DispatchMay 25, 2026·4.5 hours·with @faris4senate_ky

Kentucky Senate Contender @faris4senate_ky

The host and early speakers discuss Elvis Presley's 'Kentucky Rain' and the nostalgia for simpler times.

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  1. 0:00Elvis Presley and NostalgiaThe host and early speakers discuss Elvis Presley's 'Kentucky Rain' and the nostalgia for simpler times.
  2. 1:29Elvis and Michael Jackson ControversiesThe host draws parallels between Elvis Presley's provocative career and Michael Jackson's legal troubles, highlighting media narratives.
  3. 13:12Political Candidacy ChallengesMichael Ferris discusses his recent Senate primary loss and the difficulties of running a grassroots campaign against established money.
  4. 46:00Election Integrity ConcernsFerris raises suspicions about election results, citing unusual vote counts and the impact of endorsements.
  5. 59:30SAVE Act and Voter RollsFerris criticizes the SAVE Act for not addressing voter roll integrity and highlights the ease of fraudulent voting.
  6. 1:10:14Campaign Finance and Media InfluenceFerris details the financial realities of campaigning, emphasizing the need for money to combat media narratives.
  7. 1:35:00Judicial Reform and AccountabilityFerris advocates for judicial reform, arguing for accountability for judges who fail to uphold constitutional law.
  8. 1:48:00Youth in Politics and America FirstThe discussion shifts to the growing involvement of young voters in politics and the rise of America First ideologies.
  9. 2:00:00Personal Background and MotivationMichael Ferris shares his Syrian-Arabic heritage and his motivation for entering politics to address societal problems.
  10. 2:20:00Future of American PoliticsThe host and speakers discuss the potential for a new era in American politics driven by America First principles and a more engaged youth.

The Transcript

@joann_marieI, I'm gonna guess it, and it's gonna be Kentucky Rain, but the, the singer, the singer, I don't know. It, it sounded kind of, I, I don't think it's Elvis. It doesn't have like the, the Elvis thing. I don't know. It is Elvis, is it? It is the one and only, the

Ian Malcolmking.

@joann_marieI didn't know! I'm so proud of me.

Ian MalcolmYes, I'm so proud of you too. The, the king of rock and roll, the one and only Elvis Presley with, Kentucky Rain, which, absolutely spectacular song. And, I, I hope that we're, we're going to be reigned over in terms of this space, in the sense that we will have, Michael Ferris coming through, very excited to speak with him. And I'm hoping that we- We don't have the, the rain as in the tears coming out of our eyes only because, have not heard back, from him. I usually like to try and check in every day with the guests that we're gonna be featuring. And I didn't hear back, from him thus far, but perhaps just running a few minutes behind. and if not, we will, we'll pivot the conversation, and I'm sure we'll have other things that we can certainly talk about. But, while we do walk, or let's see, walk through the Kentucky rain, the versus, and we walk through the updates of the day, Joanne, anything that is, that is top of mind on your end, or anything else that, might be going on in the Twitter

@joann_marieI know, and Ian, thank you so much for hosting and everybody for being here. And guys, please repost this page, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and my girl, please, that I love. She's one of my favorite people in the world. And yeah, thank you so much for being here. And no, I'm, I'm, I'm happy that you chose that song. I, I don't think I've heard it before. Maybe I have, I don't know. But it reminds me of-- well, it doesn't remind

@joann_marieI, when I hear those sounds and like, I don't know, it, it could be so much simpler, like it, it's just a nostalgic thing that I, I wish we, we had now, you know? Like everything is just fast and chaotic now, and it just feels like back then things were simpler and there wasn't all these chaos and, I don't know, like you had time to like enjoy, and it was like wholesome as well. So I'm, I'm happy that, that you chose it and- And I wish we went back to similar times, because I know it's not gonna be the same, but something, something alike. And, yeah, no, thank you. Great choice, Ian.

Ian MalcolmYeah, no, absolutely. The, the king of, rock and roll, Sir Elvis, Presley. that was actually the, the Memphis album, if I'm not mistaken. and for those that haven't seen it, I do highly recommend going back and watching both early, so that's the very young- King, as well as the, the comeback era of his career, there's a very famous live performance that he did with the very, what would you call it, the suave all-leather look, looking like he was the Fonz from Happy Days, Joanne, but, but out there with all the women oohing and aying, and, if nothing else, the man was an incredible performer, entertainer, and, and one of the, in my opinion anyway, one of the most soulful singers, perhaps of all spectacular voice. but I, I see that we do have Bliss and JMO's, hands up, so let's go through, through them as we wait for our guests to, like I said, hopefully, show up. And if not, maybe we'll do a, a sing-along hour of The King, and I'm, I'm certainly, being sarcastic when I suggest that. I don't think anybody wants to hear it, but nonetheless, let's, let's go through some of the hands,

@joann_marieJoanna.

Speaker 1I, just got done at the gym and, and lovely song, Ian, my dad, when he was alive, passed away, when I was four months, four, fourteen months old, but he was a huge fan of Elvis, and actually, I still have his, several of his, of his Elvis albums on vinyl, so I'll have to see if that's one of them that I have. And, you know, what's interesting too, hope you can hear me, I'm driving into a, a different place, I might lose some service here, but

Speaker 1I didn't know this, but if you actually listen and do a deep dive in those lyrics, it's not what you think it's about. That's a time, that's a, that's, that's another space or another time. But I would, I, I would be interested in if you did like a deep dive, as you know, what you were doing with celebrities on the influence of Elvis and, you know, when it comes to the people that we talk about often. I think that would be an interesting space to, to do. Anyway, I just wanted to share that with

Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely, and, and I would love to, if there is a, an expert that's out there on some of the history, the lore, I'd be very curious about the, the latter part of his life, and if everything was the way that it was documented, right? especially going back through history now and, and recognizing, the King of Pop, perhaps, and the untimely death that he had, and perhaps some other hands that might have been involved in that, and, and for what it's worth, and I know

Ian MalcolmWith, with Sam Parker. But the more that I go into the story, and particularly of, Michael Jackson, the, the more plot twists there really are in that, and The Usual Suspects, I mean, the, the first accusations that were made, the family that made the accusation were part of that crew, the lawyer part of that crew, the psycho, the therapist, that was involved and whose testimony was utilized, part of that group, Latoya Jackson, who came out and suggested that, that she believed, the accusations Accusations to be accurate, not only did she go out on air and make that statement, at the behest, prospectively of her, husband who was part of that team, who she later said that beat her into making that statement, but the very fact that she made it while, of all places, in Tel Aviv, it's just like you, you can't make this stuff up. And so there's a lot of plot holes in that one. I'd, I'd be curious if, perhaps with Elvis Presley, you might find some similar Situations, and I, I, I believe there's ac-actually accusations that he might have had, some of that bloodline from that same, same group of people in there. but we could certainly, we could dive into that, and wouldn't it be curious because, you know, I, I, I think the man's absolutely impeccable in terms of, entertainment value, but he was certainly a cultural icon that you could say moved the needle forward in terms of creating some wonderful music, but he also pushed the boundaries of what was provocative at the time Right? And there were obviously, there were tons of pressure, from the, the broadcast networks to essentially film him only from the waist up in what today would be considered extremely mild, right? Nothing really all that provocative by modern standards in any capacity, but back then it was, you know, it was, it was lewd, and, and there were massive protests to try and keep him off the air as a result. So v-very curious, you could probably make the, the statement that, that perhaps he was moving the needle forward in a detrimental fashion, and No different than Cardi B and all these other, Lizzo and, and all the other degeneracy of the day. but again, by modern, modern standards, he was, certainly soft, spoken, and I, I do know that in his lifetime he did a, a, an immense amount of charitable giving, it was something that was a, a massive part of his personal brand. So, I, I'd be curious for the good and the bad of, of the King of Rock and Roll if anybody has, details or an But, let's go to, JMO and check in with

Speaker 2them. Hey guys, we expect to hear Malcolm, that you will host Alessio Nisla from Slovenia. but I would like to ask you, will you be there in tenth of, or ninth of June or not?

Ian MalcolmI'll be, I'll be hosting the, the conversation there or, or, or here, if I can say that, on this digital forum. I, I certainly won't be geographically there if that's what your question is. So,

Speaker 2Joanne will be the main host, yeah?

Ian MalcolmNo, no, I mean, I, I'll be hosting the, the conversation digitally. I'm, I'm just saying that I, I won't be physically located where the interview is, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2Okay, thank you. if I may ask you, if it's not too much, if you don't want to answer, no problem. But so I am also from Slovenia. So,

Speaker 2I mean, if it's too much, you don't need to answer, but may I ask you, where are you from, like your background? Like

Ian Malcolmmy, my background?

Speaker 2Yeah, like, are you, are you like white European, are you Arab, or what are you?

Ian MalcolmWell, she's

@joann_marieAmerican.

Ian MalcolmI'm certainly not the latter, of those two, and I would say that I, I would more align with perhaps the former, but I say perhaps only 'cause I try to keep, a, a somewhat low profile, i-in terms of, of interconnecting my, my persona with my digital rendition.

Speaker 2Yeah, look, I'm not accusing you, like, I don't need to accuse you of nothing, like- We are all, like together, like on some, some way of fighting against the Jews, like all Jewish influence. Let's say that, yeah.

Ian MalcolmI mean, that's one of the big challenges of the day, right? Is, is trying to do this in a way that is, to use that term again, moving the needle, but without taking some of the very real risks, of, of standing up and speaking out against this, this machine, whether it's the loss of economic opportunities, the defamation- of the media. I mean, we were just mentioning the, the King of Pop, Michael Jackson, right, with, what was at the time, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was worth two billion dollars in an era where that was B-beyond, that was incomprehensible amounts of money by, by, the standards of the day, right? And, and even he had, in many ways, his, his profession and his personal life completely destroyed, maybe even his physical life, destroyed by this power structure. And so it's, it's a precarious thing to speak out against, and I try to do so as, as,

Ian Malcolmrighteously as, as I can muster, but I try to detach the real world consequences of that with the digital efforts that I take here.

Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, but like, Joanne Marie is like openly like, she's like half Lebanese or half Mexican. Because of that, I'm saying, you know, if you understand.

Ian MalcolmNo, I understand exactly what you're suggesting, and if you're, hoping to bark up the tree and get, some kind of rendition of me doxing myself, I, I hate to say it, but you're gonna be disappointed.

Speaker 2No, no, it's not about doxing, but just like the, the point of view, if you understand.

Ian MalcolmYeah, I, I mean, I, I have what I would suggest is a, let's think of it as the Western Christian, in particular, to, to be as hyper specific as I feel comfortable, the Western Christian American rendition, and, and just personally speaking, what I, I suppose I do is I try to advocate for a pre-- I think you could almost loosely define it as a pre-Woke era America is probably the, the right way to think about it, which, you know, I certainly can See it has a, a sprinkling of diversity and, and all walks of life, I suppose, but, it was prior to the weaponization of what I would describe as the, the militarization of mass migration and the absolute degradation of culture by design for the explicit purpose of demoralizing the, the Western, in particular the white American Christian man.

Speaker 2Okay. So like, I personally, I think you're not white, but- I'm not accusing you of nothing, like meaning of like it's something better.

Ian MalcolmCan, can I, can I ask what that would be based in?

Speaker 2No, like, like before, like your, like I would say your post before, before like that when you arranged the The co-host with, Aleš Šernec, like, I know history of you, so I have to say, I think you're probably-- So I'm, I'm not saying like nothing like, it's not, not something bad, but like we have meaning of together like anti-Jewish, I have to say, because I'm not antisemitic, I'm anti-Jewish personally. I'm from Slovenia, and I'm, I am anti-Jewish, I openly saying. I, I don't give a fuck. I was also by the court in Slovenia. But like, not only Slovenia, also one other country, but I won't say which one, because it's too much hardcore. But, Slovenia has one of most, one of most hardcore anti-Jewish organizations. But we are small, but we are really hardcore, I have to say. And I hope, ninth of June or tenth of June, anyway, which, which day, because of timeline I'm saying, I hope you will listen it, because it will be something new.

Speaker 2because there is not Slovenisti, there is something like, I, I can't describe it, like it's something like, how they say, Hitler is nothing about to Slovenisti. Hitler is just a little bit, you know, like maybe five, ten percent. Hitler is nothing to Slovenisti, I will say that. So I hope you understand me, because there is no solution, if you understand me, like there is no political solution.

Speaker 2Yeah? I, so I don't want to fed posting, but anyway, but

@joann_marieyeah, don't don't start posting.

Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's

Ian Malcolmkind of, it's kind of, it's kind of strange. You're, you're making, let's say, unsubstantiated accusations against me, which is, I mean, you're free to say whatever you want, I, I advocate for free speech. you're encouraging me to try and tox things about my persona, and now you're fed posting suggesting that there You're doing in here, but being subversive, and I, I'm not gonna make that as an accusation, but it, it certainly feels as though I would be led in that direction, frankly.

Speaker 2Yeah, but tell me, how-- what do you think, how is this political solution? Tell me.

Ian MalcolmHow is there a political solution? Oh, I would say that right now, the mainstream media is desperately attempting to propagandize anybody and everybody that still pays attention to it, while they're trying to rampantly suppress all of their critics, while purchasing any and every platform upon which you can speak out against this group of people, including, of course, TikTok, which only further awakens more people to the reality that something is askew, while they come after voices like- Like mine, which I don't suggest anything remotely kinetic or violent or against the law or anything that, that could even be deemed as hateful, and yet they crack down on anything and everything I do. They clearly meddle with my account and its reach. They throttle any post that gets even a modicum of virality, and, they detach my followers left, right, and center so much that even those that frequently speak in spaces with me, like Ryan Mata, in the course of a single week are detached from following me on three different occasions. In a single week, that happened, right? And so they're, they're obviously very desperate to try and minimize the ability for us to do that which we're doing. And if that's the case, it, it would lead me to believe that they aren't concerned, right? They're, they're not concerned about a violent revolution 'cause they don't advocate for such. I, I, I advocate for peaceful rejection of this system, which would essentially lead me down the path of, let's say, as a PAC with Dr. Michael Recktenwald, who's trying to find solution by only funding candidates that are openly anti-Zionistic, and as a result, I, I do think that there is a, a massive wind of change. This, this group of people are desperate, and you can, you can see that with their, let, let's say flailing to unseat Thomas Massie, right? They're, they're very concerned about this, and so, I'm gonna try as, as best I can to push for a peaceful political rejection of this system, and if those forces refuse to bend, even as millions- The voices stand up and say, "We're done with this system, and we want a political change." Well, then we can have that conversation down the road, and it's very similar to what Eric Orwall and the Return to the Land folks are doing, where they're trying very righteously to go about setting up their own community. We had the pleasure of speaking with him yesterday, and he made the very astute comment that if they shut down his attempts to peacefully disconnect from modernity, then it just reinforces that there is in fact a massive problem, and that we need to find a more- Radical solution and, and in the same vein that he made that statement that he's not gonna pursue that until it becomes mandatory, well, then neither would I. And so I do think there's a peaceful solution. I think people like Michael Ferris, who just joined us, is certainly a, a champion for that, that opportunity. And I'll do everything I can to bring attention to those individuals in, in pursuit of that better tomorrow. and so that's kind of some thoughts on that.

Speaker 2Oh, I would like that there will be peaceful solution, I have to say. I I'm joking. But did you, did you check the Slovenisti like website, like before you...

Ian MalcolmI, I've not.

Speaker 2Okay, so go check slovenisti-punk so dot com sc, sc is for Slovenia. Go check it out. So Slovenisti don't give a fuck about the Jews, like Slovenisti know there is no political solution. The, the only p- the solution is only the like I won't say what, because it's a little fat posting, yeah? If you understand me? so yeah, I hope you understand what I'm saying. So there's- All right,

@joann_mariewell, I'll, I'll check it out, and thank you so much for, for coming up, JMO. And also, guys, please repost this space, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Michael, then I'm so happy that you did get here. And thank you, everybody, so much for being here!

Speaker 2So can, so can I put in the Jumbo, in the Jumbo? No, put it,

@joann_marieput it in the purple pill and I'll check it out, okay? But we're gonna start or, or like space right now. Thank you so much. And, and we'll

Ian Malcolmalso, we'll put the, we'll put the space that we're doing on Slovenia into the purple pill so that everybody can, set a reminder if they haven't. I am curious, to learn about it and always curious to be able to speak about these issues, with anybody

Ian MalcolmAppreciate the, the, the conversation here, especially while we were waiting for Michael. but let's, let's kick this off and, and, Michael, I do feel, I, I maybe not apologetic, but we were, we were introducing the space, with Kentucky Rain from the King of Rock and Roll, of course, Elvis Presley. I thought it'd be a nice little way to kick things off, and, and, and certainly glad to have you here. I, Very, very glad that, that you're able to make it, humbled that you're here. I, I am.

Speaker 2Just one second, please. Do, do you understand what I'm

@joann_mariesaying? Jamie,

Speaker 2Jamie- No, no, no, no, no. We're not gonna- please, please wait your turn. No, we're not gonna do that. Jamie-

@joann_marieJamie,

@faris4senate_kyWell, hello, Ian. Sorry I'm late. I did have some connectivity issues. That is one of, one of my favorite tunes there by Elvis, "Kentucky Rain," and, you know, I used to karaoke that a lot, and, my biological father did as well. He, he was a big fan of Elvis before he passed away. but yeah, sorry about the connectivity issues. I, I did have a, a router that decided it wasn't going to c-cooperate for the first twenty minutes of this thing,

@faris4senate_kyand, I was You guys would stick around, and I'm glad you did. So, thanks for the invite, for everybody here. Thank you for joining. I appreciate you being here. I know that right now I'm not currently a candidate for anything. We did lose our primary on May nineteenth. some kind of crazy stuff going on here in Kentucky, and I think that's pretty much reciprocating us across the state with, with, you know, all the money, you know, just kind of the dark, stupid money that's in, what I like to call retail Politics or, you know, the mass media that buys our elections all across the country,

@faris4senate_kyand of course, I think the biggest, example of that would be the, you know, Kentucky four, which was where Massey lost that race to, you know, a, a Joe Biden basement dweller type individual and then of course, the Senate race wasn't that much better. you had, you know, basically a, current sixth district congressman running, a former attorney general turned,

@faris4senate_kygovernor candidate who lost that race to Andy Beshear, who then, you know, got two terms in this state as a Democrat, interestingly enough, and then, you know, Nate Morris, who, you know, dropped out, took that deal with Trump to, you know, what looks like go be some kind of Extraordinaire in Colombia or whatever to endorse Andy Barr, who was that six district congressman, and, you know, sway that electoral, you know, that election basically the way they wanted it to be. So,

@faris4senate_kyyou know, we took-- it was, it was nominally about a, getting into some numbers here, about a three hundred and thirty thousand vote race turned about four hundred and thirty thousand vote race this time for that Senate race. And idealistically, we were going to, basically, we were, we were shooting for twenty-six percent of thirteen percent. That was about the nominal turnout, and what that would have looked like is about ninety, eighty-five to ninety thousand votes would have took that race. unfortunately, due to the influx of voters And, you know, not only that Senate race, but Kentucky four, you know, that fourth district race itself brought in a hundred and five thousand, votes beyond what was normal for that race. And then of course, if you look at Andy Barr, he ended up getting, something like two hundred and seventy thousand more votes alone than the entire presidential primary in twenty twenty-four, something like two hundred and thirteen thousand more votes by volume From that Republican primary to this Senate primary just two years later. So doesn't make sense to me. seems like there's something going on. I'm not sure how somebody gets more motivated for Andy Barr than they do, you know, a person like Donald Trump during the time that he was running for a second campaign after what happened in twenty twenty.

@faris4senate_kybut there you have it, the numbers are there, that's what they're reporting. we only took eleven thousand of those, which is Two and a half, two point six percent of that vote. we spent about eighty thousand dollars in that campaign, put about, twenty-five thousand miles across the state, that's about three hundred thousand text messages put out, eighty thousand mailers, and then roughly forty thousand door knockers, not to include the festivals we went to, the Lincoln Day dinners, all of those things. So, yeah, it's interesting how you can do all that work for a year, you know, touch close to- let's call it four hundred thousand people across the state, and get less than, a percentage of the total contacted to show up to vote. it's hard to say whether there's legitimacy in, in that or not. It doesn't make sense to me. I mean, surely

@faris4senate_kyyou're not gonna have less than one percent of anything you do in life when you have that much engagement, right? So I don't know at this point whether to trust anything about these elections or not. What I can say is, you know, moving forward, we have a couple options. right now there is a, very good fellow out of Eastern Kentucky, named Charles Martin, who's gonna be running for governor. He's asked me to run with him, after, you know, the primary if he's nominated to be his lieutenant governor. I don't think that's our smartest move but I'm trying to discuss with him what that angle looks like because, look, that's gonna be a crazy race as well. I think we all know James Comer's gonna join in on that,

@faris4senate_kylikely Secretary of State Michael Adams on the Republican side as well, and maybe Massey. We don't even know what he's gonna do at this moment, and I won't run against Massey just simply because of what they've done to him recently, and of course, how good he was to me on, on the trail to, you know, the Senate Campaign where we would meet in his district, time and time again, just by calendar because we were both running campaigns.

@faris4senate_kyand so for us, you know, it looks like the best opportunity is gonna be District Two, and that's gonna be,

@faris4senate_kyit, am I, am I still here with you? Yep.

Ian MalcolmYou are. Yeah.

@faris4senate_kyOkay, I got a message that I'd been booted. That's weird. So, wait, you got a

Ian Malcolmmessage that you were booted from the space?

@faris4senate_kyYeah, it says you have been dropped as a host or a speaker or something.

Ian MalcolmOh, the, the co-host invite. No, no, no, that, that, yeah, that, that makes sense. Okay. Michael, we, we get so many, and I can, I can, well, I've shared them with Joanne so extensively, but every space that I do, every like two or three minutes, X says that it's, trying to reconnect me. So they-- I don

@joann_marieEvery couple of minutes, like it's, it must be a nightmare.

@faris4senate_kyUnderstood. I just caught a glimpse of it as I turned my head. Okay, but thanks for that info. but with that being said, you know, I think that our best way forward is gonna be district two. That's, about nineteen, twenty counties In, Brett Guthrie's district, who's my current congressman. you know, the, the interesting thing about Kentucky is you don't have to live in the district you run for, so we did toy with the idea of maybe kind of avenging Massey there, but, as the law works out, you know, it's not the "sore loser" law that stops us, it's actually another funky law that talks about what party you're filed as, as of January first preceding the regular election that would keep us off the ballot. So we would have Campaign, I don't think that's really a successful path forward. And so then we were able to get in touch with this Jeremy Todd, who I believe is running as a Libertarian, and he's gotten the signatures to be on the ballot, so at least di- you know, District Four will have,

@faris4senate_kyoutside of that Republican and Democrat candidate, they'll have an independent candidate to choose from, if they so choose to, not go with the Trump endorsed gal run. And so- District two, that's, that's kind of more close to that sixty to sixty-eight thousand vote margin. So what we're thinking is if we can, you know, three and a half X or maybe even four X and squeeze that support into the district versus a statewide race You know, maybe there's a possibility we can beat out Guthrie. Now, you know, Guthrie does have a couple million dollars war chest, so, you know, we probably will have to approach this race a little different than my last one. You know, in the Senate campaign, we weren't pushing for donations, we didn't really send out things saying, "Hey, please donate here," and it was more of like, "Hey, we're running for US Senate, here are the issues, here are the solutions we think that those issues require."

@faris4senate_kyand please find out more about us here. So I think we're gonna have to gear this next campaign a little bit closer to what they do, not maybe tagging people as much saying, "Hey, send me money, send me money, send me money," but at least in the messaging, you know, kind of put in there, a reason why it's, it's, you know, behooves them to donate to us because we do have to reach people, and based on, I mean, the numbers Let's just be honest, it looks like a lot of these folks voted for, you know, A, a Trump endorsement, so Trump won that election in the Senate race, and then B, they vote for the TV. So we are gonna have to run ads. I was hoping we could just get away with that by doing, you know, kind of this direct messaging, direct mailer, and then of course, being in the face of people across the state in all of these different counties. And, and look, we didn't get to hit all hundred and twenty of 'em to do that

@faris4senate_kyTo hit, you know, ten counties in a month, and that's just almost not possible, to get that many people together in a hundred and twenty counties in a year, unless you have a massive operation of paid, minions who are really going out and working You know, like it's their job. Look, we had forty-five, fifty volunteers who were doing this of their own free will, on their own time. they were working their own kind of districts. We had, you know, a lot of support in the fourth district, but even in like Hardin County, where I reside, you know, we had a lot of support here, a lot of signs out, a lot of connections made, still somehow only got five hundred and five votes in this county. It just-- those things don't make sense. I mean, I wish I had an Answer for them, but it just looks like we're gonna have to sit down and take a methodical look at all of those counties,

@faris4senate_kysay like in that District two, area where Brett Guthrie is the current congressman, and, you know, just basically ten x, that outreach. I mean, that's the only thing I can think. I don't wanna lose, hope that there's a path to win, you know? but it, you know, if anybody's looking at these numbers, from the outside, you know, they're gonna be very befuddled, they're gonna be very distraught, very taken back, and it, it'll, it'll almost kinda make you,

@faris4senate_kyyou know, make you feel bad in a way that, like, well, why do I even vote? Because there's no sense, right? and I disagree. I think there's still a way. The problem that we had in this race as well is, you know, we couldn't get those large voices, you know, like Tucker, we couldn't get, you know, Sean Ryan to help us out. We couldn't get, well, Ryan Mata, he had finally found us in the last two weeks of our campaign and was, was trying to push us

@faris4senate_kypretty hard there as he was trying to help Massey in District Four, but it was just, it, you know, it was just a moment too late, you know. And so we just, we couldn't get any-- I guess I would call it free media or, you know, mass, mass connections. But also it kind of, it just makes you wonder about the high propen- propensity voter versus, you know, the

@faris4senate_kyI guess online support, you know, does it really bleed over into votes? And I'm telling you right now, it appears that it, it doesn't, because if you look at like Barr and Cameron, I mean, look, Cameron had some pretty decent support online, but Barr's, you know, interactions and engagement and kind of everything that was going on on social media,

@faris4senate_kyWas all negative, and this guy blew the votes out of the water, you know? so you've got to basically, you've got to ten x your, your outreach on, on socials, I think, to even really put a dent in any of the voting, you know?

@faris4senate_kySo yeah, there's 17 counties. I think there's actually more than that. This is, I think this is lying to me, but I believe it's Adair, Barren, Breckin, Ridge, Bullitt, Butler, Daviess, Edmonson, Grayson, Greene, Hancock, Hardin, that's my county, Hart, Larue, McLean, Meade, and Muhlenberg, with Ohio and Warren. And I think there's actually,

@faris4senate_kyparts of Jefferson in there. But it's not, it's not listing. It says, you know, all are parts of nineteen counties in West Central and Western Kentucky, extending from Louisville Metro to the Tennessee border. That, that makes sense. but yeah, we-- So we have to hit those counties hard. We have to look at, really How many voted? Look, we gotta trend the voting, you know, and basically 10x whatever that voting base is, we gotta reach 10 times the amount of people that are gonna vote, even if they're Tier 4s. And I don't know if anyone here is listening understands what Tier 4 is, but, you know, one moment.

@faris4senate_kyWhen you look at,

@faris4senate_kyWhen you look at outreach for a voter base, you know, you have several tiers of voters, four, tier four being, you know, let's call it a, an A plus voter, that's somebody that, rain or shine doesn't miss a primary, they show up every primary, doesn't matter what names on the ballot, they're motivated, no matter what. Those are usually gonna be,

@faris4senate_kyyour, your boomers, you know, sixty-five plus and that, they're, they're just They're glued into the TV, the TV's told 'em when to vote, they show up and they circle in a name, you know, on who knows what factors. I mean, and I say that because if you look at like this guy that was on the ballot, George Washington, you know, his, his-- just to give you like a general idea, he submitted this photo, literally his face painted up just like the Joker used to have a Batman. You know, that was his, you know, website photo, that's what he gave to all the media, that's what the media produced when they did produce anything on him.

@faris4senate_kyand so the guy pulled seven thousand votes. So that means you have seven thousand people in there that are just like, "I don't even care." Y-you know, they're just going in there and, and honestly betraying their country by voting for somebody like that who- Really doesn't have any shot to win, didn't campaign, spent no money, raised no money. You know, here we were, eighty thousand dollars that we spent and raised, and then only got eleven thousand two hundred and some odd votes. So just four thousand more votes than this guy who did nothing but create a website and make a joke out of

@faris4senate_kythe electoral process, you know, so that's, that is disheartening. But, you know, me, I'm not one to get down on anything too easy, and I try to find, you know, it's like, "Fool me once, you know, shame on, on me, but fool me twice, you know, it won't happen." So the idea is to go back and look at all these counties that are required To vote for this, you know, where will, where our name would be on the ballot, and then going with other odd things like, for instance, you know, putting a nickname on there, because think about George Washington that drew seven thousand votes. Well, you know, my, my adoptive mother to this day still calls me Mickey, Mike. So, you know, when you think about putting Michael, quote unquote, Mickey Ferris There's gonna be people that would actually vote for Mickey, and they wouldn't have a clue who I was. That sounds crazy, but when I look at,

@faris4senate_kythis idea that people voted for this George Washington, knowing A, he had no chance to win, B, you know, if you looked into him any at all, you would know he was making a joke of the election process. So there's people that'll just do it, yeah, you know, they'll just vote based on something they see cool there, and they'll let it ride. So there, there's that aspect we can throw at it as well. But I think we're gonna have to raise at least a quarter of a million dollars, which means we've gotta get some outreach, we've gotta use social media for the donation aspect to go and basically reach the actual voters. That's how I'm seeing it,

@faris4senate_kythat's how I feel like is gonna be the path to victory. Not so much relying on the social media for the voter base and engagement there, but in, you know, letting the social media users basically pay to go and buy the votes that you need to win the election. That sounds crazy, but, that's kind of the way I see it. because, you know, you've got to touch, you know, if you want, if you want thirty thousand votes, you know, you gotta touch three X that. So

@faris4senate_kyThat sounds wild, you know, especially without name recognition, that's what you gotta touch, because if you don't have friendly media, you gotta touch not only the voters that'll vote for you, and the voters who probably aren't gonna vote for you, but try to motivate people who aren't normally gonna vote. So let's call those tier three, right? I told you about the tier four. Those are gonna vote, you know, rain, sleet, hail or shine, they're showing up, whatever that primary day is, and they're voting, or maybe they're mail-in balloting, maybe they're early absentee voting. So we gotta motivate the threes. The threes are kind of like, "All right, they did a primary, skipped one, did another one, skipped one, maybe they only do presidential primaries," you know, which would make this next election a little interesting because that would fall in a presidential primary.

@faris4senate_kyThe, the, the weird thing about this next one is you're still gonna have Trump at the helm. Trump's gonna, I think, keep throwing his weight around every chance he get. I can see him, you know, endorsing a Guthrie if Guthrie was to have a challenger, because Guthrie is a, a loyal follower. He does whatever the wind tells him to do at the time to keep his job. So that's another thing we gotta beat, you know?

@faris4senate_kybut, you know, look, I'm open to any ideas in this thing. I came here to, you know, basically say what we did do, what we hope to do, what we, what we're seeing may work, but we're also gonna have a little bit harder time because Some of the support that we would have had nominally is gonna be out of districts, right? So we're, we're asking to do a kind of a short squeeze here on votes and donations. We're asking a smaller area to do You know, ten times more than the larger area did, but maybe it'll give us time to revisit those areas two, three, and four times throughout the election cycle. Maybe that gets us, a little bit more recognition, right? A little more events, a little more people reached there through the personal level.

@faris4senate_kyyou know, maybe then we can hit every voter that votes in those counties plus some vice Shooting for what was required to win. So when I say, you know, what was required to win, this is kind of how I strategized it. I, I kind of went through all the counties and said, okay, out of a hundred and twenty counties, I need at least seven hundred votes to win. There's like seven hundred and thirty-three votes per county to win this race. So that means I could, I could not win any county, but I could still win as long as I got seven hundred and thirty-three votes per county. So that's what I shot for, and I tried

@faris4senate_kyIn all 120 counties at least once, maybe twice, through the text messaging campaign, again, not for donations, but just, hey, how you doing? This is who I am, here's my website, please go check us out, we will be on your ballot kind of thing. but it appears that if you, you know, want help running a race, you have to tell them to donate. I hate to say that, I don't like it, I don't wanna do it.

@faris4senate_kybut it is the nature of the game, you know, I hate asking anybody for money. But what we'll do is in this next one, well, you know, just to go back on that, like, I, I honestly think that any candidate that runs for office should have to have some kind of monetary skin in the game. Like, basically, I don't even think they should be able to raise the first dollar if they're not willing to throw five, you know, ten grand into a race. Put skin in the game, you know, and, and kind of believe in themselves before they go and ask other people to believe in them, you know. But that's just a personal thing. I don't know that that would ever be anything to really push in law. It's just more of like, as a man, I think, you know, look, if I go and, and, and, and, send a resume in for a job, you know, I, I go in and stand up for what I said was on the paper. I said, "This is me," and

@faris4senate_kyInstead of going in and saying, "Hey, well, write me a check first, then I'll show you what I can do once you hire me," you know?

Ian MalcolmBut, and Michael, out of curiosity, when it comes to elections like the one that you ran, what, portion of the donor class that you have behind you is small individuals that are trying to contribute versus ultra wealthy individuals versus, I don't know, corporations or things of that nature? What does the breakdown look like?

@faris4senate_kyYeah, so if we go to-- I'm gonna have to go to this app. Give me one second oh, what is this thing? I think it was called Integrity Index. Let me see if I can pull that up on my computer so that I'm not messing around on,

@faris4senate_kymy phone while I'm trying to speak with you here and it doesn't cut you around. okay, so if I type in, you know, an integrity index, Michael Farris, it's gonna pull me up Michael James Farris, Kentucky Senate Republican. Showing, because we haven't filed our last FEC report, that we raised sixty-one thousand five hundred and thirty. So when I file this next one, it'll say somewhere around eighty-ish,

@faris4senate_kyraised and spent. So eighty-nine percent of that in-state, Kentucky, and eleven percent of it out of the state. So with that being said, you know, that just means that, you know, other people donate to this race. It's a completely legal thing, obviously, in federal races, and, So you're talking from California, nine hundred and ninety-nine bucks, Florida, nine hundred and sixty-nine total,

@faris4senate_kyAlabama, five hundred and fifteen total, Massachusetts, five hundred total. Massachusetts was a single donor, five hundred dollars. You know, in Kentucky, that's where the rest of that money was raised. And if I had to guess, the average donation would probably be somewhere around seventy-five bucks. you know, we did get one, max contribution from,

@faris4senate_kyBavarian Waite out of Northern Kentucky, that was, the Brighamans up there. They're a big family dynasty, one of 'em's a, a circuit court judge there. very much America First people, very Catholic people, very anti, you know, spilling money into Israel, foreign aid type people. so, you know, they were willing to throw in the max contribution. And of course, you know, one of the, one of the guys that- And, and what is

Ian Malcolmthat number for, for those not familiar? The max donation? Yes.

@faris4senate_kyin the federal races, it's thirty-five hundred dollars.

Ian MalcolmUnderstood. So that's, that's not, state specific, there?

@faris4senate_kyI don't think so. The FEC dictates that, and based on US-- Then federally, sorry, I've got a little bit of a code from allergies out here. We've been doing some yard work. but federally, thirty-five hundred dollars, I believe that's pretty well, you know, con-- Nationwide, based on the FEC rule book, and that same rule book is what every federal candidate must read. but, you know, again, I was my own treasurer, I was my own campaign manager,

@faris4senate_kybut, but just thinking about this Max donation, right? This, this thing with PAC is a problem because, you know, we did take money from Azipac, that's the anti-Zionist PAC, they gave us a thousand bucks and then endorsed us. that's the Michael Rechtinwald, PAC there, and I'm sure you've, spoke to those, fellows. Yeah, we,

Ian Malcolmwe love Dr. Rechtinwald in here.

@faris4senate_kyYeah, and he just got out of surgery, God bless him. I think he had a bypass or heart surgery. Anyway, you know, they, they donated a thousand bucks to us, so, you know, that gets us about seven hundred and fifty text. I mean, that's just, it's eight hundred text, something like that. That's just the name of the game. So that helps. Now, the thing about independent, and when

Ian Malcolmyou're saying eight hundred texts, just, just to follow, so the thousand dollars, and, and I'm, I'm very curious about the, the mechanization of this, right? For, for those listening that might have, interest in kind of following in your footsteps. So, Dr. Eckenwald and, and at, through Asapac, I should probably specify, they contribute a thousand dollars to your campaign, you said that buys about eight hundred texts. I, I assume that you're referring to text messaging and trying to get the

Ian MalcolmYou're referring to?

@faris4senate_kyYep, exactly. So they give me a thousand dollars to do what I wish with that money, and for me, I use their money for, you know, to text people and say, "Hey, my name's Michael James Ferris, I'm running for US Senate to represent you in Kentucky. Here's my website, here's my agenda, here are my solutions to the problems with that agenda," and, that's what that money went for.

@faris4senate_kyYou know, but outside of that, the rest of the money, you know, went to, you know, people want hats, they want shirts, they want palm cards, they want little keychains or pins or, you know, you gotta pay for dinners to get into youth, you know, and, and actually, technically,

Ian Malcolmand it's almost, I'm, I'm, that's just wild to me. It's, it's, it's almost a dollar and a, a dollar and a quarter per text message. I feel like you from your mobile phone could, could fire To try and get a, a list of, of prospective people to message that to, or what is that?

@faris4senate_kyHold, hold on a second, let me make sure I gave you the right number. What do, let's see, 'cause that sounds a little bit, a little bit high. I wanna say it was more like, five cents a text, but let me make sure. That would, that would obviously be, you know, quadruple what they spent. Give me one second here.

@faris4senate_kyso I mean, you, you could-- here's the thing about texting yourself, and I did this. So one day I sat down just to see, how much, how many people I could text on my own all day in an eight-hour span, right? And I'll tell you what's interesting is Let me, let me do some math here.

Ian MalcolmNo, I'm, I'm actually

@faris4senate_kyvery curious for, for how this

Ian Malcolmall works and if the cell carriers came after you or something. So, so, so you're,

@faris4senate_kyyou're right. So I chose the wrong number. A thousand texts at eight cents is twelve thousand five hundred people. if I reduce that, or if, if I extend that to like twelve cents, if you throw in like a picture, if you throw in a small video, right? it goes up a little bit more. So let me see, if you do Ten cents, that's ten thousand people. So I probably meant to say eight thousand, 'cause we had some pretty good text messages that went out that had some media on 'em, so they could have been up towards that fifteen, twenty cents a message. So, not eight hundred, eight thousand.

@faris4senate_kyso that would-- that's how many that would reach for a thousand bucks, right? Now, that's only one time. If you wanna hit those people again, it's the same price again, right? Because idealistically on trend data You know, the, the theory is that for any one person to vote for you who's never shook your hand and never met you, you have to be in their face at least three times, right? That's, that's kinda like the science behind it, that's what these guys in the, the, you know, kinda outreach world tell you. And look, we didn't go with like this big text messaging folk, like we went to somebody who was a down home guy who does this, who's done other, you know, people that we know their campaigns in the past, and he treated us really well. And, you know, actually advised us well, gave us some, some discounts here and there for our money,

@faris4senate_kybut yeah, so back to your answer about the money for the text, yes, basically someone sends out a text on your behalf as a company, they have to go get basically a token, and that token, it, it's, it's all, it's ridiculous, man. So let me tell you about the situation where I sat down and texted eight hundred people in a day, you know? And When I did, yeah, I have an iPhone, I use AT&T,

@faris4senate_kywhen I did that, the next day,

@faris4senate_kyApple, or sorry, AT&T delisted my number from Apple, and I couldn't use iMessage. So I tried again the next day to send messages You know, because I'm basically copying and pasting this thing that I make, right? I made this whole draft, I'm copying and pasting new numbers off of these voter roll numbers into the phone. Well, I did that, they, they delisted my number from Apple,

@faris4senate_kyand so I'm, I'm texting my wife, she's not getting the message, you know, she's trying to text me, I'm not getting her message, like, what is going on? And it's green, you know, my messages have like a blue bubble versus a green bubble, whatever. And it's going through green, but it's not actually going through. So I'm like, "What's going on? " Well, I called AT&T, they said there was no problem. They said, "No, everything is fine. It all looks good. Everything's working. " And they said, "Well, you're gonna have to call Apple because this seems like a device issue. " So okay, so I'd do a hard reset, a soft reset, all the things you'd do to an iPhone that's acting up. Finally get a hold of Apple support, and they say, "Oh, yeah, your number isn't, you know, it's been pulled from our iMessaging, data, and so that's why none of your iMessaging works." So I explained to them what I did, and they said, "Oh, yeah, that would absolutely do it. You, you know, you can't do that." So there, there they are telling you you can't use a phone that you pay for, service you pay for monthly to text whoever you want on your phone, or they will completely delist you

@faris4senate_kyProducts that you paid for. This thing is meant to drain you of every penny you can collect, to reach people. And so it didn't just happen to me, it happened to supporters that done the same thing. They were having problems with their phone. So trying to bypass the cost of text messaging You know, I don't know what the limit is a day. I don't know if you can text two hundred people, you know, ten every hour, you know, if it's a hundred and fifty people, you know, five every hour. What's the limit that they don't look at your phone and go, "Okay,

@faris4senate_kywe've got to shut this line off because he's reaching people for free," right? And it's gotta be automated, I would, I would imagine. I just didn't look much into it. I just know after I'd done it, I thought, There's no way I'm gonna do that again because I can't have problems with my phone. I use it for everything, I use it for banking, for calendar, for, you know, anything you would look-- use a smart device for, I use it for all that, invoicing for my business, everything. So,

@faris4senate_kyI just couldn't, I couldn't lose the ability to use my phone as needed. to live my regular life while I'm running for US Senate. So, yeah, let's say eight to twelve thousand texts go out for a thousand bucks, right? And so beyond that, is this idea that you have to have that token, it's gotta be, you gotta get that from the carrier.

@faris4senate_kyAll these other things gotta be put in the text message, you know, about messaging. There needs to, there has to be links to unsubscribe. Like so, that's the thing, sending just my text message to another person that lives in the state and saying, "Hey, your number's public record, I got it off the voter rolls, I'm texting you, I'm running for senate."

@faris4senate_kyYou know, basically I sent eight hundred illegal text messages, but we're not gonna say anything about that. but you know what I mean? That's, that's what I'm telling you. It's like, it's not legal to do what I did. And, and, you know, running a senate campaign on your own, it's a product of-- it is what it is. I mean, I'm gonna tell you right now, there's, there's a possibility, a good possibility, I get fined by the FEC because there's so many rules, so many little laws

@faris4senate_kyyou, you can't, I mean, unless you hire somebody that goes to school in, you know, running elections or being a campaign manager, like, and paying them a hundred grand for that year to run your campaign with you you, you have to just, you have to go out and just try it, man. That's all you can do. And so you gotta be willing to eat that fine if it comes to your door. I mean, look, I respond to all the emails from the FEC. They ask for-- they send you what they call these requests for dif- additional information, you send it in. You know, most of the time they say, "Oh, okay, that makes sense. You know, error on our side or, you know, you entered it wrong when it should have been this way You know, misinterpreting whatever, because look, this thing isn't meant for the common man or woman to go in and even find out how to get your name on the ballot, Ian, and, and listeners. I mean, this thing wasn't meant To really aid you in running for the, any office to, to represent your people. This is all a grift, man. It's all one hundred percent built to work against, the layman in this country, and it is to deter you, because it's fear. It's like, well, you have to follow all these rules, and if not, you're gonna get this, fine, or we're gonna come and, whatever. Okay, well, try me. You, you've already done enough.

@faris4senate_kyHold on a second.

Ian MalcolmWhile we wait for Michael, to learn the ins and outs of, of these campaign rules and the financing options, and Michael, what it makes it sound like is that the machine is set up specifically to ensure that the traditionally financed by, owned by, and in the subservience of the elite class that is overrepresented by this one group of- Of people and their interests that, that pretty much everybody is boxed out, from the get-go.

@faris4senate_kyOh, absolutely, and I mean, look, if you, like, look, they have the, they have this, you know, guide on FEC, supposed to teach you how to do all this stuff, how to use their stupid little, Worse, you know, less than Microsoft Excel sheet. I could build an Excel sheet that would track my donations better than the system the FEC uses, and it would be a hundred times more accurate.

@faris4senate_kybut look, this thing is, it's outdated. It looks like it's on the very first Mac computer you ever built, the system that you're filing this stuff on. I mean, the images and icons are like- It, it's literally the first Macintosh computer type icons with the, you know, the little apples and the printers and the carrots and the pins and, and, and there's no explanation behind them. It's just like Icons, you know, there, there's not really a, hey, step one, you know, it's not really a step-by-step when you go into the system to file your,

@faris4senate_kywell, to do your treasury, you know, you know, file all your donations and your expenditures and things like that. It's just like these little pictures, and you would think that would be self-explanatory, but it's not. Like, the pen might mean You know, something like, other than writing something down, it's just so silly how they built the system to be so under graded and so un-under elementary, like it's, you almost have to be not smart to understand it. That's how s- really stupid the system is, if that makes any sense. you can't have any lick of common sense running through it. You've got to just delete everything you know about being,

@faris4senate_kywhat would be natural in filing a report on anything and just undo all that to file these reports, man. It is the stupidest thing. So yes, you're right, it is built specifically to, deter every layman, and, and I don't say that like against women, layman, if you know what that means, is just like common folk. So It's built against the layman, a hundred percent. I, it's meant to where like, you run for office, you have a treasurer, you have a campaign manager, you have to raise enough money to support that machine,

@faris4senate_kyand although we did it, and it appears we weren't successful at it, I mean, we were actually, I guess, because, look, we took third place, out of all twelve names listed on the ballot. And we took twelfth, a third place by four thousand votes to a very unique name like George Washington, right? I mean, that sounds crazy, but if you, if you wrap your head around that tier four, what I call a high propensity voter, somebody who votes for their television, that means that, you know, even though there are,

@faris4senate_kylet's just say thirty thousand protest votes out there Every race, and that's pretty well average, like in a race where you have three hundred thousand people that are gonna vote, ten percent of that is always gonna be a protest vote, right? So we got, we got basically out of thirty thousand, right? Yeah, we only got two per cent, two point six percent of the overall vote, but of the people who are fed up with every candidate they put on the ballot that goes on TV

@faris4senate_kyWe got thirty-three percent of that protest vote, so really, if you look at it that way, we did well. I mean, you know, we got thirty-three percent of the protest vote, and we just didn't reach enough people, is what it looks like. Now, we were always gonna have people just like any other candidate who just absolutely don't like you. I mean Let's look at the hundred percent like Israel worshipers. Look, I took money from Azapac, they-- I got hit through the campaign by seven or eight people religiously on almost every post. You know, Jew hater. Okay, yeah, whatever, you can call me what you like. But it wasn't that many people, so it makes me wonder,

@faris4senate_kyyou know, did those, were those seven people able to even affect more than seventy people? Let's call it ten person per, you know, anti- Ferris people. I don't think that they even reached ten people, because it's just not a thing, right? And if they did, seven of them had to have been their closest relatives, right? So let's say that they lost the seventy votes, that's nothing in the grand scheme of things. So the idea is you have to raise money.

@faris4senate_kyI was hoping in this race, with as broken as it was gonna be Here's what screwed us in, I'll tell you straight up, it was Donald Trump and it was Nate Morris. because when Trump endorsed Barr, that automatically put every single MAGA Fox News'er in Barr's corner, right? Then, okay, what do we got left? Of the rest of the people that would be hanging around, our campaign would have been more similar to Nate Morris than any other campaign. We were the anti-establishment candidate, we were the anti-Mitch McConnell candidate, but we didn't have the money that Nate had, so it was like, okay, Nate drops out. If that was Lonesome Dove, you know, standing on its own face, and it was done in a manner where he dropped out before the ballots were printed, there's a chance we coulda got forty thousand votes, easy, right? Let's just say. But so we could have quadrupled our, our outreach because of what Nate Morris did with his money, right? With outreach. He spent, you know, five million dollars reaching people on TV, YouTube, texting, mailers, things like that. So there's a possibility that those anti-McConnellites,

@faris4senate_kybut still kind of MAGA people, would have voted for us. Here's the problem Nate Morris drops out, takes this deal with Trump, and then endorses the guy he's been bashing for nine months, called Andy Barr. I mean, saying like, "This is the worst guy in, in Kentucky political history," he's been saying for nine months on television in my state, my commonwealth, to my people, that Andy Barr is the worst of all the candidates, is what he's telling everybody on TV. And nine months later, after the ballots are printed, which I think should be illegal You know, you shouldn't be able to drop out of a race once the ballot's printed. You're either dying or dead if your name comes off that ballot at that point, so or if you drop out, because it's just, like, man, that is, it's, it's election interference. This guy, like I said, look at how much money he spent, how many people he reached,

@faris4senate_kyand to turn around and endorse his most unfavored opponent To, you know, for lack of better terms, lick Trump's ass, right? To get this position. So then, there goes any vote that I could get based on authenticity of ideals, anti-McConnell, anti-establishment, you know, actual-

@faris4senate_kyRunning on, running on impeaching judges, running on actual election integrity, fiscal responsibility, you know, free markets, you know, better health care through HSAs, and like a smaller, you know, more limited government, right? And then cutting the fraud, waste, and abuse, all those things we want as Americans and as Kentuckians, running on that platform saying how it can be done.

@faris4senate_kyWell? Those people that were Nate Moore supporters, on its face, if he just dropped out clean and said, "Hey, I'm, I'm dropping out," I can't imagine the number of votes we could have got. There's a possibility we could have got a close, very close to Daniel Cameron second. I don't know, it's hard to say what that looks like, but I can tell you what doesn't help

@faris4senate_kyis these people who vote for the TV, you know, but have this You know, anti-establishment leaning, and they're willing to vote for a guy like Nate because seventy percent of the state, you know, polls that they're done with McConnell, right? Knowing Andy Barr or, or Cameron are gonna be Mitch two point o. So you have most, you know, most of the voter base who's in that Tier four voter base or that Boomer base are saying, "Well, I can't vote for Cameron because Cameron lost his statewide governor race to a Democrat. We can't, we can't put our eggs in that basket. We're a fear to that, right?" And that was the sentiment across the state, but he still pulled one hundred and forty-four thousand votes. Now,

@faris4senate_kylet me sidebar with Cameron because here's what's interesting about Cameron. The last three statewide races he was in He got the same exact number of votes within a ten thousand vote margin. So he ran a statewide attorney general race, where he got roughly a hundred and thirty-four thousand votes, right? He won that race. That office is a little different, obviously, than a senate or a governor. You know, people don't take those as serious, but they want a Republican there, right? They want a strong Republican. Okay, so they chose Daniel Cameron out of that batch. He gets one hundred and thirty-four thousand votes, he wins that primary, then wins the general, becomes the attorney general. Now, he spends four years as the AG,

@faris4senate_kyreally doesn't do much during COVID until the, the citizens file pro se lawsuits against him in the office to push him to fix the Democrat governor's overreach from COVID, right? And then he runs, a statewide governor race on the idea that Well, now he's gonna hold Andy Beshear accountable. He's gonna hold this Democrat governor accountable. He's gonna kick him out of office because he closed the churches down, had police arresting us at churches in the state during COVID. You know, he's doing this, you know, trying to fund sex changes, he's trying to do all this, you know,

@faris4senate_kyGeneral Assembly funding from within the state, you know, basically fraud, waste, and abuse with that money, X, Y, and Z through the governor's office, right? So Cameron runs a governor's race statewide. Pulls one hundred and forty thousand votes, wins that primary, goes on to the general, loses to Andy Beshear by seventy thousand votes. Now, that vote metric is a whole different number, but let's look at primary. When I say he wins within a ten thousand vote margin, I'm talking about a primary race. So, one can say there's consistency there, right? Same guy, different offices, but about the same primary poll voter base. That makes sense. Well, let's look at Andy Barr. So let me pull up something here, and this is what's interesting. Let's look at Andy Barr,

@faris4senate_kySixth District,

@faris4senate_kyprimary. Let's do a 2024, Andy Barr. Let's see what he got.

@faris4senate_kyAll right, so Andy Barr in the primary for twenty twenty-four, okay, he pulls sixty-three percent of those votes. Randy Cravens, oh wait, that's the general, give me one second. That was the, that was the regular election, so that makes sense. So let's go to Six District Election twenty twenty-four. Let's look at the primary.

@faris4senate_kyOkay. So, it's loading. Give me a second. And this is what I wanna make sense, because the numbers, let's see, May, May 21, 2024, 6th Congressional Dist—district, Andy Barr wins his district seat. Let's see.

@faris4senate_kyTrying to give you accurate numbers here so we can compare.

@faris4senate_kyOkay, so actually, he didn't have a primary challenger in '24, so let me go back to '22. let's do this.

@faris4senate_kyAlright, let's do this. 'Cause he pulled two hundred twenty-thousand, so alright, let's, let's do this for reference. He pulled two hundred twenty-two thousand votes in a general, okay? General is a much different race. You're talking, this thing explodes four X from the primary to the general, because now it's the Republican versus the Democrat, right? And I'm pulling these numbers up because I think they're worth noting.

Ian MalcolmAnd, and that was twenty twenty-two, you said, so-- Twenty

@faris4senate_kytwenty-two.

Ian MalcolmThat was

@faris4senate_kya non-presidential midterm

Ian Malcolmoff presidential election. No, no, no, it was a

@faris4senate_kytwenty, it was a twenty-four. So twenty-four general election. Oh, twenty-four, okay. Trump, Trump's on the ballot, so let's look at a Andy Barr twenty twenty-two, primary election results, okay? I should have had this stuff pulled up, but I just really didn't think I was gonna get this far into it without somebody having a whole lot more questions. All right, no, I, and I

Ian Malcolmappreciate what you want, Michael, because again, I think for a lot of people, this is really interesting to understand what it looks like to be on the ground on your side trying to understand how it works. Well, I had to, I had to

@faris4senate_kylearn all this stuff myself, man. This was all self-research, self-taught, like, okay, where do these numbers exist? How

@faris4senate_kyFor, you know, less than what they're spending, right? So, alright, Sixth District, twenty twenty-two, he has a, a primary challenger, okay? Derek Pettis, Republican, twenty twenty-two, pulls twelve point two percent of the vote, sixty-five hundred people. Andy Barr in a primary pulls forty-seven thousand six hundred fifty-nine, eighty-seven percent of the vote in the Sixth District. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty 18 counties in whole, okay?

@faris4senate_kyNow, that's twenty twenty-two, it's off, it's off election. But here's the thing, this is a sixth district congressman. This guy didn't have statewide name recognition until he was running for US Senate. So when you look at metrics like money, statewide name recognition, right, prior experience, all these things None of these candidates had, other than Cameron, statewide name recognition. Barr wasn't known statewide, right? So,

@faris4senate_kydoes- One second.

@faris4senate_kyI was spreading straw and it got to my allergies. Good. Okay, so look here. Does Trump have the power?

@faris4senate_kyTo take a guy who gets forty, let's just call it fifty thousand votes, and I'm rounding way up three thousand on his district, take a guy who gets fifty thousand votes, can he six x that in a Senate race? You know, does Trump really have that power or is this fraudulent? I mean, you have to ask yourself these things, guys, because

@faris4senate_kyI mean, it just doesn't make sense. And I don't know what other... Oh, you know what? I can pull up. Here's another interesting metric. I'll pull this up right now. So Rand Paul's 2024, this is interesting, because this is what actually gave me the,

@faris4senate_kythis is what gave me the, the idea that, okay, seven hundred votes per county, I'm gonna show you, Rand Paul.

@faris4senate_kywe'll do Senate primary election, 2020. Let's do the presidential race, okay? Let's do '24 and then let's compare that to, say, '22. All right? So I'm gonna pull this up and we're gonna neck and neck this real quick, and we're gonna watch, see what these numbers do, okay? 'Cause this is, this is interesting to me. So here's '24. Let's go back to 2022.

@faris4senate_kyPull that up, and let's look at these, these numbers, okay?

@faris4senate_kylet's see. Boom. Okay, there's that number, perfect. Let's go to the '22 version, and let's compare these numbers. Okay. So, 2022, listen to this number. 2022 non-presidential race primary. Rand Paul, there's him and one, two, three, four, five additional candidates on the ballot, okay? So you have a semi-watered-down ballot. I'm gonna give you the vote total. Vote total is three hundred eighty-five thousand six hundred ninety-eight votes total for all six candidates. Let's go to twenty-four. Presidential race.

@joann_marieMichael, and it wouldn't it be easier to hire someone? Like, I know it's expensive, I don't know how much, but so that you focused all your energy in like meeting people and like, you know, doing all the, s-stuff so that you didn't do all of this yourself.

@faris4senate_kyNo. Well, of course, of course, of course it would, but somebody like that, this is gonna cost me eighty to one hundred and twenty grand a year. I've already got employees that make that, that I gotta feed them, and I can't afford to pay another employee that's not actually making me any money. You see what I'm saying? And,

Ian Malcolmand Michael, out of curiosity, the, the total that, that you were able to raise for your campaign, I'm curious if it's at roughly a hundred thousand dollars per staffer that you have. What was that, that total like

@faris4senate_kyOkay, hold on a second. Say that again.

Ian MalcolmThe, if it's $100,000 roughly per staffer, if I heard your, your numbers correctly there, I'm, I'm curious what you-

@faris4senate_kyWell, yeah, that's, that's gonna be roughly a campaign manager salary. Now, a treasurer, maybe you get one for fifty, sixty thousand, right?

Ian MalcolmOkay, so at $160 for the first two people, let's, let's just throw on a, a handful of others and, and suppose that you're gonna land somewhere between $150 and $250,000 for a, a small team helping out in your campaign. how many total dollars were you able to raise, across the entirety of your campaign?

@faris4senate_kyOh, it's about seventy thousand.

Ian MalcolmSo se- and I'm just, I'm thinking through this. So seventy thousand, so you're now working and operating the system where you have to understand, I mean, you might as well be trying to go into a courtroom, right? Where you need to know all the jargon, all the, the, the booby traps and pitfalls of the system.

@faris4senate_kyOh, and I've done, I've done, I've done that as well. I've, I've had, I've filed several pro se litig- litigations. but, Like, we've gotta be able to try to do this. I understand what you're getting at.

Ian Malcolmwell, I'm, I'm actually just trying to think through roughly the, the numbers that you would need to, to build a small team. And what might be reasonable to expect that people are able to raise, and that's obviously, I mean, there's so many variables on that, right? But, I mean, for example, with, with Dan Bilzerian, he might be able to tap into some very deep pockets, but somebody like yourself or Casey Puch, you know, that has to bootstrap a lot of this, o-obviously that, that should be a major consideration for anybody considering throwing their, their hat into the ring, right?

@faris4senate_kyOh, yeah. I mean, look, unless you have a lot of

@faris4senate_kyyou're gonna have to have a lot of money to even get a hundred votes. I'm just telling you, like, that's just the, that's the, that's the nuts of it, right? So let me give you the totals from I have to go back to sixteen on Rand Paul, 'cause they're a Senate, they're six years, tiered, three different tiers. So sixteen to twenty-two Rand Paul. This is interesting. Hundred and ninety-nine thousand total votes in the primary in twenty-sixteen. That's a, that's an election year, and that's a presidential year with Trump on the ballot, right? But not a lot of energy in sixteen. I mean, there, there is for Trump, but not like post twenty-twenty election. 2024 ran Paul, that total is 385. So it went up basically 185,000 votes, okay? That's a big swing. Now, let's look at the, the 2024. And I wanna focus specifically on this woman named Val Frederick, okay?

@faris4senate_kyVal Frederick ran against Rand Paul with four other names on the ballot, okay? She drew three point six percent of the vote, fourteen thousand votes she took from Rand Paul in the twenty twenty-four Republican primary, sorry, twenty twenty-two Republican primary. She took fourteen thousand votes from Rand Paul, didn't campaign at all. Now, let's go to,

@faris4senate_kythis twenty twenty Sixth Senate race, and watch this, this is interesting.

@faris4senate_kySame woman, right? Val Frederick. Let's go to this, and these numbers are gonna be a little bit, let me see, because I haven't totaled all these up, I don't think. Let me see here. Alright, we'll go to Kentucky. There we go. So let's see these numbers.

@faris4senate_kyI mean, bro, like even on this site, they got me listed as fifth, and I got more votes than any other people listed above me other than Andy Bardin or Cam. It's just crazy what they do. Let me go get these numbers though. Hold on a second.

@faris4senate_kyAlright, because this is, this is gonna kind of blow you away, man. It's crazy, it's crazy.

@faris4senate_kyKentucky, sorry guys, it's, sometimes these sites aren't No, and it, it's, it, this

Ian Malcolmis, this is very interesting. The, the detail is fascinating 'cause it's, it's kind of seeing behind the curtains of the, the plays or the, the ballets that Joanne would have been involved in back in the day.

@faris4senate_kyRight, exactly. All right, let me go one second. We'll get the Sugar Plum

Ian MalcolmFairy's, little theme song there, Joanne, for ya. Dun

@joann_mariedun dun dun dun dun. I- That's

@faris4senate_kyfunny. Alright, let me go to the actual site here, because that's gonna be the most accurate now that everything's reported in.

@faris4senate_kyalright, boom, right here. Same woman, this Val Frederick, right, that I told you in 2022, runs against Rand Paul in this Senate campaign. She doesn't campaign. Listen, I'm telling you. Fourteen thousand votes she took from Rand Paul, five other candidates in the field, three point six percent of the vote. This election, same woman on the ballot, six years later, right? Sorry, four years later, the different tier of the Senate, because, you know, if you understand the US Senate, there's US senators replaced every two years on a six-year tier Split three ways among the US Senate body. Does that make sense?

Ian MalcolmIt does.

@faris4senate_kySo, so Rand Paul gets replaced or, or, or goes up for election in '28, where, you know, Mitch was in '26, and then, you know, there's ano- another body as well that'll be done in '2030. Does that make sense? But Rand and, and, and Mitch are two years apart. So Rand Paul, twenty-two, Val Freddrick runs, gets second place, fourteen thousand votes. Same woman, same position, four years later, the same woman gets five thousand,

@faris4senate_kytwo hundred sixty-seven votes. So how did this woman lose?

@faris4senate_kyI mean What is that? Nine thousand votes?

@faris4senate_kyIn four years? I mean, it makes you wonder, I mean, she took one, two, three, fifth place, where she took in this other one, second place. So that tells me That there is on average at least thirty thousand protest votes that take place in a US Senate campaign, right? Okay? Because right under Val Frederick is a guy who got three point five percent of the vote in twenty twenty-two, thirteen thousand.

@faris4senate_kySo there's twenty-seven thousand right there. The next guy, two point six percent of the vote, ten thousand. That's thirty-seven thousand votes, okay? Next one, two point five percent, nine thousand, then a one point four at fifty-five hundred and thirty-eight, that finishes the race. So twenty-seven, thirty-seven, forty-seven,

@faris4senate_kybasically fifty-two thousand people protest voted,

@faris4senate_kyunless, like Paul Hamilton was the guy who did what Mike Farris did, right? I don't know Paul. But say Paul Hamilton did what Mike Farris did, he actually campaigned, he actually raised money, he actually went across the state all year long, sent texts, sent mailers, you know, had a website, and maybe he's the one that drew third place, and she just had a funky name everybody liked, you know? What, what, the thing is, how do you make sense of a woman

@faris4senate_kyruns in '22, gains three point six percent of the vote, pulls fourteen thousand votes in twenty twenty-two? Four years later, can't pull even seven thousand close to that number. Same name, no, there's no difference. Val Frederick, you know, same woman, pulls five thousand two hundred and sixty-seven votes, seven thousand votes less. Did all those go to George Washington, who got seven thousand one hundred and ninety votes? You know? Like, it doesn't make sense, man. And I'm not gonna beat myself, self up over that, but what I wanna say is,

@faris4senate_kyyou know, there's an upward trend. If we look at, again, if we look at this Rand Paul twenty-two race in the primary, a total of three hundred and eighty-five thousand votes, the twenty-six race, a total of one hundred and ninety-nine thousand. And maybe these numbers are off, but that's 185,000, 186,000 more people that voted in that Senate primary from 16 to 22. So you have a higher turnout in a non-presidential year. How does that make sense for a primary?

@faris4senate_kyWhat motivates-- and, and then that's the question. What motivates 185,000 people to show up?

@faris4senate_kyUnless In 2022, there was a large part of the state hiring local candidates that brought these people to the polls, right? So

@faris4senate_kymaybe that's the answer. Maybe there was a new fiscal court judge running, some magistrates running, a sheriff, a jailer, right? In those years. And that's what drew these people to the polls, and they just happened to circle Rand Paul 'cause they'd seen the name on TV, right?

@faris4senate_kyBecause I, I mean, I highly doubt-- and look, I don't mind Rand Paul. Yeah, he didn't work for me when I asked him to, but, you know, for the most part, Rand Paul does pretty good, but I can't see that three hundred and thirty-three thousand people like the guy. I just, I don't. I mean, those people bubbled that in, they, you know, some of them held their nose, probably a large majority of them held their nose and said, "Yeah, I remember seeing his face on the TV, I don't know him, but I'm gonna just vote for him anyway."

@faris4senate_kyThere's, there's just, there's not this many educated voters in any state, during a primary. I'm just gonna be honest with you, it sounds derogatory, it sounds mean, but it just simply isn't true. so those people, that hundred eighty-five thousand, let's just say, those people came to the polls because they had down ballot local races, fiscal court judge, magistrates, sheriffs, jailers,

@faris4senate_kycity council members, commissioners, you name it, right? That drew that number of people. 'Cause if you look at, all right, this vote total in '22 Let's go four years later, '26. That one with Andy Bar drew... Let me go back to the number here. Four hundred and sixty-nine thousand people. So

@faris4senate_kyeighty thousand more people. Eighty thousand more people showed up, which interestingly enough, here's what's funny. 83,000 is the number past 200,000 that Andy Barr gets in a primary. You add 83,000 to Daniel Cameron's name, Daniel wins by 50,000 votes. I'm sorry, yeah, let me do some math. 144 + 83. Yes, that's 217. Yeah, so you're looking, you're looking at Daniel Cameron winning that race, okay?

@faris4senate_kyIf- Somehow, the same anomaly happened, like in the governor race, where in this state, we watched on live TV

@faris4senate_kyvotes switch from Andy Beshear, or from Matt Bevin, sorry, to Andy Beshear, losing the exact same votes that Andy Beshear gains on national television. Okay? So, but if, but if eighty-three thousand of those, quote-unquote, new votes or extra votes that are outside of the nominal Senate primary turnout, if those went to Daniel Cameron, he wins by almost thirty thousand votes. Now, that's interesting.

Ian MalcolmAnd, and that, that proportionally would be what in terms of a percentage?

@faris4senate_kywhat do you mean as far as Daniel winning?

Ian MalcolmExactly, yeah. And I, I'm, I'm asking just, somebody said in the, the comment section that some of the, the total tallies are, are hard to follow along 'cause they're just thinking of the, the percentages or proportionality of the votes, and without knowing the totality of votes, it's hard to understand or comprehend is thirty thousand a lot, is it a little?

@faris4senate_kyWell, thirty thousand in this race, well, there's-- So you'd have to take, give me one second to

Ian MalcolmAnd I don't mean to put you on the, the spot there, there in the math. No, two, two hundred

@faris4senate_kytwenty-six, two hundred twenty-seven thousand, you divide that by a total of four hundred sixty-nine thousand, and then you times that by a hundred, that gives Daniel Cameron forty-eight percent of the vote, if he, if he was to get those eighty-three thousand votes, those extra votes that went to Andy Barr, 'cause Andy Barr is sitting at two hundred eighty-three thousand eight hundred thirty-three, right? That's the total.

@faris4senate_kyNow One could say theoretically Andy could pull two hundred thousand votes, okay? And, and I'm saying that because he's done it before. He's pulled two hundred and twenty-two thousand votes in a general race. So giving him the best of both worlds, I can see where Andy Barr easily pulls two hundred thousand votes, okay?

@faris4senate_kyBut the eighty-three thousand extra votes that show up in this race versus the Senate race last, four years ago in this state Those eighty thousand extra votes, if those perchance went to Daniel Cameron, Cameron wins with forty-eight percent of the vote. As it sits, Andy Barr wins this race, two hundred eighty-three thousand, eight hundred thirty-three divided by four sixty-nine one seventy-two, and you times that by a hundred, he wins sixty percent of the race. So right now, currently as they say, Andy Barr won this election sixty, Daniel won it thirty. If you just take the eighty-three thousand votes out, okay? Just take them out. So four sixty-nine, one seventy-two. if you just take the eighty-three thousand out, four sixty-nine, one seventy-two minus eighty-three thousand That gives you 386, 172. Let me write that number down, 386, 172. Let's put Andy Barr at 200, 000, so we take 200, 000, we divide that by 386, 172, boom, boom, boom, and we times it by 100, that gives him 51% of the vote. And Cameron, if currently what he has is only minus the 83, 000 votes out of the race

@faris4senate_ky386, 172. You times that by 100, he, he gets, I made a error. One second, let me clear this out. We take his 144,592, we divide that by 386, 172. And we times that by- Yeah, it gets thirty-seven percent of the vote. So fifty thirty-seven, if we just take eighty-three thousand votes out of the entire race, okay? Then that puts me at being third place,

@faris4senate_kyeleven two nineteen divided by three eighty-six one seventy-two, so that puts me at times a hundred,

@faris4senate_kymakes a little more sense. That's only one percent of the vote. So let me make sure I did that right, eleven to, nineteen, about, three eighty-six. This is if we're just removing the eighty thousand votes from everybody,

@faris4senate_kythat actually ends up being two point nine percent of the vote, okay? Now, again, think-- let's think back to that twenty-two election I spoke about.

@faris4senate_kyThis woman, Val Frederick, who ran on a six member ballot, got three per six, three point six percent of the vote, fourteen thousand votes in that race. Okay?

@faris4senate_kythree point six, so, so two point nine to three point six. And I'm kind of comparing here because I'm trying to make sense, you know, this is us working together and things I've thought about since, you know, a week and a half ago. How can a guy who spent, I mean, one would have to say, basically the state hates Michael Ferris, let's just be honest. I'm just gonna be honest with you, because Val Frederick spends no money, filed no dollars with the FEC at all in twenty twenty-two. No dollars, she didn't spend a dime, didn't raise a dime, didn't campaign, didn't drive around the state, pulled second place to Rand Paul, thirty point six percent of the vote, fourteen thousand eighteen protest votes. That means nobody knew her but voters. Voted for just 'cause she wasn't, she wasn't Rand Paul, okay? The next guy got thirteen thousand of those, and they voted for him because, well, it appears that his name's not Rand Paul, his name's just Paul Hamilton, okay? And I'm being a little passionate, sorry if I sound angry, I'm not, it's just I'm trying to wrap my head around this debauchery. so one could say, a,

@faris4senate_kyeither the state hates Michael Ferris Or somehow I pulled less protest votes by spending eighty thousand more dollars than the last second place candidate.

@faris4senate_kyYou see what I'm saying here? It just doesn't make sense. You would think, at a minimum, we would have matched her three point six percent of the vote total, at minimum.

@faris4senate_kyAnd of course, there are some different metrics here, but, you know, this is a six-person ballot versus a twelve-person ballot, so there is room for error, there is room for fudging. But I mean, let's look at the bottom vote getter on this last election. Jimmy Leon, four hundred and sixty-three votes. That didn't hurt me. The next guy, Donald Wenzel, five hundred and forty votes. That didn't hurt nobody. Next guy gets eighteen hundred and fifty-eight votes. That hurts a little bit.

@faris4senate_kyGuy above him, 1894, that hurts a little bit. That's 3,600 votes cumulative. John Holiday, 1923. None of these people campaigned, actually of any of them. Andrew Shelley, I did catch him campaigning about four, four different counties, and he got 1,800 votes. Didn't file a dollar with FEC, didn't raise, didn't spend, okay? Just showed up to four Lincoln Day dinners.

@faris4senate_kySo you're talking about a total of-- Now listen to this, this is what's funny.

@faris4senate_kyYou're talking about a total of, if every Lincoln Day dinner has two hundred people at it, eight hundred people. So that means he two-ed the number of people he met on any given night in four nights in four counties across the state.

@faris4senate_kyYou see where I'm going here? This guy shook eight hundred hands maximum for a year. And got eighteen hundred and fifty-eight votes on this ballot. Didn't spend a dime, didn't raise a dime.

@faris4senate_kyJust doesn't make sense, guys. I, I mean, it makes you wonder, how is this possible? How can... And look, I'm, I'm willing to say I'm the worst candidate that ever, ever existed, if that's exactly what this means, but it can't be. I'm telling you that. It can't be. You can't spend $80,000 and get less votes than someone who ran on a six-member ballot,

@faris4senate_kywho got 14,000 votes who didn't spend a dollar just four years prior.

Ian MalcolmIt's just-- So as you've been thinking through this, I'm, I'm curious What explanation, if any, could you arrive at that would either justify or explain what happened? Oh, I can, I can

@faris4senate_kytell you, I can tell you exactly what happens. Based on my, based on my minilliquidity and what I know about elections,

@faris4senate_kywe have a Secretary of State using the ballots of dead and people who have moved out of state ballots and stuffing them for the desired candidate.

@faris4senate_kyThat is exactly what's happening here, guys.

@faris4senate_kyAnd this is why the SAVE Act will do nothing to fix your voter integrity. And I've been telling people that across the state, but they won't listen. You've got to go to the voter rolls. You've got to reset every voter roll across the nation. You gotta wipe it clean and make everybody come back in and register live and legal. If you don't, this is what happens every single election. This is what they've done to Donald Trump, and now this is what Donald Trump is doing for the Republican Party,

@faris4senate_kyand this is what he's done appears like for Andy Barr and, and, and Gowrie. Now anybody could say, "Oh, well, people just got tired of Massie." "Oh, Andy Barr was just a better candidate." I can't agree with that, guys. I, I just can't. I mean, look, when I,

@faris4senate_kywhen I'm going across the state, I can't think of but about five people who were excited to vote for Andy Barr. You know, when I'm going around the state, I can't recall one person in the fourth district ever to tell me they were excited to vote for Ed Galbraith. Now

@faris4senate_kyDoes that just mean the boomers are always gonna win elections until they die off? you know, there is that, there is that caveat. There's the caveat that the, the, the old people are sitting at home voting for Fox News on their ballots. That's possible, right? But what are these numbers? From 16 to 22 to 24? Are we getting that much more participation? I just can't fathom that, because listen to this. When you look at the state of Kentucky,

@faris4senate_kylast Senate election, thirteen percent of the voter base in the state shows up for the Senate election. This time, twenty-eight percent, double. All the while, the Secretary of State says, "Oh, we've cleaned the voter rolls up." Which means you have less voters, right? Which would, which would in turn double the percentage, okay? But the county registered voters hasn't changed. Do you see what I'm getting at?

@faris4senate_kyHow do you remove the dead and the people that have moved out and the quote-unquote illegals from the voter rolls in mass? But when it comes time to vote, that county has the same number of people voting in the primary. Within, within a certain percentage margin, right? But statewide volume doubles.

@faris4senate_kyI'm not a mathematician, but I'm also not an idiot, you see.

@faris4senate_kySo I think, and to answer your question, what it looks like to me is, they're doing exactly what they did in 2020. They are using ballots which are accessible because they live on the rolls Okay? That, that ballot can be drawn from the roll and voted on. Whether they're dead, whether they still live here or not, because guess what, when you move, unless you are just such a responsible citizen that you go to the next state and you go, "Oh, man, I forgot to register to vote here,

@faris4senate_kyand I forgot to unregister when I left." Arizona doesn't call Kentucky and say, "Hey, did you remove these people from your voter rolls? 'Cause I'm trying to add 'em to mine." That's like saying, you know, the IRS and DHS communicate. They just simply don't. They don't talk to each other. So the IRS doesn't know when you leave the state, the c-the country, right? But the DHS does. So I can go out of state, out of country, I can go make a hundred thousand dollars and never report to the IRS, 'cause the DHS isn't gonna tell the IRS, "Hey, there's possibility you left and went and made a hundred grand." They'll never know. 'Cause they don't talk to each other. No different than Arizona's not gonna call Kentucky and say, "Hey, I just registered one of your residents. Are they still living on your rolls?" They're not gonna do it. Those people live on those rolls unless they voluntarily go in and unregister themselves from the voter roll.

@faris4senate_kySo guess what? Every person that moves out of state who doesn't do that task, and every person that dies whose family doesn't follow up and unregister them,

@faris4senate_kythey've got a ballot that can be cast. And this is why the voter rolls have to be wiped clean, and the SAVE Act needs an amendment to do exactly that. And I've been telling people that across the state for over a year. And maybe that's why I only got eleven thousand votes, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd, and what's the reception to that when you're presenting this concept of the, the voter rolls and SAVE Act? Well,

@faris4senate_kythere, there's a couple of 'em that are basically what you'd expect from-- and I hate to say this, the boomers. Well, we gotta start somewhere. Okay, we gotta start somewhere that's gonna take forty years to make any relative change, okay? Well, but it makes everybody have an ID to vote, so we gotta start somewhere. No, it doesn't. The SAVE Act doesn't require an ID to register to vote. The SAVE Act requires proof of citizenship to register to vote, okay? Still doesn't require an ID at the ballot box. That's a state law function. Because guess who holds the, the times, places, and manners of elections? Not the Constitution, the states, okay? The SAVE Act doesn't change that.

@faris4senate_kyAll the SAVE Act does is says that they don't have to have proof of citizenship to register to vote. Okay, that makes sense. Now, why would they do that? Because they wanna make sure US citizens are registering to vote. I get it. But how do you fix what's going on? Unless you wipe the voter rolls clean and make every citizen go back in and register to vote, okay? No different than when you go in and renew your car tags.

@faris4senate_kyGuess what? Every year you go in and renew your car tags, you gotta make it something that they're doing simply that they cannot live without. It's gotta be linked to a property tax, a-

@faris4senate_kydriver's license renewal, a vehicle tax and registration renewal. It needs to be done, so the, the, the rolls need to be wiped clean. It needs to be re-registering every person as they walk in through a non-election year, that way everybody has a chance to get their, you know, voter roll taken care of. And then every- Eight year on non-election years, anybody within, you know, depending on how they register, it needs to be staggered, right?

@faris4senate_kyEvery eight years, based on when you filed on that non-election year, your next eight year non-election year, you need to be wiped clean and required to re-register again. Make sure you're alive, make sure you're still here in the state of Kentucky. Not so much to make sure you're still a citizen, but to make sure you still live here and that you are alive. And so

@faris4senate_kyThe, you ask how they respond, well, a lot of people who've never read the act go, "Huh, I never knew that." No, you didn't, because you don't read the bills, and most voters don't, and I get it. And that's why, you know, Massie was so popular, 'cause he read the bills and he told you, "Hey, these COVID PPP loans are gonna have fraud in 'em," and guess what? He ran against Ed Galbraith, who took two million dollars to bail hay during COVID, and guess what? The government gave him your taxpayer money for free. Nate Morris, my opponent, ran Rubicon Global, a trash company, right? Took ten million dollars in COVID PPP loans as a forty-one million dollar man and a billion dollar stock exchange company that within a year was delisted. Took ten million dollars in COVID PPP loans, and the government gave it to him for free, your money.

@faris4senate_kyI'm not mad at either of those men, I'm mad at the government that they allowed the law to allow them to do it. You gotta read the bills, you gotta vote for the people who read the bills. You gotta make sure the people who are watching Fox News know why you're reading the bills and why you're voting against the thing. I wouldn't vote for the SAVE Act as it's currently written, and I'll give you two reasons why. One

@faris4senate_kyIt doesn't require an ID to cast a ballot. We already have that requirement in the state of Kentucky. So as a, as a representative of Kentucky, I have no reason to vote for that act. Now, if they were to say they would wipe the voter rolls clean, guess what? Now I have a reason to vote for that, because that's something my state doesn't do right now,

@faris4senate_kythat may very well likely have fraud in it. And I'd be more than willing to wipe those rolls clean and make people re-register to vote. Now, here's another interesting thing about this SAVE Act that most people don't understand. Now, you've, you've heard of the REAL ID, okay? The REAL ID, in order to get that identification card, you've got to show a birth certificate or a passport to get it, okay?

@faris4senate_kyNow, under the SAVE Act, the REAL ID doesn't suffice to show that you are a US citizen to register to vote under the Act the way it's written. Fancy that. Now, why is that? Because California and even in Kentucky, thousands of REAL IDs have been sold to illegal immigrants by the people that work for the government, and they have been caught. And they have been fired, and the whistleblowers have been fired, but where is the accountability? Why aren't they in jail? Why haven't we hunted these people down, took their license, put them in jail, sent them back home, and then persecuted the people who sold the licenses? Well, why would we want accountability? Why wouldn't we just make another law that does nothing about the fraud that already occurred? Right? So, the real ID wouldn't suffice to go register to vote as the SAVE Act is written. You must still show a birth certificate or a passport. Identification which has citizenship requirement on it, which is funny because those are both documents you're supposed to have to get a real ID, which they sold to people without having those things. So if they're gonna do it for a real ID, folks, what makes you think they're gonna do it

@faris4senate_kyto register to vote? So if they're willing to sell real IDs without either of those documents, do you think they're gonna be willing to sell registrations to vote without those same documents? This is stuff to think about. This is stuff that your current representatives aren't doing, which Thomas Massie did, and has now been fired, because Donald Trump said he didn't like that he didn't do the right thing for Donald Trump, not the American people. And I'm a three-time Trump voter, I love the guy to death, I think he's a great guy, but he's made some mistakes, and he's surrounded himself by some very bad people.

@faris4senate_kyAnd as the SAVE Act is currently written, there's not a chance in hell I'd vote for it until they put something substantial there. And anyone here who understands what it would do, I hope that you will take that information and educate other people of that, because guess what? Everybody wants the SAVE Act because that's what they say on Fox News, and that's what they're sending in emails to everybody across the nation. And it's every state, and it's every congressman, it's every senator that's a Republican.

@faris4senate_kyThey're sending emails, guys. I get three emails a day. We gotta vote for the SAVE Act. It does nothing, absolutely nothing.

Ian MalcolmThat's a, a very interesting, take there, Michael. And, and it does feel-- I mean, anything that's, coming out of Washington these days, it, it feels like the name is antithetical to what it's actually gonna deliver, right? I'm, I, I would imagine the SAVE Act is actually gonna be the DESTROY Act when it comes to this. I just-- I don't n-- essentially know the angle

Ian Malcolmbut, but this is a, a very curious one that you've surfaced.

@faris4senate_kyWell, yeah, I mean, look, what other way than to make the law-abiding citizen pay for the errors of the non-law-abiding citizen? It's what they do. Make the laws more chaotic, make more of them. There was a famous guy one time that said, "The more numerous the laws, the more tyrannical the government," and it's absolutely a true statement, and it's what they continue to do and have done for the last I guess hundred years now.

@faris4senate_kySo getting back to running an election, running, running a campaign, right? Money is required. The only real metric you could have here is,

@faris4senate_kywell, you got Val Frederick, she shows you.

@faris4senate_kyShe shows you that as the same person for the same seat between two races, stretches four years apart, you can spend no money in one race and get fourteen thousand votes, and spend the same amount of no money in the same style race and lose seven thousand votes.

@faris4senate_kyIt's almost untrendable, you know, if you think about it. It's almost untrimmable, so it's like, what's the answer to win? It all goes back to money. Pour the money, pour the money into ads, get on the TVs, put your face on the TV, make sure you have a cute little family, pose for fake, you know, ads and point at weird things in factories saying you visited all these people you don't even know nothing about they're doing in that factory. Put that on TV and just sell it, just sell it to the media, you know, and then sell it right to the viewer at home and profit. Propagandize them.

@faris4senate_kyThat's, that's what this looks like is the only way to win an election.

@faris4senate_kySo, well, I mean, look, we're gonna try it again. I think, I mean, I'm gonna definitely- Yeah. I mean, I'm looking right here at the bottom of this. Val Frederick, receipts zero, disbursements zero, cash on hand zero. Okay. Now, look at this. This is interesting.

@faris4senate_kyRand Paul,

@faris4senate_kytwo point eight million in receipts, two point three million in disbursements, cash on hand, five point three million, December thirty-first, twenty-two. Why did that guy spend two point eight million dollars on a race where the only other candidate, Tammy Stenfield? Spent twenty, I had twenty-seven thousand in receipts and spent forty-two thousand and had a negative fifteen thousand eight hundred and twelve on hand, which basically probably means that woman, Tammy, spent her own fifteen thousand eight hundred and twelve dollars. How'd Tammy do?

@faris4senate_kyTammy got nearly dead last, two point five percent of vote, ninety-five hundred people. Dead last, spent the only candidate in that race that spent money other than Rand Paul. And came in almost dead last, within four thousand votes.

Ian MalcolmSo Michael, I, I've gotta ask, I'm very curious, of the money that you were able to build for the campaign, the money that went out the door for things like text messaging that you referred to earlier, that relative to things that you could do on the digital front, whether it was through, Twitter or, or other social platforms, I'm, I'm curious for the value that you prospectively- Got out of those social mediums that don't necessarily have a, a cost or a pay-per-click, type measurement to them.

@faris4senate_kyYou're, you're saying, you know, what do I think the metrics are from social media alone without money?

Ian MalcolmE- exactly. And the reason that I'm, I'm, I'm thinking about it is, with the case of, of Dan Bilzerian, for example, I'm kind of curious what the, the e-celebrity persona of someone like himself or Casey Pugh, who, you know, he had a YouTube channel. I Value, if any, that those lend to something like this, and, you know, if they're as valuable as somebody, that's listening might presume that they would be

@faris4senate_kyWell, I think like Puch, Puch did pretty good against, he was the back, right? He

Ian Malcolmwas, yep.

@faris4senate_kyAnd that was a governor race, it was a governor primary. I wanna say he spent somewhere around $125,000 and pulled about 19% of that vote, okay? But then again, that wasn't a really watered down race, you had, I think maybe 3-4 candidates at most, right?

@faris4senate_kySo if you look vote per dollar on Casey Pugh, that's a pretty damn swell turnaround.

@faris4senate_kySpent $125, got 19% of the vote. Let me, let me pull that up 'cause I think- And

@joann_mariealso he didn't have enough time to do like all of the, yeah, it was really, really fast. It was just a couple of months, right?

Ian MalcolmI was gonna say, Drew, what was it, three or six months, if I remember right?

@joann_marieI can't remember, but I remember it being like very little time. So he did amazing for, for doing it for so cheap and with no time whatsoever.

Ian MalcolmAnd that's, that's why I'm asking this question, Michael, 'cause I'm, I'm, I'm curious, especially as the younger, audiences start getting more and more into politics, and I've got to give credit to Nick Fuentes, who obviously has gotten a lot of, the youth thinking about kind of alt-right political ideologies. Right. I'm, I'm curious if there is an appetite in the not so distant future, to remove some of these financial hurdles if people can develop, you know, sincere interests and audiences in their message, in their voice through platforms, whether it's, it's Twitter or X, or perhaps with connections, obviously, Casey Pugh went on Tucker Carlson, granted it wasn't about his campaign, but rather some of his engineering projects, you know, but I'm, I'm curious if there is the capability Ability for somebody that has a little bit of a, a, a following or an aptitude to discussing these issues, but doesn't have these big pockets, i-i-in the future, are people gonna be able to compete through the digital landscape, and, and, and put up an objection to this system?

@faris4senate_kyRight. you know, that remains to be seen, with guys like Bill's Reign, because- Has his vote already took place? I haven't, I don't think he has, right? He's running against, Fine, right? He's against

Ian Malcolmthe, the morbidly obese, genocidal Jew, Randy Fine.

@faris4senate_kyRandy Fine, okay. So we'll have to wait till those vote totals come in, but like, I'm looking at, yo, you mentioned Ohio, Casey Pugh, I'm looking at the totals right now showing he got seventeen and a half percent of that vote at a hundred and forty-three thousand two hundred and fifty-seven people, okay? Total votes let's see.

@faris4senate_kyOh, let me pull up the calc. These are big numbers, I can't really do in my head that quick, sorry. 673, 902 plus 143, 257. So 817, 000 votes cast in a governor primary. That's, I mean, that seems kind of normal, 'cause I think Kentucky would pull No, Kentucky polls definitely way less than that in the primary to governor. It's like

@faris4senate_kyless than half of that, maybe thirty-five percent

Speaker 3of that number in a governor primary actually, that's actually a number you'd see in a general in Kentucky, I think. But I will say, Casey Puch, if you're saying he didn't have time to spend that money much, that means he has a Well, I can tell-- Well, you know what, I can't because that's a state race, and I don't know what-- Like here, they use KREF, that, that's for your statewide candidates who file, their treasury under a completely different system than the FEC. So I can't track Kluczynski's output. I don't know how much he actually spent of the hundred and a quarter he raised. But what I can tell you is, if he didn't spend, but- 20% of that, then there's absolutely no doubt social media played into at least 15% of his 17.5%, right?

Ian MalcolmI, I, I would, think exactly that, and that's why I'm, I'm curious about it because it, it, it does feel like we're entering this, this new strange world where, you know, the ability for a candidate like Bilzerian, or Casey Pugh, you know, if, if, if he had have gotten a big Casey push, let's say, from, from the likes of Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson or perhaps Nick Fuentes, you know, that those individuals can carry not just hundreds, but thousands Thousands of, of individuals to the voting booth, which in some of these primaries and, and perhaps even in some of the general elections, you know, that, that's the deal breaker or deal maker.

Speaker 3Yeah, for sure. I mean, I, I would, I would agree that that, but, but it's, but it's going to apply to, the way I see it Because look, I think Plutch probably had a pretty big following before he'd run into this thing. Am I wrong about that or what? No,

Ian Malcolmhe, he definitely had a, a large presence on YouTube, but it, but it wasn't political, it was more around his engineering projects and automated production. Okay. So,

Speaker 3yeah, sure. So, another thing about campaigns is, I'm just gonna tell you in my opinion, there is, a bit of optics, right, as far as Like what the voter thinks, okay? I had, you know, people tell me, "I shit you not, Ian, they'll tell ya, man, I love your campaign, I really like what you're saying, but you don't have a chance, so I got, I'm gonna have to vote for Barr, or I'm gonna have to vote for Cameron." You, you don't have a chance.

Speaker 3Why in the, God's green, green earth, would you do that? You, you just wanna vote for the, who you think's gonna win? That's the, like, we have to work on more than outreach, we have to work on mindset change, okay? There's, there's guys that in this state, several that are, well, I, I'm just gonna vote for, you know, whoever Donald Trump endorses, okay?

Speaker 3Why would you do that? Well, because he knows more than I do because he's the president, so he knows more about who he's surrounded by. Bro, are you effing kidding me? Donald Trump knows more about Andy Barr than you can find out on your own as him being a congressman in the sixth district and his voting record. Andy Barr knows more about-- I don't think so.

Speaker 3Donald Trump doesn't know more about Andy Barr than you can find in ten minutes with Google about who that guy is and the way he votes, okay? We've got to go beyond, you're saying, "How well does social media play into it?" Well If you look at Casey Puch, I'm gonna say very, very much so, but I don't have a large following. I mean, look, I've got maybe between Facebook, X, and Instagram, eighteen thousand spread across three, three platforms, you know, maybe. So eighteen thousand, and, and, and if you took what, ten percent of eighteen thousand, what is that? Eighteen hundred votes if all them voted, right? Or hundred eighty, I mean? So

Speaker 3If you look at Casey Pugh, yeah, absolutely, what you're saying is, is happening. But you have to already have the optics of a large following, you see what I'm getting at? Or, or you have to have the Carlsons, Ryans, the Megyn Kellys, the, whoever it is that people are listening to,

Speaker 3If it's, yeah, name your favorite podcaster. You know, if that's who you're listening to, and if that's what trends in your area, and that's what-- Do people still listen to radio? What, you know, what are they doing? Where are they getting their information? That's the question. because Man, I'll tell you, there's some old folks that are still listening to the radio, still watching the TV, and they're voting for the radio and the TV. They're being told what to vote for on those two devices. So,

Speaker 3let's see what happens with the bills of rain, because You know, there's gonna be dollars spent, you know, that's, that's a federal race, we can look that up very easily. But I wanna go through these counties in Ohio, okay?

Speaker 3Casey Pugh won seventeen and a half percent of the vote, Vivek got eighty-two and a half percent, with a, like I said, eight hundred, eight hundred and like ten, thirteen, six, yeah, okay, sixteen thousand, eight hundred and sixteen thousand vote race. Casey Pugh didn't win one single county either, okay? And we've got counties with votes as low as 947 people total, oh sorry, 1078, okay? Let's look at that, 1078

Ian MalcolmAnd, and you said he didn't win a single one of those, those districts? He didn't

Speaker 3win a single frickin' county, bro. Vivek Ramaswamy won every single county, and with this one in Benton County, okay? That's a ten hundred and forty-eight member county that votes in a primary on that twenty-six race for governor. Vivek got seven hundred and ninety-nine of 'em, Casey got two hundred and forty-nine, okay?

Speaker 3Let's go look at,

Ian MalcolmAnd, and are you able to see both Casey Spend and Vivek Spend on that race?

Speaker 3No, I just remember when I last looked at what Casey Puch had done, he was at a hundred and a quarter, but I can tell you Vivek, was in the millions. I can't remember if it was three or four, but he was in the millions.

Ian MalcolmYeah, and he also obviously has, y-you were mentioning Bilzerian earlier, right? obviously Vivek Ramaswamy, a former, for-formal presidential candidate, a lot of brand recognition, and, and so Casey was up against that as well, of course.

Speaker 3Sure. And some of these guys do this, but I mean, look, take your pick on whatever the candidate is that becomes the quote-unquote mainstream candidate. If you go back in history, they are b-- they are being built for the political role they're going after, okay? I mean, you look at Vivek, he took a large swing going presidential, we, we all know that,

Speaker 3but why did he do it? It looks, looks like to come back and win Ohio as governor, right? I mean, these people have been crafting these dreams Let's look at Nate Morris, okay? Nate Morris was supposed to be the political outsider. The dude's been in politics since he was twenty-three. He's traveled to Israel with Rand Paul. He's donated to Mitch McConnell, he's raised over half a million dollars for Mitch McConnell when he was about twenty-four years old. These people are being crafted years in advance of their name being thrown on TV, guys.

Speaker 3Okay? So you gotta understand that when you're looking at these elections Find the person no one's talking about and then try to call their phone number, like seriously, that's the one to vote for, okay? whether you think they're gonna win or not, that is the one to vote for. But let's look at this, let's look at these other counties that had some big numbers, like let's look at,

Speaker 3okay, here's one, Hamilton County, Ohio. That was a forty-one thousand two hundred forty-eight vote county. The BEC took thirty-six thousand, PUC took forty-seven hundred. Crazy, crazy. didn't win a single county. Not like, not even close. Not even close, my guys. It's crazy.

Ian MalcolmNo, it isn't. It, it just goes to show, and that's the challenge, right? And that's why I was bringing up the digital aspect of this, because In the case of Vivek, I, I mean, I'd, I'd be confident to say that even if he didn't spend a single dime, he probably would have won just because so many people are familiar with his, his name, right? A-and so there's this, this strange inflection point that we're hitting where having some kind of brand or persona, to your point about Bilzerian, right? He has that coming on to the ticket.

Ian Malcolmperhaps his, he can, you know, skate by without the big spending.

Speaker 3Sorry? Yeah, I, I think there's a possibility. I mean, but again, I think we've not seen-- I mean, look, these, all these things are all new. There's nothing to base that on, you know what I mean? I do. like Donald Trump, but like Donald Trump was, you know, world-renowned billionaire, you know? So, but another thing I did notice interesting about this Ohio race 32.5% of the people that voted were 45 to 64.

Speaker 323.9% were 65 and over. But can, can you actually walk

Ian Malcolmus through the demographics in totality?

Speaker 3Yes, absolutely. 18 to 29, 9.5%,

Ian Malcolm19.5%. 9 or 19?

Speaker 3Nineteen and a half percent, twenty, twenty

Ian Malcolmpercent of the vote, in that super young demographic. That's wild. Right.

Speaker 3Right. Well, it's super young and may have been.

Ian MalcolmAre, are you able to see what percent of that went for

Speaker 3Casey? No, I can't see it by, by, candidate. No. Joanne, I'd be very

Ian Malcolmcurious what percent of that younger demographic, Casey Pugh won, right? And, and that's, that's gonna be the Beldarian, what would you call, wild card, I would assume.

Speaker 3Right. Yeah, I, I agree, because what, what really- Actually, what surprised me here is that thirty-two and a half percent of these people were forty-five to sixty-four. I expected that to be the sixty-five and over, but actually in this case, the sixty-five and only over only make up twenty-three percent, and could be why Casey Pugh did so well. Wait,

Ian Malcolmwait a second. So the, the percentage of voters, I think you said eighteen to what, what was that, twenty? Eighteen to twenty-nine, nineteen and a half percent. Wow. So the sub thirty, w- showed up more so than the boomers. Or, or not more so, but almost on parity with the boomers. They,

Speaker 3they were, they were damn close. They were within four percent, yeah. Wow, that is-- Yeah, that is wild. That's, that's actually interesting and could be a reason why Casey did so well, because for forty-five to sixty-four, come up thirty-two and a half, like that's Well, actually, I guess if you take the thirty to forty-four, those are the ones getting beat the worst right now with affordability, 'cause eighteen to twenty-nine, they can still just college shit out and stay with mom and dad, right? That's

Ian Malcolmsuch a good point, Michael.

Speaker 4But aren't you a little disappointed that he did, he did lose though? Like, I'm, I'm like super disappointed that he lost.

Speaker 3Oh yeah, I'm disappointed that he lost 'cause I wanted, I wanted the establishment to get the kick in the teeth that they deserve, you know? Because look, like Vivek, you know, he endorsed Nate Morris, who dropped out and endorsed Barr, who for nine months was saying Barr was like, you know, fucking Satan, bro. You know, I mean, I hate to say that, but I mean, you don't spend nine months spending four million dollars, you know, going across the state Saying this is bad guy, bad guy, bad guy, and then at a moment's notice go, "Well, you know, you guys should vote for Randy Bar, I'm gonna go be an ambassador to Colombia." You know? I mean, that's ridiculous, guys. They're playing with our elections like it's a, you know, like it's a board game. So, alright, let me go to, let me see if they'll do this for Kentucky as well. This is interesting. Let me go to

Speaker 3Holy shit, this is almost mirrored to Ohio.

Speaker 4What do you think about Dan's campaign so far?

@froemelandyDan hasn't, I haven't seen Dan really do many events. Has he really been doing a lot of events? I haven't, he hasn't done any. Exactly. So like, how do-- is he gonna win without doing any events? Like, Zach Lan actually won the, Iowa governor nomination in a race no one was talking about, running against the candidate that Trump endorsed. He actually-- so he actually finally got an America First win in a race no one was talking about, which I find very weird. So he actually won one last night in Iowa. He took-- Yeah. Zach Lan took no APAC money. He, he's running against data centers. He's taking on- Big agriculture. So we finally won one, and his opponent, the Democrat in the general, has already taken, Rob Sant has already taken money from Soros, Pritzker, and Reid Hoffman, like the Holy Trinity of like Democrat, like Jewish mega donors. So it's like, this is so this, this election in Iowa is truly gonna be America first versus like Jewish money. Like, you can't really put it any in more clear terms.

Speaker 4I wish that Dan would campaign a little bit harder. same with, Casey, I wish that Casey also had a, you know, much better campaign than he did, because that was, you know, Casey was our guy, and Dan right now has the opportunity to do something in a race, very significant race, and, but he's not doing anything, and that's very disappointing.

@froemelandyI mean, Fitzpatrick leaving it all on the table. Fitzpatrick's the only

Speaker 4one. Fitzpatrick's the only one pushing hard. He's doing like, he's doing like eighteen events in the past like two weeks. Exactly. That's

@froemelandyhow you win a campaign, grassroots campaigning. I mean, Zach Laney pushed hard in Iowa and he won. Like, Randy Feenstra was absolutely hated on the grassroots in Iowa. Like, people were saying, like, since he won his fourth district years ago, he never even showed up in his district at all, and people were like, "Why the heck His district at all. So like, if, I feel like if Dan ran a campaign similar to Fishback and showed up and did all those events, and you had a bunch of youth showing up there, that would be different. But you can't win when you don't show up and do events. Like, I mean, just look at- For, like, that's just not a possible way to win a campaign. Just having some name recognition on social media isn't enough when you're going up against a well-funded Jewish incumbent. Like, calling him a fat Jew, which he absolutely is and deserves to be called, is a good line, but that's not enough to win an election when you're, you're in an uphill battle in a district that is very old. The average age is fifty-seven. Like, my dad is fifty-five, and my dad, I mean, my dad wouldn't vote for Randi Fine because he's also horrified Like, c-calling for open genocide. My dad would probably look at that race and vote for Aaron Baker, for example, if he wasn't voting in that primary, but he'd, he'd look at my, someone like my dad would look at Dan and be like, "He's way too extreme." He'd look at, Dan and be like, "He's way too extreme," and he'd be like, "Oh, here's Aaron Baker, he's a nice moderate guy."

Speaker 4He's this guy.

@froemelandyExactly, but most-- a lot of people who are Gen X and might be opposed to Israel are gonna look, so Dan has to literally drag every single youth voter to the polls, and you can't do that without an event, because you have to remember not every single person is on social media. Like, he needs to be posting on Instagram nonstop. He has thirty million followers on there, like he's one of the most famous people on Instagram. He has more reach. And the Florida

Speaker 4party, the Florida Republican Party is also not backing them at all. Like, they have a, they have- We have a gathering coming up in the Seminole Hard Rock Casino on June 27th in Hollywood, and, they literally have every Republican candidate that's running on this list except for James Fishback, Dan Buzen, and all of them. Yep. Randi Fines on it. You know, Byron Donalds is on it, Rainer's on it, Bobby-- even Bobby Williams, they even put Bobby Williams on there. Erica, Eric, Erica Donalds is on there, and she's not even running anywhere. Yeah, James

@froemelandyFishback does at least That Byron's committed to, so that's gonna be huge. 'Cause I mean, when you have to put Byron Donalds up there and he has to defend his past positions on amnesty, and he did once in the past say that we need to get justice for George Floyd, and he said happy Kwanzaa in the past, how is he gonna defend that on debate stage? It's gonna- And he, he's also

Speaker 4said that data centers, I think Florida voters right now are very anti-data center right now. Well,

@froemelandyyeah, Ron DeSantis is again, yeah, but Ron DeS

@froemelandyPersonally get behind Fishback. If he did, that would completely flip the race, but sadly he won't do that because his handlers will let Ron DeSantis be anti-data center, but they won't let him be anti-Zog. So they'll let him go against, they'll let Ron DeSantis pretend to be base by going against Zog on data centers, but not against him on the Israel issue. Like he signed the antisemitism bill in Israel, so let's not pretend Ron DeSantis is America first.

Speaker 4He flew there with Randy Fine. And sign the bill in Israel to prohibit First Me-- our First Amendment right of spe- speaking against Israel. That's, that's just insanity that our representatives are allowed to even do that, and we don't flip the fuck out and like flip tables and shit. Let's not forget Trump created Ron DeSantis.

@froemelandyRon DeSantis was third in his primary in twenty eighteen, and Trump endorsed him, and then he barely won his general election twenty eighteen. So let's not forget, Trump literally created DeSantis.

Ian MalcolmAnd, and Yisrael, I'm, I'm curious because I know you're very familiar with the Bilzerian campaign kind of on the ground, why haven't there been more rallies or visits? I mean, I, I would assume that Bilzerian could put up a, a post on X and Instagram, and, and this Critical, but more just inquisitive, you know, you could probably generate millions of impressions just by saying I'm going to school X, Y, or Z,

Ian Malcolmschedule something a week out and, and could probably fill a, a basketball arena, right? What, what do you think has been the holdup there?

Speaker 4He's just not here. I've spoken to him a couple of times and I asked him, 'cause I have played people, I know people in Florida that will let him literally take their venue and like, I know restaurant owners, bar owners, you know, the warehouse owners, that we can, you know, host events at and offer that to him, but he had like one fundraising, he had like one fundraising thing that he did with Hassan Shibley down here in Tampa, but that's the only thing that he did, and Tampa's not even in his district. and then he had, he scheduled something like a couple of, like two weeks ago and, but ended up canceling the event, the rally. So, like, we're getting into, you know, like, I think it's like less than eighty, seventy some days left, and, he hasn't really done any kind of campaigning, which kind of sucks. And like every time I bring it up to him, he's like, "Yeah, I'm gonna come next week," and he doesn't, you know, a-and he doesn't, he comes in, he He hasn't, I don't know, he hasn't done anything as far as like in that district that I know of significant so far, and he should be, because he, just like Fishback does, Fishback kinda just will put out a tweet saying like, "Oh, I'll be at this place at this time," and then just people just show up, because, you know, young people right now are excited, are, are, are fired up.

Speaker 4So he has the

Ian Malcolmopportunity to be young and now, like, this,

Speaker 4Fishback is pulling so much people. I went to, like, two weeks ago, he had, he was at some, he was at this, this place called Bitchnega in Tampa. It's like a, it's like a faux-- It's called what? It's called Bitchnega in Tampa. It's like a faux restaurant, right? It's like a Vietnamese restaurant. It's literally called like B C H N G A A or something like that. Oh, okay.

Ian MalcolmI, I must have misheard that. I was thinking Joann. What, what is going on with the culture these days? I'm

@froemelandyjust like people that show up at a Taco Bell camp. Bro.

Speaker 4Yeah, that, that, seriously, it's called that. And it also has a food, it's called, the food's called,

Speaker 4food, food called the, dang, what's, what's the name of the food?

@joann_marieOh, they, don't they have like a, a, a burger with that name as well, or something? No, they have like a ancient

Speaker 4something, fish nigga, and, and then, then, then there's like a name, there's like a funny name, like, yeah, that, that he had. It's a tough spell to, to get right way. And why, X,

Ian Malcolmshut down our space and, and ban us for, offensive language

Speaker 4But no, he, so he did that rall- he did that, you know, rally at that place, and then he went to a gas station, bro. Literally like a gas station. He's like, "Yo, we'll, we'll all meet there after the, you know, after like the restaurant." And literally there was like 400 people there at this random fucking alley gas station talking to Fishback, and it was awesome. They had a table set up, merch, like there was so many people, it was lit. And, you know, it's like, it's like, the energy here, it's just around Fishback right now in Florida, it's, it's just awesome. It's just good, nice to see, it's good to see. And like, I would really want- You know, Dan to kind of do the same thing because he's running in such a significant race, like this is one of the most important races, and, we have somebody that can possibly do some damage in there, and it's just he's scandering the opportunity, scumbling the opportunity, which kind of sucks.

@froemelandyYeah, I mean, literally all he-- Yeah, like he was in our spaces like a month ago, and we were, I was asking him and others were, and we're like, "Are you gonna start doing a lot of events?" And he literally said at the beginning of May, "Yeah, I'll start doing events next week." And he scheduled one event for outside the district and then canceled it. All he's done-- All he's done in this race is Create division, he started a JQ civil war, that's literally all he's done this. Like, I'm sorry, but we gotta call it out. He started a JQ civil war, he went on X, called Nick Quentas a fad, and then everything spiraled out of control after that, and he hasn't held a monopoly. His,

Speaker 4his chances were at like forty percent in Polymarket.

@froemelandyHe had a thirty percent, then it dropped

Speaker 4to a ten percent. It

@froemelandydropped, yeah, it dropped to ten percent. The trade was over after that. Imagine he doesn't call runs a serious campaign and he could actually like get endorsements from Fuentes, Fischbach, et cetera. Like imagine he actually hires Fuentes instead as a campaign manager or something.

Speaker 4Yeah, that, that would have been the move, bro. That's the thing, like, we had the opportunity, we had the chance, and like, I tried to talk to him about it, you know? I spoke to him literally. Like, the time it, literally, the, the minute it happened, I texted him. I was like, "Yo, what the fuck? " And he called me. He called me up. Bro, and but he's got so-- He, he's like, he's like, the way that he talks, like,

Speaker 4he'll just talk over And every time I would say anything, he would just steamroll to like, "Oh, but he didn't endorse Massey, but he did endorse Massey, just don't watch his show like everybody else, everybody that actually watches it, you know?" So it was kind of, I, I tried to talk him out of it. I was like, "Look, listen, like, we can't, this is, this is like getting stuck in quicksand like before we even get out of the gate."

@froemelandyLike Nick has more, like, and then you saw the poll that came out that seven point eight percent of Americans identify as Trooper's fans of Nick Fuentes, which equates to twenty-five million plus Americans, so it's like That's an insane amount of people.

Speaker 4Yeah, and especially in the young side, like under forty males, the, the, you know, the big chunk of the, the, that, that group is, is, is, you know, follows Nick Fuentes. And the thing is, like, you know, you don't have to agree with everything somebody says, but then you're, you know, you can't go full force attack your same, your own side when you're in the middle of the battle. But Dan

@froemelandyBilzerian said my strategy is to increase youth turnout, and then you attack Right. It's a fad. It's like, if anything, it seems like Dan almost was intentionally-- I'm starting to think someone hired Dan to create a schism in the right wing, and like, at this point, because like, if Dan-- like, if Dan did that and then was still running a serious campaign, then maybe you could look at it like, okay, he got a little emotional when at Nick, but he's not even running a serious campaign. It's like, what is he doing? Like, Massey at least ran a campaign, pushed his- Some events, Fishback's running a campaign, but like this guy's not even, hasn't done an event in his district. So it's like, what's even the purpose of all of this? It's like, he's honestly, I hate to say it, he's done more harm than good at this point. He's like fractured the JQ movement, and it- And also, he's, he's taking a lot from-

Speaker 4He al- he's also taking a lot of, pressure off of, not pressure, but the, but, like eyes off of, Aaron Baker, who is act- who's actually running a campaign, you know, a, a real one, which kind of, you know?

@froemelandyYeah, like if- Not endorse- No, not

Speaker 4an endorsement, but just saying he's running an actual campaign. You know, he's doing more than what Dan's doing.

Speaker 3Yeah, I feel bad for, I, I'm challenging on that, I feel bad for Aaron on that, because, I mean, look, ultimately if, even if Bill Sreene doesn't win,

Speaker 3he's gonna put a hurting on Baker, unless, now, there is this other interesting aspect that maybe,

Speaker 3maybe Bill Sreene is the spoiler candidate, right? And he helps Baker win. I, I don't know. But how would he, he's not gonna take

@froemelandyba-votes from Fine by running on- No, Andy, and

Ian MalcolmMichael, I'm curious for your thoughts on this 'cause perhaps he almost could in the sense that if Bilzerian looks, let's, let's say, outlandish to some, but he's also landing critical blows against Randi Fine by pointing out the genocidal aspects of his rhetoric, then perhaps there are a lot of folks that, that come in and say, "Well, this guy in the middle looks somewhat reasonable." Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3I'm gonna have a hard time voting for a Dan Bill's reign, right? So, they'd have, they'd have a, more of a chance to vote for, you know, Baker, and then Fine as like a, a hold your nose type vote, or maybe there's pro-Israel voters. With the TV, I don't know if Baker's running ads or not. I haven't talked to him in a while.

@froemelandyI think Adapac put up a billboard, well, they didn't put up a pro-Baker billboard, they put up an anti-Fine billboard.

Speaker 3Yeah, well, you know, I'll be honest with you, I had a, probably, what was that, ten billboards in, I mean, like some of the biggest counties. So there was fifteen counties that I really needed to do well in, in Kentucky, and I went with ten of them in the, the highest traffic place, and didn't do well in those counties at all. So, I mean, I don't want to ruin your parade, but billboards aren't,

Speaker 3I mean, in Kentucky anyway, unless they cheated me out of votes, billboards did me what appeared to be no good, or only got me a hundred votes here and there wherever they were in those counties, you know? Like, really low.

@froemelandyYeah, yeah. This IOR race though with Zach Land seems very crucial considering the fact, as I've said,

Speaker 3I want to ask you about this, you said this, what's the name of Zach right? But were

@joann_mariethose, were those like anti, your contenders or pro you? Because I think people react more to negative stuff, you know, like if you put, Brandi Vine said this, and, you know, like people- I don't, I think if they see it, they wouldn't vote for him, you know? But when someone is like, just a picture or something- Yeah, no, mine, mine was,

Speaker 3mine was, Michael Ferris for US Senate, obviously had an image of me and said Ferris for Senate. So yeah, there, there could be- There could be a positive to the negative there. I see what you're saying, ma'am, and I can't tell who you are, I'm sorry, but this- Oh, I'm Nicole

Speaker 5Host. Joanne. Okay. All

Speaker 3right, Joanne, sorry, thank you. You, you could be correct there. There could be some positive to the negative, I agree with that. And, But I wanted to ask about this in fella, you know, somebody said in Iowa, right? Is that where he's at?

@froemelandyThat, Zach Lan, yeah, he took no APEC money and was running against data centers, and he, and Trump endorsed his primary opponent, a sitting US House of Representatives member, Randy Feenstra, late in the race, and Zach Lan still won despite not having, running against the Trump endorsed candidate. He won by one percentage point. That's

Speaker 3interesting. Now you have to, you have to understand Iowa too. They're a, Well, there's,

@froemelandyyeah, the farmer, the farmers are hurting because of the war. Well, not, not only that,

Speaker 3there's a reason why the caucus is in Iowa every, every presidential term as well, because they are, fierce voters and they, yeah, they pay attention. They, they

@froemelandyare. I went, I went to the University of Iowa and graduated in twenty twenty-four. I understand Iowa. Okay,

Speaker 3good, alright. So, yeah, that makes total sense. Now The rest of the states, if we could just be like Iowa, when it comes to elections, we'd be good, right? but unfortunately, we're not. But that is interesting. Now, how did, how did Zach-- You said Zach did a lot of events, right?

@froemelandyyeah, yes, he did a lot of smaller events and Randy, yeah, and Randy, yeah, he, yeah, he did a lot of smaller events and I believe he had some self-funding as well. But

Speaker 3so what, how do you think this fella pulled in? Like did these events have five, ten, twenty, hundred people? Like, was he go-

@froemelandyYeah, yeah, by the end of the campaign, I think some of them had like two hundred and forty, but it was like grassroots campaign, and they had more events that people there than Randy Feenstra, a sitting US House of Representatives member, which is absolute-- Which is just insane, because you think the sitting- Right. Re- so that should just tell you that this sitting guy wasn't popular nor other candidates in the race as well. But this, so that's just telling that this Randy Feenstra wasn't well liked at all. Like, like he was getting, he got ratioed on one of his posts when he was touting Trump's endorsement by a bunch of other Republicans saying, like, "So you're a sell for data centers in Israel?" Like, Republicans were ratioing him on that and were saying, like, "You never show up in your district." Voter literally who was a die-hard Trump supporter, someone commented saying, "I was a die-hard Trump supporter, I'm done with Trump because he endorsed Randy Feenstra." So this Randy guy was literally just completely toxic, I guess, in Iowa, like absolutely despised, I guess. Can you tell

Speaker 3me about how this dude got those events? I mean, was, were these Republican Party events or just his own thing that he created?

@froemelandyHe was hosting, I, I mean, I, he was just hosting these smaller events at different, like, places, I guess, like restaurants, I guess Like a hundred, two hundred people, and in a state like Iowa, that's what you have to do to win a pla-- in Iowa, like the Iowa caucus, like not, like none of, like in a governor's race, you're not gonna be filling up the University of Iowa basketball stadium with fifteen thousand people, like even Trump, when I was a student at the University of Iowa Back when I still supported Trump, like Trump held an event at like the, at a hotel and there were maybe like a close to about a thousand people there. Like Iowa's different than some other states, you don't typically hold mass stadium rallies nearly as much as you would in another state, for example. It's a lot more grassroots campaigning, so it's gonna be at like restaurants, things like that. You'd have 'em in restaurants, barns, stuff like that. It's not gonna be- Right. Yeah,

Speaker 3sure. But, but I'm saying- How is he getting the message out about this? Because, like for instance, I, I was at some Lincoln Day dinners, man, where there would be forty people or less. So it's like, you know, if you can't even pull people to a, a nice little dinner or a free event, even, you know, it kind of makes you wonder, like, what, what motivates the voter to come out, you know, and, and, and go to these campaign events?

@froemelandyI mean, he was running on regenerative farming, so I think that really kind of, I think it must-- that part must have really inspired people that, and I think the anti-datas center must have just really encouraged a grassroots movement. He was also endorsed by Maha Action, which is a political action group, which is-- here's the

Speaker 3question, like, was the media talking about him at all?

@froemelandyoutside of him going on Tucker Carlson early on, no, that's about the only- There he is, you named

Speaker 3it. He went on Tucker Carlson, and then he started getting, getting some attention.

@froemelandyYeah, that was, that was about it, yeah. So, like, yeah, so that was about it, and Randy, yeah, that was literally about it. And Randy Feinstrecher's take, his opponent took APAC money, but he-- There's a Facebook post where he replied to someone on Facebook, and someone commented on him like, "Please don't take any APAC money," and he was like, "Zero." Do you, do you

Speaker 3guys feel like, because this is kind of what I'm watching now, I'm, I'm maybe, maybe wrong? But I feel like the, like the Republican Party is going towards Massey, Green, Tucker, you know, is that what everybody else is seeing, like at, at the like real level, reality?

@froemelandyyes, I think it's definitely headed in that direction. Tucker, I'm still a bit unsure what exactly he is, because I was thinking maybe he's fully America First, but I'm still concerned he might flip on us and then back Vance. But in terms of what he's portraying, like what his views, absolutely, I think it's shifting in that direction, and the youth are like fully in the Nick Fuentes camp, like, especially the young men, like, the young men are, like, Trump's won Men ages eighteen to twenty-nine by one percentage point, but Trump's net favorability with young men is now negative fifty-five, so the young men are completely done with Trump, like it's not even close. Like young, like young people are either gonna be like Fuentes, Candace Owens or Hassan Piker, like those are the people that young people are following, and then maybe like Tucker. Like young people aren't gonna be following anyone on mainstream media. Like it's the end game of this is gonna be a Fuentes-type candidate in the future versus a Hassan Piker-type candidate. That is the end game in all of this. It's not gonna be, maybe not as early as twenty twenty-eight necessarily, but by twenty thirty-two, it's gonna be a Fuentes-esque candidate Versus a Hassan Piker as candidate. It's not gonna be Newsom versus Vance politics, but that's the end game of all this. That's where this is headed. It's gonna- What is your

Speaker 3name, sir? I'm sorry, I'd just like to know, I'm, Andy. I can't see up here in the thing, but, I, I would like to find you in Folly and maybe we could stay connected. Yes, thank you, Michael. What, where, what is your, what is your title on here?

@froemelandyAndy Frem

Speaker 3I don't see it here. it's like a picture of an eagle with a group of

Speaker 3flags. Yeah, I have an eagle, eagle, yeah. Let me see. Like a real eagle or like a caricature eagle or? It's

Ian Malcolmlike a, AI eagle with, American flag wrapped around one of its wings, it looks like. Oh, Mike, I'll set up a, a group of messages. Got it, got it. Oh, you got it, perfect.

Speaker 3okay, so now you're saying all this, now the question is, if that, if that's how this is gonna work, I mean, and, and I, I agree with you to a, to a certain degree on where this is going. I don't know, I don't know that the national politics reacts so quickly, but I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3How do we get those people to vote, man? We gotta get 'em to show up to vote. You know, I

@froemelandymean, the boomers are also dying off, and I think you'll have- They are. And I also think there's gonna be a shift after the next recession. I think there's gonna be a recession pretty soon, and that's gonna radicalize more people. When people are- Right, right. When people realize that the recession was caused by this war, more people are gonna be red- Like sixty percent of this country already has an unfavorable view of Israel,

@froemelandyand then h More to do with Jewish supremacy and not just Israel, and then it's gonna get to the point where someone like Tucker becomes the moderate in the Republican Party. And like, hell, you have people like that think Nick's the moderate, like people like Ian and Truth Tellers think Nick is moderate. Like, like Nick on his show literally says, "People call me a fad 'cause then they get mad at me for not talking about the Jews enough." Like, that's literally where we're at. People were saying this months ago, like some, I think it was Sneak or someone was saying, or was saying like eventually, or, or was someone was, I don't know if it's Sneak or what, someone was saying eventually people are gonna get mad at Nick and say he's not extreme enough, and we're already almost headed there, where people think Nick Fuentes, who most Americans still think is a Nazi, you already have people on the right who think he's not going far enough, which is like patently absurd, which like I think in a lot of ways We almost need to, like, I'm not slow down because it's like we're, oh, like, like you have to remember, the majority of Americans aren't even on X. Like, the fact that we already have people saying Nick Fuentes isn't extreme enough is like, I'd say is almost patently absurd in a lot of ways. Like, you ask the most Americans about Nick Fuentes, they're gonna falsely call him a Nazi, like he's And you let a boomer find out about Quetzalcoatl, bro, that's gonna be a bad thing. And not, like, being a Nazi in like the National Socialist sense isn't a bad thing, like, if we're looking at it in the false sen-sense of kill all Jewish people, then like, yeah, that's a bad, like, we're not about, like, we're not about genocide, but if we're talking about National Socialist economics and getting rid of degeneracy, then absolutely, that's a great thing.

Speaker 3Yeah, if you have a traditional Boomer find out about Fuentes, they're probably gonna have a heart attack.

@froemelandyOh my God, I couldn't even imagine, like my, like one of my dad's friends was saying like Nick's a Nazi, but like he said he was kinda following the social media drama, and I mentioned like, there's someone on the left that called Nick an Israeli agent, and he immediately knew I was referring to Hassan Piker. So like some older people are, like Gen-Xers are kinda like following this online, even if they're not really in- In the camp, so it's like a lot, I think a lot of, it's kind of interesting. I feel like it's gonna be interesting to see when this recession hits, you're gonna have a lot of people shifting in, more people shifting into the Nick camp and a lot more people shifting into the Hassan Piker camp, like Hassan Piker, for all intents and purposes, I'd say at this moment, has more influence in the Democrat Party 'cause you see candidates like his that are actually winning nominations, like Graham Cliton, or for all intents and purposes, I'd say, is a Hassan Piker type candidate, like he, like he's literally gone on, made Reddit posts praising Hamas raids, like that's Hassan Piker type views, like Hassan Piker's pro-Hamas, let's not- Like that's a Hassan Piker-esque type candidate. And there's a Muslim guy in Michigan that Hassan Pikers,

@froemelandyappeared with that's poised to win the Senate nomination, and then he'd be favored to win a Senate seat. So like, and it's because the Democrat Party's not trying to cancel Hassan Piker in the same way that the Republican Party is trying to shut down Nick Fuentes. And I've been saying, I actually ratioed APAC with this once, the meme of the Israel chain dragging down MAGA the sea creature And I said, whichever political party abandons Israel first will dominate American politics forever, and that's true. But is it gonna be America first, or is it gonna be open borders, LGBTQ, some janky form of communism, whatever the heck you wanna say Hassan Piker's views are, third worldism, whatever you wanna call it? And we better hope it's America first and not what Hassan Piker's gonna-

Speaker 3I gotta ask you another question. Do you think- There's any chance Trump can save these midterms at all? Like, what could he do, you think? I don't have my own ideas, but-

@froemelandyshort of, he'd literally, I think, have to cut off Israel to save the House. Like, he'd literally have to cut off all aid to Israel and say, "We're done with Israel," like, that's the only way they could keep the House. Even with the gerrymandering, they're still gonna lose the House. He'd literally have to cut off Israel at that point.

@froemelandyLike it would have to end the relationship with Israel, like end, not end this war, like end the relationship with Israel. That's literally the only thing it could do that, and throw some Epstein clients in jail. Like if, like if Les, Les Wexner's getting purged to federal prison, Reid Hoffman, these pedophiles are getting purged to prison, and he ends the relationship with Israel, like actually do what he promised, like that's literally what he'd have to do, and end the relationship with Israel, like he'd actually have to do what he promised, so it's not gonna happen because he's not allowed to. Like he would, something would happen to him or before that.

Speaker 3So given this last incident where he, you know, supposedly cussed out Netanyahu, how soon do you think he gets on TV and then now praises him again when he's back?

@froemelandyHe's probably gonna get on TV soon and say that he should receive a pardon soon, assuming this incident even happened and it's not kosher theater, 'cause I think it's theater and it's him trying to say so then the MAGA can say, "Trump's not controlled by Netanyahu, he stood up to the BBC, Trump's independent, he's a strong leader, he thinks for himself." And that's the, and that's why you have Levin go at him to then, because Levin doesn't care if people call him crazy. He did that spiel before then, say, "I'll be called a war mongering Jew, I'll be called this, I'll be called that," but Iran can't have a nuke. Levin doesn't care if people think he's the villain, so Levin can play that foil where he goes at Trump, but Trump's already backed himself into a corner with that because he said, "If you criticize Mark Levin, you're not MAGA." So then after

@froemelandyMag and Kelly was on with someone, and she said, "That's the issue with MAGA, that Trump said MAGA is defined as if you agree with Mark Levin or not, and just like Mark Levin, MAGA is angry, old, and dying, and it really is. Like, who the heck my age supports Trump? Like, it just does, outside of Brian Hollyhand, who's paid. Like, that's the one young influencer who supports it."

Speaker 3How old are you?

@froemelandy24.

Speaker 3So did you vote for Trump in the last, when you could vote?

@froemelandyyes, I did, 'cause I wasn't really red-pilled yet. Like someone kind of started explaining this Israel stuff to me like a few days before the last election, and he-- And then he told me like, "It doesn't really matter who you vote for, both sides are controlled." And I was like, "Eh, I'm still gonna cast my vote for Trump because of him." Right, right.

Speaker 3Yeah, I, I appreciate that. I just wonder-- I was just, you know, for And like what, now would you think that it was social media that brought you to this conclusion, or did you just-

@froemelandyIt was social media. I actually met a guy, on sports Twitter, a few days before the election, and he started explaining this stuff to me, like I believed all of this, like, this propaganda with Israel and stuff, and then he started talking, basically, just threw me in off the deep end and explained the Rothschilds and all of that, and then he explained it to me in a way where it actually like made sense, and then I started understanding it So

Speaker 3you were, you were a hundred percent like pro, pro Israel though before all that.

@froemelandyYeah, basic-- Yeah, basically. Oh wow. Like, yeah, like I believe the narrative beca-- I believe the narrative because, like, I, I just believe like the MAGA narrative, like, yeah, I, I just, yeah, I believe the MAGA narrative, like, they were attacked, like, I didn't necessarily believe all of it, like, I wasn't-- Like, I believe, like, okay, Trump would-- Like, I believe this only happened 'cause Biden was That wouldn't have happened 'cause this stuff didn't happen when Trump was president. That was kind of my view on it, and I was literally thinking like, "Biden is such a freaking idiot. Like, this is literally like, Biden just handed Trump the election, like, with this." Like, I was literally thinking all these people are pissed about Palestine and they're gonna swing over and vote for Trump, and they, Biden just handed Trump the election. Like, I was, that's literally kind of what I, I was thinking. And now we have the reverse where Trump's letting this all happen And he's just handing the election to Democrats, so it's like the reverse almost.

@froemelandyLike I was looking at this and, and I was looking at the election, I'm like, "W- like, I'd, like, the one thing I didn't understand, like, I kind of knew Muslim voters were upset and weren't gonna vote Democrats, but I didn't understand that Jews were a Democratic voting, bloc at that point. Like, I didn't know that Jews literally would always vote Democrats, so I thought that Jews were gonna swing towards Trump, and then-

Speaker 3Oh yeah, bro. They're like, everything they do is basically, it's all Democrat. Yeah, I didn't understand that then.

Ian MalcolmAnd, and, and Fort Worth, they did break heavier for Trump than, they had for Republican in a long time. CNN's exit poll though, still

@froemelandysaid it was seventy-eight Kamala, twenty-two Trump, which is ridiculous that, d-- you literally have Republicans still posting, "Democrats are anti-Semitic, vote for us," and it's like, they're only two percent of the population, so they're not gonna swing. Muslims actually swing and like Michigan- We did swing this election. What are you talking about? I, I said Muslims do swing. No, I'm saying Jews. They voted only twenty-two percent for Trump. That's not a swing.

Speaker 6not really too sure about that. That was the, that

@froemelandywas the CNN exit poll. There's, some polls- CNN exit

Speaker 6poll. There's some

@froemelandypolls from like Republican Jewish groups that claim Trump got low thirties, but Trump got more Muslim votes than Kamala, and then a lot of, then a lot, then a lot of them actually voted third party. Israel

Speaker 6is a huge supporter of Trump, so it just shows you Jews are willing to go that direction. So who, who's,

Speaker 3who's the guy speaking saying that he's-- It's

@joann_marieBen, it's Joe, he's a little bit crazy. No, no, I want, I want to

Speaker 3hear his thoughts on where he feels like this lands him in, in political, you know, in politics. Like, how does he feel what's going on? Isn't it

Ian Malcolmstrange that, that he kind of openly talks that Israel is influencing and essentially controlling American politics, but then if we say those very things, it's labeled anti-Semitic? It's, it's very, very strange. That's not my Which piece is not your opinion?

Speaker 6None

Ian Malcolmof

Speaker 6those things.

Ian MalcolmIf you want me, I'll say- You were just, you were just talking about swinging the election literally sixty-five seconds ago.

Speaker 6No, I'm not saying swinging the election. I mean, I'm, I'm saying that naturally, it's naturally going to- Precisely what you were suggesting. Well, I'm saying naturally it's swinging- So

Ian Malcolmnaturally, so now you're directly contrasting what you said sixty-five seconds ago and then contrasting the- What did I say

Speaker 6sixty-five

Ian Malcolmseconds ago? Oh my god, here we go. No, Contradicted himself from two minutes ago and then contradicted himself on the thing about the contradiction fifteen seconds ago. Can, can you follow a conversation? Bro, can you continue? What do you mean, can I con- I can, I'm happy to continue. Oh my God. The

@joann_mariegas lighting is insane. Can, can I con-

Ian MalcolmContinue. That's, that's a strange one.

Speaker 6It's just like you're, you're making a mockery of, of this whole conversation. I'm trying to have a serious debate.

Ian MalcolmYou're, you're, wait, hang on. First off, you're not capable of debate as we just demonstrated, 'cause you can't follow a conversation over the course of something like 90 seconds. If there's something that you would like to specifically debate, then lay out a premise, and we're happy to debate it. But you've been embarrassed repeatedly in every conversation that you've obnoxiously come into.

Speaker 6I do have something that I, I want, I mean, I thought he was gonna bring something up, but he never did. No, I, my thing,

Speaker 3my thing was I wanted to know, first of all, I don't know you. I mean, you said, you said you're Jewish, I don't know how you,

Speaker 3I, I don't know how you,

Speaker 6I, I was brought up Jewish. My, my, my, you know, family is immigrants from Egypt. They were actually kicked out of the country, you know, on, they were, the, the country was like in the fifties and sixties, the country was like, you know, arresting all Jews, so my parents had to flee. You know, they met each other in Brooklyn. my grandpa was very religious. My parents moved to New Jersey, and I, I didn't really grow up too religious,

Speaker 6yes, I, I would consider myself a Zionist. What,

Speaker 3what does it mean to you to be a Zionist? I'm just, these are all-- I'm not trying to put you in a box, I'm just-- No,

Speaker 6you're not. I like this, I like this conversation. So, so what it means to be a Zionist is basically that we believe the Torah, and we're hoping that Israel is reestablished and we could re-set up the temple, and God could return. You know, there's something called the Shechinah. I don't know if you know God's divine presence

Speaker 6manifested in reality. So, but, but you are- It was awesome.

Speaker 3But you are- We want that

Speaker 6again. So

Speaker 3you're not a Christ-believer, am I right?

Speaker 6I am not a, I, well, I believe, actually, I have some very unique views. My belief is that Christ wasn't the Messiah, but the, Institution of Judaism was actually corrupted at that time, not because of the Jews, it was 'cause the Jews, but it was also mainly 'cause the Romans. The Romans started appointing their own priest and priest king. It was actually 'cause after Hanukkah War, priest and king merged into one thing. So they weren't, it's, it's like if we didn't have like the, the separate things.

@joann_marieThat, that, that's not the topic of this space, though.

Speaker 6Yes. Sorry, sorry. So basically, where, where were we? Sorry.

Speaker 3I asked you kind of what Zionism meant to you, and, and then asked you your question. Oh, what Jesus? So, so

Speaker 6Jesus, so he basically identified the corruption, right? But he wasn't the Messiah because he's dead. Right? And he's not gonna come back to life, sorry to break it to you. So he's not gonna- But you

@joann_mariethink, you think the Messiah is Menahem Mendelsohn and he's also dead, so like-

Speaker 6Well, I think that he, that it wasn't supposed to be the Messiah. He was supposed to prepare the world for Jewish exile, because how could the Messiah come before the exile? Right? If it says in the book, "If you, if you, if you mess this up, I'm gonna exile you into the nations, and then you can return,"

Speaker 6Come before the exile. It doesn't actually make sense. He wasn't the Messiah. The Christians think he's gonna come back and finish the job. I think he's dead, and he was just a human, just like us, and he's not gonna come back and finish the job. But there's gonna be a Jew who comes back and restores this message. So it's kind of like everybody wins in a weird way.

@joann_marieYeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. I think, Jesus is God and you guys aren't correct and- Alright. But you want,

Speaker 6you've been waiting two thousand years. If you wanna keep waiting for- I'm done. I'm waiting. Wait, hang on, how, how long would that have

Ian Malcolmmeant that you've been waiting?

@joann_marieBen?

Speaker 3It's a very long time.

@joann_marieI'm waiting for someone with

Speaker 6balls to step up and do it. You're waiting for a dead person. Wait, wait, no, no, no, Ben, can you answer my question?

Speaker 6Well, I just said I'm waiting for someone with balls to step up and do it. You're waiting for a dead person to come back to life. Just step up and do what? To be the Messiah and restore Jesus' message.

Ian MalcolmSo you've been, you've been waiting longer than the Christians that you just mocked, right? Well, I've

Speaker 6only been waiting thirty-five years.

Ian MalcolmOh, oh, okay. So, so how long then has Michael been waiting? 'Cause you just suggested it's two thousand. Well,

Speaker 6let me... Well, I'm the one who figured out, so it's like, no one else steps up, I'll do it. Can you, can you, can you follow a logical

Ian Malcolmprogression or do you just move goalposts like a

Speaker 6five-year-old?

@joann_marieYeah

Ian MalcolmGod, the, the narcissism knows no limit. Dude, it's-if no one else steps up, I don't

Speaker 6want to do it. If no one else steps up, I'll do it. And it seems like no one's gonna step up, so I was like, I'm doing it. Ben, Ben, Ben,

Ian Malcolmcan you do me a favor and spell the word Messiah? Dude, I'm not playing these stupid games. Can, can you please spell the word Messiah,

Speaker 6bro, like don't insult me. You know, I would, I

Ian Malcolmwould think that if

Speaker 3anybody could have done it

Speaker 6It's so funny, it's too easy, Joanne. Well, it's true, bro. Anyone can do it. I think that I have a better chance of being the Messiah than Jesus returning from the dead. You just can't spell the word that you wanna become, right? M E S S I A H, dude. Stop playing with me, bro. Bro, I think I have a better chance of becoming the Messiah than Jesus returning from the dead. That's just my opinion. I think I have a better chance than Jesus

Ian Malcolmreturning from the dead. That's

Speaker 6narcissism running rampant. No,

Ian MalcolmOh, B. Bex, I honestly typed it in crock. Ben, this always goes so poorly for you. So poorly, bro. I was, I was genuinely

Speaker 3interested in the guy's, take because- I'll

Ian Malcolmleave him to you, Michael. I feel bad at this point. Well,

Speaker 3I was, I was genuinely interested in his take on things because I don't, I don't know a whole lot of Jewish people. you know, look, the guy who did my text messaging, he claimed to be Jewish, and, the, the- There's a guy in my campaign who's a local kind of country boy who claims to be Jewish, but they don't ever really speak, and actually, so the one country boy that claims to be Jewish is very much, post-prison, post-prison Jew. Which means... It's

@joann_mariea vile religion, you should look into what the Talmud says about it. Well, I, I don't even

Speaker 3wanna read it, to be honest with you, 'cause I've heard so much negative stuff about it, but, Yeah, no,

@joann_marieyou should. It's, it's shocking, it's shocking that people despise you.

Speaker 3It's not that shocking. But I was curious to take because I'm trying to figure out, like, so the idea is, like, at the base of all this is that they, you know, they promised this land And them doing anything to get there, it becomes like that you hate them. And it's like, you know, I wondered if that's how he actually sees it on his end, or like, does he all just think that we hate Jews because they're Jews, or is it because of their actions, right?

Speaker 6So I have actually a theory on this. I actually wrote five books on this exact subject. It's called Reality Is a System, right? And what I've dis-discovered is that the Torah is the operating logic of reality itself, right? So the, the, the real, the real issue is that everything after the Torah is basically man-made.

@joann_marieOkay, but Ben, do you think gentiles hate Jews because they're Jews or because of their behavior?

Speaker 6So I think antisemitism Works through, you know, in, in the way of a system, systems navigate around the highest density Anchor in the field. So if you have Jews- That doesn't, no,

@joann_marieno, no. Is it because of the behavior or because they're Jewish?

Speaker 6Well, it's like a cycle that no one can actually help. So it's, so I'll tell you exactly how it works. So basically, when- No,

@joann_marieI think it's because of the behavior, though.

Speaker 6No, well, it's also because of output and visibility. When you have Jews that are performing at a high visibility, especially when they started opening up schools to, to Jews, right? And Jews came in and they were Right? It became a direct target at their own internal,

Speaker 6pin network of beliefs, their own, their own internal identity,

@joann_mariebecause they thought that they were, they

@joann_marieDo anything with like, oh my god, they're successful, like it's not bad. I get it, but that's not the point. They're like stealing shit and they're like also becoming parasites of the system, so that isn't- Well, it, it,

Speaker 6so let's go with the parasite thing. Shall we even go with the fact that they are becoming parasites, right? What I'm saying is that- No,

@joann_mariethey're not becoming, they've always been.

Speaker 6Well, they have to become a parasite, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't get put into those positions. So my whole thing is that they're becoming parasites naturally just by How this isn't like some like foul play, and that's why it's like when you're arguing against Jews, they have no choice but to be like, "These guys hate us for no reason, " because they're not actually doing anything. They're just like working hard. Wait, wait, wait.

Ian MalcolmSo, so Ben, when, when I say that Jews control the media and people say, "Why are you an antisemite? " and I say, "Look at all these Jews that control the media, " and they say, "You're pointing that out. " Because you're

Speaker 6saying

Ian MalcolmWait, wait, hang on. Ben, are you going to discount that the eight media companies that run ninety percent of all media are not run by Jews?

Speaker 6Yeah, but you said that they control the media industry.

Ian MalcolmIf eight companies control ninety plus percent of all media, and those are all run by Jews, is that an unreasonable comment? Yeah, but how did the

Speaker 6other two, how did the other two-- Yeah, but why

Ian Malcolmdon't you open up a media company? Wait, no, no, you're moving the goalposts, kid. Please try to focus. If I can point out that eight people Eight companies that make up ninety plus percent of all media. And I heard you, my answer is

Speaker 6that, that, that obviously if two, if two companies out of ten or eight have, that aren't Jewish, that just shows that it's not media run, anyone could do

Ian Malcolmit. Wait, no, we're gonna try this again, Ben. Eight companies control ninety plus percent of all media. All eight of those companies have Jews at the senior-most positions. That's a whole different

Speaker 6statement, bro. No, it's not the statement that I made at all. That all have non-Jews at those positions.

Ian MalcolmNo, no, the eight companies that I'm talking about that control ninety plus percent of the media all have Jews at the senior most level, even Apple, which are the highest orginal level. You want me to explain

Speaker 6that to you, bro? You want me to explain that to you? It's gonna hurt. No,

Ian MalcolmI don't need you to explain anything. Why are you dodging my question? I'm gonna answer your

Speaker 6question, but it

Ian MalcolmIt is infuriating. You are either intentionally ob- I said I'll answer, it's just gonna

Speaker 6stay no, oh

Ian Malcolmmy god, it's un- So here's the problem. If I asked you what is two plus two, you don't need to give context or color to your answer. You can say two plus two is four. If I say that eight companies run ninety percent of all media, and those eight companies all have Jews at the senior-most level, it is not remotely unreasonable to say Jews control the media. It's not just the media, dude. What do you mean it's not just, we're trying to focus on the media, try not to be schizophrenic, focus on the media, focus on the eight companies that I just described, the ninety plus percent of all media that they control, and the fact that all of them have Jews-

Speaker 6Because it's too

Ian Malcolmdifficult for you. What, what, wait, what is too difficult?

Speaker 6It's too difficult for you to run these things. You need the Jews to do- I'm literally

Ian Malcolmtelling you the things that you're trying to deny and obfuscate.

Speaker 6What are you talking about? You just said You don't. No, you just don't. Who's gonna do it, bro? You're gonna do it. You're gonna run the media companies, bro. You're not smart enough. Okay, so the Jews gonna run the media companies? You understand that this is not smart enough to do it, bro? You need the Jews to do all the hard shit. You need the Jews to do all the hard shit. You're just not capable. Well,

Ian MalcolmI'm literally unwinding a system that is massively suppressed on a platform that massively deboots anything and everything that I suggest and are part of Literally decades, and you're going to try and suggest that we're not accomplishing something successfully, is that right? Well, since- I

Speaker 3don't think you know, since you didn't answer- Since you didn't answer- Yeah, go for it. You're a small-time,

Speaker 6you're a small-time guy. You're not doing it like the Jews. You could run these little small, you're doing a good job. I'm not taking a thing away from you. This is successful, but this is a small-time fry. This isn't- yeah,

Ian Malcolmthat's right Don't have, Jared Kushner's bio, so therefore I'm not launched into the top of a company, that's

Speaker 6right. No, they, they meet, they meet Jared, they meet the guys like Jared Kushner after they build the massive success, not before.

Ian MalcolmYes, because of ne-rampant nepotism that is in-group, preferential treatment and out-group psychopathy.

Speaker 6They're point two percent of the population, it's just because they go hard and they control

Ian Malcolmninety plus percent of the media across only eight companies. That's excluding all of the other ones that they run.

Speaker 6Dude, go do, go start a media company.

Ian MalcolmYeah, so that the US government, like in the case of TikTok, can force the sale over the Jews, is that right? Oh my God,

Speaker 6yeah, yeah, okay, you're, yeah, you're too scared to, yeah, stay on the question. No, do,

Ian Malcolmdo-- So here's the challenge, I want everybody to note this, because this individual, Joanne, this whole thing started because Joanne asked the question, "Why do you think that people dislike Jews?" And rather than just being able to acknowledge that perhaps it has something to do with behavior, we went down this little diatribe. We've now had what you could describe as a debate, 'cause you said you wanted to come in and debate something. And instead, what you've done is you've looked like an absolutely ludicrous individual who is gaslighting everybody by refusing to acknowledge that which we all know to be obvious, while suggesting that these things are then not a byproduct of any kind of undue nepotism, but rather entirely based on skill. And then we go about and we look at Jared Kushner, and you say, "Well, yeah, obviously it was given to him," but, but that's just one, one single example. And you don't recognize that perhaps, again, back to Joanne's original question to you, that it is the behavior that begets people getting really tired of these patterns. And then, for what it's worth, I don't believe in the high IQ notion of the Ashkenazi Jews. You have continuously demonstrated that you are low IQ, incapable of even following Following the conversation, when that is the one thing the Jews are supposedly high IQ at doing. You're supposedly rather terrible at spatial reasoning, at logical processing We saw an inability to do basic math just a couple moments ago. The only thing that you're supposed to be able to do is to weave a conversation together, and in this one, you haven't even been able to follow the bouncing ball that are the questions and the answers. And so then people get really tired of it because in addition to it, you also project this sense of supremacy despite literally being incompetent. And so then everybody would arrive at a conclusion where they just don't want anything to do with you, which is ironic, 'cause one of the first things that you mentioned was the Jews getting- Kicked out of Egypt, inclusive of your family. Perhaps it is that bloodline and the genetics that therefore run through your veins that maybe would also lead to people arriving at a similar conclusion. Now, I don't wanna think that that's the case, that it's purely based on genetics, but that's why Joanne asked, could it be the behavior, which you wanted to, of course, obfuscate because you wanna take no accountability for it. It's wild to witness these things.

Speaker 6That was honestly beautiful, but next time can you make it a little bit shorter? But

Ian Malcolmno, I'll make it as long as I want to, and you know what you're welcome to do is to go create your own room and your own conversation. Enough of you. But guess what's gonna happen, Ben? No one's gonna show up 'cause no one cares what you say. So go be unsuccessful with your spaces, just like the media people, like Disney, are unsuccessful with their companies. Which is why, oh by the way, Grogu in The Mandalorian is getting beat at the box office by a movie that cost ten million dollars to construct. Do you know that the individual, a twenty-year-old director, who was behind that film? That individual, twenty years old, not a Jew, but he's literally beating Disney's latest blockbuster, along with another horror film that cost one million dollars to make. How is Disney doing with Bob Iger, the Jew, at the top of it? Perhaps not all that well, but it doesn't matter at the end of the day, 'cause BlackRock's gonna pour more money into it, because it's not about making a good product, it's not about appointing the most capable person, it's about pushing a narrative, pushing con- And what do you know, at the top of BlackRock, who's one of the biggest owners, if not the biggest owner in Disney, what do you know, it's Larry Fink, another Jew, who I'm sure was also put as the head of the World Economic Forum, not due to Jewish bigotry or bigotry, but because of his incredible skill, the unattractive, bald, kind of rather obnoxious, socially awkward Jew, right? Who, oh by the way, before he went to BlackRock, he referred to his team as Little Israel. I'm sure that That's again just totally coincidental, has nothing to do with bias and bigotry. So again, Ben, thank you for wandering out of the room. You're welcome to play this back on the recording. You once again looked like a fool, which is why you changed your PFP or whatever, so we didn't even notice it was you. 'Cause if it was, I probably wouldn't have let you up, because it just results in these same types of intellectual beat downs. Because frankly, you're low IQ, you're obnoxious, you're boring. So Michael, back to you.

Speaker 3Well, what I was gonna ask, and this is actually kind of open-ended, was two things. One, you know, why is it that they're so entrenched in media? And secondly, like, what have societally they become craftsmen of? You know, I mean, what can we, what can we attribute to, what can we attribute that's been, I don't know, I guess

Speaker 3you know, positive for society as, you know, from a Jewish standpoint,

Ian MalcolmI don't know, Michael, it's a pretty, I don't know, I don't know what kind of question you're asking.

Speaker 3Well, I mean, I could say the same thing about Arabic people or European people, but there's always answers to those questions, right? And they answer them freely. And they defend their take, or they defend their culture, whatever. And

Ian Malcolmwith, with the Jews, it's often LGBT ideology, the nuclear bomb, and the whole mass migration.

Speaker 3Well, it's funny because when you think about this, this idea of being Semitic and the definition of being a Semite, and I've posed this before, and I've been called anti-Semitic for doing it, interestingly enough, is, you know, my last name is Ferris, pronounced commonly in Arabic language is Fares. I mean, it is an Arabic last name. It, it means knight or horseman. It's, it's very Arabic and, Actually, you know, it's Syrian Arabic, that's where my bloodline comes from. Now, I'm a hundred percent wholly American, I'm born and raised here through American systems,

Speaker 3abandoned by an American woman, you know, in the state of Kentucky, and adopted by two very good, you know, European American farmers, Christian farmers, you know, so,

Speaker 3But, you know, I have a lot of physical aspects. You know, some people call me a dirty Muslim because of how I look, and, you know, some people recognize the last name, some people see the beard, some people see the dark complexion, and they say these things. But if I was to trace my bloodline, and just being honest with you, I don't think for Probably, seven decades or more any of my bloodline that are American have ever been to Southwest Asia, except for myself, and that was in defense of the United States Army,

Speaker 3keeping Black Hawk helicopters operable in OEF and OIF. But, you know, if you wanna think about true, To be a true Semite, you know, by definition, I-- hell, I probably am a Semite because of my bloodline. But I, I don't go around, you know, using that as a-- like a victimhood mentality or Victimhood, kind of approach to life saying, "Well, you know, all these people owe me everything. No, I've been grateful for everything that I've gotten,

Speaker 3and, you know, most of which, once I become, about the age of twelve, I've worked for. I mean, I was on Dad's tractor at twelve years old, cutting, baling, and hauling hay with Amish people. So it's like, you know, I've been a working man my whole life and..." I just, I've always wondered how these folks could be-- and I guess it's pretty much just all Jews, I don't know, I, I don't know any of these Jews that I see online with these, you know, twisted hairs down their sideburns and the, the hats or whatever, I've, I've never actually met one in person.

Speaker 3so it's hard to know. I never had a real conversation with any- I guess you would call, what do they call them? were they're ethnic or what's the other word they call- The Orthodox

Ian MalcolmJudaism, the, the Talmudic Judaism, the, the, the, the favorite variant are the ones that look like they're wearing a giant, furry, black marshmallow on top of their head.

Speaker 3Right, I've never met any of those people in person, so-

Ian MalcolmYou would know if you had 'cause it'd be a really big hat.

Speaker 3Oh, no, I, I know that, I'm just saying I never have because- I, I mean, look, I've been to New York and, yeah, I used to work in Laguardia a lot on, on commercial aviation aircraft there when we set up bases and such for Republic, when I worked for them for a small period of time from twenty eighteen to-- or sorry, from twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. But I, I never even seen them there. I mean, and, and this Jewish thing was never really- In my opinion, much of a topic of conversation, except for what seems to be about the last twenty-four months.

Speaker 3so, I don't know, it, it intrigues me how they can be so much a victim, right? Other than this, quote-unquote, post-World War II ideology, when there's so much through time

Speaker 3and history that shows us That the behavior of this one type of people have, have warranted whatever treatment they're getting, and it, it goes, it goes in waves or comes in waves, right? Where it's, you know, they, they try to take over something and then they get kicked out, or they try to go and use people for this or that, and so they get kicked out and run out and all this.

Speaker 3I don't know, it's just weird to me because- Well, when you think about history, it's only as good as it is true. So you want to know that when you, I guess, are understanding or calling information to be fact, that it is in, in, in fact, the truth, right? So, I mean, I've seen both sides of this coin. I, I'm not so much, I wouldn't call myself a Jew hater. What I would say is I've had questions, and the way that they've responded has slowly leaned me towards not liking them. If that makes any sense. And so it's kind of like, okay, well, I guess... That's the

Ian Malcolmmost diplomatic explanation I've ever heard, Michael.

Speaker 3Well, I'm just saying, like, because I have no real interaction with them. But, but if I'm having that feeling, and I'm a very accepting guy, like- You know, I, I am very loving and friendly and kind to just everybody, until they give me a reason not to like them. And if, if, if there's a trend that I'm not liking these people because they can't have honest conversation about what it is that irks them or offends them or causes them to think that I owe them anything.

Speaker 3Then the truth becomes my experience, and if my experience is what I'm hearing, well, then it's got to be true, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd Michael, the, the-- That's that's-- One of the things that, David Nietzsche, I've heard him state, and, and it's, it, it really does put it into perspective. He suggests all the time, "What if, if, if, if you were an alien group of people in a foreign land, and in this case, let's just presume, so an American in China?" Right? You're wandering around in China and you're, you're a white American, and, this Chinese guy comes up to you and, and in this fictional world, he's like, "Hey, is it weird that all of the Chinese media companies are owned by white American people?" Right? And then you look and you're like, "Wow, they, they actually are." And then this Chinese guy is like, "Well, is it also weird that all of the cinema it mocks the Chinese people and it lifts up the white people and black people and makes them look wonderful while being..." let's say either discriminatory or demoralizing to the Chinese people, right? And if, if in this fictional world, perhaps you and I are there, we would say, "Well, I guess they do control those, and look, that-- I guess that media is demoralizing," right? And an honest person would look at that and would say, "Yeah, that, that is happening, and that does seem wrong." And then we have the opportunities to discuss these things with Jews, and what do they do? "No, that's not happening." And then I say- I can prove that to you very easily, 'cause I've done all the nerdy homework to be able to, to make that case. And then what is the next suggestion? Oh, well, it's not a big deal. Well, actually, no, it is a big deal, because it is demoralizing to our people. It mocks them, it pushes clearly subversive propaganda. And then the next, the next comment, well, that's just 'cause you're not good enough to do it. Right? Then the gaslighting. It's, so again, imagine that we were And this Chinese guy comes up feeling really low and down. Yeah, the media sucks, they're just making fun of us all the time, and look, it's run by these white people, and you and I are like, "No, it's not." And the Chinese guy's like, "Well, here's the data." "Ah, well, it doesn't matter." And he's like, "Well, look at the media, it's all demoralizing." "No, it's not." And then he looks at us and then we, and then we call

Speaker 3him racist in his own country.

Ian MalcolmYeah, and then he looks at us and he's like, "Well, no, it is demoralizing. I did just prove it to you. You wanna, you wanna negate both of that." And then we both look at the Chinese guy and we go, "Yeah, we'll just get better. Do better. Be better." And then that won't be the case. And then what do the Chinese people say? They're like, "You need to leave." And we're like, " Just unwillingness to be honest, to accept the reality of the world, to describe that that reality might be detrimental, and then when caught lying about all those things, it is just this bewildering presumption that in the theoretical or hypothetical that I presented, oh, the Chinese only dislike us because we're just better than them, right? With completely discounting the entire engagement that just happened. It's, it's-- and, and Michael, the craziest part is to your Your point. This isn't a one-off. I mean, and, and there are, there are some Jews on this app that I, I frankly enjoy debating these topics with. I think Yitz is, I'm, I'm surprised he's not here for what it's worth. He chases Joanne around like Borat does Pamela Anderson. Pamela, I love you, but, right? But I'll, I'll talk to Yitz all day long. I, I, I find him rather enjoyable. But,

Ian Malcolmin my experience anyway, ninety plus percent of Jews will Well then gaslight, and then they will presume that the only reason you're discussing these things is because you hate them. And it's like, I don't hate anybody, to your point, Michael. I just wanna be able to honestly address the problems in society, and if that is perceived by the people that control everything as being hateful towards them, 'cause I merely wanna discuss them, well then that tells us something about how oppressive those people are that are in control.

Speaker 3Yeah, I agree. And like you made a good point where, you know, I, I just wanna get to the solution of a problem. And, you know, I've even had, you know, guys that work for me, some of my best guys, you know, and they have off days or off weeks or whatever. They start messing up, you know, people come to me and say, "Hey,

Speaker 3well, this is wrong. Okay, well, who did it last? That guy. Huh? Well, that seems odd. Usually he don't do that. Okay, well, another little bit goes by, well, this is off. Well, who did that? Well, that guy. Hey, man, get in here. You know, like, what's going on with you? Oh, well, you know, I got this and that. Okay, well, how about you go home for a

Speaker 3Get you to come back and, and be a good craftsman. I don't want you putting my helicopters back together like, you know, like the birdhouses, you know? So, yeah, you, you, you have a conversation with that person who's, not on the up and up. And, and look, it's- it's never about bashing these men that are with me, it's more like, hey, you know, you can't be perfect all the time, everybody understands that, but we gotta make sure that when we're in here, we have integrity and we're using that properly.

Speaker 3and not that, you know, anybody's doing it belligerently, but if he's, if he's having some other stuff going on, his mind's not in his work. You know, it's easy to get sidetracked. These are very meticulous things we do. So, and it's not like, it's not like in framing houses or, or, you know, doing landscaping where you can be off quarter, you know, eighth quarter, three eighths of an inch, and these, but it's like we're working with thousands of an inch here, you know? So,

Speaker 3Yeah, there's been times I've had to tell the, the people I love the dearest, "Hey, you're not, you're not where you need to be." and they, they accept that because they're like, "Well, I know this guy, and I trust this guy, and he's not coming at me because he's wanting to be an asshole to me. He's not coming at me because he dislikes me. He's doing this 'cause he genuinely cares about me, and he wants to make sure that I'm still here tomorrow, and that whoever gets in this helicopter

Speaker 3I don't know why they can't accept when, you know, you say, "Hey, this is wrong," they can't just go, "Oh, yeah, you know, that's a good idea. It is wrong. We should probably try to fix that."

@joann_marieYou know? They literally see us as cattle, Michael. And we have a couple of hands, so guys, please repost this page and follow Ian and Michael, and our amazing, amazing speakers, and thank you so much for being here. And also, if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. and,

Ian Malcolmand real quick, Joanne, just speaking of, cordial conversation and Jews, I just want to call out, and I know this is a strange move for me to make, but I want to thank Nikita Bier, for replying to my post on the removal of followers. he has not stated whether or not he will join our X space tomorrow on this topic. I, I presume that that probably is out of the cards, which is actually reasonable for him, given that there's I, I'm sure some corporate and, prospectively even legal entanglements that he could step into by trying to discuss those topics with us in a live format, but I, I wanna give him credit right where it is due. I always try to be as fair as I can, and on many occasions he's replied to things in a fashion that I find somewhat reasonable. So kudos to him, a busy guy, and, and so I, I, I wanted to give thanks again where, where it is, it, it is worthwhile. now that being said, we've got the, the Wafer, I think, down there. I hope I'm pronouncing that properly. if he wants to jump in, then we'll go to Andy and then kind of bounce around with some of these other speakers.

Speaker 7yeah, I'm, I'm happy that I'm about twenty minutes too late on that. this is in reference to, you know, you talking to this Ben guy, this Benji, about the Talmud. Well, again, you can see in the purple pill, I posted A year ago, probably over a year ago, about what the Talmud says about us gentiles. So anybody who wants to know,

Speaker 7just what their, the Jewish Judaic holy book says about gentiles and Goyim, go ahead and take a look at that in my post. Other than that, Ian, you can take me off speaker. Thank you very much.

@joann_marieThank you so much. I can send you a couple more, but be careful with posting them because they will take them down. But, I, the, I, Goifath made a really cool compilation that, that it can help you as well. I'll post it and then you copy it and then I'll delete it because it will, it will literally get me suspended. But, yeah. Okay.

@joann_marieAndy, go for it. Yeah,

@froemelandyso someone in one of my comments, the post about Zach Land, they're like, "So those are your two issues, and you're gonna not support people that take money from that lobby, referring to APAC, or support data centers." And I'm like, "Well, and like, those are two issues that I think should be important. Like, I mean, if you're taking money from APAC and support data centers, then I mean, you probably shouldn't be voting for a candidate that does both of those things. I mean,

@froemelandycontroversial of a take for people. Like, I mean, if you support, if you're pro-genocide and you support data centers that wanna destroy our Raise energy prices and destroy our water and spy on us, then, I mean, yeah, you probably aren't worthy of our vote. I don't think that's controversial. And yeah, it is interesting in going back to these people coming in our spaces, like it's just crazy how, like, they just keep coming up and it's like, they know they're losing the argument and they're just playing games to dis-deraile the space when they're like, "No, they don't control the media." And it's like, okay, what do you call Larry Ellison, who owns TikTok

@froemelandyParamount Studio, Paramount Skydance, HBO now, and it's like he literally, that's like literally at least half the media, probably more, and that's, that's, that's the whole- Sky, Skydance alone with

Ian MalcolmParamount and Warner Brothers is, is at least a third of it. Exactly. In and of itself, which is wild. And that, and that's, that's, David Ellison, whose dad, Larry, owns, hahaha, Oracle and TikTok, right?

@froemelandyExactly. But- And Paramount- Yes, but they didn't allow,

@froemelandySpirit and, JetBlue to merge, which would have only been nine percent of the airline industry and would have been only the fourth largest airline in America, because Elizabeth Warren started complaining and said that would be an illegal monopoly and hurt competitiveness, and they said, Nope, nine percent, fourth, becoming the fourth largest airline, that would be an illegal monopoly, but an actual illegal monopoly by every objective measure. Like, if, even if this was Anadu doing this, any per- I still would have issues with that. I'd be like, "This is an illegal monopoly. Like, why are we letting one person have this much power? I don't trust any person to have that much power, and because power corrupts regardless of who's doing it. I don't trust-- There's no person on this planet that I trust with that much power. It's completely insane that-- But of course, almost no one speaks up against it because they're bought and paid for. Like, obviously we were speaking up against it. Fuentes spoke up against it on his show, but outside of like us, Fuentes and some influencers on X, I don't know who's-- I mean, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren did their resistance, they spoke up against it, and outside of that, I don't really know how many people spoke up against it because almost it's complete, because, I mean, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, they spoke up against it not because they're anti-Jewish supremacists, but because that's their anti-monopoly in general, so like that's their whole shtick. But yeah, it's completely,

@froemelandyridiculous how that just happens and most people don't even know that there's an illegal media monopoly, not even from the Jewish perspective, but just in general, that one guy owns half of our media. Like, it's insane that this is just happened and like nobody even knows about it. It's, it's wild, like... Whether he was a Trump donor or not, whether he's a liberal, it doesn't matter. Like, the fact that this happened, like, that no judges stepped in, like, it's-- like, our judges are literally bought and paid for to clearly that this was allowed to happen.

Speaker 3Yeah, man, look, my, my entire campaign, one of the reasons I entered this Senate race, man, is 'cause honestly- You know, I did some pro se cases over the forced, masking and transporta- air transportation, right? The FTMM. So I filed one against the TSA, they immediately put me on, the watch list two days after that filing in the Sixth Circuit.

Speaker 3and for anyone who's listening doesn't understand what pro se is, that just means without a lawyer, it means I represented myself. And so I didn't lose that case, but it's basically because there was a funky law about- You know, where there's, where there's two separate cases that kind of argue similarities, you know, wherever the first filed, you know, those cases must be transferred to. And in this case with the TSA, there was a guy in, DC who filed like a couple months before I did, so it, it was automatically transferred from the sixth circuit to the DC circuit. Liberal judges there shot it down on his lawsuit, not necessarily my merits or lawsuit. And so then we went after the CDC and the five major airlines who denied,

Speaker 3the service without a mask.

Speaker 3That one currently has about a hundred and eighty docket entries. And we did pass a motion to dismiss. It's one of the hardest things to do as a pro se litigant in a federal, federal court, room, but we did it. And we had hit 'em with like thirty-seven counts, from state law to constitutional law violation to tort law claims, and even some crazy ones like,

Speaker 3false advertisement, you know? And,

Speaker 3What was the other one? Was like, misrepresentation of law, which those really aren't things you can hit people with in a courtroom on the federal level, but it was worth, you know, trying to see what would stick, you know, two, two of those thirty-seven is what passed, and one of 'em was a rehabilitation act, and the other one was, actually a California state law called the Unruh Act, and so- The Rehabilitation Act, we got him on because they took that CARES funding or, or the pay-paycheck protection funding, which, you know, anytime like the airlines take federal funding,

Speaker 3which is, you know, taxpayer bailout money Yeah, they, they kinda have to sign this, you know, memorandum of understanding or this policy that states that they won't, you know, discriminate against people, you know, whether it be for color, religion, sex, you know, disability, whatever. And because, you know, I had a legitimate doctor's exemption from wearing the mask

Speaker 3for them to refuse me to board that airplane without illness, you know, showing no signs of COVID, but with an actual dis-disability letter, they broke the law. And that would warrant the policy change, right? Which would, you know, kind of target the ACAA, which is the Air Carrier Access Act, or, you know, for lack of better terms, 14 CFR 382.

Speaker 3the California Unruh Act is another, civil rights, law that basically says, inside the borders of California, no business will discriminate against anybody anywhere for anything. And so even though it's a California state law you know, the judge in Louisville, Kentucky would still have jurisdiction because A, the company did business and made money in this state, and of course, I was a resident in Kentucky. And the law basically states that if, as long as you're within the borders of California, whether you're a resident or not, they can be tried for their crimes. And so recently That judge has tried to close that case, and we filed basically a motion, for leave to amend the complaint to give that judge whatever it was he wanted to see, right? Or, or read per se, basically minimizing the, hundred and eighty-some odd page complaint down to about fifteen so he can see the laws more clearly.

Speaker 3And so when I'm doing this You know, I'm having to research a lot of law, just the judicial system as a whole, the, the, the jargon that someone had talked about earlier, in the same sense of trying to, you know, jump into an election without connection, money, name recognition, et cetera. And, and I realized just, just how many laws, like I said earlier, where you have, you know, the more num- numerous laws, the more tyrannical the government. And I kind of was like, okay, how do I-

Speaker 3What would be an approach to go in and fix our problems, you know, in a nutshell? And I look to just federal judges, where, where they come from, how they get where they're going, how long they stay, whatever. Well, obviously the-- these federal judges are appointed by the president under, the Judiciary Act of seventeen,

Speaker 3what is it? 1791 or, or something like that, and then the, other one that created the Court of Appeals outside of, the federal judges. So that's, you know, the Court of Appeals being, the three judge panels that are at the federal level as well, them being created out of an act in the eight-- late 1800s. The Constitution clearly protects,

Speaker 3justices at the Supreme Court level, but it doesn't really protect other than language that legislators tied to the federal judiciary and the Court of Appeals judiciary through those two separate acts, which were created much later than our founding documents, and the reason is because obviously As, you know, we expanded as a nation, there became more controversy over a lot of things, and the Supreme Court just got pretty well backed up. And so they had to create all these other judi-judiciary bodies to take care of all these problems, and then, you know, create a conduit to the Supreme Court if needed, if it were to take, need to be taken up at that place. So Alright, US Senate is the one who confirms or denies those presidential appointments, and they also are the jury on, on, impeachment trials. So i-i-in my regard, I was looking at it thinking, okay How do you judge the judges? You know, and the Senate body is where that happens. Now, the US House of Representatives has that sole power of drafting those articles, but once that impeachment process has passed through the House, then the Senate obviously has the ability to judge those judges. So that's, for me, was one of the large motivating factors. And

Speaker 3So that's what I ran on was this idea of getting rid of these rogue judges, right? These, these judges that don't opine constitutionally and basically all these cases end up being opined on based on case law You know, it, it no longer has anything to do with actual law, the Constitution, any of that. It's like, here's this case that's kinda like this one from the nineteen sixties, and this judge said this about that case, so in that case, this case law says that, you know, he can't argue this, that, or the other, right? And then a judge just reads that and goes, "Well..." I guess if a judge over there said it, then it must be good, because this lawyer knows more than me, because, you know, he's studying law. So it's, it's kind of shitty in the sense that these judges really don't even know law themselves, you know? They really don't. And, and sitting in these,

Speaker 3briefings and hearings and depositions and such, you, you find it out quickly because you'll have the judge on, on many occasions, they'll ask Like the defense attorney for the airlines, they would say, "Well, you know, in the fourteen CFR three D two point two five, what does this language mean?" It's like, "Bro, you're sitting here on a trial as a judge, and you've had eight months to read these laws and figure out what they meant, and, and why the legislation passed them. Legislators passed the law."

Speaker 3Why are you asking the defense attorney for the airlines what the fucking law means? You know, so it's, it, it's just lock, stock, and barrel. I think Andy, you said it clearly, these judges are a problem. And we ran largely on getting rid of those. I mean, the, the, the J was for judicial reform, and under judicial reform was holding those judges accountable to, impeachment, you know?

@froemelandyNo, and just think about this, there's two types of judges that are a problem. You have the ones that are obviously protecting like these corporate mergers, like with Larry Ellison, then you obviously have the other judges that are protecting criminals, but at the end of the day, they're both working for the jew. Because like it's the leftist Soros, let's protect the criminals, and obviously Trump is in on that as well because the two different types of Jews are all working together. Let's, the Jews on the left work together with the Jews on the right. If Trump was actually serious about dismantling these left-wing organizations, he'd do it, but we know he's not serious. He didn't do anything about BLM in twenty twenty. He's been screaming about Antifa for ten years, but he hasn't arrested one person funding Antifa. And it's all a frickin' LARP. You have the Republicans, influences saying, "Oh my God, Antifa, okay, why haven't you brought Soros in for questioning? Why haven't you brought Reid Hoffman or any of these people? Because it's all funded by Jews. So we can put them on the record and do a Twitter

Speaker 6post."

@froemelandyHe'd re- he's gonna place, Tucker and Nick Fuentes and Hasan Fikar on the domestic terrorist list, but he's never gonna go after the people. Like, don't get me wrong, I have no love for Hasan Fikar, but he's not gonna go after, I don't know, someone like Hoffman or Soros who's actually funding street terrorism. He's gonna go after- But you see, he did nothing

Speaker 8but he did do something.

@froemelandyYeah, well, I mean, he's not actually gonna throw Hassan Piker. I think this is all just, Hassan Piker is just a distraction, I think, to pit him and Nick Fuentes against each other. So you have the far right and the far left going at each other instead of, say, combating the Nat-National Defense Authorization Act that wants to merge our militaries. And the timing of that, right before that bill is circulating, when you typically would have the most pushback against that would be coming from the far right In the far left, instead, you have the far right and the far left fighting about Hasan Pieter and Nick Fuentes and calling each other agents, although let's not get it twisted, I think Hasan Pieter is definitely some type of agent, the fact that he's still allowed to be on Twitch despite repeatedly having called for violence. I mean, he's-- the fact he still has a mainstream platform, he definitely is some type of operative of some sort. I mean, he literally incites violence And hasn't been deplatformed, so I'd say Hassan is definitely an operative, which is why, in all this fake investigation Tim has done, is amplify him. So this is clearly whoever his handler is instructing Trump like, "Hey, say you're gonna investigate him," and they're trying to make Hassan Piker big, bigger, so then they can say, "Oh my God, look at this Hassan Piker, the radical left is bad," and then that's gonna rally the right, I guess, to try to use this threat of Hassan Piker From the radical left to get Republicans to vote for Trump, get dissatisfied Republicans who are done with Trump to vote Republican in the midterms because of the fear of the radical left. They think that's what all of this is, it's to use Hassan as a scare tactic to get us to vote for some zogged out Republican, and it ain't happening. I ain't voting for no zogged out Republican just because I don't like Hassan Piker. That's what this whole psyop with him seems to be about. I can hate Hassan Piker and I can hate Zog too.

Speaker 8Any, any chance I could ask, Ian a question?

@joann_marieYeah, go for it, Stanley.

Speaker 8Some other shit. Okay, Ian, if you're there, what is your niche and why do you think people follow you? That is the question I wanna ask you.

Ian MalcolmI, I think my niche, and, I see Mike will drop down, I'll, I'll see if we can get him back up here. what is my niche? I, I think it's being honest. it's being honest, it's being accurate, it's being data-driven, and doing so in a world, where lies are normalized, truth is not only obscured and obfuscated, but is condemned and criticized. and those that are willing to speak it are demoralized, largely into silence. And so instead,

Ian MalcolmThis is what it is, whether that's about the genders, about the races, about disproportionate control held by certain groups of people, whether it's criticism of a foreign nation state that's openly conducting a genocide and told us it wasn't happening, said we were antisemites for suggesting it was, right? And then clearly censored those that were critical of it. And I think there's a lot of people that are very enthused to see someone that is confidently and competently calling the world The way that it actually is, that we've been demoralized into pretending that it isn't, and there's very few people that do it because doing that doesn't matter, again, if it's about the genders, you're, you're gonna be labeled chauvinistic, right? If it's about the races, you're a racist. If it's about mass migration, you're xenophobic. If it's about Jews, you're an antisemite. If it's about fat people, then you're fat shaming, right? And instead of just like, no,

Ian Malcolmbe Be proud of your people, your civilization, and don't be in support of those that lie and demoralize you. And, so I think that's, that's my niche. It's not, it's not about protecting any gender, any race, any sexuality, any religion. It's about defending civilization from that which is clearly trying to enslave everybody.

Speaker 8Excellent. Thank you for taking my question. I'm not sure how much longer I can stick around for the low IQ rambling of, of, some of your guys here, so I'm gonna take off, and I appreciate you answering my question.

@joann_marieThank you, Diana. I mean, besides Ben, I think it has been pretty high IQ all the time. Thank you so much for coming up. Nausus, welcome. How are you?

Speaker 9Hey, Joanne, Ian, Michael, nice to meet you. Andy, always a pleasure. thanks for letting me come up, Ian. I kinda just wanted to-- I know we're a little bit far detached from it, but, just on the topic of, our buddy Ben there, I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but this is one of those moments where I feel compelled to just call it out. There's a Russian proverb that I've-- I don't actually know if it's Russian, but people on Twitter claim that it's a Russian proverb where they say that a Jew will always tell you what happened to them, but never why, right? And you'll notice that Ben led with this story that- He comes from an Egyptian family and that they were expelled from Egypt some fifty-something years ago or whatever, right? What he didn't tell you was why were, was, Gamal Abdel Nasser expelling Jews? What was happening in the backdrop that would, force his family to come to, you know, lovely America, New Jersey, obviously very privileged if they could just go from Egypt to New Jersey? What was happening? 1956, the Suez Canal crisis.

Speaker 9Castles Beli, Israel, 1967, the Six Day War, what happened during that, engagement, the USS Liberty, right? So these guys won't ever be honest with you in the, in the- The La Vona,

@joann_marieLa Vona affair is pretty crazy. And the La

Speaker 9Vona affair, all these things, right? The, the, the, like, and it's, it's like every time one of these people- Like anytime I have to listen to one of these people in a, in a space like this, what I'm always perplexed by, because it's, it's-- I've never encountered this in, in, you know, my thirty-five years of living. It's, I've never come across people where they all Think the same way. It's like they, it's like watching somebody play, play like a sport with the same technique or something, and it's like watching the same player over and over again, and the structure of their arguments and the way that they enter into discussions, the framing that they use, the deceptive framing, it's, it's, it's mind-boggling. It's mind-boggling. So like I don't know, just, good on you, Ian, for,

Speaker 9for, telling that guy exactly how it is. and what these guys like, you know, the, the thing I, I always like Keep in the back of my mind, and I know that a lot of people kind of share this outlook, but it actually doesn't give me, and I don't think it gives anybody else in this space, like, any pleasure to actually oppose these people. Like, nobody's in it just because we wanna fight Jews. It's like, we would actually-- I think my preference is that they would just act like normal human beings and not be so fucking diabolical all the time. So, you know?

Speaker 9Just, I had to, I had to drop that in there 'cause I was like, "Dude, this guy's totally gonna get away with this."

Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, not, not in these rooms. We don't, we don't tolerate gaslighting and lies. We, we push back pretty directly on that.

Speaker 9Yeah, good on you, man. Thanks for, thanks for letting me come up. Be hanging out.

Ian MalcolmNo, of course, and, and, and, speaking of calling balls and strikes as I see them, I, I got to give, man, this is twice in one room, I'm gonna do it. I gotta give Nikita Bier, I'll, I'll put this one up into the, into the nest. I gotta give him some credit because in addition to responding to the posts that I made about, the strange abnormalities with the algorithm,

Ian MalcolmDr. Davinsky, I've seen this guy in spaces, man, this, he, But Nikita, in Malcolm's pin tweet is literally anti-Jewish, hates Jews. Now, my pin tweet is, since he wants to use the term literally, it is literally statistics. It is accurate statistics on the world, so much so that Rock and X, they weren't able to community note any of the statistics that I put in because they were all accurate and factual, but nonetheless it was marked as hateful and blocked all across most of Europe, which is very strange. Now, Dr. Davinsky, this just zero, he puts it up, and Kita Bier responds to him, as a Jew, I help people on this app who disparage me every day. X stands for free speech, even if it's hurtful. Now, I don't think my pin tweet is hurtful. I think it's actually factual, but nonetheless, for him to say that, I'm, I'm gonna give kudos and, and credit. I, I, I would welcome him to the conversation that we're going to have tomorrow. And look, we can, we can have qualms about whether or not, X embodies the statement that he has made, right? And I, I certainly would suggest that there's all kinds of suppression and antics on this application, but it's also reasonable to suggest that Nikita Bier is a cog in a big wheel that as a whole A whole lot of momentum behind it that ensures the suppression that we all discuss is enforced not only here, but on all social media. And for what it's worth, X does let me say things on here that none of the other, social media platforms would allow for. So I've gotta give credit to Elon Musk and Nikita Bier, who runs the platform for both the, opportunity to be in this public forum as suppressed as we might be, and for that comment. Right? Because, he's putting that out there, and that says something, especially in the face of a guy that Nikia, yeah, that is mean. It's just so funny. But, Joanne, let's, let's go back to you and, and, make our way through some of the other hands here, if, anybody else wants to comment before we wind things down.

@joann_marieI don't see any more hands, but it's been such a great space, Ian. Oh, Andy put it up. And yeah, no, I've learned so much, and I hope more, more people learn from Michael so that if they want to become politicians, they know how to do it. So, yeah, go for it, Andy.

@froemelandyYeah, I'm finishing up a post cooking Jesse Waters because he posted four Republicans betrayed the party with the, Iran War Resolution, so I'm finishing up cooking him by saying, "You mean they betrayed the Fox News audience, which is ninety percent ages fifty-five and up," so I'm just about to post that and then you can all share it. And he's like, "Breaking: Congress voted to end the Iran War. Four Republicans betrayed the party." So I'm gonna say Jesse Waters means that Fox, means that the Fox News audience which-

@froemelandyIs ninety percent ages fifty-five and up who supports the war feels betrayed, because that's who he's referring to, and that's not representative of this Republican Party. There's people that don't watch Fox News, like all of us in this space, who don't support this war, and it's just absolutely comical. Like, no, Trump betrayed the Republican Party in with supporting this war, and people are brainwashed, and like, you just have to go back to over the summer when Charlie Kirk ran the poll, and it was Ninety percent were against the US joining the Israel Iran war during the twelve day war, and now you have thirty five to thirty eight percent that still support this war just because Trump said so. So it just shows you that tw-- about twenty eight percent of this country can't think for themselves clearly because they went from not supporting a war to nine months later supporting a war because Trump told them to. It's absolutely insane if you think about it, and that's just on the Republican side. How many people on the Democrat side would support a war if Kamala said, "We need to bomb Iran to free the women and free the gay people," half the Democrats would support a war if Kamala told them to for that reason. So it's just absolutely insane how so few people in this country can think for themselves, and if their leader tells them to do something, they'll, they'll just do it without even thinking, and that's what the problem is. Like, yeah, we elect leaders to represent us, but it doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say. Like, yeah Yeah, I'm happy Trump closed the border and we don't have twenty million illegals coming in, but that's literally the one thing he did do. And sure, I guess no tax on tips is cool, but that doesn't outweigh covering up, covering for pedophiles, going to war,

@froemelandyand destroying our economy. Absolutely not. That doesn't- Outweigh him completely betraying us, but a lot of MAGA is like, "Well, under Kamala, we'd have illegals, so I'm okay with all of this." Like, this lesser of two evils logic needs to completely stop. It's completely ridiculous.

Ian MalcolmNo, well stated there, Andy, as always. And, and Michael, I'm glad that you got to connect with Andy. I, I feel like one of the things that we need to do, and, and I, I mentioned this to Tyler Dykes, to Casey, that, that we really should try to band together as best we can at least once a month to bring a lot of sincerely America First candidates into, single forums, right? So you can kind of piggyback off one another's ideas, momentum, right? And, and to Individuals like Andy that are really z-zoned in with the younger audience, people like Gen Z Patriot, right? to get him into these conversations so that you can understand kind of the, the bend of the, the Groypur movement, right? whatever we can do to tap into some of those different audiences,

Ian MalcolmI, I, I think it'll be of monumental value and benefit for everybody, and just kind of continue providing, let's say, what is it, the rising, tide, incoming tide rises all ships kind of situation. but that being said, I, I know we also had, Gentile Identitarian, who I really enjoyed some of the thoughts from, in yesterday's space or the one before. wanted to check in with you before we go back to Michael for some, final partying remarks here.

Speaker 5yeah, hello, Ian, thank you for, thank you for having me up here. I, I wanted to ask Mr. Ferris. That's, Interesting last name you got there. Is that, is that Lebanese or is that the, is that, would that just be the Scottish spelling of, Ferris, like with the E and the two R's, like Ferris Bueller? Or would that be Ferris, like the,

Speaker 5Lebanese last name. I was just a little curious.

Speaker 3Yeah, it's, it's Ferris as, as actually Syrian Arabic descent is what it is, but, the Scottish, version is A double R E double R, so there's not many of the single R that's, you know, Ferris, which is nominally pronounced "Faris."

Speaker 5That means, that means knight, doesn't it?

Speaker 3Yeah, knight or horseman, yeah.

@joann_marieFerris Bueller is such a great movie. I wish they made movies like that. But I'm, I'm happy that you're Lebanese, I mean Syrian. Jeanne and I are both Arabs, so.

Speaker 3Yeah, I, I haven't been, really connected with, hold on, my son's asking me a question. What is it, buddy? It's watered down, but yeah. Whole some,

Ian Malcolmwhole some, whole some.

Speaker 3so I haven't been, I'll say this, I mean, my grandfather, which is my biological father's dad. He bared a striking resemblance, believe it or not, to, like a Saddam Hussein lineage, it's kind of funny. but he was, he was very much an American guy, he didn't speak the language, you know, he was kind of like, really a functioning alcoholic, I guess if I had to say, just like to fish and drink beer all day.

Speaker 3And, you know, he was part of- What is that, I can't think of the name of that. The Shriners, you know, he did the little go-karts in the parades where they'd, you know, ride 'em with the red caps and the tassel on it and stuff. but I didn't know much about all that. I wasn't ever involved in it. I don't think the, the biological dad was really involved in all that, but for whatever reason the grandpa was, I just, I wasn't ever of age to have much of a conversation with. The grandpa, because my time with him was very limited, I mean, I think I had went fishing with him a handful of times, anywhere from the age of, you know, eight till eleven years old, you know? So I wasn't just at an age to really discuss what I wish I would have talked about at this age, like, "Hey, why were you involved in that? What does it all mean?" You know, "What did it mean to you?"

Speaker 3what exactly is your direct connection to, you know, Ferris' last name? You know, there's been, I guess tales that I've heard from the biological father about how there were seven Ferris brothers, you know, kind of like a cliche story of how they came to America, settled and split, and a couple of 'em ended up in, you know, Louisville, Kentucky, and kind of hung around there for, you know, several,

Speaker 3Decades, you know, having children or, moving to Indiana, kind of things like that, Southern Indiana. But I don't really-- I mean, I still have an aunt, two uncles, and, let's see, I think that's all that's left of the eight children. So my biological dad was, was one of eight, I know. So my grandpa's name was James Albert Ferris, that's where my middle name is from, the James part.

Speaker 3my biological dad's name was Mark, Douglas Ferris. Then there was Rita, Mona, Cindy, Stuart, Rick, and Anton, who was Tony. Funny enough, Tony looked a lot like Robert De Niro, kind of interesting. But the grandmother was Italian, you know, her- Anita Ferris, she was the Italian breed of that, I guess, De Niro lineage look, so she kind of, I guess, took some of, or he took maybe some of her, you know, kind of physical genetics or characteristics on the Italian side more so,

Speaker 3but, Yeah, it's a very interesting, bloodline. It's a very interesting family. I don't know much past the grandfather, although I wish I did. But you should go.

@joann_marieI think, I think, that it's beautiful over there. Like if you saw-- I, I haven't been to Syria, but I've been to Lebanon and to Palestine, and it's so beautiful, and the people are so welcoming, and, yeah, I mean, connect to your roots as well, right? Yeah. And yeah, the only, the only time I've been

Speaker 3over in the

Speaker 3Kuwait and Iraq, and of course, those were all just, I was a contractor for the army, you know, repairing Blackhawks there under those two campaigns that, you know, went on for twenty years. So, but yeah, I mean, I, I do eventually want to find out more, about what goes on before the Grand Paul, because I think If anyone would know, it would be Cindy. She's still alive, so be nice to have a conversation with her now that I'm, you know, kind of disinvolved in what's going on in politics and just cultures and things like that. But I'm just not as, not as well spooled up as I'd like to be on the, the, the Ferris lineage, you know?

@joann_marieWell, thank you so much for sharing all that. And Ian, do you have your mic open?

@joann_marieI think you clicked, oh no, never mind. I thought, yeah, I don't see the dots. I thought you might be glitching. Yeah, no. Well, it's, it's such a, it's been such a great space, so thank you so much for hosting. Yeah,

Ian Malcolmno, absolutely. And, and Michael, it's been absolute pleasure. And, it, it, a very interesting direction. We got to learn about your campaign. We got to learn about the ins and outs of the campaign process, some of the, the funding that goes into it, some of the That his voter block, in that election, that, that he almost had as many individuals eighteen to twenty-nine show up as those sixty-five plus, that, that is a wild, statement on perhaps the new norm that I, I gotta say, if, if we start to see that all across the country,

Ian Malcolmthere's going to be a pretty dramatic shift in the national discourse, right? Because everybody's been discussing, and I know it's gonna vary from district to district, obviously, that which- Which Dan Bilzerian is, is vying for, you know, is, is certainly going to, to lean in that older demographic. but if, if at a national level, the youth start getting as involved as some of the fan base of Nick Fuentes

Ian Malcolmwould suggest. it's actually very exciting because the one thing I think everybody should be able to get behind, if you're of that younger demographic, and, and Mike, you, you made a wonderful comment, Michael, when you mentioned that the twenty to twenty-nine year olds, right? These individuals largely still in college and a first job, they haven't felt the detriment that the, let's call them thirty to forty-five year olds that have tried to go out real- Really kind of, blaze their own path in this new economy that we find ourselves in with endless globalism and, in many ways, the disenfranchising of what I think is the, the traditional white heterosexual male that in large, cases in Fortune five hundred companies is clearly discriminated against, and we know that because,

Ian Malcolmlet's say policies like the DEI ones pushed by BlackRock are enforcing that on companies, in the Fortune five, five thousand. Right? So we know these things are happening, and as a result, those individuals are very ripe for this messaging. And so the notion that the, the eighteen to forty-five year old voter block might soon become, if not the dominant, at least a substantial force, to be reckoned with, that is very exciting, for those in this kind of America first mindset that are done with globalism. I, I, I made a comment on, Bernie Sanders' post. He was talking about, "Well, USA- And it's such a shame that-- No, Bernie, we're done. We're not giving any more money to any other countries, Israel included. It's all over. America's going to focus on Americans. Isn't that a, a novel idea, Bernie Sanders, also Jewish? Right? We are done with all of that. It's time to focus, to circle the wagons, and to get our own people back on track. And it's no different than in a commercial airline when they tell you, in the event of an emergency, put your gas Gas mask on first, not on your child. Why? Because the-- if you get it on the kid, they can't help you, right? America needs to help itself, needs to put its own gas mask on, its own economy, its own people, and then in doing so, maybe we can get to a point where we can help out other nations, maybe directly and perhaps indirectly by leading with America first politics and with America first economic activity, maybe the rest of the world will take the exact same- Initiative, right? So I do think that we are ultimately, we're in a very good place. The young voter base, very exciting. I see that Gentile put his hand up, so let's go to him really quickly, and then, Michael, we'll go back to you for some partying remarks if you wanna, kinda end the space with, any words of insight, encouragement, or perhaps a prayer.

Speaker 10Yeah. I guess first of all, Ian, I don't remember. How did you-- A question before I end, how did you come across

Ian Malcolmso I, I had come across Michael along with Tyler Dykes and a whole bunch of other America First candidates through some of the connections to Azapac. I think that was actually in the space that we did, I can't remember if it's the one that I hosted or that, Dr. Recktenwald hosted through Azapac before Dan Bilzerian, and so a lot of those, those candidates, that were aligned with that group were in there, and I always, if I, if I see people that I feel like are directly aligned with So I, I put a note, hey, happy to, to talk, to, to platform you, to try and bring attention to your, your insights, efforts, and campaigns, and, and that applies to anybody and everybody, not just left or right, it's essentially anyone that is genuinely America first, I'm happy to do that.

Speaker 10Well, Ian, that's awesome, and, you know, I really appreciate what you're doing here. You're doing the right thing, you're doing what I think. Hopefully, you know, more of these larger accounts will get engaged with because, you know, as we discussed earlier, I think this is gonna-- you, you know, you heard him talk about the eighth front war, I mean, we've gotta win this one too, so,

Speaker 10we have to stay connected with people who are willing to- Dig in, you know, keep fighting forward for that America First, you know, mentality, and just having the courage to say, you know, the obvious thing, whether people get offended by it or not, have these discussions, have these debates, and, you know, let people come on and speak their piece, and, and, you know, of course, always platform candidates who are genuinely in this for what is right and not for what is popular. Or what deals they can make,

Speaker 10or any status, you know? Because I see that a lot in my own industry, you know, guys will-- and it's not, you know, a lot, but there's, they exist where they're willing to sell their integrity for, a little bit of clout or status or, you know, position or whatever, and we, we just gotta stop doing that because You know, that leads to that mentality, like I said earlier, we talk about the Save Act. Well, we gotta start somewhere. Okay, yeah, we've been starting somewhere for too long. Like, now it's time to actually do something about it. And, you know, in a sense, I'm, I'm okay with it, but I, I dislike the fact that I'm this age where I am right now, where I have to be the guy to stand in and do it. But it's, you know, you're looking around and you're saying, okay Well, the young ones aren't actually really in mass doing it, and the older ones definitely aren't doing it. And the only, the only ones I see getting anywhere are these same shills, these same, I don't know, kind of hypocritical, non-integrists people,

Speaker 10that they're just doing these things to I guess find clout, popularity, or climb a ladder, you know, and that's one thing when we talk about my race, even in my own state, where, where, you know, our current legislators in the Kentucky Senate and Kentucky House, are, are currently holding these positions, yet You know, as, as much as they call themselves, near and dear followers of the Thomas Massies of Kentucky or whatever, they wouldn't even set foot in the same room with me to have discussion. There was one or two,

Speaker 10that were, you know, pretty, pretty, I guess you could say cordial and nice and, I don't know, more- Neutral about the whole thing, they didn't endorse any candidates for this position I was in. But what's funny is, all of the candidates that Massey got put in the House and the Senate, every one of them endorsed Daniel Cameron, and it was like, as much as Daniel Cameron is a nice guy, a good Christian man You know, he's, he wasn't, he's not built for the time to have that mental toughness to say no when it would be required. I think he would just do what was required to make a deal, lay low, keep his job, you know, all those things that we see from normal soft Republican, politicians. And I, I think there's a place for Daniel Cameron in our politics Once the politics are fixed, you know, but he's not gonna be a pioneer of,

Speaker 10doing the hard things that, you know, require you to stick your neck out for the integrity versus, what keeps you hidden, and flying under the radar. So, you know, those things like that, I don't understand those, those folks in our own state politics why, why they wouldn't just stay out of it, you know, because they could have very easily just- Not endorsed at all, like Thomas Massie in the very beginning, you know, I, after I'd met him a couple times,

Speaker 10peo- you know, many people had posed the question to him, even here on X, and said, "Hey, will you endorse Ferris?" And he said, "Look, man, I'm just, I'm staying out of it," you know? And it was, I think it was the smart thing for his own race, and I think it was just the right thing to do overall as, as a person, because If you look at like the Trump endorsement, man, I mean, if, if what we've seen in the numbers is actually,

Speaker 10reflective of the amount of, you know, power that comes from just saying, "Oh, this is the guy," from current politicians, we, we just gotta figure out how to step away from that. You know, we can't have, or we don't need to have, these same swamp creatures continually saying that this should be the next swamp creature, whether it's supposed to be their colleague or someone that replaces them. And I'm not saying they don't have the freedom of speech to, you know, vouch for somebody because, you know, that's, that's not right either. But if you think about the way, you know, US laws and regulations and policy are, and especially the FEC, when you talk about running for office, they have so many rules and laws and policy.

Speaker 10I think that if you're going to be a current politician and you're gonna get on video camera using your own face and imagery and clout to endorse someone running for office, there needs to be a disclaimer, some way to tell the American people that you were offered no promises, there were no secrets, there were no deals made for this endorsement, you know, because At least then,

Speaker 10you know, if they say that, and, and, and whether they actually mean it when they say it or not, if they say it, but they go back on, or we find out that was a lie, we have something, something to hold them accountable to, right? In, in the current space where these guys just willy-nilly get on TV and appear with these other candidates, and you know they're- They're swampy candidates, and, and they're, you know, just endorsing these guys anyway. You know, they're doing that to get them that friendly media, to get them on those TV screens, and water down the true,

Speaker 10laymen who are stepping up to represent the people of their states, you know, or their districts, whatever the case may be. So it's, we, we gotta have some real election finance reform in some manner. We gotta have that true judicial reform where we're holding our judiciary accountable, like I said, to those impeachment trials when they,

Speaker 10let, you know, fellas out of power gonna slit the throats of women on trains and things like that. You know, you could constitute that bad behavior all day long. I mean, look, this guy had been to jail fourteen, fifteen times, whatever. You can't have judges doing that. You also can't have judges on the Supreme Court, who can't define what a woman is. That just makes no, absolutely no sense. So we have to be thinking about these things, and we have to run candidates who understand this stuff molecularly, and that they can debate it, and they can articulate it, because I think the era, like you said, Ian, of I think the era of that eighteen to, let's say, forty-five voter who are looking for-- because really, when you think about that age group, they are truly unrepresented. I mean, they really are. There's no one in their age class that exists in politics at all, so they're just underrepresented, you know, or not represented at all. They're just being taxed all their money with no say. In where their money's going, what's going on in those federal houses, because everybody's voting for the TV. So we, we have to find a way to get that age group in these positions, in these,

Speaker 10you know, in this level of understanding of what's going on in government, how to, how to run it, you know, with common sense, you know, with, Christian values and, and good morals and integrity at the helm. To guide us in the decisions that we make, instead of just saying, "Oh, well, that's how poli- that's how it works up here in DC, that's politics, you know." Can't tell you how many times I've been to certain jobs or whatever, they say, "Oh, that's just the way we do it." Okay, well, that's not how we're supposed to be doing it, so let's do it right, right? So that's, we gotta get, we gotta move, you know, switch gears to that style candidate.

Speaker 10Seeking those people out and encouraging our friends and family to do the same thing. And like I said, we will run again. I, I think the position for us is that District 2 against Brett Guthrie. But it's gonna be fluid. I, I may actually wait until Trump is out of office, because I'm gonna watch this governor's race and see how he handles it.

Speaker 10you know, because we, we all thought that he was gonna stay out of the Senate race. He didn't actually endorse until like two and a half weeks before the primary election, which is kind of unheard of, but, you know, he's done some other odd things before. But with, with who is leaving being Mitch McConnell, the, the one guy, the longest standing Senate majority leader.

Speaker 10the one fella who, who has whether seventy percent of the state doesn't like him or not, which is, seems to be the true fact, McConnell has, you know, helped Kentucky, a welfare state, punch well above its weight for many, many years. So, and he did build the Republican Party in Kentucky. This is one of those states where You know, the demographics and, and the age groups and,

Speaker 10all the townships and counties and everything all stayed very democratic for a long time, because, guess what? Daddy said you're a Democrat, boy, so you better not change to a Republican, you know? So it took many, many years for these people to fall out of line with the Democrat Party and register as Republicans. So he did, in fact, build a Republican party.

Speaker 10he did bring the state a buttload of money. And help us punch above our weight. So I, I don't think obviously he should have stayed in that position as long as he did. so therein lies the term limit, right? Do, do we, try to get term limits? And how long is that really gonna take? You know, you're asking these people to

Speaker 10vote themselves out of a job, which is almost impossible. so- Yeah, I'll, I'll kinda quit rambling at that. I just thank you all for being here. I know, you know, a lot of this stuff is boring. throwing your own money and your own time into this, the, the politics is really, it's a daunting task, and it does take a, kind of a unique individual. And, and, and on one side of that coin is the conditioned candidate, which is These are the folks that are coming out of college, who are getting into, like, right now, they're becoming youth chairs in the Republican Party at their county, and they're following along and watching who gets elected, and they're watching how they get elected, and they're watching what they're saying, their mannerisms,

Speaker 10and they're, and they're doing exactly what they've been doing for forty years in this state, maybe longer. They're, they're doing a copycat, right? There's that, there's that coin side of the coin. And then now you see this uprising, the other side of the coin, of people like myself, who've just simply had enough, we're fed up, and we, we wanna make a change, we're willing to sacrifice finances and time, and, you know, we've got good support systems, you know, in our family, not only immediate family, but like, you know, mom and dad, extended family, cousins, aunts, uncles, who are willing to, even though they're not politically involved people

Speaker 10they will listen to the message, they will understand what we're doing, they'll throw on the cap, they'll throw on the shirt, they'll support us, they'll put the magnets on the car, put the yards in the sign, all those things. And they, like, my mother, I put a sign in her yard, first political sign's ever been in her yard for entire life. So it's like,

Speaker 10my mom's 72 years old and- We have to be getting those people, you, you know, 'cause they're still here for a little while, get them involved, tell them what's going on. And my mother is one of those people that, you know, she's been going to, Baptist churches, these, what you call, you know, we, we were raised in what they call a,

Speaker 10oh, shoot. I've lost my train of thought on the, the actual name of the church, but it's, no, Missionary Baptist Church. So very kind of old school preaching. I mean, the, the church we went to when I was younger bathroom was still an outhouse. A-and they're saying that, you know, Israel is God's chosen people, kind of thing, you know? And so when I would have these conversations with her about, "Hey, mom, you know, you gotta start looking at where this, you know, money's coming from, what they're doing with the money, you know, what agendas they're pushing, what are they saying?"

Speaker 10and she's like, "Yeah, I know, but, you know," she wants to have this debate with me about What the Bible says. But what's interesting is, even my mother, God bless her, who reads her Bible very religiously, I don't think she fully understands the words, because obviously the Bible is one of those books that you really have to study hard and, you know, try to put yourself in that era of time and piece the story together. And when the preacher's telling you from the time you're a little gal till you're 72 that- You know, by God, you know, Israel's God's chosen pe-chosen people. You know, she's thinking about this

Speaker 10nation state that the news is talking about and that her pre- you know, preacher's talking about. And I think I've helped her understand where I'm coming from, and I think I've actually helped her understand her Bible a little better too. And I've told her like, "Look, this information is easily accessible, Mom. You've got a cell phone, you've got an iPhone, whatever. You can go and research all this on your own. You know, if you don't understand what some of these words mean, put 'em in here, find out what they meant, you know, get a true meaning, a true understanding of the meaning of this word, and then put it in context of what's being said there." You know, you can't just rely on, you know, Genesis 12 like Ted Cruz said, you know, he joined the US Senate to protect Israel. Are you kidding me? This is an American senator, we can't have people doing that in our, in our government. His job is to protect the rights of the American people, that is it. A government is suited of by and for the people, and especially like Kentucky, one of the very few commonwealths left. So

Speaker 10You know, luckily we, we've had some, advancements with family, with mom, dad, you know, families that are talking to their people and saying the same thing. So it's, it's our chance, it's our time, we gotta do this. We've got to put this information out, we have to have these conversations no matter how tough they are,

Speaker 10and, and make sure that we're in these debates, that we're not just, you know- Nameless bystanders, we are actually leading the horses in the charge, kind of thing. So, thank you all for being here. I know this one was kind of a, a long rant on a closing statement, but, I, I appreciate it wholeheartedly. I think we did get a lot of great support. It seemingly- Came, a little bit there at the end. I mean, it took us four or five months running around looking literally stupid and helpless of like, "Who is this guy?" You know? They, they don't know who you are. You're out there asking these people to vote for you. They, you know, they don't have any idea who you are. That's a tough thing. I mean,

Speaker 10it isn't, but it is. When you think-- I mean, for me, look, I can talk to anybody. I don't have a problem with it. But that It takes unique people to run for office, and I don't care what office it is, you know, that one side is that brushed-polished politician who's been conditioned to be a politician, and the other side is the realist, you know, or the statesman, who's doing it for the right thing. And in this instance, it's like the good guys are kind of finishing last right now. But if we keep the pressure on these people, the good guys are gonna come out on top. So,

Speaker 10we've got to keep putting in, you know, great candidates that are America first. and one of the things, as I talk about uniqueness, I'll end here with this. One of the most things that, one of the most unique things about candidates is They just can't hold a nine to five job. They'd like for me, you know, I might go work for a month, month and a half, and have two months off, and sometimes I can even squeeze out of some of the time that I'm working a month and a half and fly in and out, you know, which is what I did in the Senate campaign.

Speaker 10If you work a nine to five job, hang it up, you can't run for office. It's just not-- I don't mean to, you know, push people away, but this is why, this is why You know, who can run for this office? You have to have time, you have to have a little bit of money, you have to have a family that's willing to run around the state with you or be willing to, you know, not be with you a lot of times, because like for me, when I'm working, I'm away from home. So it's like, when I do come home, if I'm running for Senate or even if I'm gonna run for Congress here in '28.

Speaker 10It's, if they stay at home, it's like I'm not home again anyway, because by the time I'm done politicking, they're in bed, you know, for the next day. So it's, you know, you have to treat it almost like a full-time job. These other guys who, you know, make these large connections with these big donors or this big money that you talked about, Ian,

Speaker 10they're-- they can do it as a full-time job, you know, why? Because the law allows them to From those donations, take a salary not to exceed what they would make in the position they're running for. See, we didn't do that. I didn't take any salary from these donations. This money was spent directly in consumeristic, you know, product and messaging and connection, direct, contact to voters. So,

Speaker 10we didn't get paid a dime to do any of this, where these other political candidates do. And, and those are the stark differences of each side of that coin. So, anyway, for all of you thinking about running for office, think about those things, you know, just understand it's, it is a big sacrifice, no matter how easy you, your mind, you know, for me, I can make the hardest things easy in my mind and go do it, all while the world is looking at you like you're crazy. But you do kinda have to be crazy to be a politician as well, from being honest. So thank you all for your time. I mean, truly, truly appreciate it. I'm inspired by what I'm seeing here and what is, you know, coming down the line. Thank you all.

Ian MalcolmNo, of course. And, and Michael, thank you so much for being here, for, for offering this, the very deep dive into the political world, your campaign experiences, some of the data. And, and like I said, it's a very exciting time, and I, I really believe that old adage that God will only put upon That which he knows that we can muster and handle, and I think that we are here. We are built for the challenge, and so we are going to continue winning. And it's so funny Because all of these signs, they're pointing in our direction. I want everybody to know that, right? Not only the, the winds of this subversion, the awakening to it, right? As, David Nye would say, "The great awakening is upon us. The lies to be told a million times, the truth just once." So we're gonna continue speaking that truth, we're gonna continue breaking open the Overton window, changing the zeitgeist, fixing the culture as best we can, speaking truth to power, and in doing so, making the world a better place for ourselves tomorrow and for those that will follow in our footsteps. I wanna give an immense thank you to Andy, to Isan, to so many others that came up here, especially to Michael Ferris, for again walking us with such expertise through this, this battle Field that is the political landscape and the incomparable co-hostess with the mostest, Miss Joanne, who today both named that tune and also got that it was the king of rock and roll, Sir Elvis Presley, singing Kentucky Rain as we celebrate Michael Ferris coming to us from Kentucky. So lots of love to everybody wherever you are in the world, of course, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, God bless for everything that you- You are God's speed. We are going to continue winning. And speaking of continuing, I know that Mr. Truth Tower is gonna be opening his space not too long from now. I hope to see everybody in there, always supporting the wonderful work he does, as we will all of you. So if there's anything that you would like to cover in a space, always feel free send me a note. It can be about whatever it is that you find passion for, on the cultural scene, the political scene, the geopolitical scene, or any of these other topics. If it's meaningful to you, it's Me, I think I'll be meaningful to everyone else. So let's continue loving one another, loving our civilization, loving the concept of morality, and the high trust society that we're building for everybody tomorrow. So again, God bless, Godspeed. We'll see you all tomorrow to discuss the algorithm with the one and only shadow of Ezra and a whole bunch of other technologists, and we'll see if Nikita Vier might take me up on my offer to join our conversation. We'll see if we see him there. I hope to see you all All of you in that conversation, and if not, wish you all the best of today's and of tomorrow's.