounce it right, Sri or Sri Yukteswar, the guy with these These guys are brilliant. He wrote The Holy Science, that guy, his guru, but Yogananda wrote Autobiography of a Yogi, okay? These guys revere Jesus. They basically all but say he's the Son of God. He is the Son of God. They don't have to say it, okay? So you can see the quote that I have from him about Jesus, and also Nikola Tesla's buddy, Walter Russell, and you'll see how the two quotes are describing the same universe, which I believe in Yogananda describes. He describes God as ever new, ever increasing bliss, And you talk about cycles, right? Even Rock-- I, I was looking at an old clip of Stallone when he was making Rocky, and he was like, "You know, it's, it's cyclical," he's like, "It's cyclical, cyclical." I'm like, "Yeah, man." I'm like, "I'm like, think about these old temples and all that and all this stuff. All it means is, look at Star Wars, right? Think about Star Wars. A galaxy a long, long time ago, but it's really now, too. It↗

5:33:37Speaker 21But in order to build a better world, you gotta have people who don't sell out and who aren't greedy. So we're building better people too. It's like that's the purpose of these worlds and these cycles. And this earth's never going away. We'll keep repeating this damn cycle. I think it just goes over and over. I think it's about twenty-four thousand year cycles we do, from what I gather. Rudolf Steiner kind of taught Talked about that. I have no idea if any of this is true. These are just some way off ideas that I have, but I love it.↗

5:34:00Ian MalcolmNo, and for what it's worth, I just wanna, I wanna give, kudos to everybody that's up here on the panel. You should give all of them a, a follow. Lots of people liked the force that we did a really interesting space on, the connection between Epstein and Maxwell to COVID-19, which was, I gotta be honest, one of the more terrifying ones that, we've covered.↗

5:34:24Ian MalcolmMentioned in the thank you section of a book written by one of the most prominent people involved in EcoHealth Alliance's rollout of the COVID vaccine, isn't that just crazy? so I wanna give him a big, big shout out along with. So he was, he, he was revering the intellect of the one and only Colin, who I used to be blessed to be able to speak with every single day. I hope he gets to come around more often when we do these spaces. He's absolutely brilliant. And the thing that's so interesting Is somebody like Colin, right? He, myself, we would talk in, JQ Radio back in the day, that he, Wolf, and Uncensored all set up. And the thing that's so interesting is there are few people on this app better to have a very heated debate with than somebody like Colin, who can discuss any aspect of this with somebody who's a completely different position, and it might be on the JQ and Jews, it might be on race realism, right? But able to keep his calm and to always deliver with composure, really compelling arguments and points while also- Also conceding those of others, right? The alternative perspectives. He, and I'll also give out, credit to Rabbi Malia, who I think does a wonderful job of this exact issue. So I wanna give them, as well as Dr. Rechtenwald and Azapak, all the things that they're doing to actually bring a sincere, let's say, meaningful political action that is in direct opposition to Jewish supremacy. It is the first of its kind. I believe it is going to go down in the history books, and that fifty years from now, people will be looking back As essentially akin to the founding fathers, because this is how we build a rejection to Jewish supremacy, right? Back to the idea of Matthew ten thirty-seven, the idea of, "He who does not pick up his cross is not worthy of me," right? Colin did that when he set up a twenty-four hour live broadcast to discuss Jewish supremacy. Dr. Recktenwald is doing that by founding ASAPAC, taking all the knowledge that he has on the political machine. How do you bring about real, meaningful change? As did The one and only Christopher Wood, who is up here with us. He went into town squares, town hall, to city centers. He said, "Hey, is it weird that all of these COVID leaders, speaking of which, that all of them happen to be Jewish, is that weird?" Right? He was having these conversations long before this was a common dialogue on the app that is X. Right? So he was a pioneer in many ways of free speech. He was picking up his cross, as Joanne does. I gotta call out the co-host with the most, is- Every day on this app, almost, it's supporting either myself, Truth Teller, or going into other spaces. She is an absolute rock star, right? She is the hero. She runs this ship better than anybody. And for what it's worth, for anybody who doesn't recognize the importance of navigating these conversations, look what happened when we removed Christopher as co-host, we brought somebody else on. Right? The conversation devolved rapidly, and I've seen many, many, many spaces run by many different people go the exact same direction. It takes a skill- Skill and an art to do this. I couldn't never without Miss Joanne. She's absolutely a superstar. As are so many of the other speakers up here. I wanna give a massive amount of love to Mr. Raed. He's my brother from another mother on another side of this planet. Speaking of the galaxy far, far away, right? He's in a world far, far away. Growing up in a totally different culture, perhaps with a different slant on the world, right? You might see the two of us, we might be in the tube in London, walk by one another, We are, and that's what I love about this app, we're finding all these people that are willing to stand behind this common cause to merely try, like I was just said, to make the world a better place, right? We can all be part of that, and that's why we'll continue doing all these conversations as we do. I wanna make sure that we go around the rest of the room, if anybody hasn't gotten a chance to speak or if you do have something that you would like to share before we wrap up in the next maybe fifteen minutes or so, please feel free to jump in↗

5:38:24Ian MalcolmAnd Miss Joanne to see if they've got anything immediately on their mind.↗

5:38:30Speaker 14I don't have anything immediately on my mind. Thank you so much for all the compliments that you've given everybody.↗

5:38:39@joann_marieI just wanna say I, I, I love you guys. I'm every day I wake up and I'm so grateful for all of you. I, it's Especially for Ian and Truth, you guys are, yeah, you guys are my absolute heroes, and I love you. And of course, Christopher, Michael, Colin, right? everybody here, you guys are, yeah, an absolute inspiration, and you guys give me the strength every single day, and the inspiration is the most important one. Every time I get, black peeled, I literally just come to you guys, and it's just I, I couldn't be here without you, so thank you. It's a lonely, it's lonely out here, right? You know, like when, when you know about everything, it's, it's hard. So, yeah, without you guys, I, it's-- Thank you, I'm so grateful that said.↗

5:39:26Speaker 14Joanne, quick question, how is the, how are, are people talking about Jewish supremacy over there? Y'all have a-- I know that, from what I understand, a lot of the potential presidents got assassinated before that female Jewish president happened to just so luckily get↗

5:39:44@joann_marieYes, I mean, I, I'm, I'm in a small town in the north, and, yeah, I mean, we, we haven't been indoctrinated with the Holocaust situation. There isn't a single synagogue in my hometown, you know? So we don't have like that. Like nobody has ever heard that antisemitism is a word like they have, like if you're like, "Oh my God, you're not antisemitic," they're like, "What does that mean?" You know? Like, so, yeah, I, I mean Yeah, they-- and there is a lot of people from Palestine and Lebanon here as well, so they, I mean, they obviously know. May-- maybe there isn't that many that know like it's the Jews, but they have like, you just tell them and they just accept it really, really quick. Like I literally jpeeled my, my, my gardener, my, my dentist, like, "How do you jpeeled your dentist?" Like it's the place where you talk the least, but I did it, you know? Like, and they just accepted really quick.↗

5:40:42@joann_marieYeah, it's good over here. I don't know.↗

5:40:45Speaker 14Is the cartel-- So-- Is the cartel, from what I understand, some folks are saying the cartel is controlled by Mossad and Israel to cause, disruption within Mexico. Is that true or what's the deal with that?↗

5:40:58@joann_marieYes, it is true, but I don't think a lot of them know that it's Israel and Mossad because apparently they're like super anti-Semitic as well. So, yeah, they, like, when one of them got caught or something, they were like spray-- Spray painting the, the Star of David and calling them demons. So, I don't know, I, I don't look a lot into the, the cartel like culture, I don't like it, but, yeah, no, they are definitely controlled by, by Mossad and they are the ones who taught them how to dissolve bodies and how to, they give them the weapons and stuff like that, so yeah.↗

5:41:38Speaker 14Alright, and, I do, I thought we had a new speaker up here, the base Gentile or something, but he, he wasn't up. I know Iconic, we brought him up, and then, we were supposed to ask him something, and then, Zapata gave his speech. I wasn't↗

5:41:53Speaker 20paying attention.↗

5:41:55Speaker 14All right, well, did you need to share anything, Iconic? Any final words as we're closing down the space and getting through people?↗

5:42:05Speaker 26What was that?↗

5:42:08Speaker 22What's that? Iconic, you were asked if you can share any closing thoughts.↗

5:42:14Speaker 19I can't, there's nothing to follow up on if I wasn't listening. You don't wanna repeat?↗

5:42:19Ian MalcolmWell, why don't we not do that? But thank you for being↗

5:42:24Speaker 17so iconic. You can listen to the recording and come back tomorrow. Ten↗

5:42:28Speaker 14points, ten points taken from Sutherland.↗

5:42:33Ian MalcolmHey, but he, he, I think he earned fifteen throughout the space, right? So he's, he's still up five.↗

5:42:38Speaker 16Hey, I just wanna say thanks so much for having me on. I love you guys. It's really, always a warm, really a warm place to come to. And, I feel very, very open about sharing my, my thoughts, intimate thoughts and other thoughts regarding, you know, what we're up against, and, I think people understand what I'm saying here. And, that's a really welcome thing, to be, to be understood and to be able to understand each other and to unify in a way that's extremely important for our survival. I think that's what we're doing. So, thanks to everybody. I'm gonna sign off and I'll talk to you soon. Take care. Bye.↗

5:43:23@joann_marieThanks, Michael. And I did hope--↗

5:43:25Speaker 14I'm Lori. I did post your, your ASPEC, the Anti-Zionist Political Action Committee, in the purple pill. He's got fifty thousand-something followers, so he's doing a good job. So, if anyone's looking to follow that and, and help him, you know, he's organized a movement, so, you know, go in the purple pill if you wanna see that or, or search, what is it called again, Michael? The handle?↗

5:43:54Speaker 14I think he's outta here. I'll put it into the, into the next-↗

5:43:57Speaker 16Anti-ZIO AMPAC, Anti-ZIO AMPAC, that's the handle on X. but if you just search for Azapac, A Z A P A C, you'll find it. And then of course, our website is A Z A dash PAC dot com, Azapac dot com. With a hyphen between Aza and Pac, P A C.↗

5:44:21@joann_marieHi, is that↗

5:44:22Speaker 14your wife in the↗

5:44:22@joann_mariebackground? It's Lottie, give her, give her all the love.↗

5:44:26Speaker 16That's great. That's Lori. She's my, she's my, she's my treasure at Aza-Pac, but also she's my fiancé.↗

5:44:35Speaker 14Well, she seems like a very supportive woman, and, and that's wonderful. We were talking earlier about women that can distract you from your purpose or encourage you for your purpose, and it sounds like you got a good woman that encourages you Fire under you to make a change in the world, that's a big deal.↗

5:44:50Speaker 16Yeah, she's wonderful. I mean, like the most faithful and, absolutely like loyal person you'll ever meet, like, and also will do anything for me at any time of the day or night, it's amazing. So she is like my right hand person.↗

5:45:05Speaker 14That's so supremacist. Just, no, that's a great thing, that's a great thing.↗

5:45:11Ian MalcolmNo, and I, I just, I put that up into the nest. I also just reshared that, Dr. Recknwald, 'cause I guess it's been, maybe six months or so since that dropped. A wonderful video, on a wonderful mission. We should all get that out to the masses as best we can. but, lots of love to yourself and to Laurie, Dr. Recknwald, as always, an absolute pleasure to have you in here. Let's check in with, Ryan real quick before we go back↗

5:45:35Speaker 17Yeah, I, I would just wanna express my so, such gratitude, for, for being, with you and around you, beautiful people. You know, and, and Christopher and Restivo, you have told me, you know, a couple of years back that, you know, at the time where the, the battle, both intellectual and the way it goes on in my side of the world, it's gonna be at its highest, and you're gonna find a group of wonderful people that you like, you- You'll love by that time, I do, a lot of you, and you're gonna be on a Jewish app with, with friends from all over the world and, and having this, this sort of beautiful camaraderie. I would tell you, "Yeah,↗

5:46:18Speaker 17you need to change dealers, your crack is terrible, you need to take some other drugs or whatever." You know, I wouldn't have believed anything. So it's such a miracle, seriously, to have you, at, you know, every one of you. And like Joanne said, it, it can get dark It can get lonely, but I believe, you know, when we're together, especially on these spaces, especially the ones that Ian, holds and, and Joanne, and now we-- I got to know Christopher a lot more, and Colin, the guy that I met, maybe the second or third guy on this app, maybe two, three, two years ago, or more, it's just, it's just such a blessing, it is such a beautiful thing. So, so much love and gratitude to all of you, beautiful people. Thank you. Right.↗

5:47:05@joann_marieDo you remember when nobody knew about Palestine, like no one? You know, like I would never expect people to, to know what was going on there. So I'm so grateful for you guys to also speak so passionately about it so that more people know. And, yeah, and also when I said it, it gets lonely, it used to be a lot lonelier, right? And maybe Ian and Truth, and no, and, and Christopher that knew this way before me, it was even lonelier. So, no, right now it's growing and- The community is beautiful. So,↗

5:47:36Ian Malcolmyeah, that's it, sorry. No, no, I was just gonna say let's, let's check in, before we come back up to Joanne and Christopher, let's check in with Mr. Cowan and, get his thoughts on, on kind of the state of the world and where we're going.↗

5:47:47Speaker 23well, I'm wiped out as usual, no matter what. Anyway, I think it's a waste of time not to be, you know? But, I, it was a good space for as short as I was, listening. I didn't get to listen to the whole thing today, unfortunately. And you know what? I missed, I missed your space with E Michael Jones, dude. I got busy, and, I have to go listen to the recording. I missed that whole entire thing. I didn't even get to stop by, which was really disappointing. I wanted to, I wanted to be a part of that one, but, I hope you guys had a good one nonetheless.↗

5:48:14Ian MalcolmNo, we, we definitely did, and it was interesting. Colin, I'm curious for your thoughts on, on one of the comments that he made. he talked about how during his life, he basically witnessed what he called the third republic of the United States, and said, this was going to be the end of this phase, whatever that might be, and, whatever is to come is gonna be renewed. And so I'm curious what you think our chances are of making that a, a better republic in the not so distant future.↗

5:48:41Speaker 23Well It's hard to say what our chances of winning are. I think that they're pretty high. I think that it's higher than everybody else's chance of winning, that's for sure. I think that he's a hundred percent right about a coming sort of change in the way in which we do things, not just in the US, definitely in the US, but I think globally as well. I think this little experiment of, you know, everywhere needs a democracy, everywhere needs global you know, integration everywhere needs to sort of, you know, this globalism that we are, that we spend a lot of time talking about. I think that even for people that aren't in the know like us, a lot of people are just kind of looking around and noticing that this isn't really working so well and that it seems to be that the, some of the experiments, some of the liberal experiments that were, that kind of started to become popular. I don't know if you guys remember, but speaking of remembering when nobody remembered even, or even knew- Where Palestine was. I remember a decade, maybe a decade and a half ago, whenever transgenderism as an ideology and stuff like this was still pretty fringe, and I remember thinking distinctly back then, like, "You know, whenever this gets into things like sports and other worldly things like that, people are gonna come to their senses, and this will all be like hilarious to think back on." And, I was probably just too naive and young at the time to realize how dumb that thought was, because that's not the way it went. But I do think now, after all of the chaos We're starting to have that thought, finally, which is that this just doesn't work and we're gonna need to change the way that we're doing things if we want things to start working again, you know?↗

5:50:22Ian MalcolmNo, it's exactly↗

5:50:22Speaker 23correct. And, and↗

5:50:23Ian Malcolmthat is the, the beauty, right? And, and it's so interesting 'cause again, Colin Wolf and Uncensored, the founders of JQ Radio, they ran it, I don't even know, I, I think it might have been for an entire year, essentially running twenty-four seven. At one point, even Grok would acknowledge that they had the world record for the longest running ex-space, which to put in pers-perspective, I think it was, the Colin, it was six or seven days. Am I, am↗

5:50:51Ian MalcolmEight hours, whatever that is in days, it's a lot. that's, yeah, seven or so. so virtually an entire week of non-stop content with people going through, making sure to pick up the microphone, continue the conversation, and then of course they would turn on Hitler speeches, which, as wild as this is, that Uncensored was doing the translations of back in the day, and he was having AI script them out. Those are now commonplace on the internet. He was the first person that was largely creating, and I guess you could use the term, propagandizing those to the masses. And think of where we've come today, where you have individuals on X that have probably not even recognized Jewish supremacy, but they're looking back at World War II and saying, "Well, that's kinda curious, right? Why didn't I ever hear about these things? Why was I always told this was the villain? And yet he's talking about his love for his people, the need to protect... Nature and children and all these other good inherent things. It's very, it's wild to think that in essentially the span of about three years under the unlocking of X, supposedly with Elon Musk, we know all the trapdoors that are there, right? But we gotta give credit where it's due, and within this application, in the three years since they opened up Twitter, we have made a massive change in the zeitgeist, and for folks like Colin and I, and I know Joanne and Raed certainly, right? We can see that we can just- Describe that because we know what this was like five or ten years ago. You were the absolute crazy person. You were, you were, let's say, the scourge of, of public discourse. If you're in a political space, you could be with the most radical of individuals, and, and this was essentially Verboten. It was utterly insane. And I would sit there and I'd say, "But, but, guys, look, I've got all this data. Look, look at all these Jews." And then they'd say, "Get out. You're an antisem I said, "Uh, but I, I'm, I'm really, I think I'm right, Dad. And so to now think that we can go into some of the biggest spaces on X and say, 'The Jews run Hollywood, and they run the media, and they run big tech, and they ran almost all the COVID companies, and they clearly run the politicians.'" And, and there's almost no space at this point that won't say, "Like, wow, maybe you, maybe you kinda have a, a point." And when they do, it's so obvious to everybody that they're just obfuscating and lying, right? Because we've got the data. And so as wild as it is, 'cause Colin, I remember being with Colin and trying to go into other rooms that were, let's just say, more racially radical, and they would say these things about the Jews, and Colin and I and a couple others would be like, "Yeah, but↗

5:53:36Ian MalcolmIs, is more appealing to other people. How dare you, you idiot! That message ain't never gonna go nowhere.↗

5:53:44Speaker 25What are you getting paid? What are you fucking doing? You a shill now, dude? You getting a check? Yeah. You know what, I always knew you were a fucking-- I knew, you know what, I knew you were a Jew. You're a Jew, must be a Jew. Yeah. Oh, you,↗

5:53:55Ian Malcolmyou just wanna be-- You want this message to be irrelevant? It's never gonna go nowhere! If you talk about it like that. No, I, I think it will. I think if you walk into town centers like Christopher Wood did, heroically and patriotically, and said, "Let me tell you all the Jews at the top of COVID," right? If you do that from a position of, "I don't hate anybody. I, I love my creator. I love all of humanity, and I want the world to be a better place for the children that come after us," and then you say, "And I think there's a problem, and I think the problem's disproportionately led by↗

5:54:29Ian MalcolmPeople have to at least listen to you, and when they do, they gotta concede there's something to this worldview. And then we had Gaza, and then we had the Epstein files, and then we had the war with Iran, and now we've had Keir Starmer and all of his insanity in the UK, and we are seeing that speech of the most hateful variety is totally fine, unless you peacefully say, "But look at all those Jews in power, right? They make our point."↗

5:54:57Ian MalcolmAnd so we are winning our, our PR campaign, right? That frankly, this is the cross that some of us elected to pick up. It is, I, I think to-- I mean, we've got the force on the panel with us. He is, embodying Obi-Wan Kenobi, right? That was against the Empire, right? Our battle of our lifetime is against Jewish supremacy that is clearly You could either say it's the Empire or it's the rebels. I don't actually know, 'cause I think in some ways you could make the argument that the idea of order, right? That natural order, that I suppose is what the Empire wanted, lots of order and control, right? You could probably make the argument that either side is the Jew or the Gentile, but either way, the thing that we certainly know is that we are in opposition to that which is evil, bombing children mercilessly. Sexually abusing children on an island so that you can blackmail politicians. None of this is remotely defensible, and so we are speaking out against it, and we have taken, again, a taboo conversation, and we have moved that forward by lovingly discussing it in a factual fashion while saying, "I'm trying to do that which is good," and eventually people are gonna listen. More and more will listen, and we've got bigger and bigger voices that are starting to come along to these issues and these ideas. It doesn't mean, for what it's worth, I wanna call this one out, it doesn It doesn't mean that anybody that is willing to talk about Israel, that we should just presume that everything about them is good. There are going to be detractors within our ranks. I'm sure everybody saw Tucker Carlson. We learned that lesson the↗

5:56:28Speaker 23hard way, right? A few times.↗

5:56:30Ian MalcolmOh, abs- and even within our microchannel, right? Within these spaces, we've seen people, Luke is ga- Luke is Gage. Wow, that was a comedic one, right? But we've also seen some of the bigger voices. We've seen Tucker Carlson advance the conversation on Israel, that is good, coming out and saying JD Vance is the solution. That is weird. We should call that out a hundred percent, right? I think it was within the last forty-eight hours or so that that came out. JD Vance is clearly owned by Peter Thiel, not just his political campaign, not just the movie that was used clearly to propagandize him. I mean, think about that for a moment. A book that's written about this very, very small public persona who's in politics that just somehow gets a Ron Howard-directed film pushed out to every theater in the country. Really? That's just pure coincidence? No, it's- Propaganda, right? His political rise, propaganda, largely funded by Peter Thiel, we know all about him, right? But it's not even just the, the public kind of political realm. JD Vance, in his private career, was funded by Peter Thiel. He worked at two different companies, and according to a lot of the people that worked at those companies, they don't even know what he did because they don't even remember him being there, but he made a lot of money and he was connected to the top of the funding totem pole. That's kinda weird. And so if↗

5:57:50Ian MalcolmWell, JD Vance is a hero to fight the technocracy, no? Wrong. You can't be that clueless. And so what are we gonna do though? And this is very important. We're not going to go and say everything he's doing is therefore bad, quickly call him the devil. No. Let's try and work to refine that message, make him see the clear holes in the JD Vance story, and then see how he reacts to it, right? Because if he does come around and says, "You know, there are some issues," that's a big question mark, and he shares↗

5:58:20Ian MalcolmJust like it was when he discussed Israel, when he noted Benjamin Netanyahu, when he has noted Jewish supremacy. And so I'm gonna continue working, whether it is with him or anybody on this platform, to build bridges, to bring awareness. That's why I gotta give love to Buckley Carlson. That guy has shared a lot of our content, he's co- he's commented on a lot of it, and he's shared a lot of our things, at least it seems, with his brother, right? That is a pipeline for us to enhance our PR campaign, right? We gotta be smart, we gotta be pragmatic, because we face the biggest monster that arguably humanity has ever faced. Think about that for a moment. Right, Christ came in, and the Pharisees were terrible, and they controlled the politicians, obviously 'cause they got em murdered, right? But they had the temple, they had their little books, they had all of that. We live in a society that's downstream from that group controlling literally everything you see. The world that we are in today is worse than Orwell ever could have imagined. It is essentially as dystopian as the Matrix, the only difference, debatably, depending on your worldview, is that we're not in a computer program. But it doesn't matter 'cause every- Everything you look at is controlled by the same source of people, right? And so we are living in an absolute hell scape, but we're gonna make it nirvana, we're gonna make it heaven, whatever is your flavor of a religious bend, just do your part to make it better than it was yesterday, and we're clearly doing that Because JQ Radio, that once upon a time had seven active listeners, is essentially, in some ways, it was an infancy to what we're doing here today, right? We've all grown from that, blossomed from that, these ideas have, have, evolved from that space↗

6:00:00Ian Malcolmright? It wasn't the origin point, but that's why we're gonna talk about and we're gonna revere people like E. Michael Jones. I got differences of opinions with him, right? He doesn't think that we should talk about genetics and race and all those things quite as much, but I don't care! Because he's written incredible books about Jewish supremacy. And twenty five years ago, he wrote a book on the libido and how it was gonna be used in a not so distant future to control everybody with really basic instincts. And now we've got OnlyFans and TikTok brain and porn everywhere. E. Michael Jones would spot On, the guy is brilliant. There's no refuting that, right? So we need to, we need to be thankful and grateful to all those, even Lucas Gage in his own weird way, for whatever role they have played, and then when they clearly are subversive, we say, "You suck," which is why I ratioed him very laughably the other day, right? That's the beauty though, and that's what's great, it doesn't matter if Tucker Carlson does a heel turn, well then we're all gonna say, "Look at this, it's just more go It won't matter, because our voice keeps growing, day after, day after, day after day. Let 'em suppress, let 'em censor, it doesn't matter. The truth is unstoppable, as David Nijay would say, "That which is true has its time, and therefore becomes unstoppable." We are the truth is, we are inevitability. Doesn't matter if you quote Mr. Smith to Neo or, Thanos, right, with the snap. That is what we are doing. We are going to change. The world, little by little, we're gonna pick up our craft across, we're gonna carry it as best we can. We aren't gonna listen to the mother and the father of society, because that's the media, that's the politicians, that's the finance guys, they're all liars. We are going to listen to that which is eternally true, right? Through me, through him, through Christ, through whatever is that higher power. Look for that thing, orient your rudder in that direction. And to quote Jordan Peterson Find your North Star. And as crazy as this sounds, when you see it in the distance, you say, "That's what I want to accomplish." I remember talking about this with Colin, look, three years ago, my North Star is exposing Jewish supremacy. We need to just focus on that. And as we've been on this journey, we've figured out, well, there's characters that aren't great, there's characters that are subversive, there's ideas that aren't so good, there's ways of presenting things that are far better. We've adjusted our tack, and we- Keep walking to that North Star. We keep adjusting as we go because we fail all the time, but at least we're walking towards it, and that's what we've gotta do. Just keep walking, keep going, keep trying, and just do it honestly. Do it as nobly as you can, and we are going to ultimately win. So with that, I wanna bring things back up to Mr. Christopher Woods, to Joanne, to see if they have any final words, final remarks, and we will certainly end this space with Mr. Wood if he's got a prayer for us. So let↗

6:02:57Ian MalcolmSome final words and that prayer to send us off.↗

6:03:01@joann_marieI know, Ian. Excellent, excellent space. This is the first time that it got so wild, and I absolutely loved it. And thank you so much for, for opening today. I know you like taking the weekends off, but I, I really do love your, your sermon spaces. And also, Christopher, I always love when you're here, so thank you so, so much. And your, Ian, your, your hamster rant is one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard. It was, it was amazing. Every time you go into your little stories, I never know where it's going, and I'm like, "Oh my word, where is this gonna go?" And then it comes back with a bang, and I, I absolutely love it. So thank you and no, I love you guys. I'm just so grateful. So that, that's it. And I thought it was Sunday for some reason, but I'm happy it's Saturday. So thank you so much and, and love you all. That's it.↗

6:03:55Speaker 27Alright. Well, my first response, would be, I'm so thankful to be in this space with y'all. It was a pleasurable time today, no doubt about it, and I look forward to my Thursday evenings every Thursday, knowing that I'm gonna be in this space with you guys. It definitely is the highlight of my time. and then I wanted to quick give a little,↗

6:04:17Speaker 27in my encyclopedia real quick, I just wanted to give this little fun fact, the- The active period of, wait,↗

6:04:25Speaker 28right here. Oh, god, I lost it.↗

6:04:31Speaker 28Oh, forgive me. How did I possibly lose it? Pharisee institution, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.↗

6:04:42Speaker 28Oh, no.↗

6:04:46Speaker 28I can't believe this.↗

6:04:47Speaker 27Oh, here it is. Hence the Pharisees fostered the synagogue as an institution of religious worship outside and separate from the temple. The synagogue may thus be considered a Pharisaic institution since the Pharisees developed it, raised it to high eminence, and gave it a central place in Jewish religious life. The active period of Pharisaism The most influential movement in the development of Orthodox Judaism extended well into the second and third centuries after the death of Jesus. The Pharisees preserved and transmitted Judaism through the flexibility they gave to Jewish scriptural interpretation in the face of changing historical circumstances. The efforts they devoted to education also had a seminal importance, importance in subsequent Jewish history after the destruction of The Second Temple and the fall of Jerusalem in seventy AD, it was the synagogue and the school of the Pharisees that continued to function and to promote Judaism in the long centuries following the Diaspora. And that's only a very small section towards the end, there, there's many paragraphs that break down the Pharisees in my old, old encyclopedia I have here. But, I will go ahead and, and give the prayer, and then, Ian can close it if he wishes.↗

6:06:14Ian MalcolmNo, let's, let's end this really quickly and, and 'cause I wanna make sure that we end with the prayer. I just wanted to mention, so again, I wanted to give everybody a massive amount of thanks for being here. It was an absolute, splendor to spend the time with you. Always so, so, so loving and thankful. Joanne, Christopher, Colin, Ryeed, the fours, bass. Thank you guys all so much for being here. Christopher, as always, it is, it's such an honor to be able to,↗

6:06:44Ian MalcolmInteresting one for you coming up on this Thursday. this is one I, I think this was found by Joanne, if I'm not mistaken. It is gonna be on the Mayans, mysticism, and modern media with a guy who goes by the handle East one hundred Outpost. He presents himself as if he's Indiana Jones, and so I am very curious to see if he's gonna come out with a fedora and a bullwhip and he's going to tell us something that I've never heard that I find very interesting and, and believable, or if- We are going to hear about spaceships and aliens and the craziest things that you've ever heard. Either way, I don't care. It should be very interesting. The guy seems extremely humble, he seems, honest and forthright, and I'm really glad, as always, anytime I'm able to lift up a smaller account, smaller handles that might have some interesting things to share with you and me and everybody else on this application. So if you ever would like to, always feel free, send me a message or a messenger. If there's a person you have in mind that↗

6:07:44Ian MalcolmAnyway, I don't care if they have three or three million followers or anything in between. Just wanna make the world better and enjoy that process of learning with all of you. So with that, let's turn it over to Mr. Christopher for that prayer, and we will say, "Sayonara" for the time being. but as always, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, good night, certainly God bless for everything you are, God speed on our adventures ahead, and with that, let's get a little bit of a blessing from God, from Mr. Christopher Wood.↗

6:08:11Speaker 27I'm looking forward to that Indiana Jones and Ian Malcolm space. That'll be interesting. And, and yes, and thank you to all the speakers and Aradh, who was essentially our, honorary co-host, the honorary fourth co-host throughout the time. Thank you Heavenly Father for everything that you do for us. Thank you for watching over us, for guiding us. Please continue to lead us towards your purpose. We know that you created us for a reason and that we exist in this time for a reason. We're not created by accident. We're not here simply Simply by chance, we know that we all have talents, ideas, and abilities, and we ask you, God, that you just guide us towards the purpose in which you've given us. Thank you for the roof over our head, thank you for the roof in our stomach, the roof, the food in our stomachs, thank you for family and friends, in the name of Jesus.↗