Race Realism & Black America with @AndreWilliamsUS & @MyronGainesX

1:35Ian MalcolmAll right, the man in the mirror, the myth man, the legend, Michael Jackson, and, not such legendary programmers apparently over at X We'll hopefully get this back on track, if, if people wouldn't mind sharing it out. And Andre, I, I just wanted to call out, so this went skyrocketing, while you were giving an extremely funny piece of the last space, and we went from two hundred to three hundred to four hundred listeners very, very quickly. you were absolutely just cooking, and then all of a sudden it was as if the ex-gods were just like, "Nope, this guy's saying too many uncomfortable truths," and all of a sudden people started spamming The Purple Pill, so being very, very↗

2:17@andrewilliamsuscurious. It's, you know, it's when you speak about the right things, shit like this happens. It's always been like this. It starts to be very obvious.↗

2:31Ian MalcolmYeah, they really didn't like what you were saying there, Andre, and, and, all about accountability. So I figured, hey, we'll listen to the, listen to the king of pop talk about the man in the mirror, which is the only one that we really can, can change, with absolute certainty tomorrow. So with that being said, I know that Raphael was kind of on a tear, so why don't we go back to him, to pick up where we left off?↗

2:51@malleusigAll right. And then, Andre, if you wanna jump in and give you feedback on any of this, feel free to, man. I wanna, I wanna hear what you think of it. I was just talking about like basically, we, we need to, we need to make sure that we need to accept the truth. The Black community isn't over-policed. The Black community is horrifically under-policed. And if the threat of the El Salvador model doesn't produce an improvement, then the reality of it needs to be introduced. These aren't white Europeans with the concept of future↗

3:19@malleusigA legal system created on the basis of that assumed target will not work on them. Prison isn't dissimilar enough to the jungles of Africa to be a deterrent. If we're not ready as a country to assume the guiding and regulating role it is our duty, we'll have no option other than to simply accept our death as a nation in the same way that parents that don't discipline their children, buy them alcohol, and give them the keys to the car will eventually have to accept the physical or financial ruin of their home.↗

3:47@malleusigThey are basically children that are in constant search for adult role models, and this is why they fall prey to Jewish programming so easily because it offers them the worst possible versions of these for a fee. This produces dysfunction in their own communities and outsized and easy profits in the Jewish one. Did you ever notice that Lincoln wasn't shot by a Jewish actor when he freed the slaves, but when he began to talk about sending them back?↗

4:15@malleusigThe only reason Jews allowed slavery to end was because they realized they were leaving money on the table by not marketing failure directly to them. Even their overseers wouldn't have spent good money to let them listen to Megan the Stallion. This is another thing that has to be heavily regulated if we're gonna have any semblance of civilization moving forward that includes them.↗

4:39@malleusigThey aren't animals. But on a spectrum with primates on the left and humans on the right, there's no way you're going to tell me or anyone else that actually pays attention that they land to the right of us. In other words, the missing link was never missing. We simply became so civilized that we didn't want to admit to ourselves, or perhaps to our wives, that we'd found it. That link isn't the whole black population, but there is no question that the portion of the black demographic that occupies the extreme left end of Charles Murray's bell curve Dips its toes ever so gingerly into the animal kingdom, and this isn't offered as a taunt or as me reveling in that fact, but refusing to accept it as a fact is the greatest cruelty one can commit against black people. Just as telling a child they're no different than an adult and then chuckling while watching them attempt to apply for a job and fail repeatedly is cruel.↗

5:32@malleusigThey need our help if they're going to succeed among us, because we will always outperform them as a group. Anyone can come to this realization simply by watching body cam videos. Two things immediately stand out within weeks of getting these things into your timeline. One, the extreme overrepresentation of blacks in criminal activity, and two, the preponderance of group criminality in a way that you never see among whites. When a white guy get arrested, gets arrested for killing someone, it's almost always one white killing somebody. When it's blacks, it's a group that all thought that committing homicide, filming it, and putting it on a world star hip hop was a great idea.↗

6:13@malleusigThe last thing that comes-- you will also notice me starting this, is the mindless aggression of black women, which is still, it's an enigma to me. If you were to go through and count the crimes committed by black women and compare them to crimes committed by white women, not only do you see an immediate quantitative difference, black women commit many times more crime than white women, and many times, and, and I would say actually, maybe not many times, but definitely more homicide than white men, but the quality, you see way more homicide and violent assaults, you see these crazy group fights among black women where they're grabbing each other's braids and throwing them around and like wailing on each other. Like you see, like gorillas hitting each other in a zoo.↗

6:57@malleusigit's, it's extremely shocking as a white man, a, to know that this kind of thing goes on at all, and then to have to confront the fact that when you see it happen, you only see it happening with black women. And that's, and, and also the ubiquity of black women turning routine traffic stops into assault on law enforcement is also alarming, and if you're not careful, it, it becomes a source of entertainment, which it really shouldn't. Karmaically, it's just gonna land you in hell. But that's what I wanted to share. Those are my notes on what you, you shared so far. Do you have any feedback, Andre?↗

7:34Speaker 1Oh no, I, I don't have any feedback. I love everything you said. it is a hard conversation to have, you know, given I'm a race realist, I'm, you know, I'm not someone who's new to all this. I've been around for years reading and listening to certain individuals when it comes to the reality of race and how things are. I can't really cry and complain about how things are, I can only make do with what I have and build and grow in a different direction, and that's what we must do as black people. but yeah, when I see like Shaniqua's at the fucking Walmart, chimping out over, you know, stupid shit, you know what? Baby daddy, y'all, I'm not with you, why you fucking with my baby daddy? And they fighting over Newport's and shit, it's like, damn, dude, like this is us, this is what we're doing. Nigga, what? You're somebody's mother! What the fuck? That's just, you know, you may occasionally on spring break find two Beckies and Amberlyns fighting,↗

8:28Speaker 1but in those cases, they're not the Susans and, Sydneys. Those are like poor white trash, so that's like, and that's like a my, a very s-small group of people in the white community compared to the- Large portion of ghetto hood rats you see in the, in the black community. And I said this, I said this to someone today, I said, you know, it's not, of course it's not every black woman, but it's a majority of black women, and the exceptions aren't the rule. You know, just because I speak well and mean well, unfortunately that isn't the rule in the black community. And that's something that, like, like the most important thing is that I have to deal with that. Your observation is perfect, spot on. But Black people need to understand, that's the observation of the outsider. What is the observation of the insider? And really, if you think that, you know, what you said and, and your notes you've taken, if someone thinks that's bad, oh my goodness, it's horrible what you said. Well, nigga, get into my brain, and I'll tell you how bad, how bad things really are, and how, how we really need to crack the whip. And I, I say it to be funny, we need to crack the motherfucking whip with↗

9:38Speaker 1a And it's not gonna change overnight. It's something that is a generational sacrifice that has to happen, and it's, it's necessary.↗

9:48@malleusigI think that it's, you're only gonna, you're only gonna see an improvement if one of two things happen. One, either, the welfare state gets turned off And then you see, you see a, you have a, a flash of essentially what amounts to, black mutual destruction, where people in black neighborhoods simply start killing and eating each other, I mean, figuratively anyway, right? And then the black population drops as a result.↗

10:17@malleusigand the worst representatives of the black population are the ones that, that go first, and then you'll have a, a chance to, to rebuild. The other way, and the only way to, to kind of like head that off and prevent it from happening, is to, massively regulate this population. Like they, and 'cause now I'm trying to turn it back, the, the goal of the room, of the, of the space is solutions. I don't wanna be just dumping on black people, but if we're gonna talk about solutions, it isn't gonna be the whole solution, but whatever solution we land on will have to include An extremely heavy hand with regulation of Black communities, because they've demonstrated over and over again that they're incapable of regulating themselves. And it's like, it's, it's like having a kid, and what we've done as a country for the past, I wanna say, what, sixty years? Since the '60s, Civil Rights, is essentially say, okay, we're gonna give you unlimited allowance, right? Unlimited food,↗

11:19@malleusigEverything you need to survive, as long as you keep making more copies of yourself, right? So essentially we've said to the black community, we're going to reward the worst parents, like, because the parents that are incapable of taking care of themselves or their children, right? We're gonna say to you, we're gonna give you unlimited money, unlimited allowance But you have to keep creating more children. Again, we're talking to the worst parents now. You have to keep making more children, and there can't be a father in the home. And that has-- what I think happened was this started out as a, as a good idea, as an ideal And then very quickly people noticed, and this goes all the way back as far as the Moynihan report, people noticed that it was producing the opposite effect of what they thought it would, because they designed the policy with whites in mind. They didn't understand that it wouldn't work the same with blacks. And then almost immediately,↗

12:23@malleusigsomeone, probably Democrats, realized, "Hold on a second, this is horribly broken, but it's working for our side of the political spectrum because now we can leverage this and make the Republicans look bad and gain votes. Essentially, we can turn the black population into a new plantation where we farm them for votes instead of tobacco." And that seems to be the only reason that this situation has persisted into the present.↗

12:51Speaker 2but you have to, you have to admit, Rabbi, that we're in the middle of a Black American renaissance insofar as so many are leaving that plantation and are coming over to a conservative or a Republican side, even Libertarian. And so I think that we are in the middle of a Black American renaissance, whereby the plantation is being emptied, people are waking up, and we're, they're realizing the enemy is within, and the enemy is the Marxist element that has inf-infiltated and infected the country over the last sixty to seventy years, taken over every aspect of academia, as well as the social organizations, and they've been grifting and grafting off of everybody. So I think all of this is-- The so- the solution is simple, it's enforced criminal law, it's locked People up for long sentences that commit violent crimes, and it's get these radical Marxist judges off the benches, which is what is gonna be the predominant legacy of the Trump administration, is putting conservative young judges on the bench that will affect policy for the next forty to fifty years. That will be the corrective force that we need, in, in this situation as well as education. I think↗

13:58Speaker 3a lot of them aren't working though, I think they should be shipped↗

14:01Speaker 2somewhere. I think they're not locking them up though. They're not, that's why.↗

14:04@malleusigI think that's true, and I think that it's gonna be a challenge though, because we've created, unfortunately, we've created a country where it's impossible to get good people into politics, right? Because you, the only way to get people into politics is to remove the people that are vulnerable to this kind of like Marxist indoctrination or this simple, simple-minded kind of like,↗

14:29@malleusigyou know, Reasoning that never looks at like second or third order effects, right? And the only way to do that is like the, the biggest target, the biggest target surface for that is basically females, right? Of whatever color, but getting females out of politics is a must if you're going to move towards any kind of progress in the future, like 'cause they're-- females, women are literally destroying our country. Right. That's, that's, and especially female judges. I don't know why, but every time you see someone being let off fifty, sixty times and then going on to kill someone on a subway, oh, what, what a shock, it was a female judge that let them out. And more than that, it's a Jewish female judge, right? So again, I don't see any way to reduce that attack service that doesn't require us to-- and again, I'd love to see this happen, but I don't, I'm, I'm realistic when it comes to what's possible↗

15:22@malleusigthat doesn't require us to abolish civil rights, right? So, and again, like, I'm really, I am extremely heartened that, that young black Republicans are coming to our side. The smart black people are coming to our side. The problem is the not so smart black people reproduce like alley cats, and so for every one black person that escapes the programming, you have↗

15:47@malleusigI'm gonna be nice here. You have a black, okay, I'm not gonna use like colorful language. You have a black woman that's producing six children from seven fathers, right? That nullifies all their votes.↗

16:00Speaker 4I'll do it for↗

16:01@malleusigyou. Yeah, but that's not necessarily true, right?↗

16:03Speaker 2The, the↗

16:03@malleusigblack person, the replacement rate↗

16:05@joann_marieis below replacement. Hold on, look, I understand what you're talking about. I'll go to- I'll,↗

16:08Speaker 1I'll do it better. You mean nigger bitches? I know you don't wanna use the color language, I do. Nigger bitches, here have clean hands. You're allowed. Here have clean hands, man, yeah. I can't say it. Everyone's got the pass. I won't lose my shit. No, We need white people. I hate that we have a country that's full of niggers, blacks, and weak whites. We need white-- I'm not saying you are, of course, it's not insulting you, but white people that don't wanna say the word, just say it, fuck it. You know, if someone wants to jump out, you gotta fucking make sure you're armed, that's all I could say, and make sure you got a, a great, great, self defense insurance like U C S A or whatever the hell it's called. fire, I need, I need to explain legal.↗

16:55@malleusigI need to, I need to go ahead. I need to explain what that word is from, from the white point of view. And I, again, I'm not criticizing, I'm just telling you from my viewpoint, this is what this word is. Do you play, role playing games like video games, Andre?↗

17:08Speaker 1I can play video games in a, in a minute, but I am a, not a role↗

17:11@malleusigplaying game fan. Okay. All right, well, it's no worries, fine, it's okay. So,↗

17:22Speaker 3Yes. Exactly. And I don't, I don't know. Fantastic.↗

17:25Ian MalcolmSo you're, you're suggesting to remove the, the power of something, right? The strength? No, no, yeah,↗

17:29@malleusigexactly. A debuff is when you reduce one of the stats of your enemy, right? You reduce their strength or their speed or their, you know, whatever. So that word From the white point of view, it's essentially white magic, alright? What it does, it's an IQ debuff. It drops the IQ of any black person with an airshot by about thirty percent with some, some dice roll, 'cause it doesn't attack every single one, right? But it drops the IQ of them as a group by about thirty percent. It increases,↗

18:00@malleusigtheir levels of violence and puts them into berserker mode. Alright, and it only works when a white wizard casts the spell. When a black wizard attempts to cast the spell, it does nothing except charge it for the next white wizard to cast it. Okay? The only-- The problem is↗

18:19@joann_mariethere is a, there is,↗

18:21@malleusigthere is a cost for casting all magic. And, in role-playing games, it's usually MP. But with this one piece of magic, the cost for casting it and putting every black person with an earshot into Berserker Rage is the life of the caster, unless you are extremely crafty about how you do this. A very good example was the woman that was being harassed by a group of black women on the subway And she waited until the doors were closing to drop the word into them, and then you got to see... I've seen↗

18:52Speaker 1that. I've seen that.↗

18:52@malleusigI know. And then you got to see how the spell immediately took effect, their IQs dropped, they went into berserker mode, but they were unable to reach the victim of the spell, alright? And that's what that word is, and that's why I never say it, because when you say it, and not, no criticism you, but you're black, and so when you say the word, it doesn't do anything. It↗

19:17@malleusigWhen I say it, something about my voice or the way I pronounce the word, when I say it, suddenly it's, it's a spell and it has very immediate and very real consequences. So I-- But do you delineate between the hard and the A? Any of them, any of them, as a white person, you can't. So if you, if you go to like a Jay-Z concert, can you rap along with the, with the lyrics?↗

19:38Speaker 3You can't, Loki, you can't. Wait, wait, wait. You can.↗

19:42@malleusigThe difference is, as a white person I accidentally cast the spell, and many people do, and many whites fall victim to a spell that they accidentally cast as a result of this. So that's why I stay the fuck away from the word as much as I can.↗

20:00@joann_marieThis is the most hilarious thing I've heard in a long time, bro.↗

20:06Speaker 2But I think so, so just to add a conicile to it, I think a, a solution, right? 'Cause we're all about solutions, can be the aspect of jury nullification. if you invite and encourage the general public to learn about jury nullification, they could disregard convicting people who are using self-defense in, everyday, parlance and, and, and usage, right? And they could act-- we could actually release individuals back on the street. This would actually provide a deterrent effect from individuals from committing violence because if everybody's super-strapped down, arm to the teeth, ready to put shots on center mass very quickly Very, very quickly, you'll see the opposite side, the aggressive side, either, a, wipe themselves out, right? 'Cause you can only roll the dice so many times without it crapping out, or two, just saying it's not worth it to get into this because he's got the eagle on him, he's gonna blow a softball-sized hole inside my chest. So I think that jury nullification, coupled with, with ubiquitous firearm ownership, I'm talking ubiquitous, I think there should be so many firearms that you trip on them in the street, like they litter the street like, like tumbleweeds, and you literally cannot- Right. And looking, you're assuming that↗

21:13@malleusigeveryone has the ability to think further ahead into the future than fifteen seconds.↗

21:19Speaker 2No, I'm, I'm, how does-- what does this have to do with being able to make society safer? If individuals are running amok in society, the judges aren't gonna handle it, they're gonna let people with forty, fifty arrests go back out, punch people in the face, push them in front of subways, hit them with, diapers, scream on the subway, they're gonna kill somebody if they don't get fed. Then the, the general public Is going to take law into their own hands and the jury system, which provides for jury nullification, which is the most powerful aspect that John Q. Public has in his pocket to be able to say, "No, even though I know that this person broke the law, I don't agree with that law nor the person being punished, so I'm going to vote to acquit." If you invite that and encourage the general public to know about it, know they have the rules to do that You solve this problem very, very, very quickly in a matter of thirty-six to sixty months.↗

22:13@malleusigI would like to believe that what you're saying is true, but I have seen judges simply disregard the verdict of, of juries in the past. So, and I, I don't think you would invite wholesale anarchy across America if that happened in that. Hold on, Loki, Loki, hold on a second. I don't doubt that that is exactly what will happen. and again, but again, it's, I, I like that you're thinking of solutions, so keep doing that. Keep throwing out solutions. That is definitely the right way to think.↗

22:41Ian MalcolmI do have one question though. Right, right. Rapha, I just had to com-comment. Your, your description halfway through berserker rage mode and the way that you walked through that, my brain started visualizing it at the bottom of one of those Magic: The Gathering cards. I was, I was laughing so hard. It's just a card that says↗

23:04@malleusigN I G G E R.↗

23:05Ian MalcolmI was laughing so hard, that was one of the funniest things I've heard. You, coupled with Andre, this, this space has just been, this has been wonderful.↗

23:13@andrewilliamsusThat was a planes card, that was a white spell for sure.↗

23:17@malleusigSo if anyone, if anyone has like video game or like, you know, video expertise, like, go find a video of like Final Fantasy from like the nineties, and below like the fire and ice spells, just put in that word As the next available spell.↗

23:34Speaker 1Yeah. The only thing that comes to mind for me is playing like Hearts of Iron, honestly.↗

23:38Speaker 5I, I need a, I need a d20 throw, Rabbi. I, I need you to roll a d20 right now for a saving throw, please.↗

23:44@malleusigThere you go.↗

23:45Speaker 5Will you?↗

23:48Ian MalcolmWell, let's go to, we'll go to Professor, Socially Davis. And, also I just wanna call out, I, I don't know why Prashant is, he's seemingly very upset about the space. he also apparently thinks that, I guess, I'm afraid of him or something. I don't exactly understand. I'll put it up into the purple pill or into the nest.↗

24:09@malleusigPrashant's upset about something. Oh, stop the presses.↗

24:12Ian MalcolmYeah, well, you can read it in the nest. It's a very strange Proshant, you're welcome to request the mic. we do have a lot of hands, but we'll certainly go through those, and we'll respect all individuals that wanna speak, come up, say whatever you want, be as critical of myself or anybody else up, up on the panel. we welcome all commentators. But, go for it, Professor.↗

24:33Speaker 6Yeah. Thank you guys. You hear me? We sure can. Sorry, you hear me? We sure can. Okay. Yeah. Okay.↗

24:44Speaker 6I, I'm sorry, I'm gonna push back a lot. I'll bring it back here peacefully. And, when I was a little boy, very young, about ten or less than that, and I was asking, "Nas like, does God exist?" My father used to do magic all day, and I was searching. And finally, I find out, really, God exists, and I said, "Jesus, the Jesus who died for me, and I find Him too."↗

25:17Speaker 6And, and when it comes to the skin color, I used to ask myself, I said, "Why do people call people black and white?" And I also, I just forget about it, I was like, "Come on, just use that, white, black, white, black." And I went to my university, and I do it here, do investigations about the brain and all that, one day. I went into my research and said, "Let me find out the beginning of calling people black and white." What I discovered shocked me.↗

25:47Speaker 6I said, "Wow." And there's a quote from the Bible, I think it's in, in, Matthew chapter seven verse seven, it said, "Seek and you will find." I think most of you guys here in this panel, you, you've never sought, you never seek, you never find out the beginning of the origin calling people black and white. That's just the truth. You just talk on, you know, based on your ignorance. No really. Even Andrea, you could be laughing. It's true, I, I've seen your video, I commented your video, Andrea. It's just a lot of BS. You're calling people black, black, black. I'm sorry, bro, Andrea, you're not black, you're brown. You're dark brown. And then, and then let's go to Catholicism now. In, in Catholic, they put the photo of Jesus- I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm↗

26:34Speaker 6Come on, let me finish, let me finish, come on.↗

26:37@malleusigOh, here we go. Oh, here we go. In other way,↗

26:38Speaker 6my↗

26:39@malleusigyou↗

26:39Speaker 6forgot,↗

26:39@malleusigthere's no, there's no fight like Black Americans versus African Africans.↗

26:44Speaker 6So they put, not↗

26:44@joann_marieAfrican↗

26:46Speaker 3Africans.↗

26:46@joann_marieThey,↗

26:48Speaker 6they put in Catholic, they put the photo of Jesus as light skin, so kawaii, blue eyes. The truth of the matter is that Jesus Christ doesn't have a skin color. Because you was born close to Africa, you know, the Pharaoh, you have the Egyptian, all that with dark skin, and Jesus probably had a brown skin, not, not seeing blue eyes or whatever. In a lot of years. So, so people concluded,↗

27:13Speaker 4"Black man, she, you know,↗

27:16Speaker 6so- I told you, sir. The conclusion, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put you guys on the body bag, for real.↗

27:23Ian MalcolmWhoa, no advocate for violence.↗

27:26Speaker 4But I'm just like, "No, I don't,↗

27:30@malleusigI don't, I don't doubt it. I mean, you've, you've successfully destroyed every argument we've made so far. " So, so look,↗

27:36@andrewilliamsusno, but you just, you just confirmed what Rabbi was saying earlier. Exactly. Sorry. No, no, I, I don't, I don't, I, I didn't, I didn't hear what he said, but you can't repeat that because↗

27:49Speaker 6Rabbi, Ra-Rabbi has a brain, I have my brain. That is not happening. I didn't hear↗

28:00Ian MalcolmI think, I think, David, the, the challenge is that I, I, I think what Rabbi was suggesting is that, e-emotions can get the best of certain people that will then revert to violence. And if I heard the debate correctly, it sounded like you got offended by something that someone said, and then you said that you were gonna put them in a body bag, which would just lend credit or credence to the comment you made. No, I was kidding. I was kidding.↗

28:26Ian MalcolmYeah, I understand. Maybe, maybe don't exemplify the stereotype.↗

28:30Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, no, I just, I use the word I don't really fight, I'm a believer, so I pray for people, I don't fight really. Sometimes I get angry, I'll just smile and share, I was like, I push you, I said, "Oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I make you know, peace, peacefully, peacefully, because the Bible says don't be angry until this, you know, the sun goes down. So↗

28:52Speaker 6To, to↗

28:53Ian Malcolmtry and cut to the, the chase, the, the primary area of disagreement that you might have or agreement that you have with, with Andre or Rabbi would be what if you had to encapsulate it?↗

29:04Speaker 6The disagreement is this, never you cop people white skin. I've never seen any of you on the planet white skin. I've got a white t-shirt. There's no white skin on earth. Go on, look on the conversation. So which beige-- With↗

29:19@joann_mariebeige would be↗

29:20@malleusigbetter for you or like-- Your, your literal argument is that-- No, no, no, no, you're all wrong because actual white people aren't actually white. That's-- You're, that you're literally making that argument.↗

29:30Speaker 7That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life, honestly. It's too--↗

29:34@malleusigOf course, because the↗

29:35Speaker 6reason it's too-- The reason the reason it's too good, nigga.↗

29:39@malleusigWe're being discussing complex socioeconomic effects and how to address them, and you come up here with this bullshit of white people aren't really white. No, because you never, you never study, bro. You never study.↗

29:52Speaker 6You never investigate. How many people are white? How many people are white? How many people are white? Okay, first of all,↗

29:57@malleusigfirst of all, first of all, maybe, maybe we're discovering a differential in American versus African academics, okay? But No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not-- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, wait. I don't have to study-- I don't think anyone else in the stage has to study anything to realize that white people aren't literally white, okay? Secondly, then why do you say white? If you ask-- Hold on, I know you think you've discovered nuclear fission, but like, hold on a second, let me get this out↗

30:38@malleusigIf for you, the number of books that you've read in your life is A, countable, and B, available, available to you immediately so you can answer that question, are either of those things true? No, no, Professor, is the number of books that you've read in your life low enough that you can recall it immediately when asked?↗

31:04@malleusigYou know,↗

31:04Speaker 6when, when I, when I use the word how many books you read, I don't, I don't mean let me outside you come out, don't put words in my mouth, mister. What, what I mean by that is- I'm literally just↗

31:13@malleusigquoting your words back to you and telling you what they- Oh my God,↗

31:16Speaker 6you see, no word, you no word, you know, I wanna, I just wanna kind of try me, let's have a- Okay, so, so your↗

31:22@joann_marieentire problem is that you want to discuss colors and, and↗

31:28Speaker 8like,↗

31:33@malleusigwhat, His dramatic conclusion where we find out that black people aren't actually black. Dun, dun,↗

31:50Speaker 6dun. No, they're↗

31:53Speaker 7brown.↗

31:56Speaker 1Sorry, man. No, no, And motherfucker, you're probably jet black. You're so fucking black, you stand up against a building, you look like an alleyway, alright? What the fuck is you talking about? You don't know, you are the problem. You're black. Black? Motherfucker, shut the fuck up, alright? That's why I'm like talking to Africans, 'cause they're just retarded. I don't even wanna hear what river hut problems you have, I don't care. I wanna talk to Black Americans.↗

32:23Speaker 1I'll, I'll give even a little bit more acceptance over to those who are in the Caribbean, alright? I'll, I'll listen to them, but I don't wanna hear nothing from the fucking coconut lover, alright? Anyone else? Any other Africans, y'all are cool. This nigga needs to go, take his ass back to the Motombo River.↗

32:40Speaker 6You see,↗

32:40Speaker 1look, look at the base, don't you? You're not civilised. Thank you, thank you. You're not↗

32:44Speaker 6civilised. Hang on,↗

32:45Ian Malcolmhang on, hang on, David, here's what we'll do, because I, I wanna make sure that you get a, a, a chance to say some parting words. So why don't you go for thirty or forty-five seconds, and uninterrupted, nobody will get in the way, nobody will jump on you. You can share some thoughts. We got lots of other requests, but then we'll move on.↗

33:02Speaker 6Okay↗

33:09Speaker 6Or whatever, and we can debate. I will be a co-host so that you don't, you don't, you don't say your, your, your, your bullshit, your, your, your, your, your street words on me. So we can have a civil, we can investigate that, that's, I'm gonna ask you questions, tough question right now, I'm very tired of my day right now, I wanna kinda sleep a little bit, I'm in Europe right now, so,↗

33:30Speaker 6you just brrr, brrr, brrr, I wanna ask you tough questions so we can debate. Is how about that? You have said the challenge, you can ask us what's your video. There are a lot of BS in your video. You didn't have it.↗

33:49Speaker 2You talked about the color, the tone not being really white. What, what did-- you didn't do anything?↗

33:55Speaker 6But, but what, what,↗

33:58Ian Malcolmand Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby, Robby↗

34:06Speaker 6Yeah, right now. I, I'm moving up right now. Why did you leave Africa out of↗

34:10Ian Malcolmcuriosity? Sorry, what? Why did you leave Africa?↗

34:16Speaker 6What about↗

34:23Speaker 2you?↗

34:28Speaker 6Why, why did you leave Africa? That's not the question. I'm, I'm exactly where we're at. No, no,↗

34:45Ian MalcolmObject, I assume there might be some other- No,↗

34:48Speaker 6let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me run over, let me run over.↗

34:50@joann_marieBut we, we, we have a lot of other speakers and they also want to talk about- And↗

34:54Ian Malcolmprofessor, here's what I'll do, so I'll, I'll remove you so we can bring up the next guest, but I appreciate that we had a little laugh there at the end, and, I also just wanted to suggest that if you wanna have a debate formally with Andre on specific ideas, if↗

35:11Ian Malcolmyou send With Joanne or Rabbi or anybody else that would want to participate. so we'll always do that. All opinions are welcome. but, but Andre, any, any parting words on the, the prior guest, and then we'll go to the next hand.↗

35:30Speaker 1Yeah, I don't have anything for, I don't really have nothing for cool runnings over there. You can Andre, can I, can I ask you, can I ask you? Feel the rhythm,↗

35:40Ian Malcolmfeel the ride, come on, Jamaica, it's Bob's let time. Give,↗

35:44Speaker 1give me one sec, I, I have to, my, my connection's acting really bad. Let me just drop down and come back up, just real quick.↗

35:51Ian MalcolmAlright, perfect. And, while we're awaiting Andre to come back, Rabbi, is it safe to say that this might have been, the most fun so far discussing kind of this contentious subject, or am I mistaken↗

36:04@malleusigIt, it would have been, but I've spent enough time arguing with Africans that I know how it's gonna go before they get five seconds into it. so for me, it's a lot of dread. but, I'm glad, I'm glad you guys had fun with it. It, it was, it's, you can't take them seriously. They're not--↗

36:21@andrewilliamsusWell, it, well, it was well placed after you just explained everything you just did. Yeah, no. It was just, it was like just, "Oh, look, an example."↗

36:31@malleusigYeah, it has a demonstration for the, for the class basically. Yeah. But, Andre, I feel like the next hand, Andre, I really liked that line about, "You're so black, And I think, I really think that one of the, one of the gaps in, let's say, defense capability between the white and the black community is the white's inability to call the nines. And so if at any point in the future you would like to produce either a series of tweets or a space where you can teach us all of these Fantastic savings, that then we can pull out as needed. I think that would be doing a great service to the movement.↗

37:19Ian MalcolmWell, let's, well, just wanna really quickly, quickly check in, Andre, are, is the mic work-working for you?↗

37:29@joann_marieI see that no one's, I see that no one's, answering. I do↗

37:30Ian Malcolmtoo, yeah.↗

37:32@joann_marieYeah, I think it's still the same line. We'll try↗

37:34Ian Malcolmthis one more time. Hopefully, Andre, you can hear it, and if so, we'll try to cycle you back up. It looks like you're requesting again. So, lovely, lovely Twitter, technical challenges. We'll try to get Andre right back up here. there we go. Thank you, Joann. Who is up, next?↗

37:54@joann_marieYeah, guys, please- Repost this page and follow Ian and Andrea, and they're amazing, amazing speakers, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. And, yeah, I think Andrea is back. Andrea?↗

38:07Speaker 1Yep, I'm back, Laura.↗

38:08@joann_marieOh, okay.↗

38:09Ian MalcolmAnd also, big, big shout out to, I see we got Cultivating in the space. I know she does a lot of, conversations, discussing these topics. so certainly give her a follow, check out her page. we'll certainly check in and get some of her thoughts. But Joanne, who was the, who was next on the, the roster here?↗

38:26@joann_marieYeah,↗

38:28Speaker 7me. Me! Please, I've been waiting forever. Well,↗

38:31Ian Malcolmw-when, when you're done, yeah, yeah, go,↗

38:33Speaker 7go for it. Okay.↗

38:35@joann_marieI, the, the list that I have is everybody, yeah, moved on. So, go for it, great person.↗

38:41Speaker 7So, I wanna explain that guy that was talking earlier, that African. So, if you go to any Black American and you compare them to any African On like almost every single time, the Black American is smarter than the Black African, 'cause the blacks that all came to America, you know, they had to like get civilized with Christian society, so it had like a eugenic effect on the blacks. So all the blacks in America are like, what, like fifty IQ points higher than the blacks in Africa. That argument was the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Talking about whites aren't really white and blacks aren't really black, that is so fucking stupid.↗

39:24Speaker 7So I, I had to say that, but, you know, Africans are honestly retarded. I don't know what they'd do without whites. They wouldn't, they wouldn't have anything without Europeans or white civilization, so they fucking need us, bro. I don't know where they'd be without us. But I also wanna say That Jewish media is like the, the main thing, like the main problem for America, 'cause they control the record labels, they control all the news, they control all the media and the algorithms of what people see. So like, if you're trying to like lower black crime or black violence or fucking women being in positions of power or, you know, you gotta fucking go for the Jewish media, you gotta take Hollywood away from the Jews. Because Jews control Hollywood, they control the movies, and you know what they put in their movies? They put anti-Christian, anti-nature rhetoric in their movies. Women are stronger than men. Oh, whites are more violent than blacks. Anything that's anti-nature or anti-human, a Jew will put it in their media, in their fucking music. So, and you know, they had this, this exact same problem with Germany, is the Jews represented Germany in the The Germans were like, "Fuck no, you're not gonna control our movies, you're not gonna control our music, you're not gonna control American culture." So they replaced the Jews that were controlling all the German culture and the movies and the songs.↗

40:58Speaker 7Excuse me, with real Germans, and that's what America needs to do. I hate to, I hate to like bring that up and talk about Germany, 'cause this is fucking America, has like barely anything to do with Germany besides the descendants of real Americans. So-↗

41:15Speaker 4I had to laugh, dude, we were like, "All I can imagine..." I was like, "Yeah, and, dude, and Hitler said, 'Kick the fucking kikes out, dude.' That's... Thank you for talking about Germany that I never thought of. It was so funny. I'm sorry. I'm sorry." You're- I mean, that's what happened,↗

41:33Speaker 7bro. It↗

41:33Speaker 4was, it is, it is. It was just the way that you said it that made it funny. Not, not making fun of you. That shouldn't- What, I- Okay, probably. It was great.↗

41:44Speaker 7But, yeah, that's what we need to do, is, I don't know how the fuck we're gonna do it. You know, Nick Fu- Nick Fuentes is obviously the leader of America First. You know, everyone wants to say, "No, it's Dan Buziyan," or "No, it's this guy," or "No, it's Tucker Carlson." Nope. Everyone knows it, it's Nicholas J. Fuentes. So, I think the Goebbels will be very good candidates of replacing the Jewish media and getting 'em out of positions of power, of like↗

42:18@joann_marieThis isn't a fun to space.↗

42:21Speaker 1Yeah, and ask him just an honest question, how long have you been J-Walk, bro?↗

42:26Speaker 7How long have been, have I been what?↗

42:29Speaker 1J-Walk, like, where'd the J come from?↗

42:33Speaker 7J-WO- what? What is that?↗

42:35Speaker 1J-WOKE, aware of the J-Q. Okay, so not long enough. I could tell, 'cause some people like learned↗

42:40Speaker 4about this shit yesterday. No, bro, no, I didn't not, bro. I love you, I love you. It just, it feels like you did, dude, the way that you were just like, "Dude, you know, National Socialism in Germany was actually based."↗

42:54Speaker 7Bro, I was saying, no, I hate to be that guy, I hate to be that guy that talks about Germany, but I'm just saying we're having the same problems they had. I hate to say that, but it's just like pointing out the obvious, you know what I'm saying?↗

43:08Speaker 1I'm, I'm fucking with you, dude. I'm fucking with you. It's, it's just funny, it's just funny. I can have a laugh, alright? I can have a laugh. but I, I agree with everything you're saying, man. Yeah.↗

43:24Speaker 1You know, I'm not gonna sit back and put my money on one man, right now. That's true. Doesn't mean I don't like Nick, you know, Nick is okay, but I, I think there's a lot of problems, there's still a lot of growing up Nick has to do. I hate to say that, it's kinda gay to say, like, you know, call me out on it, but I still think that he is, lacking in certain, in certain areas that he needs to really develop himself a lot better if he's going↗

43:47Speaker 1to be a↗

43:54Speaker 1Just stop with the gay shit, Nick. You know? Please stop with the, please stop with the terrible gay shit. Yeah, I'm↗

44:00Speaker 7questioning whether he likes men or women, bro. 'Cause I've, like, how does he not have any bitches like yet? 'Cause, you know, he always says he has so many bitches in his DMs, but you never see him with a girl.↗

44:12Speaker 1He doesn't have the money. listen, nigga, just gonna keep it real, the bitch sendin' me money, it's all for a gain, you know? What are we talkin' about? She sendin' money, bitch? Hell, yes. I'm just sayin', bitch sendin' me ten thousand dollars for a stream, bitch, that shit, your ticket can come tomorrow, you know? Like, I'm just being honest here. So I don't know what he's doin' with the, you know, not gettin' with women.↗

44:39Speaker 1it, it Especially as an American, you know, when we look at a lot of the most powerful Americans throughout media, history, politics, like, let's be honest, they were fucking playboys. I mean, they had a bunch of women around them, and, you know, look at Kennedy, Kennedy was a fucking, look at him, yeah, Marilyn Monroe, probably some other women on the boat. Alright, hey, I'm gonna be honest, Bill Clinton was a good-looking guy in the nineties. Look, I mean, ho-- That was- Oh yeah, he was a Chad, bro. Yeah, you know, he was really the first black president, Bill Clinton. Only niggas would bring their hoes to work. That's, that's a nigga thing. The↗

45:14Speaker 3only, what you mean, the first, the only.↗

45:16Speaker 1The only. Good↗

45:18Speaker 3point. Obama's African, I mean, he's from Kenya.↗

45:21Speaker 1True, true,↗

45:21Speaker 4true.↗

45:22Speaker 1Well, yeah. It's funny, I love saying that, Bill Clinton was the first one, you know, he was the only first and only. I think it's funny. But that's all I gotta say. Griperspace, I do appreciate you giving your takes. This is fun. I had to have a laugh with you. Yeah, bro. Yeah, a laugh with you. Alright, let's get to the next hand.↗

45:37@joann_marieTom, go for it, welcome.↗

45:44@transformer444Hey guys, thanks. Wow, what a wild space. I mean, I've enjoyed it. We've had a lot of comedic highs But this has been a, a, a wild space, and it's, it's fun to participate in these sometimes. So, you know, when it comes to, to Nick and his decision to abstain from interacting with women, I, who knows, maybe he's preserving his, life force or his chi for later in life. God knows what's going on with that guy. But no, I like, you know, there are things about Nick I like, but he's a curious character, no question about it. So Andre, bro, look, I, I was listening in earlier, man, congrats, because it's really not easy to hit home run after home run while making comments online in his face, while using a comedic approach, but that was awesome, hilarious, and I couldn't stop laughing earlier, which, which made me think about this, right?↗

46:32@transformer444So a lot of us understand what the purpose of resentment politics is, but when we think about, for example, Soros-branded woke resentment politics and the damage that it's done, in terms of getting people so in their feelings, so to speak, that they automatically react to certain stimuli, that they're sort of conditioned and prepped to react to or overreact to Through their Marxist conditioning and, and training. And so while I was listening to you, you know, brother, I was reminded of the fact that,↗

47:06@transformer444it's extremely healthy and cathartic to be able to laugh at oneself, especially when you've been programmed to take yourself too seriously or be, to be offended and react in a knee-jerk way to certain things. So yeah, I, I think it's awesome the kind of humor you're bringing to the table and the fact that you can, you know, laugh at yourself and, and feel secure in your position. Obviously, you're extremely educated and intelligent person, so I don't see why you'd feel in any way, shape or form uncomfortable with a self-deprecating sense of humor. And anyway, I enjoyed a great deal the, the presentation, man. So↗

47:36@transformer444a couple of other things I wanna share really quickly. one of them is that I would be willing to bet that if we had let's say 50% black, 50%, oh, 48% white, 2% the Jewish, as they say in the Middle East, no, I'm joking. But let's say we're 50/50, 50% white, 50% black. And you were on stage making these jokes, I guarantee you people on both sides would be, the tension would lower naturally as people laugh, realize, okay, we're both having a good time, we're laughing at each other, and you could even do some white jokes, and everyone with your sense of humor would be laughing on both sides, and that would be a very positive thing, I think, because I remember, look, in the early two thousands, as you said There was no racial tension that I was aware of. I mean, maybe in certain parts of the country there were, but I remember that in those days I had a lot of black friends, a lot of Hispanic friends, a lot of white friends because of the party part of the country that I lived in. It's very mixed. And there was no racial tension at all, it was crazy. Sometimes I'd be hanging out with black dudes that would literally stick people up for a living, and they never tried to do anything to me. It was weird, it was a bizarre time, but those days are over with. They're over with, unfortunately, and I hope there's a way to bring them back. The only way I think that, that could be done is possibly through humor. So, anyway, I really enjoyed that, man. Thank you.↗

48:49Speaker 1Thank you, Tom. And that's why I add so much humor to my, Acting, behaving the way that they do, or they make videos like the one I, I posted on my ex, I think an hour ago, this dude is like, "I'm gonna come and kill you and, and put your mother's address on the internet 'cause you made a video about me, you know, saying something about nigger or killing white people." He made a video to my, "I'm gonna kill white people because they're racist," and I said, "This nigger's a violent old black nigger," and he got mad from that,↗

49:20Speaker 1was like, "I'm Funny, you know, I laugh at it. I can make a sixty-second or forty-five-second, reel that, you know, gets a hundred thousand views, two hundred thousand views, and it's funny, and people like it, and they enjoy it. But really, you know, the, the harsh reality is that this is how we're living, you know? So that humor, it's a very-- I think it is a very calming effect for a lot of people, but some people just don't like it, and they get really offended that I would even make such a, a joke↗

49:56Speaker 1Thank you everybody. You know, unfortunately, I can only change those who are willing to listen and learn and, and work with me. And if that's ten people in the world, it's ten people in the world. If it's ten million, ten million, I'll take it.↗

50:08@transformer444Awesome, man.↗

50:11@joann_marieThank you so much for coming up, Tom. Alright, Looper, go for it.↗

50:17Speaker 5Oh my fucking god, it's about fucking time, dude. I'm gonna be so fucking quick. Bye-bye. Rabbot, I need you to throw a fucking saving throw on a d20 right now, real quick. You were asking me that last time. I don't have my dice. Dude, dude, dude, dude. I don't have my dice. motherfucker. You can't talk about it if you don't have dice. Alright, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Alright, guys. so in the nineties, you had Wu-Tang Clan, KRS-One, you had a, a pretty good, Erykah Badu, you, you had good black culture. What happened to the black culture from the nineties to now? even the eighties to now, right? I remember going to school↗

51:03Speaker 5and we had shotguns in our vehicles, like, and if something popped off, none of us never went to our truck to go grab the shotgun to shoot someone. We, we fought it out. Like, so, I'm, I'm, so it's not just black and white, it's not just like so polarized. It's a degradation of society a-as we see fit. Like, we've lost something. We, we've lost something at the-- we've lost sight of the prize at the end of the day. Day, right? And so I'll say this, dude, so someone else mentioned the FBA community and like I was gonna mention that, I'm looking at my notes right now.↗

51:44Speaker 5So, I'm sorry. so someone else mentioned the FBA, but I, I lived, you know, I had a hard life. I did time, and I lived, close kin, with black people in, in jail. And, and so you have niggas, a-and you have black people. There, there's, i-it's two different types of people, man. It's two different mentalities, two different educational levels, two different, modalities Dialities of which they operate. And so,↗

52:18Speaker 5and so I think like, the, the comedy series, Chris Rock, he said, "There's black people and there's niggas," right? And, Andre, I'd be interested to hear your take on the difference of black people and niggas, like as Chris Rock said. So, I, I'll, I'll land there. I'm, I'm gonna be real quick. I know there's lots of hands, and I know people get frustrated. So, God bless you↗

52:47Speaker 1Thank you, man. Thank you. I'll, I'll briefly give this, breakdown. You can watch my video for the four types of Black Americans. I think that's a very good video. this is the second time I've done that video. I, it originally was a three minute video on TikTok that got like five million views, and then I was like, "Well, fuck it, let me make it into a YouTube video," and, and did it, and it's going everywhere. But what Black people, hardworking, honest,↗

53:12Speaker 1love God, Family, they're not walking around with a chip on their shoulder, high self-esteem, just your average nor- a, a very normal black person that you can just be around, that you know, probably in your life, that's like, "This is a good dude, this is a good person I can hang around. He has a family, he's married to a black woman, maybe a mixed girl, whatever, but he's got black kids, you know, his kids are black, his kids are, whatever. He's not married to white women or Hispanics or anything outside of that,↗

53:44Speaker 1Niggas loud, entitled, selfish, angry, hostile, insecure. Niggas come, in two forms, black male and black female. I say "nigga bitch" and "dumb nigga." and they're very hateful of themselves and everyone else. When people talk about self-hatred with me, I have self-hatred. I hate being black! I love being black, I don't like niggas, and I would never wanna be a nigger. I just don't like niggas, I can't stand 'em. Because at the end of the day, the person I have to deal with is a nigger before I have to deal with a black person or even a white person. That's just how it is. It's very unfortunate when I go to the gr- the gas station or I go to any, anywhere in a predominantly black area, especially around Detroit, there's gonna be more niggas than there Because at that, at that point, and I can't survive, I can't, I can't live when I've got a bunch of people who are so hostile to my own existence, to, to peace, to stability, and they want nothing but chaos. How can I live? How can I exist? How can any child live and exist?↗

54:49Speaker 1It's just not sustainable. So we have to do something with niggas, we have to really get 'em out of our community. It can happen, but there's a lot A lot of them was happenin', and, eugenics is necessary. I'm just gonna say, eugenics, segregation is gonna be ne- it's neces- it's necessary, it is what it is. People gonna be offended by that. there are ways around of it. I don't, I don't think it's gonna be very aggressive, hard, all my brutal conflict, but there's gonna be a lot of enforcing of the law that we need to do in this country, and it's gonna be very harsh. The hammer's gonna really hit a lot of↗

55:23Speaker 5these Right? And so, me and another person were talking earlier about, basically, miscegenation and like, blacks mixing with whites, et cetera, et cetera. but we eventually, digressed into, basically, IQ mixing, right? y-you want to mix with someone who is, has IQ, roughly around the same as you. like whatever your IQ would be, you wanna mix Mix with someone who has that IQ, regardless of skin color. Well, w- I'm, I'm only going white, no offense, I am that kinda guy. I, I don't miscegenate. I don't,↗

56:11Speaker 5I don't fuck with the gene pool, alright? So w- I'll just say that. But in the same token, though, you have white niggas too, right? And, and so, like, that all comes down To basic IQ, it comes down to your educational level, it comes down to your interpretation, and how you conduct yourself, and that all comes from upbringing, how you were raised. Did you have a good father figure, et cetera, et cetera. And so I, I think that's also important for us to discuss is that we should all be, basically, if, if you're going to be with someone, you need to be with someone who is compatible with your IQ. So if, if- If you're dumb as a box of rocks and you have like an 80 IQ, yeah, fuck a married retard, go for it, like, cool. But if you do have some semblance of intelligence, you should be with someone who has a semblance of intelligence, because that's the only way it's gonna work. I'll yield.↗

57:13Speaker 1Yeah, no race mixing. yes, you wanna find a partner that is compatible with you, compatible with you in, in various different ways. Intelligence is very important. You don't wanna marry a dumb bitch or a dumb nigga, for some of the females out there listening. that's just how it is. I couldn't disagree, at all. But yeah, no race mixing.↗

57:34Speaker 1I'm not into the, "Oh, I'm gonna go fuck a white woman." Why? Fuck that. I mean, if you want a white woman, go get you a mixed girl. And I consider mixed people black, I just do. I know some won't, but I know white people aren't gonna accept them at all. I mean, it's kind of, and they're never gonna have their own identity, they're kind of like placeholders,↗

57:54Speaker 4right?↗

57:56Speaker 1Increase the IQ of your kids, I don't know. I'm just, I'm, I'm being, trying to be funny here. I'm kinda getting a little tired, but I'm trying to be funny as much as I can.↗

58:10@joann_marieAlright, thank you so much. Next hand is Ludwig. Welcome, go for it.↗

58:15Speaker 9thank you for the opportunity. I always come with a disclaimer. My opinion is my opinion alone shouldn't reflect on Andre or the host or anybody else. Andre, it's always a pleasure. I speak to the points and not to the persons. taking away women's right to vote, would be dis-disastrous for the White America. White America wouldn't, would never win a healthy election again.↗

58:41Speaker 9it's not the women's fault that we're in this mess, it's the Jews. so, taking away women's right to vote, man White people would never have a say in another election. We'd be outvoted by our own, the liberals, and by the melanated people. we wouldn't even come close. It would be disastrous. I liked your joke about the whole alley thing. You know, I always say whenever a black man standing next to me, I always think he's, it's my shadow until I notice the skull shape.↗

59:20Speaker 9I couldn't believe I hear people saying, you know, Nick Florentis is gonna be the leader of White America. Really? A gay Mexican queer Jew is gonna be the leader for my, for my, myself and my son, and the rest of White America. That's the best we can do? I think not. now, now for you, Andre, I contend the blacks-- when the blacks are doing well in America, basically from the Civil War to nineteen sixty, it was because, I contend, it was because the blacks were mimicking the white people They were behaving like white people, they were moving like white people, they were building like white people, dressing like white people. They, they looked up to the white people, they wanted to emulate the white people. And it's only when they stopped doing that, when anything white was, demonized in the black community, that the black community reverted back to its natural state, 'cause we see the blacks in Canada and elsewhere in the world behaving just like these, as you call it, niggers, in America We see these Africans around the world, and we see these, blacks that are anti-white, they behave the same. So it's gotta be their default setting↗

1:00:39Speaker 9as far as Black people, and the decent Black to successful Blacks, what do you guys do? You guys, mimic White people. You guys follow White people's leads. You guys live your lives, and put emphasis on the same thing White people do, and you guys are successful in a White nation, obviously for it. what would your opinion be on my assessment of this?↗

1:01:07Speaker 1I think everything said, you know, we, I don't think we have too many disagreements. the only thing I will say is that my goal isn't to be like white people, to act like white people, to mimic white people. I need black people to be black people, and I need niggers to go. Now, a very simplistic way of putting it, but I need Black people in America to have an identity, to build a culture and a purpose that can contribute to this collective that we have here in the United States. White people have to do the same, have to do the same thing for themselves with their own problems, but I need Black people to be Black Americans or American Blacks. I need White people to be White Americans, American Whites. That's what we need at the end of the day, because we're losing. We both-- when we look at both of our communities, I mean, we I mean, the birth rate replacement level, I think both black and whites are, are like neck and neck. I think ours is one point four, whites is one point five, Hispanics is, you know, what, two point three or, you know, damn near three, and everyone else is higher. That's a fucking death sentence right there. I told someone today, you know, they're, they're, we're talking about immigration, and they say, you know, well, in, in twenty fifty, whites gonna be a minority and Hispanics are gonna↗

1:02:19Speaker 1be at least thirty, It's a very different country for everyone. It's not a, oh, we're just gonna have the burritos and the soul food together. Okay, nigga, yeah. Good luck with that. Go tell Hernandez that. Yeah, I think they'll get along with that very well. They don't. They don't fucking care. So very different country culturally, legally, everything. It's just not gonna look good for both black and white people. We have to wake up to that. When it comes to Nick, yeah, I, I'm, I'm not the, like,↗

1:02:50Speaker 1I Back and jerk him off. I think there's a lot of growing he needs to do. I think he is very intelligent. I think he's very well versed in what he's talking about, can break down, he's moved a lot of people over to this side of politics, waking up on the Jewish question, but, there needs to be another level, a new level, a new direction he takes his platform and his message with, and this idea we should vote Democrat to, you know, punish Republicans, I think that's kinda retarded. I really do think that's retarded.↗

1:03:22Speaker 1We're voting for candidates that align with our interests, regardless of party, if we're gonna do that, but not punishing the Republican Party. I think this is foolish.↗

1:03:31Speaker 9one last, thing I'd like to get your opinion on, and as far as Nick, I don't need a queer faggot Mexican speaking on behalf of my people. That's my opinion. my, I got enough of good of my people that can speak for my people. now on the multi, racialism. I contend that it's been tried many times. All empires start out homogeneous, they become multi-racial, multicultural, and they have the same problems we have today And when all empires fail, and God willing, the American Empire also will fail, when all empires collapse, the first thing that happens is all the people separate, even subdivide like the Arabs in the Ottoman Empire, they divided amongst themselves, and, Greeks and Armenians couldn't get away quick enough↗

1:04:23Speaker 9so I contend that multiracialism is, is always gonna fail, and to try to prop it up would be foolishness, and we should, work towards complete and utter separation of all peoples, especially people that are Jewish. what's your opinion on that, Andre?↗

1:04:43Speaker 4That's a blasphemous stereotype. That↗

1:04:47Speaker 1was great. I think that balkanization, racial balkanization, is-- it can go in either direction. We see the complete collapse of the United States of America as we know it, this union, this republic. and then of course, yeah, blacks, mainly in the South, the Black Belt, are gonna form their own country in their own area. I think most whites would probably move Midwest,↗

1:05:16Speaker 1and I think Hispanics, of course, occupy the Southwest cor-corner of the United States. and that's will be, that will be the epicenters of, you know, the racial identity of this con- of this continent going forward. Say we get complete, total Balkanization, it's broken up, you know, the Balk, the Balkan We're getting, we're getting that, we're getting a breakup of Yugoslavia, it's terrible.↗

1:05:36Speaker 1Now, I think what is more realistic and, less gruesome, graphic We have to push for separate but equal in this country. You know, the, the blacks are gonna have their own area, whites are gonna have their own area, and, they're gonna be places where we integrate, we come together, which is fine, but we need to have an epicenter of where white people live here, black people live here. If you wanna be around just black people, go here. Wanna live around just white people, go here. And given the demographics of the country currently, Hispanics, I don't think are going away, unfortunately. I don't think we're gonna↗

1:06:15Speaker 1I think whites probably would be in a situation where it's not looking too favorable, sixty percent white in a forty percent minority, you know, I know that's not the, the favor for much of the people here, you know, but that's the reality we're dealing with, unfortunately. you get rid of all the Hispanics, you probably have a, a seventy thirty situation with thirty percent blacks,↗

1:06:35Speaker 1and, you know, seventy percent white. I think that'd be good, but it's a lot that has to happen in order to achieve that. But separate but equal, segregation You can't no water fountains in bathrooms and buses, I think that's ridiculous, but having a living space, having a place where this is where all the-- Look at America, I think the best and brightest, the most intelligent people of both of our communities come from this country alone. Yes, we still have great minds in, in Europe, and there, I think there are, are people who come from various different African countries and, and add, I'm talking high IQ Africans who are going into medicine and, and various other positions who are leaving the continent and coming over here. But really, when we look at our people and the history and everything we've done, minor, major, in the middle, everything has come out of this country, especially in the last century. Everything has come out of this country with our thoughts, our ideas, our work and ingenuity, and I will, I want us to be the epicenter of culture and excellence for the humanity, but most of Western civilization, right now, we're the epicenter of degeneracy and just, embarrassment.↗

1:07:47Speaker 1It's depressing. And black people, unfortunately, are at the top of that. And I refuse, I refuse to live the end of my life knowing that this is still current.↗

1:08:01Speaker 9Well, I wanna thank you, for answering my-- or giving me your opinion on my, statements. me personally, I couldn't think of a bigger hellscape than segregated America. I couldn't think of a worse approach. blacks contributed very little. it was mostly, European people that have done the most. I, I, I've never witnessed multiracialism working anywhere in history, and I think it's a fool errand to continue to try this failed experiment. But I do appreciate your opinion, and I do like you. I think, I think you're doing great work. I, I like your content. I hope you never stop. but yeah, I would disagree with you on these things, but thank you for, you know, in-interacting with me, I appreciate it.↗

1:08:51@joann_marieAmazing, thank you so much for coming out, Ludwig. Oh, Andre, did you want to say something?↗

1:08:58Speaker 1Yeah, that's something I, like, I even had this conversation with the, the Frodrax, Frodrax brothers, on YouTube. I think they're pretty decent. I've been around the white nationalist, white identitarian side for a long time. and there's always gonna be, we agree on ninety percent of the things, but we disagree on this ten percent, and that ten percent is always gonna be, a multiracialism. I think given the fact that the way the world is moving, given it's more inter-interconnected, given the social media and so on, I think the expansion of aircraft and, and train trying to get faster and faster, getting to places a lot quicker than what we are now, I think you're still gonna have a more integrated world, but this idea of white people can't↗

1:09:40Speaker 1Can't have their own space. Everyone's gotta have like, we have to allow people, everyone has to be forced to be with each other, it's definitely not going to work. But yeah, I, I landed there. I love you, Ludwig. There's multiple spaces I've seen you on, and I guess this is like the first time we disagree, and that's fine. Still love you.↗

1:09:59Speaker 9I wouldn't call it a disagreement, just different opinion. Joanne, do you need me to drop down to clear some room on this panel for some fresh hands?↗

1:10:08@joann_marieI don't, need a couple of.↗

1:10:10Speaker 9Okay, I'll drop that. Okay. I, I wouldn't. All right,↗

1:10:12@joann_mariethank you so much for coming,↗

1:10:14Ian Malcolmcouple of people. I just wanna thank you all. I mean, Ludwig obviously, you know, very strong in, in stances on this topic and, and discussed them. I've, I've been, pleasure to be in space with him plenty of times in the past. and I, I just wanna call out how professionally and respectfully delivered those differences of opinions were, in a space where, in the↗

1:10:37Ian MalcolmAnd it's just remarkable how many people are so uncomfortable trying to have even what is a, a perfectly reasoned discourse on these subjects, which I think goes to show kind of how, triggered so many individuals are. And, and Andre, I, I just love hearing some of these differences of opinions, and, and your perspective's just been, beyond refreshing.↗

1:11:00Ian MalcolmThank you.↗

1:11:00@joann_marieUncle Tom. Uncle Tom. Welcome, go for it.↗

1:11:07Speaker 10Hey, what's up? Thanks for having me back. if my mic is shit, then, you guys can skip me, so just let me know. It's fine. no, it↗

1:11:17Ian Malcolmsounds↗

1:11:18Speaker 10good. Cool. What's up, Rabbi? Andre, never met you before. What's up, Rabbi? A lot of people like what you have to say. What's up, Zora also? and Rabbi. yeah, so- Andre, when you get out of your car, does the oil light come on?↗

1:11:42Speaker 10No.↗

1:11:45Speaker 10Figured you'd like that one. Yeah, so, I think, we've-- you guys have had-- Ian, you've had this space a few different times. I don't know if this is a weekly thing or what, but I know in the last space- a gentleman was talking about, he, how to identify himself, a-a, he said he was saying he's not black, and you took issue with that. I don't wanna get too much into it, but I, I think what he was trying to say is if, like, you go to Finland, right? You're not gonna walk around saying, "Hey, I'm white," right? 'Cause, I mean, if you've had the privilege of traveling anywhere in your life,↗

1:12:21Speaker 10it's just not You, you would, you would more give your ethnicity. Like, so for me, I don't go to, I wouldn't go to Africa and say I'm black, right? I'd say, actually West Indian, my parents are from Jamaica. So I think that's, I think, that's, missing. Or you might have missed that.↗

1:12:43Ian MalcolmBut, but Uncle Tom, you, you recognized that he wasn't stating that in the context of if he goes somewhere else that he would identify as American, he was saying that when he looks and- No, I'm just using that↗

1:12:54Speaker 10example. I know I'm interrupting you, I'm just saying I'm using that example so you actually get it, so that, so you understand it, right? So, so you understand the point I just made.↗

1:13:08Ian MalcolmI, I wouldn't go to↗

1:13:09Speaker 10Finland and say I'm white. I wouldn't do that.↗

1:13:12Ian MalcolmI find it, I find-- I mean, this is my opinion, I find it strange if a black person says that he doesn't refer to himself as a black person. That's, that's what the person is saying.↗

1:13:20Speaker 10Yes. And the irony in, in that is it's like literally the same thing that FBAs do. You're making the same argument that FBAs made. So you're just on, you're just on,↗

1:13:31Ian Malcolmreally saying the same↗

1:13:32Speaker 10thing. So any, any problems you FBAs are literally guilty of the same thing.↗

1:13:40Ian MalcolmWait, wait, now this is getting ridiculous. You're suggesting that me suggesting that it's strange for a black person to not identify as a black person makes me in alignment with the FBAs who I think are largely lunatics. Can you please elaborate?↗

1:13:58Speaker 1That would be a wild fucking thing.↗

1:14:02Speaker 10Hey, sorry, the space was acting up a little, Mike, Mike was acting up a little bit. But yeah, so I, I can explain. So, it's basically it just creates division when you identify That way, right? I, I get that it can be useful, like it's useful in some cases. If I'm pushing↗

1:14:23Ian Malcolma shopping cart, I will identify as pushing a shopping cart. If I'm wearing a blue shirt, I will identify as wearing a blue shirt. If a person is black, I identify them as being black, and I don't know why they want to- Sure, sure, that's fine. It's a↗

1:14:34Speaker 10false equivalency, right? So first of all, second of all, again, if you go in- But why, why do you have a problem↗

1:14:45@joann_mariewith What in what I just stated↗

1:14:48Ian Malcolmwas false equivalency.↗

1:14:50Speaker 10Saying someone has a blue shirt, you wouldn't go, I'm trying to give you the example of, if you go to Finland, you're not going to say, "Hey, if somebody says, hey, like..." No, no, traveling↗

1:14:59Ian Malcolmisn't relevant to this discussion. He was saying that he's black, but he doesn't identify as being black.↗

1:15:05Speaker 10Yes, and he was trying to explain this, but he didn't have a good example, so I'm giving you a better- No, because he wasn't talking↗

1:15:09Ian Malcolmabout traveling, he was↗

1:15:13Speaker 10Right, because, yeah, in, in some cases, if he is in, let's say he's in the United States in an African community, no, right, or in Miami somewhere,↗

1:15:23Ian Malcolmthis was him saying, "I don't identify as black when he is black."↗

1:15:29Speaker 10Oh, oh, okay. If, I mean, if you don't wanna- Why don't you steal, why don't you steal, man, what I'm saying? Can you steal, man, what I'm saying? What I'm trying to say? No, because you made the↗

1:15:38Ian Malcolmaccusation↗

1:15:39Speaker 10that I literally be- No, you can't. Okay, so do you want me to do it, say it again? No, you,↗

1:15:42Ian Malcolmyou made the claim that because I thought it was strange that a black man didn't identify as being black, that I am therefore equated to the line of thinking of↗

1:15:58Speaker 10Okay, sure, sure. I mean, I, I'll accept that you think it's bizarre. I don't think anybody else does, but that's fine. No, it is↗

1:16:04Ian Malcolmbizarre. It's not, it's not that I think it's bizarre, it is bizarre. Okay. Okay.↗

1:16:09Speaker 1It's pretty fucking wild,↗

1:16:10Speaker 10dude.↗

1:16:10Speaker 3I, I just think it, like, it's common sense, right? I think the way you were saying is like, "Well, you're not white, I'm wearing a white..." Wait,↗

1:16:16Speaker 10common sense isn't an argument, but Andre, what, what↗

1:16:25Speaker 1Yes, it is very so, I, I see where you're going with this. You're saying that outside of America, we don't identify, like people don't identify as white.↗

1:16:33Speaker 10Yeah, or even in America, go to Miami and go to Little Haiti. Am I gonna say, "Go to Little Haiti in America?" And, Miami and↗

1:16:41Speaker 1Little Haiti. Really, that's the problem that we have in this country. I, I get irritated when I hear someone black tells me, "Oh, you know, I'm from Ghana," and like, motherfucker's never been to Ghana, has no connection to Ghana. You've been here four generations or something, five.↗

1:16:55Speaker 10Yeah, well, I, I have been to Jamaica, I go all the time, and I do have connections to Jamaica, and I am West Indian. So, I, I mean, Uncle, Uncle, let's listen to Andre↗

1:17:04@joann_mariefor a second. Why is this Andre? Because I↗

1:17:12Speaker 1Yeah, like, okay, I, I'm glad you like coconuts and hammocks too. I mean, it's cool, you know, we're from Jamaica and all. but, honestly, what does this have to do with the discussion? Like, what's the point of contention here that you're really trying to get?↗

1:17:24Speaker 10No, no, sure, sure. If you wanna, if you, if you wanna concede and, or, or move on, we can move on. So, I mean, hang on,↗

1:17:31Ian Malcolmconcede on what the fuck is this?↗

1:17:35Speaker 10Okay, if, if you don't think it pertains to race realism, that's fine. I'll stand corrected.↗

1:17:44Speaker 11I'll stand↗

1:17:45@malleusigcorrected. Uncle Tom, Uncle Tom, in, in the interest of, in the interest of building bridges here, I'm having difficulty understanding exactly what your point is and why you've introduced what sounds like white, okay, so my point is↗

1:17:59Speaker 10that separate, anything, anything related to segregation, anything- Related to saying, "Hey, you're black, I'm white," and breeding that, that just creates division. It doesn't do, it's not- I'm wearing a↗

1:18:11Ian Malcolmred shirt, in your profile or a red hoodie. If I say that you're wearing a red hoodie, does that create division?↗

1:18:18Speaker 10it's a false equivalency. No, it doesn't. But Rabbi- I'm answering Rabbi's↗

1:18:23Ian Malcolmquestion.↗

1:18:26Ian MalcolmAre you offended that I say that you have a red hoodie in your profile?↗

1:18:31Speaker 10I wouldn't be offended if you called me black, because maybe you just live in a trailer park and you just have never been anywhere and don't travel, maybe you don't know what you are.↗

1:18:42Ian MalcolmWait, hang on, do you perceive it as an insult if I say that you are a black person?↗

1:18:48Speaker 10No, I said I wouldn't take it as an insult.↗

1:18:50Ian MalcolmOkay, but you seemingly did, because you were framing it as if, if I said that, it would therefore equate to me being an asshole. No, I↗

1:18:56Speaker 10was just trying to give you information. I don't-- I wasn't offended by it. I'm not offended if people, people have different perspectives on different things. People have different opinions. It's just, it's an opinion, that's fine. If you don't-- you may think that calling people black and white, white doesn't create division. Why would it create division↗

1:19:16Speaker 10Because you're literally, 'cause it's, you're literally dividing people in a place where we're all Americans. We're all Americans. We're, well, so we're-- If you are a midget, can I↗

1:19:28Ian Malcolmcall you a midget? Am I creating division or am I just stating the obvious?↗

1:19:34Speaker 10A midget from America? Yeah, I mean, yeah, why not just call them↗

1:19:37Ian Malcolmwhere they're from? If I said you're a midget, would you find that as me creating division or would that just me be, being stating reality?↗

1:19:44Speaker 10Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say that it would be creating division as if the midget Are you gonna let me finish what I'm saying or are you just gonna keep interrupting↗

1:19:54Ian Malcolmme? I'm not, I'm, I mean, I'm trying to have a conversation. It's a very-- So, so if I say that you are- Yes, and↗

1:19:59Speaker 10I said-- And I'm answering the question.↗

1:20:00Ian MalcolmYou're, you're-- I think, yes,↗

1:20:02Speaker 10I think- Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I think if, yeah, I'm just trying to have this back and forth with you. Yes, if some- if you're in America and you're in the presence of another American and you're like, I don't know what context it would be where you say, "Hey, you're a midget," but, hey, it's-- you could just say, maybe you're playing a game in a pool and it's, it's the other guy's turn and you're like, "Hey, it's the midget's turn," right? It can create division. It's↗

1:20:31Speaker 1like, oh, no, actually, I'm actually-- The midget↗

1:20:34@malleusigcouldn't reach over the pool table, so I probably wouldn't↗

1:20:36Ian Malcolmbe playing with him.↗

1:20:38@malleusigAll right. But Tom, listen, listen, I, I, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be as fair as possible here. I don't understand First of all, what your argument is, because it sounds like to me, I've been in this entire discussion, we're not calling anybody anything. We're simply recognizing the fact that they happen to be black or white or, you know, whatever. Correct. Right. Right. And you, you mentioned, well, well, well, well, go ahead, go ahead. Hold on a second. You get, hold on, hold on a second. You get a much better reception if you just wait people to finish talking, right? Just free advice, right? no one's assigning↗

1:21:14@malleusigJust recognizing the fact that there exists people that are black or white, and I, I don't understand how recognizing that fact would be sowing division. Like, why, sure, why are you, why are you pushing this wedge?↗

1:21:29Speaker 10Sure, let me keep pushing the wedge. Because that is something unique to what you are doing. It's if you are in, again, anywhere else, I don't know if you've, again, had the privilege of traveling, if you are anywhere, if I'm in Africa, I'm not going to say I'm black. I'm not going to go, there's no context in which it comes up that, hey, I'm black or you're black. We're, we're not having this discussion. You may be from a certain truck.↗

1:22:00@malleusigUncle Tom, if you go to Africa, you will be black because that's what they call black Americans to differentiate them from Africans, because they hate black Americans. No, no, no, no. No, I would say I'm West Indian because they- Uncle Tom, they don't hate you because you're black, they hate you because you're American. Okay? So you will be black, that's how they differentiate- So I'd be American? No, you'll be black and black and American. If that doesn't↗

1:22:23Ian Malcolmchange,↗

1:22:23Speaker 10then you're still black. I'm still confused.↗

1:22:25Speaker 1Uncle Tom, you said you're West Indian, how long has your family been in this country?↗

1:22:30Speaker 10since '75.↗

1:22:32Speaker 1Since '75? 1975. Okay, yeah, you don't really have- Correct. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, since 1975. There you go.↗

1:22:42Speaker 10No. I, I don't know, I don't get why it's funny. I don't-- Can you explain or defend a position or can you make an argument or what do↗

1:22:51Speaker 1you- Well, listen, if you stop, damn, why don't even the island niggas can't shut the fuck up? dude, just chill out. The reason for why I'm saying that is that you wouldn't know if you're black going somewhere else and going to Africa, you're gonna say that you're a black American, you're gonna make that distinction, and it's very obvious from behavior, from the way we speak, everything, it shows. Like, I'm not even talking about like low IQ Shaniah who's going, I'm talking about Marcus and, Diane, they're going over to Africa for a trip that they can afford, you can't even tell that they're black, and they're going to identify as That's ever traveled does that. Now, when any African that's ever met a Black American coming over to their country, they won't make that distinction. Oh, yeah, they, they black, they different. Yeah, we African and all that, but I'm an Black American and they're an African in terms of the continental, this is where they come from, that's it. So, I mean, I, I really don't know what you're trying to make here. Really, who cares? You know, we don't talk like this outside of America. Okay, well, you're in America, and this is how we talk, and we don't give a fuck what anyone else has to say about what we're talking about, 'cause it only matters to America. I don't know why foreigners and anchor babies and, you know, these two↗

1:24:11Speaker 1It's very fucking simple. We talk like this over here, we say this shit over here, you know? I, I'm gonna get my niggas speak now. We be talking like this over here, man. Come on.↗

1:24:21Speaker 10Oh, okay. I mean- That's fine. I mean, I don't, I don't think, you know, that, that point really resonated. All you-- Basically, what, if I can try to steelman you, what you said is if I go to Africa, they'll say, "Oh, you're a black American."↗

1:24:37Speaker 1Steelmailing and, and false, false equivalencies, please. Please put the repose↗

1:24:41Speaker 10away, please. I, I get you're trying to do your comedy bit, but can let's, let's have this conversation real↗

1:24:48Speaker 1quick.↗

1:24:50Speaker 10I'm like this all day, every You said if I go to Africa, they would say, "Oh, you're a black American." Okay, great, yes, some people may. Everything you stated was just your opinion, right? And so I, I do travel and I am out of the country as we speak, okay? So, they-- Some, some may say that.↗

1:25:11Ian MalcolmUncle Tom, have you applied for a job?↗

1:25:15Speaker 10I'm,↗

1:25:15Ian MalcolmI'm listening. No, have you applied for a job? Yes. Okay, when you fill out the form and it says what is your race, do you put white, black, do you put that you are Native American? If I answer↗

1:25:26Speaker 10that question, will you answer one of my questions?↗

1:25:29Ian MalcolmI mean, it seems like a pretty straightforward question. If I↗

1:25:31Speaker 10answer the question, will you answer one of my questions? I'm happy to↗

1:25:33Ian Malcolmanswer any question. Okay, great. Yes.↗

1:25:36Speaker 10If they're, if they- If I was filling out an application and they put a number of different races, I would-- and the only options were, say, black and white, I would put black. Are they racist for asking you that question? I didn't call anybody racist. I never called anybody here racist. I don't think you're racist. Are they creating the-- Look at the timeline. Some people have said you're racist. I want you to-- I want↗

1:25:58Ian Malcolmyou to take a deep breath. You are losing your cool.↗

1:26:02Speaker 10Well, stop strawmanning↗

1:26:04Ian Malcolmme. I'm, I'm actually trying to mute you so we Yeah, it's very strange. are they creating division when they ask for your race?↗

1:26:14Speaker 10Oh, oh, you said I could an-ask you a question after I answered your question. You're↗

1:26:18Ian Malcolmwelcome to ask a question. Why are you losing points? Okay, so, so↗

1:26:21Speaker 10whose idea was it to put that on a job application? Whose idea was that?↗

1:26:26Ian MalcolmI would say it's mandated by BlackRock, which is run by Jews, but that's a whole different conversation.↗

1:26:31Speaker 10There you go, bingo. Okay. So that is-- Why don't↗

1:26:36Ian Malcolmyou think this↗

1:26:38Speaker 10is a win? I'm-- Why it's not a win that, that the Jew-- that your claim is that the Jew put that on? It doesn't change the fact that you're↗

1:26:44Ian Malcolmstill black. What, why do you view that as a win? Was that to create↗

1:26:47Speaker 10division or not? Were the Jews trying to create division or not? Or were they trying to be like, "Wait, wait, wait," and do something good? If the↗

1:26:54Ian MalcolmJews created math, which they didn't, I wouldn't blame math↗

1:27:01Speaker 10The Jews. Okay. Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to answer. No, it's not the Jews↗

1:27:06Speaker 1at all, because people all throughout human history have made distinctions between two different peoples. I mean, it's something that's very common. Yes, and what distinction do they make? If you're in Finland,↗

1:27:15Speaker 10what distinction do they make? They would still make a racial distinction. They're talking about↗

1:27:19Speaker 1countries and nationalities. Yeah, there's still going to be a phenotypic-- I can see this person has longer hair. Oh, they have-- Right, right, right, right.↗

1:27:31Speaker 1Now let me, let me crash the plane for you. So I'm gonna, I have my group of people, we look alike, okay? We have these features. We're gonna create a little clan, us clan, we do have power, we do things. We meet other clan, have s-different features. They in clan. We make distinctions between who's a part of this clan and that clan. Very simple, very basic shit. Animals do this all the time throughout, all throughout the animal kingdom. Okay,↗

1:27:55Speaker 10that's fine, that's fine. Have you-- I'm gonna just say this Like, you never wanted to know what somebody's, like, where they're from, like their ethnicity? No, I don't↗

1:28:07Speaker 1care. I don't give a fuck about that. I wanna know like, where'd your family come from? Oh, they came from Virginia, Alabama. You asked me where- So you only care, so just to get this correct, you only↗

1:28:14Speaker 10care if they're black or white. That's all you cared about.↗

1:28:18Ian MalcolmWhy, why are you making this black and white absurd hyper-reduction on the conversation?↗

1:28:24Speaker 10Okay, well that's fine, I'll move on.↗

1:28:26Ian MalcolmNo, it's not fine. Where has anybody suggested what you just kind of↗

1:28:30Speaker 10blanket↗

1:28:30Ian Malcolmin the whole thing? No, I'm saying, I was--↗

1:28:32Speaker 10My claim was that all you're doing is literally the same thing as what the FBAs do. That's literally it. Okay, okay, okay. Just make this distinction.↗

1:28:41Ian MalcolmSo your suggestion is that I'm creating division amongst the races by trying to construct what I believe is a positive conversation on how we move the races forward. That's, that's what you're going to suggest, is that right↗

1:28:54Speaker 10no, that's not steelmanning what I said. I didn't even say any of that. Oh, how are we gonna- But I, but I can, I can make a different claim, and that claim would be it creates division. Oh, you're, you actually more lean into IQ, and that, and you can correct me. Which I have a↗

1:29:12Ian Malcolmvery low IQ, yes. Sure.↗

1:29:13Speaker 10And you can correct me, how many standard deviations lower?↗

1:29:17Ian MalcolmI mean statistically, probably at least one.↗

1:29:19Speaker 10okay. Yeah, sure. Okay. That's--↗

1:29:21Ian MalcolmNo, that's the statistics. I'm going off of statistics. That is statistically what is likely the difference.↗

1:29:29Speaker 10Okay, sure. But, but yet you're having trouble understanding what I'm saying here. That's the data. Oh, okay. Okay, great, but that means nothing. I'm gonna just put that my argument to you. It means↗

1:29:41Ian Malcolmsomething. You don't get to just define what things mean.↗

1:29:43Speaker 10Okay, okay, okay. So, so, what I, I'm, my claim is that it's actually, it may-- I'm take that back. It may mean something, but it, like, it really is a waste of time trying to do anything about it, trying to eugenics people or whatever you're trying to do. It's like literally Does it's not gonna work? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.↗

1:30:07@malleusigHow the fuck did you go from what we were talking about to someone's trying to eugenize people? Oh, okay, so, so↗

1:30:16Speaker 10you don't want eugenics, you don't care about IQ and how- Where did anybody- No, no one mentioned↗

1:30:21Ian Malcolmeugenics.↗

1:30:23Speaker 1I, I did earlier, no, you didn't. Right, but telling↗

1:30:24Speaker 10people to mate with certain- An IQ level is GenX. What are you talking about? Wait, telling- Are you claiming that you don't want that?↗

1:30:33Speaker 1That's just a natural thing that we want to do, right? It's something that- No, nobody↗

1:30:38Speaker 10needs to get angry, Ian. You don't need to get angry, dude. If I'm, if I'm straw maning you, just say it. No, I don't care about IQ. I don't.↗

1:30:46Ian MalcolmI do care an immense amount about IQ. I think you have a very low one, and I don't know if you're intentionally gaslighting The most recent being that we're up here creating racial division amidst a space where we're trying to do the antithesis of that, because we're noting the degeneracy in the society that in particular has dragged down the black community, which I think Andre did a really nice job of outlining. You were desperate to come up here and try and construct a, a dispute or a fight or to create some kind of tension, probably because I made a video about our last engagement in which you looked like an absolute clown, because you don't know how to formulate an opinion or put together Together, a intel-- intelligent demonstration of said opinion, so much so that multiple people on this very panel, not even me, and I have no bias, you're, you're welcome to come up, not again, because it's a waste of time, but multiple people on this very panel had no idea what you were even trying to suggest. And then on multiple occasions, you said things that are just ludicrous, like, for example, that to say somebody is black is creating division. You then presumed on your side that me saying that you are black is somehow- A slight. What might that say about the view that you have of the black community? If you say that I'm white, I don't think you're offending me, because I think white people are pretty awesome. I take no shame in that, no insecurity in that. But you seem terribly offended. If somebody note that you are black, which is really weird, 'cause what we're trying to do is to lift up the black community. I think Andre does a wonderful job of precisely that. Now, if I said that you are a midget and you are in fact a midget, you're probably not gonna be upset about that unless you're insecure about the fact that you are. So perhaps you should evaluate and examine what it is and why it is that merely labeling a thing that is a thing upsets and offends you. It's not creating division if you're driving a Honda versus driving a Ferrari. That's a description of reality. Now, maybe you get a big grin on your face if you're driving a Ferrari because you associate that with being something superior. That's not what I'm doing. It's not what anybody in here is doing. Andre is advocating for intellect, for nuclear families, and for the aspiration that people actually utilize their minds to try and make a better tomorrow. That's a good thing. Coming up here and trying to create an argument 'cause you're petty and you're really butt hurt because I embarrassed you in another space, and I'll put that up in the nest just so other↗

1:33:13Ian MalcolmSomething better than that. That was just really weak.↗

1:33:18Speaker 12Ian, I, I think I understand where he was coming from. I, I, I'll just tell you that I've been around people who are like,↗

1:33:32Ian MalcolmDon, Donna. Yeah, Donna, are you a woman?↗

1:33:34Speaker 12But I'm trying to tell↗

1:33:34Ian Malcolmyou that- Okay, okay, if I say Donna, you're a woman.↗

1:33:38Speaker 12I've met black people that have just immigrated. Credit to the country, they look down on American black people.↗

1:33:49Ian MalcolmWell, maybe, maybe he does, but Donna, I want, I want to play the game. you're cutting out really poorly. I↗

1:33:53Speaker 12want↗

1:34:01Ian Malcolmto play the game with you. Telling you that- Oh, no, we're not gonna- Donna, Donna By noting your gender, that's basically what the last speaker was inherently doing, right? It's a reasonable thing to be able to define the world, whether it's the color T-shirt you're wearing, right? And this idea that merely defining things as they are, then that would mean that our fellow here with his red hoodie, that him choosing to wear anything is creating division, because how else can I not note the thing that he is, right? Therefore, we all have to wear the exact same clothes because otherwise we're creating division. This is how low IQ this rhetoric was, right? And so it's very strange, but people wanna come in here, Andre, I'm sure you deal with it all the time, it's just, I actually find it hyper frustrating, but apparently noting that we have any differences at all, if you're right or left handed, if you wear a size eight or twelve or thirteen shoe, it's creating division. So God bless on our, our, our efforts to try and create a utopia where we're literally all the same. We also have to get rid of, I suppose, gender, Otherwise we got division,↗

1:35:12Speaker 13guys. Can't have that. Yeah, in other words, everybody shut the fuck up and accept your demographic label, and if the Jews' forced miscegenation Kudinov-Kalergi plan works then we can all be gay, hold hands, sing "Kumbaya," share a coke and a fuckin' smile. But for now, use black, nigga, I'm white. If you want blacks to be Donna, if you want blacks to be perceived better, behave like Andre. What are you, twenty-five, Andre? You're mature as fuck beyond your years, homie. So that's, that's all. This, this sensitivity and political correctness Faggotry needs to be like stabbed in the fucking heart, and we need to tell the truth to get out of this. Okay, I'll shut up, thanks.↗

1:35:59Ian MalcolmAnd, and let's go to cultivating just to continue the conversation moving forward. But cultivating, am I terribly missing something? Because maybe Rabbi and Andre and Joanne and I are all just absolute idiots, and there was some very valid points that were made, but maybe, maybe we're mistaken.↗

1:36:17Speaker 3No, absolutely not. That's why I came out of the mic and said what I said when he told me to, somehow be quiet. But, no, we don't walk around and say, "Hey, I'm black, I'm white." We don't do that. That's obvious, right? So, I don't understand this, argument, honestly. You guys explained it well. And what's up, Andre? Good to see you.↗

1:36:39Speaker 1What's up, what's up. Long time no see, long time no see.↗

1:36:44@joann_marieYeah, good to see you all. Your PF is awesome cultivating.↗

1:36:47Speaker 3And now, listen, they call me, Nazi Whisperer, and I always deliver.↗

1:36:53Speaker 1That's true, that's true. I saw the, the profile picture one day, I was like, "That's base. That's fucking base. "I hate that's pretty base. " But yeah, it's good to hear from you, good to see you. Of course,↗

1:37:05Speaker 3but, but continue this amazing conversation, please.↗

1:37:07Ian MalcolmWell, and, and just really quickly, cultivating, I know you hold a lot of conversations like this, kind of curious if you've noticed a increase or decrease in the temperature of those conversations. Are people getting a little bit more comfortable with these subjects and just honestly kind of evaluating the world, or do things seem to be getting worse?↗

1:37:28Speaker 3honestly, Ian, I did stop doing spaces. Like, I, I was doing it three times a week, and I stopped. I'm just doing it maybe once a week, maybe, because it gets to a point where, like, you are talking to a brick. Like, it gets frustrating. My energy gets sucked, you know? While we're doing the spaces, because it doesn't enter their mind and,↗

1:37:51Speaker 3So, I'm not giving up, but I'm sorta kinda giving up. Doesn't make sense? I'm tired.↗

1:37:57Speaker 1I want to maybe talk to niggas all, all day. Niggas. Niggas, I, I don't know how you do it. I, I can't talk to niggas all damn day like that. That just gotta, I just walked away. Okay, nigga, you know, don't smoke crack over there. That was a nice conversation, and just keep it moving.↗

1:38:16Speaker 3Yeah, things are getting worse, Ian, and This is getting bad.↗

1:38:22Ian MalcolmWell, four thumbs. But, I, I think, I think we're moving them forward. I think we're having productive conversations, and, I think we're banding people together as best we can on these kind of uncomfortable, topics. But nonetheless, let's, let's continue moving through some of the, the hands, Joanne, and we'll recycle some, some folks up 'cause we got a lot of requests.↗

1:38:41@joann_marieAlright, and guys, please repost this stage and follow Ian and Andrea, our amazing speakers, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. Alright, Truth Seeker, go for it!↗

1:38:53Speaker 14Alright, finally. That's just bringing this car back, back into the lane. that was, pretty fruitful. Andre, good to see you. I was told about you. Actually, Uncle Tom, the person he was talking about, I think he was talking about me, 'cause I was the one that said that. And the reason I said that anyway was to clarify that,↗

1:39:15Speaker 14I, I get his point, but like, I wanna be considered an African American to at least get a label on me that isn't just like very broad and basic. I want something that's close As a history of our African American community, unfortunately, is, isn't slavery, and I am, like, I can remember one of my, grandparents who was born on a plantation, so to me, that was my context of why I said that. But I wanna, I wanna g- get away from that topic because that was, that's not important. We, we need to move on to more important things here. it was funny because I was actually watching your "The Four Kinds of Black Americans," video because I was told about it, then, you know, I came on Twitter while I was playing, and I just so happened to see you on this page, so I, I started jumping in, you know, I know in me have, talked before, so this is actually a, a↗

1:40:06Speaker 14very You're actually twenty-five years old. You're young, 'cause, you know, you sounded pretty wise, like you're, you're basically Aaron McGruder, and I'm sure you know him, the, Boondocks creator. he's like fifty years old at this point, but you're-- the fact that you're saying this at twenty-five is a very big, big boon. So I'm glad to see that you already have these thoughts formulated. So that means you, you have a bright future ahead of you, essentially, or a dark future, you know,↗

1:40:32Speaker 14for,↗

1:40:39Speaker 14Throw the ball back and forth between you, to see if you, see what your thoughts are. let's see, first thing I wanna bring up is essentially the, you guys went over so many topics, I'm not gonna go over them 'cause I know you're tired and you probably wanna sleep at some point.↗

1:40:55Speaker 14first thing, the, the reparations argument, you know? We don't need 'em, and, and if anything, the Jews, like, they're literally the ones who are reparations, like, that's, that was the reason for the Holocaust, right? Now, now you have like internal reparations, and while we got, they pulled the ladder up and us blacks, we didn't get anything after that, although some people will, some people will say the welfare state is technically our reparations, but, I mean, with all the money we're getting, we're not doing anything with that.↗

1:41:22Speaker 14I'll also say a, a, a side effect of that also is that, NFL and NBA, which are also owned by Jews, they have given Black American, a ladder up into the upper class, you know, now they're freaking-- I love watching the NFL draft because I don't care about the picks, I care about watching all of the, the, the young blacks, and well, the Mizz kids, they're coming up this year, essentially sitting there, you know, with their families, the Black families, and they're like, " You know, you know, yeah, he's for this, this, this team or this team. I'm just sitting there and they're like all celebrating, but they're not celebrating for his success, they're celebrating 'cause to them it's just about money, right? And so, it's-- there's no intellect there of like, they didn't get there on their own, they literally got there for throwing the football. I hate the, I hate the shit on those sports, but unfortunately that's, they're getting paid way too much for what they're doing, Like I don't, I don't care what LeBron James says, he like, he, he's not educ- he's not literate, he's not educational, like, in no sense of the word, and yet we're, we're tryin', we're sitting here listening to him like he's God, right?↗

1:42:35Speaker 14but, you know, there's, there's some comedians who are, are much better prophets of the, like, I'm a, I'm a big fan of Eddie, Eddie, Griffin, for instance, right? You know, it's like, there's an initiation to any gang, like he, he, he, well, he was making a joke about bringing over the, us as slaves, right? but essentially, like, that's,↗

1:42:56Speaker 14oh, did he leave?↗

1:43:00Ian MalcolmNo, he's, he's requesting. Oh, okay. Must have had an issue with this connection.↗

1:43:09Speaker 15Yeah, and I'm just curious, so are Jews white? No.↗

1:43:13@joann_marieAbsolutely not.↗

1:43:14Speaker 15Okay, so that's what that dude was trying to say. I don't think he was able to articulate it in the right, the right way, but he's trying to explain that Jews have similar features to white people. Andre actually said that word for word. He said, "Oh, you know, people look the same, they're, they're in the same group because they're share similar features. Jews do share similar features to white people. They have the same skin tone. Why wouldn't they be considered white with that same look?" Is an↗

1:43:38Ian MalcolmAsian person considered white? No, I think that they're different. But, but, I'm not following↗

1:43:43Speaker 15your white/black rule. But↗

1:43:44Ian Malcolmyou recognize that Asian people can have pigments that look very similar to white people, right?↗

1:43:50Speaker 15Yeah, absolutely, but that's what I'm saying. So there is a difference between people.↗

1:43:56Speaker 15No, of course, of course, Asians aren't white.↗

1:43:57Ian MalcolmSo,↗

1:43:58Speaker 15so, so I'm just saying there is more than just black, white, no? Are we following just black, white, or is there more races? I'm back. I'm back. I↗

1:44:04Speaker 1hope you guys can hear↗

1:44:07Speaker 8me,↗

1:44:09Ian Malcolmgo for it.↗

1:44:11Speaker 8No, I was just gonna say I can, I can easily identify you, like in like two seconds, and even like when I wasn't this logical, I was like, "Oh yeah, that's a Jew, all right." Just decided to keep my closure. It's like me seeing a Somali and any other black, it's like, "Dude, I just see like black and like, and then I see Somalis, and it's like, yeah, same skin tone, but holy fuck, their heads are the size of a hot air balloon. It's very↗

1:44:38Speaker 1You're arguing that dude's point. So, you know, I, I can tell an Eastern European from, you know, a, a Western European. It's very simple. Or I agree. Or Northern Europe from Southern Europe. I mean, these things are very distinctive. These characteristics are very obvious. Jews, even though, you know, we even look at Ashkenazi Jews, they still have a significant ancestry, line going back to the Levant. So it's very-- and you can see it, pigmentation, hair color, hair texture, so on, structure of the Like hidden. Like, no, it's, you can see it clear as day. I can tell. I don't disagree with that at all.↗

1:45:14Speaker 15What I'm saying is, is that we would also describe a Black American, for example, different than a Somali. So why would you just group them in the same category as Black? Like, what is your justification to put them just in the same category like that?↗

1:45:27Speaker 8No, I mean, I agree with you a hundred percent.↗

1:45:30Speaker 1Yeah, like what, what you're talking about. The reason, the reason is that Black, I don't want to talk You know, African race or the African peoples, yes, given the history across the diaspora, and no different than White Americans are part of the European peoples, European identity, European culture, but they're very distinctive and separate. And when it comes to race here in America, it's very clear that, you know, hey, I, I, I know this probably gonna piss off a few people, but, you know, White Americans and White Europeans are very different. Black Americans are absolutely different. So the reason for why we've kind of broken it down to just black- Black and white is an extension, and also just a clear distinction between both of our historical peoples. I mean, it, it's that obvious that I really don't know what you-- What are you asking me?↗

1:46:19Speaker 15I, I agree with you a hundred percent. Black and white is an old American rule, of course, but that only applies to Americans. We've obviously imported the whole entire world, so there's different classifications of race, and a lot of these people who are coming in, especially Latin America, for example, they don't follow the same things that we follow. For example, the one drop↗

1:46:39Speaker 15As black through the one drop rule. So we can't really just sit there and say that. Wait, wait,↗

1:46:42@malleusigwait, wait, wait. For you to bring up the one drop rule in twenty twenty-six is absolutely fucking wild. The one drop rule- What are you talking about? I'm sitting here explaining that dude's point. Just what you're saying. The one drop rule is no longer relevant to- That's not even True Seeker, brother. Who, who is it?↗

1:46:58@malleusigit's the American, the American. Yeah, yeah, I'm just waiting for y'all to-↗

1:47:03Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on, hang on. We're gonna go to Rabbi, but here's what we're also gonna do. Everybody take a deep breath, 'cause I don't know why there's so much hostility, but, we should all be able to conduct ourselves like gentlemen. It's,↗

1:47:15Speaker 4it's a lot↗

1:47:16Speaker 1of sassy-ass men coming in, dude. I↗

1:47:17Speaker 8don't know- You know what's funny? Like the white, the white people are acting more like chicks than the I have a question for Audrey. What are you, what↗

1:47:30Ian Malcolmare you trying to convey? Wait a minute. I'm,↗

1:47:33@malleusigyeah, what are you saying? This is very weird, guys. Listen, we're getting, we're getting wrapped up in like these discussions that-- and it started with Uncle Tom, but like it's just con-continuing now over like the meanings of words that really don't have any impact on the discussion.↗

1:47:50Speaker 14Like, is this a coordinated↗

1:47:51@malleusigattack? What is this shit?↗

1:47:53Speaker 14Yeah, I just, yeah, that's why I was trying to keep it really back to like something more substantial. Like, these can be argued later.↗

1:48:00@joann_marieI appreciate that, Chris.↗

1:48:02@malleusigYeah. But listen, yeah, go ahead. We're gonna use, we're gonna use words in the way that we have learned to use words to facilitate the conversation. We're not going to like, this isn't a Jewish space, we're not gonna like take fifteen minutes and redefine every fucking word we use so that, everyone is happy before we move forward with the conversation. We're just gonna, we're gonna raw dog it, that's what Europeans do.↗

1:48:25Speaker 4That, that's why I said this is the most Reddit-fucking-tier conversation I've been in a minute, 'cause this is some shit you would find on, on, on fucking, I don't know, I'm trying to think of the word. That's some really weird shit, man. Crazy, dude. Like, nobody gives a- I don't know why we've been talking about this, but this is two motherfuckers have come in↗

1:48:42Speaker 4on time and on cue to have the same dumb-ass conversation. It's crazy.↗

1:48:46@malleusigAnd it, it's, it's effectively derailed the conversation↗

1:48:53Ian MalcolmI kinda want one more to come in. I don't know if this is- I, I, I get some crazies, that is for sure. You do.↗

1:49:01Speaker 1I kinda want one more to come in 'cause it's fucking entertaining, but come on, like, chill the fuck out.↗

1:49:07Ian MalcolmThey get, they get really excited, and you can always tell who it is, Andre, 'cause they come in and they're like, "Well, let me do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,↗

1:49:13Speaker 4Literally, both of them came in just rah rah rah like, "Oh, sassy as hell, dude. You guys are like fucking fags."↗

1:49:19@malleusigWe need to have like a rating system where like people that we don't see very often, we give them like a, a percentage rating, and we use that to decide whether to bring them up on stage or not.↗

1:49:31Speaker 1I like the chaos, dude. I, I'll let anybody up. If I'm doing spaces or anything like that, I'll let everybody up. Just talk the shit. It's entertaining, you know? But I get it, We're trying to have a serious↗

1:49:42@malleusigconversation. We're not in here trying to, like, talk about, you know, black men versus black women or some shit. Like, we're actually trying to solve a problem here.↗

1:49:51Speaker 11Ian, can I jump in for a minute? Of course. and I, I apologize on my, my laptop because Apple's fucking around with my damn login code, so my new phone to put the app on is kinda screwed up at the time. Ian, I've been following you for the last couple days 'cause I crawled back into the space. And nobody really knows me here. I was once a best time, best selling author, and I had a severe experience,↗

1:50:23Speaker 11back in 2010, where I dropped dead for 10 minutes on a city bus in a snowstorm just outside of Niagara Falls, Canada, and I spent- The book is basically about the whole experience of after I died and was basically sitting laying there on the city bus and the events that took place were basically over a ten minute period from 9:25 AM till 9:35 AM,↗

1:50:59Speaker 11on February 26, 2010. And A being came and collected me and took me off to a space that↗

1:51:12Speaker 11I don't wanna go too far into that, but-↗

1:51:14Ian MalcolmYeah, what is happening right now?↗

1:51:16Speaker 11I,↗

1:51:20Speaker 11I was taught a lot of stuff by, by three- Beans, if you wanna call it that. No, no, no. But, okay, so that's not the topic↗

1:51:29@joann_marieof this place. Just,↗

1:51:32Ian Malcolmjust no! We, we, we have- Crazy people coming in. Alan, I don't, I'm not, not trying to, to diminish what you might be suggesting. if you are from Independence Day, which, Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith are both in, and they have the guy who talks about getting taken up by the aliens, if that's where you're going, we're actually doing an alien space in, the month of June. You're welcome to attend. You can also send me a DM if you would like with some of your experiences. Please leave out any references to any sexual anything. I↗

1:52:06Ian MalcolmAnd I, I frankly don't tell me anything about the bean people. But, we're gonna try and go back if we can, Andre. We're gonna try and have a normal↗

1:52:15Speaker 4conversation. As, as it- Yeah, and- As one of those, I thought it was gonna be a wholesome story, like, you know, I died and I came back and I found God.↗

1:52:28Speaker 16It was one of those aliens I would just, I, we swore him to secrecy, so I'm surprised he's just blabbing everything now. I,↗

1:52:34@malleusigI, I'm actually a big fan of narrative experiences, and I was curious, but as a service to anyone else that is gonna come up and has something to say, I would recommend if you want to stay on stage, tell us why the convoluted story you're about to launch into is relevant first. Before you launch into it. Otherwise, what just happened to this guy is likely to happen to you,↗

1:53:00Speaker 4okay? Let's go to, Carla D. Let me see what Carla D has to say.↗

1:53:08Speaker 17Hi. Hi. Can you hear me? Yeah, can you louder? Go ahead. You're welcome. Go↗

1:53:12@joann_marieahead.↗

1:53:13Speaker 17Oh, oh, okay. Thank you. So this is a very, you know, an interesting space here. I'm, a black woman, and, I was here and kind of shocked to hear that I guess Ian Malcolm and, Andre are good friends, and I wanted to ask Andre, does he climax every time Ian calls you a nigger? There we go. There we go. I↗

1:53:41@malleusigknew, I was actually excited about having a black woman on stage, but then you had to go and destroy my hopes. No,↗

1:53:49Speaker 17I just want-- Does he get off on that, Carla? What self-respecting black man allows that? When, when did Ian call him that? Yeah, Carl. I can't hear, I can't- Many people are talking at the same time.↗

1:54:02@malleusigI just wanna hear you say, "I don't have to give you my ID." I'm↗

1:54:08Speaker 17saying, "Oh, oh, okay."↗

1:54:11Ian Malcolmwait, wait, Carl, have I ever used that term in any capacity anywhere on this app? You did↗

1:54:16Speaker 17it, you did in here, you did↗

1:54:17Ian Malcolmin here. And I heard that included. No, I, I did,↗

1:54:19Speaker 17I, yeah,↗

1:54:20Ian Malcolmbut Carl, I've never used that term anywhere on this app ever.↗

1:54:25Speaker 17No, you didn't, you didn't. I promise you, Carla. I promise you,↗

1:54:29Speaker 16Carla. I,↗

1:54:30Ian MalcolmI, I said never said↗

1:54:31Speaker 16it. And Carla, if that word is a, if using that word is a disease, I think you're a carrier.↗

1:54:36Ian MalcolmAnd, and Carla, for what it's worth, that is because of the, attempt at respecting- And I know you- I'm going to absolutely mute you. that is my attempt at being respectful to the public square. I'm an absolutist when it comes to free speech. If other people wanna use that term↗

1:54:55Ian MalcolmFor you to suggest that you be the speech police. Oh no, off limit terms. No, that's not how it works. I do that out of respect for other people 'cause I try to be a respectful person. You're welcome to look up the term my handle with F at # sign, CK, and all sorts of other words that if I use profanity, I will put asterisks or other things in there 'cause I like to be professional and mature. Don't put words in my mouth. It's, it's, it's beyond unreasonable. But isn't it strange that in all sincerity, trying to have a reasoned conversation about this topic results in people coming up and just throwing out outlandish accusations? What does that say? Why are we in a society where that can't take place? We can't have men and women respectfully discussing the differences in, in our people and how maybe we've got some areas where we should improve. And I say that for all groups. I'm happy to condemn white people who don't recognize Jewish supremacy. I do it in every space I go into, right? It's a perfectly reasonable thing. I will critique my own people on all sorts of things. If we talk about the black community, you get people coming out of the woodwork, very About that, even if we do it maturely and lovingly and caringly and compassionately, it might tell us something about the, the prospective group of people that maybe we're talking about, that Andre talks very intell-intelligently about. But anyway, let's go to Zora.↗

1:56:21@joann_marieThe, it's been three years and I've never heard Ian say any curse word, like not shit, not fuck, like nothing, like nothing. Today, I even sent him a message. I said,↗

1:56:31Ian MalcolmI said, "I said, "Gary, Gary, Gary," the other day, the three-letter rendition of it.↗

1:56:35@malleusigYeah. He's almost, he's almost quaint the way he limits his language. And, Karla, if you're still here, I just wanna remind you, you are black, so you've heard this before, but many of our white listeners haven't. It's not what they call you, it's what you answer to. And I think you just demonstrated for us what you answer to on the space. Thank you very much.↗

1:56:56@joann_marieAlso, which curse word did you say? I want↗

1:57:03Ian Malcolmto like listen↗

1:57:11Ian Malcolmback.↗

1:57:16@joann_marieThis↗

1:57:17Ian Malcolmis like,↗

1:57:23Ian Malcolmno Oh, he was refusing to answer a hypothetical question, and I said, "What if I hypothetically kick you off the platform or something along those lines?" Out of the space I think it was. But, yeah, the world is ridiculous.↗

1:57:40@malleusigOh, yeah, yeah.↗

1:57:42Ian MalcolmLet's, let's go to, let's, let's, let's check in with Colin. I'll be very curious for some of his thoughts, and then we will go over to Black American Homeland.↗

1:57:51Speaker 18What's up, Ian? I, you know, I've been enjoying the spaces very much the past couple of days. You know, me and the, the racialism topic is-- I haven't had the chance to speak too much, but I've been thoroughly enjoying it. It's very good. to what Cultivating said though earlier though, I do think it's getting like, much more tense than it has ever been on the app, you know? I tend to, I spend, some time in the anonymous and some of the FBA spaces and such as well still,↗

1:58:20Speaker 18Rhetoric and see what, they're talking about and all this other stuff, and it's getting very tense all around. I was scrolling through Carla's profile there, and it was hard to tell whether or not she hated the Africans more or whether or not she hated white people more based on what she was posting. And you see this kind of, these other, you know, tensions that aren't even just black and white anymore, especially when we're talking about, like, in America specifically, you have these other, like, outside, you know, we're, we, The same as well, and, it's not getting any better. There, there's, there's no improvements happening or anything like that so far from the discourse, from what I can tell. But maybe that's a white pill. Maybe that just lends more toward, like, alright, well, listen, maybe if we can't get along, we ought to just, you know, if you can't say nothing nice, we should just not say anything at all and perhaps separate into our own spaces, you know, and, go about life that way and try it with this approach versus trying↗

1:59:20Speaker 16My friend, I think you kind of missed the point. So, racial realism in talking about it isn't about being nice or not nice. It's the idea that understanding what is true is important, and I think that's important in 360 degrees for everybody, don't you agree with that?↗

1:59:38Speaker 18Well, I don't care if it's nice or not nice, that wasn't the point that I was making. what, what I'm saying is that I think that it's largely fruitless for people that don't care about understanding truth.↗

1:59:47Speaker 16Well, that, that seems to be the observation that I'm making from other people engaging in this. But that's the way of-- That's the way people engaging in this. But that's the way the discussion of all ideas is, right? So the half-wits and people who have no facility to truth, you know, this was Parmenides↗

2:00:00Speaker 19point, he said only a, most, there are only a certain percentage of people really care about tru- the truth, and the rest just care about opinions. And so these kind of discussions, you know, you have to lead, right? And the way you do is you have discussions. Now, I will say Talking about it, I think, I think, Denude's, division, I think not talking about it increases division. If you don't acknowledge a problem or dispossess people of something that's irrational, then it's, you're, it's going to bite you because, you know, if you deny reality, reality tends to win after it denies you. What do you think about that?↗

2:00:36Speaker 20Well, I don't hold the position that we shouldn't talk about it.↗

2:00:39Speaker 19But I hold, I hold the position that it's beneficial to talk about it. I↗

2:00:44Speaker 20Yes, but not in the sense that, where it's more so it's beneficial for people like these sorts of in-group preference differences aren't going to change. Oh, I suppose whenever we're engaging in debate generally, it's so that the other party understands. But really, at the end of the day, no, it seems to be that this is more so in performance for the audience and for other people that haven't quite made their minds up yet. It doesn't seem to me that we're gonna make any inroads with the people that oppose this position at this point. Right now, it's just about winning hearts and minds from the looks of it. So we should continue to have the conversations because of that, but not because we think that the opposite-- or↗

2:01:24Speaker 19Well, okay, my only difference with you there, my friend, is I don't think I'm talking about the opposition. I just think I'm talking about what's true and what's false. I think if we talk about-- it's hard for people to deny the truth once it's well understood and well-populated, you know, popu-popularized, I'm sorry, expressed out in society.↗

2:01:45Speaker 20Wouldn't you say that those that aren't in search of the truth but are still engaging in the discourse are opposition here?↗

2:01:51Speaker 19I'm sorry?↗

2:01:52Speaker 20They're, they're, they're definitionally in opposition to the truth if they're engaging in the discourse, yeah? They don't wanna get to the truth. Let's say they're engaging in the debate because it would be materialist-- it would be like materialistically negative for them if our worldview were to become mainstream or something like this.↗

2:02:10Speaker 19Yes, you're, sounds to me like you're saying someone who is trying to impose the heckler's veto, are they in opposition to the advancement of any idea? Absolutely. So we're just talking about people who have no facility to reason in truth versus people who do, and I'm sorry, but the former don't count. I mean, what do they have to say? Are they gonna come in and intellectualize why we shouldn't talk about the truth? That doesn't go very well, does it?↗

2:02:39Speaker 20I mean, I don't know what, what, what's- I'm not sure what the point is here exactly.↗

2:02:44Speaker 19Well, the point is that it benefits all humans to discover what is true. And the idea, you know, you can't love the truth without loving the truth that doesn't love you back, that doesn't hold your hand and kiss you on the cheek and tell you everything is okay, and it confirms your sympathies, it confirms your sentiments, your prejudices. Well, that's not what we do here, right? Of course, this is Thomas Jefferson's point. We should have a vigorous debate of ideas. That, it, it-- When I talk about things with people, I ask them, "Do you believe in right and wrong? Do you believe in truth and falsity?" So what you mean? No, no, no, not what I mean. Just do you believe there is an objective truth out there, irrespective of our, of our incapacity to discover it? And if they say yes, then they're my friend, good, let's have a, let's discuss, let's talk about this and challenge my ideas. Anybody that asserts, hypothesizes must defend. So anybody who asserts something has the obligation, if he pretends to be rational, to defend it. But, but everybody else, the hecklers, Vito, and people that say you↗

2:03:49Speaker 19Impact on civilization if everybody else will have the courage to talk. What do you think about that?↗

2:03:56Speaker 20Yeah, it's, it's the, the problem is that those that engage in the heckler's veto are oftentimes very persuasive and they can get people to not be in search of the truth, which is, to your point, the goal here. So if we don't have enough people that are in search of the truth because they're complacent or they don't care about the truth or whatever the reason is, then that's, that's gonna be problematic for us. I mean, I don't, That, engaging in this sort of debate, it needs to be very clear whenever we do it now that we're doing it for the benefit of other people, not to engage in real, s-like Socratic debate as we would with people whom we actually want to get down to the bottom of things with. Because those people generally that we're debating this racialism topic, especially if they're not the same race, aren't actually in search of the truth, even if they might be in most cases. A lot of times, this problem, because, it's something that's unavoidable and a, a few other reasons behind it, typically whether or not they're on, let's, let's say they're on welfare, or let's say that they have a mixed race child, or they have some sort of other thing that, that would sort of throw a wrench in this, even though they know that in For their current position in life, perhaps they don't wanna, you know, look at that truth. And this can be for the people that haven't made up their mind or don't have the knowledge yet, very problematic if that, if their voices are too loud. And frankly, I think that most people are racialist, race deniers. I mean, at least that's the mainstream discourse. You'd certainly get fired at most jobs and stuff like this in the current climate for being a outright racialist,↗

2:05:30Speaker 20even if you are simply being, you know, you know, even People have made up their mind to be racial realists in the West, that's for sure.↗

2:05:45@joann_marieDavid?↗

2:05:47Speaker 19Oh, no, I just, that's, that's, fine with me. I mean, of course, the idea is we talk about it more and it occurs more, like it's what we do here. So, I mean, you know, it's amazing because Ptolemaic astronomy lasted for a thousand years after really smart people had figured out that geocentrism, geocentrism wasn't the correct way to look at the universe, and then, you know, or two thousand years really, because Aristophanes and even Copernicus gave Aristophanes some So,↗

2:06:18Speaker 19so of course, it's possible that you can be way ahead of your time in talking about things, and the majority of people don't agree with them, but the idea is to talk about them anyway. In the long stretch of time, the truth does win out, right? Because the truth is, it corresponds to reality. Nature is a hundred percent consistent, and the function of the mind is to conform to nature. And so, who is more capable of doing that, tends to be more persuasive. And I agree with you that people have irons in the fire Where they're prejudiced, you know, this is-- that's a Nietzschean point, you know, people are guided by their will and their prejudices. However, through all of that, the truth does tend to win out over the long stretch of time. So why not say it? Why not have the discussion? And the ide-- and also, you'd be surprised at who might agree with you. People with all sorts of reasons to be prejudicial in the other direction can surprise you. You know, somewhere in, the blackest of black, black communities could be the next Copernicus, right? I mean, let's just forget, let's just take people on their individual basis, because there is no such thing-- there's no more collective mind than there is a collective orgasm, right? Individual by individual, how well can those people ascertain the truth? Well, it's our job to put it out there. It's not our job to force feed it down their throat if they won't take it.↗

2:07:36Ian MalcolmSo, David, I'm kind of curious because in this space seen some hostilities towards some of the views, but most curiously were some of those seemingly from black individuals frustrated with Andre's discussing these issues, and I'm curious if you have a thought on what might motivate that type of behavior.↗

2:07:57Speaker 19Well, you know what's funny is, I think that we're in, thanks to the political state We're in the reign of the Uncle Toms. On the Uncle Toms, there were actually those people, right? They're the Uncle Toms, because what does the political state do in the Jewish supremacists who have ruined, you know, inner city Black America? They said you can't do it. You can't make it on your own. What does the Uncle Tom say? We can't do it. We can't make it on our own. Now, doesn't this sound interesting that the slave master would say the exact same thing, and they think that the Uncle Tom is saying, "We can do it, we can make it on our own." They think the Uncle Tom is saying what Malcolm X said, which is, "You can blame the white man for putting you down, but you can't blame them for keeping you down, right?" So the, so the people that are calling for agency and↗

2:08:47Speaker 19Somehow are accused of being the Uncle Toms, but the people who talk exactly like the slave masters are the ones who somehow aren't the Uncle Tom. Your problems, oh, you aren't capable. Your problems aren't-- you're not responsible for your own problems. That is the worst thing that you could tell a five-year-old, a seven-year-old, an eight-year-old. My dad sure as hell didn't tell me that. He told me the ten-foot wall speech, you know, life's unfair, you know.↗

2:09:16Speaker 19injustice and life are synonymous, and just overcome, adapt, you know, improvise, you know, is the Marine thing. And so, you know, it's-- that's really it. It really is inspired by a Jewish supremacy and the political state, and it's victim-bending, right? That's what you would want to think. Can we turn the chessboard around and we say, "How are we gonna dominate people?" Well, this is what has been perpetrated upon Black America is unique in the history of the world, because as my football coach said, Tate never could, in his southern accent, "You're teaching people to believe that they can't. You're teaching people, people, that they have to be the helpless plaything of the political state rather than standing on the horizon of their own destiny and choosing their own way, however modestly, by the way, however modestly, irrespective of your place in society." So generating this, you know, think about the idea that you hate someone who's successful rather than admire them. I mean, that, that is a big parting point of humanity. And who inspires this? The same people People. And of course, it's a terrible thing to do. When, when Jewish supremacists represent you, you're way worse off than if they hate you. All the bad things they say about white people, you know, what they sup- purportedly have done out of fake solicitude for black people has, has actually incredibly destructive. If you believe their lies, it's like taking heroin, it's like taking poison, and sometimes it's actually led to that actual activity.↗

2:10:42Speaker 21What, what, what got me on board was seeing this attack on white people. Like, I wasn't really racially conscious until I noticed how much white people are, are under attack. And then I found out that it's Jewish people behind it who use blacks and non-whites as a weapon against us. And now I think Hitler is a somebody great who stood up against it. And I'm not alone in this.↗

2:11:12Speaker 19Yes, well, has that made you, feel better or worse about Black America?↗

2:11:19Speaker 21it made me feel a lot more, apprehensive about Black-↗

2:11:23Speaker 19Right, well, that's what it's intended to do, right? So you've been watching through the COVID era, a bunch of young blacks, stealing from stores and looting. Why would they let them do that? Right? Do you understand how many black people are sitting at home going, "What the hell, right? Why would they let them do that?" And of course, then,↗

2:11:43Speaker 21'cause every Hollywood movie is teaching you that white people are the devil, the enemy. Okay.↗

2:11:48Speaker 19No, hold on. Don't take it so personally, right? It's, it's the same people that have outgroup psychopathy are doing it to extract your wealth and reduce your servitude. They don't give a damn about any of the other stuff. Their ideology doesn't matter to them. Race doesn't matter to them. What matters? Our group's iconopathy, reducing everybody to servitude and extracting their wealth. So how would you do this if you were infinitesimally small in terms of numbers compared to everyone else? You'd do this. So when you watch the television and you're like, angry and you think maybe some racial slurs, and you're thinking, wait a second now, why is the magic box here, the television doing this to me? Why is this like, why wouldn't they go get those people? Right? Remember during, the Black Lives Matter, which was really just, it was Like it was so easy, if you, again, if you turn the chessboard around and say, "I'm gonna take over this civilization, we're gonna do this, just us in this room, right?"↗

2:12:42Speaker 21Right. So you're saying that the Black Lives Matter thing was a white supremacy thing?↗

2:12:46Speaker 19Well, no, what I'm saying is, it's a Jewish supremacy thing. So I'm saying that you're-- Look, no white community lost their police officers, so all of a sudden the next day, and thousands of black people had to die, so obviously black people don't matter, that,↗

2:13:04Speaker 19alone in a black community and remind you that at least seventy percent of people, even in the inner city, have jobs. You pick up the phone and you call the police and there's no answer, and the criminal that's black rules the day. Who is that helping, right? That is a sacrifice, right? That is putting black people on the altar of sacrifice for Jewish supremacy, right? And so you have, have more antagonism towards blacks, the black community goes down, down, down the tube. Same thing with the- Looting thing. Even Joe Biden said, "You know, the term, his administration said, don't use the term looter, it's racist." Did you hear that? I mean, could you imagine, like, he's literally saying, "You know, black people are looters, so obviously those are synonyms, so we need to stop saying that because it's a racial slur." I mean, like, it's like, these are the people that love you? It's like the worst lawyer possible. The only difference is a con-competent lawyer is trying to do something for you, these↗

2:14:04Speaker 19Destruction that's occurred in the black community, and let's not forget that when they pulled out all those police, guess who's, guess who's propagating the drugs through the black community? Of course, Jewish supremacists, so that allowed them to make more money there. And of course, what are you left to say? Oh gosh, you know, black people, they're, they're awful. You know, we, we hate them, you know, all of this stuff. Well, who's doing this, right? So human solidarity needs to be on a rise. Muslims and, and In order to benefit the same people, blacks and whites need to know they're being played to benefit the same people. And the reason why the racial realism thing is so important is because you can't just say the disparities are nothing and that you don't wanna talk about it, because what the racists do is they make that a cudgel. If there are failings or if there is more poverty in the black community, they say it's white people's fault. So what they're doing is fomenting hatred. So the right response is, wait a second, now there's logical reasons for- These disparities, right? There's logical reasons for it. If we don't have that discussion, we put that cudgel down, and what are they gonna do? Well, what they have been doing, beating us over the head with it.↗

2:15:14Speaker 21Yeah, you're, you're right. Christianity is the worst thing to happen to white people. No, it's not. 'Cause we think that every- We don't↗

2:15:20Speaker 22know.↗

2:15:21Speaker 21We think that everybody is one in Jesus, and it's leading to our own self-destruction.↗

2:15:28@malleusigYeah, but hold on a second, that's, that's, that's a misrepresentation of what, what Christianity is all about. It's like, yeah, that's, that's something that came out afterwards, after the, the campaign to spread it went, went global, but, it's not intrinsic to Christianity, and you certainly can be a Christian without it, and it's beginning to wake up to that also. But I think I liked what Dave was saying because, and this is, I think, the real problem is that you're dealing with a population of people that don't understand That the people that are saying that they are their allies are probably their worst enemies, and the reason they don't know is because they don't understand they're being talked down to. They don't understand they're being treated like children. They don't understand they're being treated like children. And their actual friends are the people that are trying to lift them up into full adulthood, and they've been taught by the people that aren't, you know Infantilizing them, they've been taught that this is the same thing as racism, and that's where being realistic about race becomes extremely important. And↗

2:16:38Ian MalcolmRab- Rabbi, you know who, had your exact point of view, right? That's right. Who did? And Malcolm X basically took that exact, it's, the Malcolm X, yeah, Malcolm X basically that, that whole line about, that, that essentially the, the Democrats, aka also the Jews, aren't your friend, they're gonna sell you out, and they, they pretend that you're, they're your friend while they're basically stabbing the back, stabbing you in the back. They, they, they, how many times↗

2:17:02Speaker 23to other black people, this is the biggest problem we have, Jews will sit back and play as if they are the good whites, we're the good white people,↗

2:17:13Speaker 21The Jews gave us Christianity. Liam, this isn't the topic of the debate. Let's just not- No.↗

2:17:17Speaker 23Yes, I, I hear what you're saying. I, I know the perspective you're coming from, and I understand it, but we're not, we're not talking about that. But I, I feel you though. I hear where you're coming from. And what you're talking about, I understand that, but we're not talking about that currently. So, let's try to stay on topic. I'm actually, I'm actually, I heard your, I heard your feelings.↗

2:17:36@joann_marieBecause that's just not the topic of the meeting. That makes you true. Why, why↗

2:17:40Ian Malcolmare people being so unnecessarily abrasive? It's so bizarre. speaking of not being abrasive, I know Truthseeker had a, a question specifically for Andre, so why don't we go there? Go↗

2:17:51@malleusigfor↗

2:17:51Ian Malcolmit.↗

2:17:54Speaker 24Oh, cool. Oh, thank you, thank you, Andrew, for letting me back on. I know I didn't, get my, my say there, essentially. I don't know what you heard from me, Andre, when you dropped. I was congratulating you and saying some stuff, but it doesn't matter. We're, let's get to the main part of the conversation. I, I heard,↗

2:18:10Speaker 23I heard a lot of it. I, I appreciate you. I'm, I'm glad we came back to you. I, I really do appreciate↗

2:18:23Speaker 24Okay, oh, then that's good, perfect. Alright, yeah, then that, you heard what you needed to. so essentially, well, okay, so we're-- this is a, this is the situation we're in as, as an American, black, black, African American, it doesn't matter at this point. Technically, America was a European, country essentially, right? I mean, that's-- they came over here, they colonized it, they, they did whatever with the Indians,↗

2:18:48Speaker 24and- It was a European country until blacks and, you know, there was-- we weren't the only slaves ever brought over, but we were like, we are the considered the main majority slaves, race-wise, right, in America. And so, once, you know, once slavery was abolished after the Civil War, not saying that the Civil War was fault over, slavery wasn't, it was fault over money. but I hate, I hate that, I hate that trap that they, put to-- they tell everybody, right? That's what we learn↗

2:19:19Speaker 24Essentially, America was basically left with a, African black population essentially that was unfocused, has, had no nationality, has no leader, and even when they try to get leaders, they're either all, created by someone else, someone say the Jews, right? Or they were killed. so essentially Where we at today is essentially all, all black people don't have a nation, they don't have a home. They're worse than Jews because, Jews are nomads, right, too, but at least they have a place they can call to and they're tribal, like literally. While us, we're the opposite, even though we are sort of nomadish, we don't really have a place to call home. We, we can say Africa is, but most of us can't trace back, anything to anything there anyway.↗

2:20:08Speaker 24But essentially, we basically walk over each other, we kill each other, we, we don't even integrate with most of the, like, you, me, for instance, we are like the small minority of blacks that have came out of the welfare state or out of this whole movement to educate the black community, right? But if you think about it, if you think, time-wise and statistically It would take another five hundred years before we get to a state where it's more, enough of us to replace the majority, niggers or, you know, the ghettos. Like, I, I, I w- I lived in Memphis, you know, I know how that was. So, I, I know all about their life essentially, and I had to move out because it just, you don't, you can't progress there. There's no, there's, it'll-- I would have, I would love a community of light blacks that are like, And so at the moment, we're in a situation where I had this, when I talked with Ian, last time, I said, "I actually feel that in the future, if we get to the point where it's, we-- there's a conflict." There's gonna be a purge, either on the black side or the white side, but it's not gonna be pretty, and it's the only way this might end. Now, I've heard other, solutions like segregation that could work, or,↗

2:21:24Speaker 24moving all the bad, all the criminals, right, essentially, to another place, maybe Africa, right? I mean, that's technically what we've done in the past with moving criminals in general, just moving to other countries, and keep them out of here. But We are stuck right now of like figuring out how to go about this. Some people are coming up with moral ways, and some people are coming up with like more drastic ways, you know, killing 'em, right? Or,↗

2:21:48Speaker 24like China does with, their blacks over there, actually, unfortunately. So, I would love to hear your thoughts on where you figure we're gonna be heading in the next twenty-five, thirty years, and is the black community just basically stuck? Like they're stuck, right? They're just-- We, we, we-- Do we have to stick Or something has to give. And I agree that the welfare state should be abolished. That's the first step we need to do.↗

2:22:16Speaker 23Well, nothing is guaranteed but about work and struggle. I don't wanna sit back and, and have this belief like, there's no hope. I'm the only intelligent black. It's over. Like, I don't think that's a very positive, outlook. And I don't think that's-- I like to be very optimistic. I think things can change. Now, the question on, to what level and to what degree based on what goes on in the world and how we operate, well, that's really not in, in my power to decide. I can sit back and ponder upon what, what happened, but, you know,↗

2:22:51Speaker 23To really look at it, I'm hoping that America goes in this direction. I think that the most peaceful way that we could go about this, because eventually things are gonna get worse in this country, things are gonna get worse in order for them to get better. That's how it's always operated throughout history. Things have got gradually more and more worse, and then we have a clash. And that clash creates something new. it could be terrible for a few years, it could be beneficial for a few years and then crash. I mean, it's, it's a constant back and forth we've seen all throughout history, throughout every people, every nation on every continent all over the entire world.↗

2:23:26Speaker 23the best way we can go about this in the United States is segregation first but it's not this aggressive. You can't sit on the bus with white people, you can't go drink water and vitamins from, from black people. I think it's gonna get on that level. More, I can live in this area, and this area is predominantly black or predominantly white, or we just have to acknowledge the Hispanic population that's boomed over the last four years. this is the Hispanic area, they wanna be over here as well. I can see it going that way, but you still have integrated areas in the country where people who want to associate with everyone, they can associate with everyone, but they're not barred from doing so. I think that's something we can see in the future, but there's a lot that has to change in terms of voting, in terms of government, in terms of culturally how we look at things, and we have to do everything we can to avoid conflict, which I would like to see this direction. I think it can happen, but given human nature, conflict will arise either one way or another, or another.↗

2:24:23Speaker 23the worst case scenario is you've balkanized completely, that, you know, the, the entire country's breaking up, broken up into various different, Small nations, small ethnic enclaves, and that's how you have America for the next five hundred years or so. I think, given our nature and our, just spirit of us as Americans, we would probably want to unite the, you know, the, the, the entire continent once more. I think that was something-- Anytime we would break up, I think we would fall in the same place China's, has f-found themselves throughout the, with five thousand years they've existed. they'll break up and then come right back together, then break up again↗

2:25:01Speaker 23But the question is, who's here? And I think that Black Americans will be here for the foreseeable future. But if we don't get our act together, we're gonna be the ones killing ourselves. And then anyone else who wants to finish off the job, we'll just be like, you know, like the, the Native Americans, we'll go to fucking reservation. You have two liquor stores and a weed shop, and everyone drives Escalades, and we're, high tops and shit, I don't know, some fucking gay ass sneakers. I think that sounds like a, a nightmare. I'm hoping we don't have that. I don't like Escalades, I like Fords and BMWs, okay?↗

2:25:33Speaker 23I don't think we'll get to that point, but, you know, we'll see. We'll see. I think it's important for us today. Especially if you're black and you're in your twenties or thirties, more importantly, if you're an American, period, all of us Americans, who are at this age and a part of Gen Z, it's imperative that we push in a different direction when it comes to everything across our country, the political system, economically, culturally, socially, and we look at racially our own problems that we have, in our individual groups, we have to focus on it. But black people, we've got a lot of work to do. And this holding a nigga hand and oh, nigga you, oh, you, you graduated high school, oh congratulations, nigga.↗

2:26:15Speaker 23We gotta stop trying to kiss our ass and have people kiss, you know, walk and sweep behind us. We gotta do some sweeping ourselves and really build ourselves better than where we are currently. And it's gonna be a lot of work, man. It's very depressing to think about it, but go ahead. May, may I, may I↗

2:26:30Speaker 25add something to that? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it's good. I wanna say this. Okay, I am↗

2:26:40Speaker 25a, a, a very-- I, I come from German heritage, and I come from enough German heritage that, that my grandfather wasn't trusted to fight against You know, the Germans in World War II, so he was sent to the Pacific because they didn't trust him to not be loyal to the US in World War II. So he was in Japan, he was in-- Oh, wow. He was in the Pacific And,↗

2:27:29Speaker 25he was a man that raised and lowered the American flag on his flagpole every day. He was a member of the VFW, he was a member of the Knights of Columbus in his community, and, He was, like, h-he's actually someone that, that I respected. Now, he died at the age of 95, and,↗

2:28:16@joann_marieIs this relevant to, to the topic today?↗

2:28:20Speaker 25I, I think it's very relevant. I think it's very relevant to the topic today. Like, like, like what, what, what I'm saying is, what the fuck are we talking today? I, I, I am stuck with this. What I'm, what I'm, no, no, no, I'm gonna↗

2:28:38Ian Malcolmmute you for a second. Like, I tried, I tried. If I am unfamiliar with your handle and you come up and you jump into the conversation, in this case, you jumped ahead of Truth Seeker, who was extremely polite, respectful, asked a really thoughtful question, we went to him to get a, an opinion, and instead you said, "Can↗

2:28:58Ian Malcolm'Cause I don't like to cut people off, JFK, but then we're going to move on, and that is how we are going to treat anybody that interrupts going forward. You will get thirty seconds if you wanna interrupt somebody, but that's going to be it, because we've had way too many distractions and detractors on this panel.↗

2:29:12Speaker 26And I'm gonna say this, man, I love your panel. I↗

2:29:20@joann_marieam fucking glad↗

2:29:22Ian Malcolmyou're quiet so hard. It's crazy. But this is great. Today, today is way more insane than normal, Andre. Like the funny part, Andre, is everybody We're all in a nice restaurant, we're sitting down, people are coming up to ask you questions politely, and then we have just children running around in the restaurant, and they've got like plastic lightsabers, and they're whacking the adults, and they're like, "I got a point, trust me." And then the weirdest part is, we remove the microphone, and then they go down in the comments section, they're like, "You're afraid of my logic, it's so bizarre."↗

2:29:53Speaker 19Which↗

2:29:54@joann_marieis technically↗

2:29:54Speaker 19true.↗

2:29:55@joann_marieI'm crying.↗

2:29:57Ian MalcolmAlright, so JFK, JFK, right? You know, I will say↗

2:29:59Speaker 19though, I will say though, Hitchhup does spaces on Tuesday and Saturday, and sometimes they're about how to speak in spaces. So I recommend people go to those. I would say my advice for everyone else coming up, think about the thing you wanna say as a sentence on a whiteboard. Just have it in line, have it ready to go, and make sure that it is in line with the topic. So, in, like in real life, try to make your conversation integral With the thing you just heard.↗

2:30:31Speaker 19I, I, I actually- Okay,↗

2:30:33@joann_mariego. Jayeffke, try to make it super relevant to the top, to the topic, okay? Go for it.↗

2:30:39Speaker 25I actually, I, I, I have thought about it for about five minutes. Okay. And what's the and, and what's the↗

2:30:49Speaker 19antecedent to the word "it"?↗

2:30:54Speaker 25The fact, the fact of the matter is- It's that the fact of the matter is, is that the fact that US blood has been shed for a foreign country For the last 80 years.↗

2:31:14Speaker 19Okay, well, thank you, my friend.↗

2:31:16@joann_marieHe's trying, guys, he's trying.↗

2:31:17Speaker 19I, I, I believe you. Hang on, you're right about that. And you're right about that. Hang on,↗

2:31:20Ian Malcolmhe's, he's got seven seconds left. I'm gonna reset the timer. Oh, sorry. Go for it, Jake.↗

2:31:24Speaker 25Well, okay, thank you. A-and now I've got three seconds left. Well, you're-↗

2:31:31@joann_marieWell, you did amazing. Thank you so much for coming up.↗

2:31:34Speaker 27Right. The topic it says Race Reelsen. Was that U E N? Did you attend the- Oh, you attend the Learning Center? Is that where you learn? Oh, this↗

2:31:45Ian Malcolmwill be great, this will be great, Carla. So, so let's have a, let's have a conversation on a typo in the panel, when we had to reset the room because, X wanted to have some fun with us.↗

2:31:56Speaker 27It looked, it looked like a Leary Center graduate. Okay.↗

2:31:59Ian MalcolmSo, so we've got the Derek Zoolander School for kids that wanna learn to read good and do other things good. So Carla, here is the question. What is-- Let's come up with a, a really good one. what is thirty-six divided by three? Carla.↗

2:32:19Speaker 27I'm, I'm black, I have a low IQ, so I wouldn't know the answer to that.↗

2:32:23Speaker 20That's still not easy enough. You got that one still, Carla. Clips. Clips.↗

2:32:26Ian MalcolmI'm fucking embarrassed, clips. Carla, do you wanna have any more contributions?↗

2:32:41Ian Malcolmnot at this time. Thank you. Alright. So, so,↗

2:32:47Speaker 27I wanted to say something, when you guys were talking about, black versus African and who can say the↗

2:32:55@joann_mariesame thing.↗

2:32:57Speaker 27Oh my God,↗

2:33:00Ian MalcolmKaren, let's try to, I↗

2:33:06Speaker 27know, but that's, but that's Carly, Black is both an ethnicity and a racial designation, and I'll, I'll tell you why. If you've ever in text, in written literature, seen the B in black capitalized, and you've seen it small, that's the differentiator, because all proper nouns are capitalized, like German, Irish, Italian, those are proper nouns and, before they're capitalized. If I can, you're cutting in.↗

2:33:40Ian MalcolmCarla, why do you think the media So regularly and routinely capitalizes the B in black, but not the W in white in the same article.↗

2:33:50Speaker 27Talk about forty-nine seconds. You couldn't even give me that. You, you, and you talk about ambiguous capitalization.↗

2:33:58Speaker 20No, but it's not. Yes, yes, you can't. I'm sure you did. I think that was pretty close, at least if it↗

2:34:04@joann_mariewasn't↗

2:34:05Speaker 27a full. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You know, that's weird. I couldn't even finish. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I couldn't even get halfway. I'm breaking up these,↗

2:34:16Speaker 20these. All↗

2:34:18Speaker 27right, go ahead. All right. So if, if, if you see, if you see that, that, that is the reason why, because before the term African American became, standard on government forms and stuff like that where you see it today, it was just black. It was just Black American. A-and so that's what, some foreign black immigrants mean when they say, "I'm not black." They're-- it doesn't mean that they're not black racially. They're saying that they're not Black American in the ethnic sense. I, I think we've already-- and we've already explained this. And, and I'm, I'm still getting, still getting cut off.↗

2:35:06Ian Malcolmyeah, you most definitely are gonna get cut off. So, so,↗

2:35:26Ian MalcolmConversation, you're welcome to do so. If you continue just being abrasive and obnoxious merely to try and be abrasive and obnoxious and inflammatory, I'm just going to remove you. This is a reasonable conversation with reasonable people, so please just make your point and we'll go from there.↗

2:35:43Speaker 27I don't know what you- The guy just cut me off. But is that all? Yeah, so I didn't know what he meant. I don't know what he meant by "bursts," if I was trying to explain the definition.↗

2:35:53Speaker 26In, in water. Can people stop teaching their grandmothers to use fucking Twitter? Like, oh my goodness. Can, can I don't even wanna deal with you fucking black gen Xers and black boomers in public. Can people stop↗

2:36:06Speaker 27teaching the, the gay dudes, the, the bussy masters? To, to coming on here. What? Yeah.↗

2:36:21Speaker 26Like↗

2:36:26Speaker 27your pussy's tight. Wait, wait,↗

2:36:40Speaker 27I'm, I'm not any, I'm not Gen X, but whatever. Oh, you're a boomer,↗

2:36:44Speaker 20alright. I'm a↗

2:36:44Speaker 27boomer. That's, that's the↗

2:36:45Speaker 20greatest generation. Oh, that's fine, please. No,↗

2:36:47Speaker 27no, no, I'm the silent generation. That's,↗

2:36:49Speaker 26I'm,↗

2:36:50Speaker 20I'm↗

2:36:55Speaker 27in my↗

2:36:56Speaker 26nineties. You're definitely not silent. Oh, oh. You are not in your motherfucking↗

2:37:02Speaker 27nineties. Why again? I, I, like, I, I don't, I don't want to see a wrinkle right now, bitch. You bite the pillow, sir, that's what it means. I bite the pillow. You,↗

2:37:13Speaker 20you are-- Do you have a degree, Carla?↗

2:37:17Speaker 27Of, of course I do. I didn't go to the-- Did you go to school? I, I didn't go to the learning center.↗

2:37:21Speaker 20What'd you go to school for, if you don't mind me asking?↗

2:37:23Speaker 27Spelling. Spelling? Yes. It definitely wasn't math. I got the grandpa. I know how to spell realism. Is that the word? Oh, look at that, somebody fixed it.↗

2:37:34Ian MalcolmOkay. Hey Carla, let's see, where do we even wanna go? We did mathematics, that didn't work out so well. Carla, can you tell me how many oceans are on the planet?↗

2:37:47Speaker 27I↗

2:37:47Ian Malcolmcan't. Okay, Carla, but, Carla, Carla, can you tell me how many continents there are? I'm↗

2:37:51Speaker 23very, this is very disappointing. There are four↗

2:37:56Ian MalcolmHow many continents are there?↗

2:37:58Speaker 27Yeah, I can't, I don't know. Okay, maybe Carla can. Here's the big state in the United States. I don't↗

2:38:03Ian Malcolmknow, again. Okay, Carla, can you tell me how many genders there are?↗

2:38:10Speaker 27Don't know.↗

2:38:11Ian MalcolmWhat? Well, in modernity, I suppose that might be a reasonable answer. Carla, can you tell me the price of a Big Mac at McDonald's?↗

2:38:21Speaker 27I don't eat at McDonald's. I don't eat at McDonald's. Carla, Carla, can you help↗

2:38:27Ian Malcolmme out here?↗

2:38:32Ian MalcolmOh, you mean purple drink? That's it. That is a↗

2:38:35Speaker 26horrible thing.↗

2:38:37Ian MalcolmCarla, thank you for participating in our, our, our, our, what would you, you call it, the, the speed round here of Jeopardy. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul, to quote, a Billy Madison movie. let's go to, let's go to Black American Homeland.↗

2:39:00@joann_marieBlack American?↗

2:39:04Speaker 28thank you, thank you, Ian and, Joanne and Andre. Look, my question for Andre. Andre, I, I wrote a book. I published a book in, in 2012 called Black Paper: Black American Homeland. And I advocate for Black Americans' right to establish their own political party and obtain supermajority and political control over the eight states Southern region, which is North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Now, I heard you mentioned some things about, you know, that you believe that Black Americans should take over the South, and you mentioned, you know, you just mentioned a lot of things that I already written in my book twelve years ago, right? And my question for you is If you were a governor of a, of a supermajority black state, right, in the South, I think you said you were from Michigan, but let's say you live in the South, you are, you're in North Carolina or Georgia or South Carolina, what would be your, your laws and regulations would you, introduce within, that state?↗

2:40:29Speaker 23One thing I'm most certainly gonna do is, enact a death penalty for murderers, rapists, child sex predators, all the hard, egregious killers, we're gonna, we're gonna get them the fuck out of here. So that's, that's gonna kill a lot right there. when it comes to the workforce, when it comes to prison in terms of this, in terms of crime, it's unfortunate you gotta think about that first, but the crime is so, so problematic.↗

2:40:57Speaker 23You're not just gonna get out just simply because you just sit on your ass for whatever your term is and do nothing. mandatory labor. Build some shit, make some license plates, nigga. That's what you can do. Make me some Nikes. you like to run in them, nigga, from cops? You can make them, for me and the cops. That's how I think it should go. so that'll be very-- That's one of the things I would do, education across the board. I want to really break up education to three different, three different schools, general, technical, and refined. If general education for most children, I think that's what I would say eighth grade, seventh, eighth grade, once you get to high school, you're gonna pick two lanes, either a technical school where you're gonna learn something,↗

2:41:38Speaker 23that will help you get into a, a trade, refined, medicine, law, military, that's where you'll go. and allowing the children to, you know, what they test for and what they're more, To these schools, that's what you'll focus on. I think that's the way I would do it. But you gotta really se- also you have to really separate the,↗

2:41:58Speaker 23the bad chil- children, penalize the parents, put fines on, on parents that don't take care of the kids, and the kids get caught after dark, really start enforcing the, the curfews, fine the hell out of the parents. All right, the one thing, a parent, I don't know, I don't have any kids, but I, Right, I think that's something if you got kids, you would hate to get a bill from your kid on some shit they done, or something you have to pay for. So I think we all remember that if you broke someone's window in the neighborhood, you would hate that the kid broke the window 'cause now you gotta pay for it. So,↗

2:42:34Speaker 23really find the hell out of these parents when it comes to promotion of the arts, like we really have to bring back some laws, some decency laws, like public decency laws that comes to, film, media. I don't wanna see a bunch of black-- Listen, I, I like titties, I like women, but I don't wanna see this shit everywhere, all the time. I like some stuff in the bedroom too, but I don't need to hear this shit when I'm walking to the library, alright? I don't need to see you twerking, at the library or at the YMCA. I'm tired of seeing that, so bring back some decency laws. But that, that's as far as I will go. in terms of breaking away from the union, if it's-- if people want that and we're at that point and we can form something, then we can form something. But You have to also take into question, can it be maintained militarily? Can it be maintained logistically, economically? That's something we have to call into question, and there's a lot of things we really have to root out of our community and our culture if we want anything to be maintained successfully, and that may mean that we will be a lot smaller than what you're proposing. I'm not familiar with your book. If you've got a, you know, a link to it, I'll, I'll most certainly purchase your book and, and, and read it and keep it on my shelf. I would love to have a, a, some great work from somebody like yourself on my shelf and, and to read and be able to use, to expand upon the ideas you've got and promote them. so if you got anything, please DM me.↗

2:43:59Speaker 28yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. look Look, this guy, look, Andre, you're a young guy, you're 25, I'm almost 60 years old, I'll be 60 in 20 days, right? And the information that you- Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. And the, the, the information you gave me does show that you do have some maturity. I wish you wouldn't use the, the N word or- You know, all those other things, but, you know, this is, you know, one thing I love, love about the United States of America is that you have the, you, you have constitutional right to say, do anything, you know, you wanna do within the, within the law, right? But the thing is, the problem is that we might have too much↗

2:44:53Speaker 28our freedom in the United States. And that's an odd thing for a black person to say. Well, the thing is, look, I, I traveled to 33 countries, right? And I noticed that a lot of countries, they do kind of, what's that word? they restrict their people. you have the 10% of these, of the population that- That control their, or run their country, they control the ninety percent, the lower ninety percent. So the lower ninety percent doesn't- Sounds kinda↗

2:45:29Speaker 19like a plantation, is that what you're kinda hoping for?↗

2:45:31Speaker 28No, it's not a plantation, sir. It's like this. It's, it's the same in America. It's the same in America where you got the ten percent of the population, they think they control- You said we have too much freedom↗

2:45:42Speaker 19in America, and then you're, you're contrasting that with Europe. So, in what way do I have the right to... No, no, this what I'm saying.↗

2:45:48Speaker 28This what I'm saying, right? We have the right to do anything, but the thing is, the people don't have the right to do anything.↗

2:45:55Speaker 19That's not true.↗

2:45:57Speaker 28Well, look, I say within the law, within the law. Okay. However, you got the ten percent that control all the-- Just out of curiosity,↗

2:46:08Speaker 19what do you think a right is? A right? What is a right? Yeah, you're repeating it back to me, that's not helping.↗

2:46:19Speaker 28Well, a right is, a right is, is, something that is, is granted to you. Well, you got different types of right. You got natural rights. Okay, what are those? You got, what are natural rights? Oh, I mean, look, look, I actually wrote those down in my book, but I can't, I can't go through them right now.↗

2:46:43Speaker 19Okay, so you can't think of what they are just off the top of your head? W-well,↗

2:46:48Speaker 28the thing is, sir, I'm trying to stay focused on things what I'm trying to convey to Andre, right? Now you asking me questions and, look, look, I-I'm in Southeast Asia, right? I waited for, two hours to get on this show, right? And, And I'm just right now, I'm just not in the, I just don't wanna, answer any questions at the moment. I just wanna get, look, this is for Andre, right? Look, I have a better, I have a better, what's that word,↗

2:47:29Speaker 28you know, I heard your, your information before, I didn't like it, but I can see that y-you do have more and that, and, if, you know, I will send you my book or I'll send you a, a flip copy of my book, and, with you being so young, you know, I would love for you to read my, information and, and we can go on fr-from there.↗

2:47:58Speaker 23Yeah, dude, just, reach out to me. excuse me, happy birthday, that's one thing.↗

2:48:03Speaker 29thank you. Thank you.↗

2:48:04Speaker 23Happy birthday. but yeah, send me a copy of your, of your work. if it's up for free, just, you know, DM me. If, you know, I gotta pay for it, I'll pay for it, most definitely. support you and just read your work, man. I'm, I'm, I'm a very nice guy at the end of the day, you know? I I do appreciate you coming up and asking the question, and hopefully I've been insightful,↗

2:48:29Speaker 23in answering the thing.↗

2:48:31Speaker 28Right. Hey, I appreciate it, thank you.↗

2:48:33Ian MalcolmYeah, and, and, and thank you, and I apologize for the, for the delay for, for some people, in, in terms of getting them up through the order. We got a, a lot of requests, but I, I do sincerely appreciate everybody, and, and again, apologies for the delay. Lots of interest for the, the insights of Mr. Andre, which, certainly↗

2:48:53Ian MalcolmI had some issues before with the mic, so let's go there, and then we will go to Mr. Let Me Be Frank, and then check in with the Yankee. Very, very humbled to have him in the room with us as well.↗

2:49:04Speaker 23I, I just gotta say, I love the way↗

2:49:06Ian MalcolmDavid works. I mean, oh, David, David is a surgeon. It is unbelievable.↗

2:49:12Speaker 23Yes. It is fantastic to watch him just break everything. Oh, it's, it's terrifying.↗

2:49:18@joann_marieIt's like, damn, he cut him down! He's one of my favorite people ever, I love him.↗

2:49:24Speaker 23It's like watching Dexter in real life, like really cutting down. David.↗

2:49:31Ian MalcolmI, I do think with David's intellect, I'd be very concerned if he wanted to actually do something bad to me and then dispose of my body. I think he'd be able to get away with it, to be honest. No, of course, I'm not saying, I'm saying,↗

2:49:42Speaker 26in terms of- No,↗

2:49:43Speaker 19no, that was a, that was a great compliment, actually. I still think it's funny though. I can just see the knives So↗

2:49:51Speaker 23yeah, I, I actually love that show, Dexter. I've, I finished the last season. I have a Dexter joke↗

2:49:55Speaker 19that I use too, too often with my wife. By the way, Joanne knows this. She's making cheesecake brownies right now, so I'm, I'm, I'm playing it cool, I'm pretending that I'm not really excited about this. But the joke I make is, when someone's boring the crap out of me, I say, "You know, if I was Dexter, I'd have them like wrapped in cellophane, and then↗

2:50:21Speaker 19All right, you've been torturing me with whatever you're saying, and now it's gonna be all over for you. That's↗

2:50:30Speaker 23an interesting one, I like that one. I, I finished the entire series, I watched the blood, and resurrection is so far pretty good. Did you,↗

2:50:37Speaker 19did you, did you find yourself near the end of the series wanting to just get to the kill? You're like, all right, let's stop all this, you know, all right, this guy's annoying, can we get to the, like, the table and the explanation?↗

2:50:50Speaker 23Yeah, I, I didn't like the fact that they, they changed up, of course, it ended off with him being in Oregon, and they changed it to New York. I don't really know how they never explained that jump in new blood, and now in resurrection, but, and it is what it is. I, I think it's been pretty good. I enjoyed the series. mu-- shows like Dexter and movies like Saw are my favorite. I like that perspective of, I'm doing this not because I'm an evil person, but it's more of↗

2:51:23Speaker 30Okay, is it yes,↗

2:51:25@joann_mariewelcome back, Donna.↗

2:51:27Speaker 30Okay, thank you. when I broke through, I wasn't trying to be rude, but that gentleman, didn't consider himself a Black American. He kept referencing that he was from West Indies, and I noticed the trend that, And I've seen it more than just hearing that man, that some black immigrants come into this country and they look down their nose at black Americans.↗

2:51:59Speaker 30They,↗

2:52:02Speaker 30they see them as lazy and entitled, okay? they hold themselves above them. And then we have, black neighborhoods seem to always be the ones that are flooded With immigrants. So their schools suffer. These are things that need to change, okay? because there's no way, I mean, to turn things around if they can't get educated in the school, and if their neighborhoods are constantly disrupted, whether by drugs or immigrants. When I grew up, my city Had neighborhoods, and every neighborhood was ethnic, whether it be Italian, Black, German, Polish, whatever it was, and we had festivals, and we would go to each other's festivals. I mean, you go to the Black community, and they had like, and I'm not trying to be stereotypical here, but they had ribs and greens and stuff that I don't normally get to enjoy.↗

2:53:11Speaker 30Just like when you go to the Greek, you get baklava, or if you go to, do you know what I'm saying? So everybody, kind of, you were raised in your culture, your, your ethnic, comfort zone. You went to grade school in that comfort zone, and then you met other ethnicities when you hit high school. So when they started this forced busing thing,↗

2:53:42Speaker 30it, it caused a lot of problems because I don't know that anybody was really happy about it. I think what they should have done was made the teachers rotate through the schools, and then you could say, "Well, you know, everybody has equal access to quality teachers." And, you know, we wouldn't say, "Okay, we'll put the bad teachers into this neighborhood, "because we don't care if they do well or not. Do you know what I mean? So,↗

2:54:15Speaker 30but I really do think that, like, the neighborhood polices itself. I mean, if I did something wrong as a child, I heard it all the way home. The neighbors were like jumping on me, and then I got home, and then I got it from my parents. And I think that that is just what communities do for each other. And I think the Black community can do that for themselves too, but they've just been,↗

2:54:47Speaker 30they've, they've been just, abused. I mean, I've seen white neighborhoods get flooded with drugs too, don't get me wrong, but- This, this, these Democrats that run most of the highly populated, cities that have black people in it, they abuse them. I mean, they, they literally, the majority of them are sanctuaries, and then they go and they↗

2:55:18Speaker 30give all the benefits to the immigrants. I mean, we saw the people in Chicago. They went before their city councils, and they were like, "We can't live like this. " their police were overtaxed, they had to like take in the immigrants, they lived in the police station, so that if you're in the neighborhood and something's going on, you weren't gonna get help.↗

2:55:47Speaker 30And the, and the schools are, the children are being robbed of an education because- All the children that come in that don't speak English get the attention, and the people from the neighborhood are ignored. And you can put your thumb down all you want, too, HT. I'm just saying facts that I have seen. Is that the handsome truce↗

2:56:07Speaker 26of so? Holy shit, what's up, HT? Holy shit.↗

2:56:11Speaker 29Yeah, it's me. And what's up? What's up? Well, you know, I don't know, I don't wanna like chime in too early, but, you know, I've seen some clips here. I saw one with some white kids Like, what the fuck is going on? This is weird. This is crazy.↗

2:56:26Speaker 23That, that was, that was wild to have that. Randomly, I get on a monkey, and there's fucking a group of white↗

2:56:35Speaker 26kids popping romans with me.↗

2:56:37Speaker 29Listen, I don't know- I'm voting you to be the president of Africa. because I actually think you got a good message about blacks getting their shit together. yeah, I think that, you call out the black problem pretty well. Do you date within your own race?↗

2:56:55Speaker 23Yes, no race mixing, no, fuck no, no mucharks. you know what the funniest shit? The video of you going up to the, the white woman. And I know a lot of people gave you shit for it, you know, it, it, I think it's funny. You know, of course the child is probably gonna have a bad experience. but, I mean, the mom calls that. That is the funniest shit in the world. My shark, that shit is absolutely fucking hilarious. 'Cause I'm, I'm very harsh on the white woman that fuck black dudes, 'cause it's like, dude, you're, you're-- one, you know exactly what you're gonna do to this girl, and then two, come on, Susie, you're doing this 'cause you wanna piss off daddy. Like really, this is what you're gonna do?↗

2:57:29Speaker 29Yeah, I had a friend who, that, before I got Rachel, I had a friend who was half black, half Italian. His mom was like Miss World, she was a black lady, and, he said it was fucked up, like his entire life, he didn't know, he couldn't get accepted on either side with whites or, or blacks, and he was- I guess what you call whitewash is very like artistic, like, you know, in the cinematography and shit like that, but, yeah, he said it was like, pretty much like child abuse, it was, you know, kind of screwed up. I, I guess where I'm going is like, real quick, just to get like right to the point of things. I think there has got to be a separation between blacks and whites in this country, and it would do everyone a favor. I'm wondering where you're at with that, like as far as like the Jews, they obviously wanted to force us, to be together.↗

2:58:20Speaker 29It just doesn't work out, nature just doesn't work out that way. Like it's just not, it's harmful for everyone. I think some of the greatest black nationalists like, Marcus Garvey, he had a plan to get blacks back to Africa, Malcolm X wanted separation, and they, they were obviously due aware of what's going on, you know? So I'm wondering, where, where do you stand with that? Do you think it would be healthier for blacks and whites to just separate and not-↗

2:58:48Speaker 23I think, I think that it, it can most definitely be positive. it's just the way we want to go about it, you know? I, I think if we really push freedom of association, like, hey, if you wanna have all white towns and say, like, hey, only white people can live here, and we still maintain the union, then fine. but anything is possible. If things get to a point where it's like really bloody, a bloody conflict comes to, you know- Comes to pass and, you know, whites and blacks are fighting each other. I mean, that's beyond you and I, you know, it's kind of like, okay, this was always gonna happen, and it was inevitable, and it does. but I would like, I'd like to be optimistic and hope for things to go in a better direction where it's like, hey, you know, we can live here and do this. but if it just isn't ever gonna happen, then so be it. You know, I'm not↗

2:59:35Speaker 23gonna complain out of the way. I Or some stupid shit, right? We're not in India, okay? We're not over there. but if things get really bad and we lose what we have, then, fuck. I mean, it's depressing, but I mean, that's what we are.↗

2:59:52Speaker 29Have you reached out to Ayo Kamathi? 'Cause I think you're the, you two are like the only blacks I've actually heard that are actually on the scene.↗

2:59:58Speaker 23You're, you're not the first person to mention him, and I've watched him over the years. I would like to have a conversation with↗

3:00:11Speaker 29I got his contact if you need it. I mean, if you, do you need his contact? Yeah, I would love it,↗

3:00:16Speaker 23yeah. Send it all the way.↗

3:00:17Speaker 29Okay, let me see, are you on Telegram? I am on↗

3:00:21Speaker 23Telegram, yes I am.↗

3:00:22Speaker 29Okay, I'll, she, I'll follow you and then I'll shoot you his Telegram. Get it going.↗

3:00:27Speaker 23Okay, I appreciate you. I appreciate, yeah. I think my Telegram is in my, my Linktree. No, actually, yeah, I'll just, I'll DM it to you if you don't mind. Yeah, that's fine.↗

3:00:37Speaker 29real quick, I just wanna know, just as far as your, how old are you?↗

3:00:42Speaker 2625.↗

3:00:42Speaker 29And how did you get, when did you start getting racially aware of like this behavior that you can't stand amongst, I guess, you see, you call it your own people and, on their behavior, when did it, when did you, when did it become like, oh, this is like, 'cause I'm doing the same thing↗

3:01:02Speaker 29How we've let this country go, you know, I feel like it's unfortunate, but all the other non-white people don't have an issue with being tribal, but white people, w-our morality is turned into like cancer to where it's like, you know, it's, it's just creating more and more morality to where it's making us sick, and we wanna like take care of everyone, and if we wanna take care of ourselves, it looks like we're racist. So, when did you get this awareness? As a black person, understand that your race has some issues to fix.↗

3:01:33Speaker 23Oh, this was, this teaching throughout the household, man. My grandfather, my mother, my father was murdered before I was born, so engaged to my mother and everything, great man. so that, that was something that was taught in the household, man. This wasn't something I just found out, like, like the rest of these black conservatives, black Republicans, oh, you know, I woke up last year. And they gradually moved over, no, this is from- Childhood, and I would go to school and get kicked out of school. I got kicked out of private school here in Detroit, very nice black private school here in Detroit, Jesuit Catholic Elementary, because I was very open about how Trayvon Martin really wasn't the angel they were trying to make it to be, and they were trying to push an election. That's all it was, to use Trayvon Martin's death as a means to win elections, and they have ever since. The same template, it comes back, it goes back to the, you know, Jewish orchestrated civil rights movement and↗

3:02:22Speaker 23So this was just a standard teaching for me. This wasn't, I came to this conclusion, just randomly. This was something that was taught, and I would see it. We owned our own home. Grandfather served this country, you know, went to medical school, had a PhD. my mother worked very hard, real estate, trying to make her money, also taking care of me. We lived right next door to each other, so granddad was, you know, I saw him every day. I woke up↗

3:02:48Speaker 23and I'd look outside and see niggas on the corner doing shit that just didn't make sense. I would have friends come over, "You guys don't rent anything? How do you not rent anything? " "No, we own it. " "What does own? " I would never forget that shit from people who are my age now walking around never owned anything. It's unbelievable. So this is just a standard teaching, that's it.↗

3:03:07Speaker 29Well, I can't. Usually I'm, I'm very vile towards black people, very vile, but I can't counter someone anyone That's telling their own people to stay with their own people and not promote this degenerate race mixing Jewish shit. So, I'll give you kudos for that.↗

3:03:25Speaker 23I appreciate↗

3:03:26Speaker 29you, dude. I've, I've watched your stuff over the years, it was like,↗

3:03:28Speaker 26holy shit, handsome truth. That's↗

3:03:30Speaker 29crazy. Thank you. Yeah, keep, you know, keep us separated. That's, that's the best way to do it. And thanks for having me come up. I don't wanna like spoil the space, but↗

3:03:40Ian Malcolmno, HT, feel free to stick around. And, and it's so funny because, in the, in the purple pill, you'll see all kinds of comments about how this is a very bigoted, racist space and all↗

3:03:55Ian Malcolmin his positions on, on kind of race realism and, Andre and the, the two of them leaving as besties, and so isn't it a strange world that we find ourselves in? I wouldn't say besties, I would say, you know, yeah, yeah.↗

3:04:10Speaker 26There's,↗

3:04:10Speaker 29there's, he wants to preserve his race, I wanna preserve mine, and what goes against that is race mixing. It's the ultimate Jewish-↗

3:04:18Ian MalcolmHey, you can have Rockwell and, and Malcolm X, right? and therefore we can have HT and Andre, and look, it's advancing causes, you know? Yeah.↗

3:04:29Speaker 29Well, you guys have a great night. Thanks for having me up. Bye, pal.↗

3:04:35Ian MalcolmAnd, th-that, Isn't that interesting? That's↗

3:04:42Speaker 26actually pretty fucking, fucking,↗

3:04:44Speaker 23to, to have Handsome Truth come up. I, I don't have a problem with Handsome Truth. I think his content's funny. what he does is what he does. it is what it is. I don't take offense to it. You know, people who take offense to it, I think the shit's↗

3:04:58Speaker 26funny to come up with the monkey shit. That shit is honestly funny, you know? I just, I have this kind of humor. I, I↗

3:05:05Speaker 23like this stuff. It is what it, it's funny to me. now people argue like, "Oh, it's in bad taste," or however they feel about it, emotionally, morally. I mean, that's up to you, but I can laugh every now and again and find the shit funny. Gypsy Crusader, that nigga's funny. He's hilarious. I-- it's no different than Paul Mooney when he makes jokes about white people. It's funny, you know? I'm not gonna sit I don't like it when it's aggressive and it's like, you know, you need to die or, you know, pushing and wishing for death and destruction on the people. But other than that, I think the thing is hilarious.↗

3:05:41Ian MalcolmYeah, no, definitely, shock jock kind of color commentary, but, but with a, with a message and a meaning, and, you know, it's one that he's been pushing for a long time. So kudos to him. And if he can connect you with Ayukamafy, that would be a very interesting↗

3:06:04Speaker 31Yeah man. Good night, good morning, good evening, wherever you are in the world. I'm, I'm actually a white Anglo-Saxon West Indian myself. born in California, but raised in the Caribbean since I was five. So I, I have a very different- not different, but, sort of a unique perspective on race realism. You know, I, I married a black woman, raised a couple black children,↗

3:06:43Speaker 31had a couple of my own with her, and, you know, I'm, Gen X, so I have had- Plenty of time to really look at things and, and realize, you know, where the world is going, where the country's headed. It's, It's, it's interesting, you know, you, you, you get older, you get wiser, and you start realizing you've been lied to your whole life, whether it's Anne Frank, Helen Keller, you know, some faggot named Fuentes, who's,↗

3:07:23Speaker 31who's got the ear of, of every young white, and looks like a lot of Mexican and other non's, So it's really interesting. And yeah, I'll call him a faggot to his face. Now I wouldn't do that to a Bilzerian. Plus, I don't think Bilzerians gay. I wouldn't do that to him, but I'd do it to Fuentes, 'cause I, I'm pretty sure I could take him even at my age.↗

3:07:45Speaker 31The, yeah, it's interesting. I went to public schools, I went to private schools in the, in the Caribbean, US Virgin Islands to be exact. So I got a, I got a mix of everything. I learned to dance quadrille. You know, all, all our teachers were mostly-- I mean, you're pretty woke if you're, if you're able to Go down there, live down there, and you're from America, and you look European, you, you definitely are a, you know, Trump hater, not a Republican, it's just par for the course.↗

3:08:21Speaker 31But, you know, it also gave me a chance to be able to kind of blend in everywhere I went and stay out of trouble. So I got, I got into the military, I was stationed in Hawaii, and I was surfing every day. And if you learn to act like them, speak like them, you can surf really good spots and not get beat up every day. So it was,↗

3:08:45Speaker 31it, it was a plus for me, but, you know, this whole thing about, you know, somebody, you asked if, if somebody had ever filled out an application, made me think, when I, when I left the islands And I was applying for jobs, somewhere around like, I guess it was twenty twelve, somewhere around there, thirteen, and I wasn't getting any callbacks, so I said, "You know what? I'm gonna stop putting ca-caucasian. I'm gonna put mixed race. My great-grandmother's from Spain, what the hell, you know?" And I started getting callbacks, and I started-- and then I started realizing, you know, this whole DEI thing, and why do they ask, you know, what race you are,↗

3:09:26Speaker 31on, on an application? And like, why does that matter? Well, they're keeping quotas. Who's keeping quotas? Well, BlackRock, like Ian says, the whole hyphenating, you know, oh, I'm, African American, oh, Mexican American. We need to stop the hyphenating shit. Like, just, you know, let's figure that out. You know, when ICE came to town in LA and they were grabbing,↗

3:09:50Speaker 31people to, you know, I, I, I was trying to follow it as much as I could, and it looked like they were Criminals, you know, the, the actual offenders that, that were in, in our country illegally, like I can't go to, I can't go to Australia and fly over there and just start living there, I'll get flown back, you know, as soon as, as soon as my visa's up or, or whatever.↗

3:10:12Speaker 31and, so that, y- and then you see, you see what happens with these people too. They get upset And what happens? They start flying the flag of the nation they're from, and they could be two, three, four generations American, but they still grab the, the, the nation, that flag of the nation they're from. So that shit has to stop. And,↗

3:10:38Speaker 31you know, and, and real quick, there's a, a Father Freely, Catholic priest, he's famous for a quote that he said, having a TV in your house is like having a Jew in your living room, and, unfortunately, social media is just, the TV on steroids, and I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna help us or, or keep this, keep this, dumpster fire raging, but, I'm, I'm here. I got front row seats, like, George Carlin says, "Front row seats to the circus." I'll end it there, thanks.↗

3:11:21@joann_marieAlright, thank you so much for coming on. Let me be frank.↗

3:11:26@joann_marieNew York strong, welcome.↗

3:11:33@joann_marieNew York strong? Going once, going twice. Alright, Yankee, welcome, go for it.↗

3:11:41@ceo_superdragonHey, And-Andre, when you were in the army, what rank did you get out as? Specialist E-4. Me too. Yeah, corporal in the Marine Corps. Do you think that part of your views and why you have higher standards was because you were held to higher standards from basic training onward that corresponded with your rank versus who you are as a person?↗

3:12:06Speaker 23no, I would say it added to it, but no, it was more, my upbringing, just household.↗

3:12:12@ceo_superdragonInteresting.↗

3:12:14Speaker 23I feel like that. Never mind. It, it refined it, no doubt, like, not taking away from it. but mainly was my upbringing, my parents and everything. I get most of my, you know, let's take, take accountability, do shit the right way, so you don't have to do it again, that comes from just being around my parents.↗

3:12:35@ceo_superdragonInteresting. Well, I wanted to go into something else, I was just curious about that, because you seemed like you've distinguished yourself in ways that is respectable, and, you know, you don't get that a lot with other people, that are black. Usually they, like we saw the couple people that did come up here, they just, they couldn't even answer some basic education questions, and I feel like that system has really failed them in ways that has prevented them from integrating into a society where it's based on personal excellence. But,↗

3:13:05@ceo_superdragonThe, the facts that I wanted to go over, I feel like we're seeing a new zeitgeist being born in America, where,↗

3:13:19@ceo_superdragonI don't know how I want to word this. I guess I'll just say it. I, I, I see we're seeing a, a cultural segregation where every time I get on social media, I get on Facebook or I get on Twitter or I look on YouTube, I see some murder of some black person freaking out, throwing things in gas stations or convenience stores, and there's just this attitude and violence that's-↗

3:13:46@ceo_superdragonLike if you compare this to, like, say, 1990, where we were a homogeneous society, the murder homicide rate was 1.2 per hundred thousand, and the estimated total there in 1990 was 900 murders, where in 2020 we're seeing 7.8 to a hundred thousand, 7.8 per hundred thousand, and they estimated in 2020 that was 21,570 murders.↗

3:14:09@ceo_superdragonWhen you look at the, the crime statistics, where you see, you know, like five percent of the population, mostly repeat offenders, constantly engaged in violent crime, it's galvanizing, white pe- white Americans in such a way that we no longer wanna be around them. Like, I, I moved my family out of, like, Kansas City to a more homogenous society in the South. where the population demographics mirror 1990,↗

3:14:41@ceo_superdragonwhere it's 90% white people, and we don't have these problems, there's no murders, you hardly ever hear a police siren, the only gunshots you ever hear is the neighbor like sighting in his 30-06 or shooting a deer. It's a peaceful way to live, and I think a lot of Americans are getting to the point where we just don't wanna be around it anymore. We, we don't want to deal with it, we don't have the patience for it anymore. Like that one guy said, where you're seeing a balkanization, we're already seeing a balkanization. We're seeing a cultural and population shift. Like, look at New York City, for example, the, the white population, New York City is thirty percent, California is relatively similar, where white people are just leaving and they're flocking to areas where they're more homogenous, less crime, more people like them. We go into a church, it's, it's all white people. And I think America as it was, as it was defined in the Constitution, an American citizen was a free white man of European descent of good moral character, good moral standing. And that was stripped from us in the 1964 human rights movements where that was removed from the Constitution, and from then on the demographics began to violently shift.↗

3:16:01@ceo_superdragonin favor of white people becoming a minority.↗

3:16:06@ceo_superdragonAnd I just don't think that, I'll, I'll just say it, I don't think black people belong here anymore. I don't think other races belong here anymore. They've caused so much strife, so much violence, so much segregation, culturally, they've caused so much problems that it's like, when this was a white country, and it's fine to be a white country, that's perfectly and totally okay. It's okay to be a black country, it's okay to be an Asian country, it's okay to be a, a Filipino country. You know, it's okay to be an Indian country. Everyone should be↗

3:16:39@ceo_superdragonof themselves with their own people. And I, I think this great American experiment of mixing everyone together, saying we're a big melting pot of immigrants, it was never true. in fact, that, that, a nation of immigrants, that term was coined by the ADL specifically, to try to galvanize people into accepting and being more liberal-minded of people that were different from them.↗

3:17:07@ceo_superdragonAnd that's become an engine and a vessel for political subversion as well, where we see our government, the people that represent us, have foreign opinions and foreign ideologies that- Or anti-white that are telling us that we need to kowtow and bow down to people that aren't us. And I think that's going to lead to more problems than it's ever led to before. In fact, we can use any reference point in history where European countries were mass-migrated to in the past, when they were less liberal.↗

3:17:48@ceo_superdragonTremendous and horrific violent outcomes where they were thrown out of the country.↗

3:17:56@ceo_superdragonAnyways, that's really all I had to say. Like when we talk about race realism, I, I just wanna point out to the fact that we're coming to a bridge that I don't think can be-↗

3:18:07@ceo_superdragonI just don't think there's a bridge there anymore. I, I don't think there is a place for us to say we can share the same country and live happily with each other. And that makes me sad to say, because I have had some really good black friends in the past, whom, like you, had high standards for themselves for personal excellence. But you are so few and far in between that you will always be judged by the stereotypes that they perpetrate.↗

3:18:32@ceo_superdragonSorry for that.↗

3:18:34Speaker 23Well, you know, that's the perspective you have looking outside, which is fine. I mean, hey, you don't have that perspective. but for myself, being inside the box and, and knowing how it is in here, I'm very optimistic that things will change. because it's not you are tired, I'm tired, and the exhaustion that you may have I mean, the exhaustion I have, I mean, it's, yeah, I'm fucking, I'm, I'm fed up, I'm done. And there are a lot of black people who share the same sentiment. So it's not doom and gloom, well, we're gonna forever, are we niggers, and niggers will never think more. I'm not saying you're saying that, but, you know, that's the perspective how we're looking at, at the black community from the outside. I don't have that same feeling. I'm very confident in myself and my word and what I'm doing, and how there's a lot of black people support me, even niggas that will come out and say, "You know, I, I don't like the, delivery, but I, I, I feel what you're saying, I agree." They're coming around to it. The problem is we can't allow this, and this is up to myself and other people who make similar, who have a similar message, but have similar content.↗

3:19:40Speaker 23We can't allow the black Republican, you know, the, the, the, the go- the kosher good goys you see out there on the black Republican black right, they just wanna push this pro-Jew, pro-integration shit. Like, you know, I can live in suburbia and, you know, I, I'm good because, you know, I talk, I fuck white women or some shit like that. I, I get tired of seeing that shit. No, be black,↗

3:20:04Speaker 23be, you know, very, well articulated, build yourself properly. Build your family, lean into a, a proper profession that's not basketball rapping. carry yourself as if you want people to look at you with some respect. We don't do that. We carry ourselves in, in the most poor manner possible. And yeah, people are tired. I would be tired too if I was any other race, in, in this country. I don't think it can maintain with all this diversity. I don't think we should sit back and constantly allow people to come to this country who are incompatible with our culture, who have no understanding of our history, our identity beyond what they read in a magazine or watch on television.↗

3:20:43Speaker 23I think America, historically, yes, we're not excluding the, various, not various, but the obvious, white existence in this country, this country was mainly founded for white Europeans of good faith and good moral character. and has been like that for a majority of its time. That shouldn't ever go away, but you really can't exclude the black, black people who were here, brought over here, wouldn't ask to be over here, brought over here so by Africans, Jews, and Arabs,↗

3:21:16Speaker 23and brought over here to do cheap labor, farm equipment. So, I mean, I get it, you know, this country used to be ninety percent white I think it'll still be majority white, but there's a lot that has to happen in order to, to get to that point again. But I don't think that black people will be excluded from that. And if you do, it's, it's gonna be a very brutal conflict, with that alone, that a lot of white people will turn on you for. So that's something I always caution people when they, we have these conversations, like, "Yeah, it could get really bad. Like nothing is impossible. Everything is possible. There, everything isn't possible." It's just, it's up to-- do the conditions for this to exist, are they met? And I don't think we're at a point where we're gonna see a, like, a very large racial conflict. I think there's gonna be a lot of cracking down that needs to be done and a very tough conversation, and it's good that we're having the conversation now, but when the hammer hits the head, it's gonna be-- it's not gonna be nice.↗

3:22:15Ian MalcolmYeah, can you wanna follow up on that?↗

3:22:20@ceo_superdragonNot necessarily. I'll just say I fundamentally disagree that, blacks should have citizenship. Same with Jews or Indians or other. I, I think the, the welfare state removing that as a enabler would take care of ninety percent of the problem. I don't think they would stay here. But, no, I, I, I'm at the point now where I no longer agree. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.↗

3:22:42Speaker 19Where do you think they would go? You're saying if there was no welfare state, they wouldn't? Stay here. What does that mean?↗

3:22:53@ceo_superdragonI believe that many of them are reliant on like Section 8 housing, food stamps, et cetera, and if they weren't able to have that, David, don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me. You asked me a question, I'm going to finish the answer, all right, David? So shut the fuck up and let me finish. No, no,↗

3:23:08@joann_marieno, no, no, no, no, we're not gonna disrespect one another, okay?↗

3:23:13@ceo_superdragonWhat I was going to say was, hey, who are you, who are you? David asked me a question, I'm gonna give him an answer, and then I'm gonna be quiet. Oh my↗

3:23:20@joann_mariegod, okay, donkey. So what I↗

3:23:22@ceo_superdragonmean by they're going to stay, I don't believe that they'll stay here in this country, David. I don't care where they go.↗

3:23:27Speaker 19Okay, so Where would they go? So if they're not going to stay, so your point is that if they're not getting welfare, do you realize there's a large, there are a lot of blacks that aren't getting welfare at all? They're actually, I mean, 70% of people- That's not true.↗

3:23:42@ceo_superdragonOne in five blacks are on food stamps right now.↗

3:23:44Speaker 19Okay, good. So I said a lot, so let's, let's work on our math skills here. I said a lot. Who the fuck are you insulting, David? Hold on.↗

3:23:52@joann_mariehe's not insulting you, he's being right. Say, let's work on our math↗

3:23:55@ceo_superdragonskills is implying that I don't have math skills, David.↗

3:23:58Speaker 19Right. That's correct. Exactly. So, Joanne, he is↗

3:24:00@ceo_superdragoninsulting me. Okay. Yeah.↗

3:24:05Speaker 19If it seems like, deep breaths, deep breaths, deep breaths. If, if it seems like I'm talking down to you↗

3:24:14Speaker 19That means four out of five are not dependent upon welfare, and you're saying they're all-- these other four out of five are gonna get up and go, "Where? " And also, you wanna take away their citizenship? Okay, these people didn't invade, these aren't interlopers. Right? They didn't invade their country. If there's one group, David, is↗

3:24:33@ceo_superdragonthat your problem?↗

3:24:33Speaker 19If there's one group, hold on, if there's one group of people that didn't invade their country, in fact came under duress, it's these people, and the idea that we're gonna say, "Oh, okay, well, first of all, there's two..." This mic cut out. There's two. Can you please don't↗

3:24:48@joann_marieinterrupt. No, right.↗

3:24:49Speaker 19There's two spurious ideas here. One is that we're gonna just sort of take away your citizenship, and the second one is that if we take away welfare benefits, that they're the-those four out of five you just mentioned, you just said that they weren't on welfare, are going to get up and go. That's a bit counterintuitive, my friend. Why would people that aren't on welfare get up and go? Help me out with that one.↗

3:25:11Speaker 29he left or dropped down. I think, I think he's Mike↗

3:25:15@joann_mariewith Bright, Bright Blue Team. Alright. And she's connecting right now.↗

3:25:19Speaker 19Okay.↗

3:25:22Ian MalcolmAnd I just wanna call out, I didn't, I didn't, yank the mic, Yankee.↗

3:25:27@joann_marieNo, she's having some problems with-↗

3:25:29Speaker 19Yeah. I'm not as nice when someone's not nice to me, by the way, so, but no, like it's just- I think that's gonna still, you know, our friend here just mentioned something earlier, and I think people just went right by it, which is free association. We never talk about that option, the middle ground here. If, look, it's the political state that's forcing people up against each other, that's saying, "You're the-- any problems that the black community has are laid squarely at the feet of white people." Well, of course, that's a straightaway invitation to conflict. But what if that's gone? What if we take away the violence of the state and say free association, where white people can go live anywhere they want, if they wish to not associate, they can, if they wish to associate, then they don't-- if they don't wish to associate, they don't have to. And of course, there's equilibrium there, right? There's all the sudden spontaneous order. But this idea that, oh, we're just gonna round these people up and throw them out, or the other one is, which was a weird claim to make, four out of five people Even though they're not on welfare, are going to get up and leave because welfare's gone. That just doesn't make any sense.↗

3:26:36Speaker 23Yeah, a lot of this, you know, re-total remigration stuff doesn't work without a very bad conflict in this country, and you're gonna lose a lot of white people. I mean, yeah, you get rid of all the blacks, but you're gonna lose a lot of white people who are gonna be very much in opposition to that, because, yeah, where am I gonna go to Africa 'cause there's no more welfare? Oh, well, shit. Ain't no more welfare for the niggas↗

3:26:55Speaker 26anymore, so we might as well just leave too.↗

3:26:58@ceo_superdragonSo, excuse me, I was wrong before. It's actually twenty-seven percent of Black Americans are on food stamps right now.↗

3:27:03Speaker 19Okay, so that's on, that's a little over seventy percent. That's a lot, isn't it? Hold on. That's a little, no, I said a lot aren't. I said, so a little over seventy percent aren't on food stamps. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,↗

3:27:19@joann_marieyou're,↗

3:27:24Speaker 19So you-- so that means a little over seventy percent of black people are not on welfare, and you think they're gonna get up and leave when welfare's gone? Why? Why would people that are, that are obviously doing quite well in this country, enough to not on, not be on welfare, in other words, they've accepted, a hand up through the market, market forces, instead of a handout, why would those people that are, by definition, your own definition, self-sufficient, why would they leave when welfare ends, when they're not taking welfare? Help me out with this one.↗

3:28:02@ceo_superdragonI said a lot will leave, David, and I think that's a number one contributor to a problem.↗

3:28:07Speaker 19Okay, so now your point. Okay, so now you're--↗

3:28:09@ceo_superdragonIt's like ten million people. That is a lot of people, David. Or are you trying to say ten million people isn't a large group? Okay,↗

3:28:15Speaker 19hold on, hold on. So now you're saying, and I'm okay to-- I'm okay if we're recalibrating here. Now you're saying, "Oh no, I didn't mean they would all get up and leave. I just meant that the twenty↗

3:28:31@ceo_superdragonWhen↗

3:28:31Speaker 19I↗

3:28:32@ceo_superdragonsaid it would solve a lot of the problem, David, I wasn't specific enough for you. I apologize. Honestly, I'd be more pissed if a lot of people↗

3:28:39Speaker 19that are on welfare will leave. Okay. So you're saying that the black people that aren't on welfare, you don't expect them to get up and leave. You expect the black people that are on welfare to get up and leave. Is that correct? Yes. Okay.↗

3:28:56Ian MalcolmOut of curiosity, where do you think they would go?↗

3:29:01@ceo_superdragonI don't↗

3:29:01Ian Malcolmcare. And I'm, I'm, I'm not trying to play devil's advocate, I'm, I'm just sincerely curious. But, if we were to say blacks are 13% of America, and there's roughly-- I don't even know the numbers 'cause of the illegal migration, but say it's 300 million people, 41↗

3:29:18@ceo_superdragonmillion, sorry? Around, around forty-one million people.↗

3:29:22Ian Malcolmin, in totalities of thirteen percent, yeah. So I was gonna say roughly, let's call it ten million people that might leave. So it's a pretty large number of people, right? I, I don't know where they would go in this theoretical though, because, you know, e-e-even if you take away some of the subsidies, the United States still has a, a pretty decent safety net, right?↗

3:29:42@ceo_superdragonI don't know what you mean by safety net.↗

3:29:44Ian MalcolmWell, there's, let's say there's, there's a decent number of perks, I, I think Andre has mentioned this earlier, right? there, there, there's certainly worse places to be than, the United States, even if you lost, food stamps or other SNAP benefits, for example.↗

3:30:01@ceo_superdragonThere are other liberal nations, across the world that they can go to and receive the same kind of benefits as here. Name, name three.↗

3:30:10@ceo_superdragonLet me look it up, because I don't know off the top of my head.↗

3:30:12Speaker 19Do you know it off any other part of your head?↗

3:30:16@ceo_superdragonNo, David, I don't really take account to many other countries and how they do things. Well, I mean, because I can look it up for you, and I can probably prove my point. I'm just guessing that other countries have welfare, David. I think that's a common sense approach to things.↗

3:30:28Speaker 19Okay, well, I like where you're going with this. So in your mind, people that only know this culture, only know where they live Are going to get up and go somewhere else, and that country that's a welfare state is going to say, "Yes, come in here, not knowing the language, and we'll give you welfare." So that's, so that's- Yes, in↗

3:30:51@ceo_superdragonfact, that's actually happening. In fact, you can, like, there's, there's a problem with anchor babies in Ireland. A Nigerian woman will come into Ireland, eight months pregnant, have her baby, and then become citizenship and get on welfare. So yes, it is a thing, David.↗

3:31:02Speaker 19Right. So they might get up and go↗

3:31:07@ceo_superdragonNo, that's not what I'm saying. I haven't actually made a definitive statement. What I said was, "I don't care." What you want to do is lock me into a definitive statement. No, on some theoretical- I'm not locking you in on an opinion that I have that I don't really think is relevant or going to happen. Pardon me? You want to lock me in on a definitive statement where I think they will go on a hypothetical question that will probably never happen.↗

3:31:30Speaker 19I mean, questions tend to be hypothetical, but no, I just wanted to understand what you were thinking. It's okay if that's all you got. I'm actually not-- There's not enough there to disagree with. I'm just trying to understand because, you know, at least we've sort of narrowed it down. So, I guess what you're saying is that a percentage of those ten million might leave and go somewhere where there's welfare benefits.↗

3:31:51@ceo_superdragonThat's what they're In fact, Africa is receiving a huge-- or, excuse me, Europe is receiving a huge ton of immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. And that-- so now that I've looked it up, let's look at the Nordic Social Democrats. So Sweden, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, we're talking about people going from America, though. There's Austria, Belgium, there's Canada, there's Australia, there's Italy, Spain, Greece, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and all of these places are having an influx of migration from the countries that they came from. Yeah↗

3:32:19@ceo_superdragonExactly. They all gotta go home.↗

3:32:21Speaker 23Yankee,↗

3:32:22@ceo_superdragonYankee. So, so what is it, what is it wrong for me to say if we cut off welfare, a lot of the people that came here specifically for a welfare system because they can live off it for free would probably leave because a lot of people didn't↗

3:32:32Speaker 19come here for a welfare system. They came here for a welfare system? I, have you read this?↗

3:32:37@ceo_superdragonDid you not hear me when I said a Nigerian woman came months ago and moved to Ireland just so she can get citizenship and welfare?↗

3:32:43Speaker 23Black people came here. Yankee, I need you to, Black people and African Americans, I get your↗

3:32:49@ceo_superdragonmoment, but he doesn't actually understand. Nobody's saying he doesn't understand. Yeah, no, no, I'm not. Hold on just one second. He doesn't understand what black people, black countries have.↗

3:32:56@joann_marieAnd↗

3:32:56@ceo_superdragonso he's↗

3:32:56@joann_marietrying to make himself look smart by doing that. I hear, I can barely hear you. Yeah, you're correct. But Janke-↗

3:33:01Ian MalcolmAlright, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna mute the whole room. We're gonna ask everybody to take a deep breath again. We're actually probably gonna reset the conversation because I don't see this one going in a direction that is going to land at, at individuals shaking hands and agreeing to disagree. So instead, what we'll do is we'll go to NY Strong, and then we will go to Ariyanis, I hope I pronounced that, correct, and then we're gonna go to Iconic.↗

3:33:30@joann_marieNY Strong.↗

3:33:33@joann_marieHe's still not there. Alright, Ariano's, welcome, go for it.↗

3:33:40Speaker 32Hello, can you hear me?↗

3:33:41@joann_marieYeah, welcome.↗

3:33:43Speaker 32Hey, thanks for giving me a chance to speak, Ian. I've been following you for a while. I appreciate your content. and Andre, this is my first time getting exposure to you, but I do enjoy the dialogue. so I'm a, serious and committed white nationalist, I have been for over ten years. I don't do any, public activities or anything like that, but- I do have family. Me and my wife have several children, and we raise our children,↗

3:34:11Speaker 32to be race-first and to avoid miscegenation and to take pride in our people. And I've met with lots of people in this movement, and there's a really big challenge that I feel like I can never really get a great answer to, and so, just wanted to bring this question to the forefront. I'm interested in David Nietzsche's response to this. and then I have a second question for Andre Williams, and so in the interest of time, I'll be quick.↗

3:34:43Speaker 32for David Nietzsche, you know, considering the unique nature of the challenge of getting mass acceptance for the truth Race realism. you know, you have to think about, you know, Jewish power structures block it, average people have been conditioned for a long time to feel averse to it, right? and, and then just the idea that, you know, a person's biology, being an immutable characteristic, having a strong bearing on how they and their racial kin will likely behave and how much civilizational and intellectual potential they will likely have on average. I understand that there's outliers, right? Andre is obviously one of them, but- Being that it's, it's something that's tied to biology and it has this sort of deterministic feeling, I feel like it's a unique societal challenge to gain mass acceptance on. How do you approach we do that? Because I do agree that the truth is important and we should pursue this because it is the truth, but considering its unique obstacles from the interest groups that are, that don't like it, the conditioning, and then this sort of determinism that comes from, you know, it being a mutable characteristic How do we get more people to accept such a hard truth? And then I have a follow-up for Andre.↗

3:35:54Speaker 19Well, I don't mean to quibble, I'm an anti-semantic, so when you say immutable characteristic, I think what you're saying, if I may steelman your position here, I think what you're saying is that, that IQ, determines on an average basis outcome. Is that what you're- What you mean by immutable characteristic?↗

3:36:16Speaker 32Yeah, generally speaking, I'm saying that the biology of that is true. Yeah, exactly. And those particular individuals that belong to a particular group may have an average baseline, and that baseline may represent either, a certain level of potential or a certain ceiling that is a limitation. And so when we start to talk about that as a truth and try to get mass appeal for it, it tends to come with very strong feelings, not to mention all the other power brokers that aren't interested in it coming out. So how do we- Hey, no. How do we address that? David, I, I think that question was for Ian and not- Oh, no.↗

3:36:50Speaker 19Was it for David or Ian?↗

3:36:52Speaker 32No, I, I addressed it to David and Neeti, but I, I'm very open to Ian's feedback as well. Well,↗

3:36:57Speaker 19so your, the assertion that's built into your question is so spot on because I'm, one of my dear friends on X is Hitchhup, and he almost exclusively, not almost exclusively, talks a great deal about-- He's sort of the, the cognoscenti of IQ. He's, he's very much an expert in this, in this field, and he actually has interviewed Charles Murray, and I've read The Bell Curve myself. And it's just, there's no sentimentality for anybody to want to talk about this subject. So you were spot on, it's kind of a, it's kind of a third rail.↗

3:37:37Speaker 19and all we can do is just keep talking about it. I will say that racial realism really is kind of taking off, is realizing, oh gosh, that we're not all the same. You know, we're saying this, we're trying, we're asserting this to make ourselves feel good But, and you know, something I haven't said to Andre is that I noticed that there is almost like a tidal wave of black people that are acknowledging, like they're mad at the lower spectrum of black people that are just acting out. Like that's, that's becoming a big thing now, right? And they're being much more frank than white people. So I don't know the answer as far as the ultimate, in, in the ultimate sense, but I will say, it looks like the truth is winning out on disparities in IQ and temperament and these sorts of things. I mean, every race has some specialness about them, and also, I think that the way moving forward is to acknowledge the fact that you're not making any moral claims about one person being, more-- claim that there's an extended phenotype for every race. If the Japanese go live anywhere, including, you know, in Peru, where they have a little population, their extended phenotype is really obvious, and this is true with almost any race of people, you can see their- Extended phenotype. We obviously know that nature has conducted experiments for millions of, or at least hundreds of thousands of years, and then of course, as the races come together, we pretend when we're seeing Kumbaya that we're all exactly the same, and then the political state with Jewish supremacy forces it up against each other and then pronounces that the failings of one race are laid at the feet in terms of guilt at the other race. So these are, it's a very uncomfortable conversation, and the only answer I have is just keep having it.↗

3:39:24Speaker 32no, thanks for the feedback.↗

3:39:26Ian MalcolmYeah, and, and just to build on what David said, and, and this isn't stated with any slur or slight towards anybody, and I, I wanna call that out because especially when it comes to the group that's at the top of what I'm about to refer to, I don't believe it's necessarily due purely to merit, right? But if we do look at incomes based by races of individuals, in the United States, right, we're going to notice that there's patterns of wealth distributed across, migrant groups that are relatively new to the United States, right? And if that's the case, it begets the question, why might that be? Now, you can make the argument that it's because the individuals from India, for example, that are coming to the United States are wealthier, that they have, you know, it's the, it's the ones that have been afforded nice educations, all those other things. I believe that that's true in particular for Indian Americans, but you look at a lot of the, the Asian Americans and the various nations That have, that have migrated here, a lot of those people come with nothing, and give them a generation or two, and they have built a, you know, a small business, they've pooled all their money together, they've been able to send their kids off to a private school, they've been able to dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. And, and so to David's point about the Japanese, you can put them anywhere, right? You could put a Japanese family in the United States that has virtually nothing, they very well might be able to build something out of nothing very quickly,↗

3:40:54Ian MalcolmThat, I think, has been shunned for the exact same reason we're not allowed to ask, "Who owns all the media?" Right? It is the third rail because the group in charge wants to stir everything up, and one of the only ways to be able to do that is by convincing everybody that they are all one and the same, which we're not. And there's nothing wrong with noting that there are differences in IQ, differences in height, differences in athleticism, differences in hair color, right? It doesn't mean that all people are anything. The Chinese are- Typically a little shorter. They're typically not as, they don't have as much testosterone, right? And so that plays into perhaps behavior, lack of criminality also plays into their, their abilities in the dating market for what it's worth, right? Also results in not a lot of them being in the NBA. But Yao Ming is the very tall guy, right? So not all people are anything, but, but we need to be able to be as honest about the races and all of their various characteristics the same way that we would in, in evaluating canines and deciding, I'm not going to put the pit bull with the family that has three little children. That's a bad idea, right? And it's also a bad idea for us to think that the, let's say the, the macro generalities that you can make around any set of animals, that it is off limits to label them onto individuals, whether it's based on race, whether it's based on ethnicity, on nationality, on educational level, right? These, these are Reasonable things to do. It is reasonable to look down an alleyway late at night as a woman and say, "I see a, a man dressed like Eminem from a rap video and he's got a baseball bat. I'm not going to walk down that alleyway. I'm going to walk down the alleyway with the black guy wearing a suit." Right? But that is a-- that is an evaluation that you have to make. Humans make these types of observations and evaluations literally thousands of times, if not tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of times a day about every- Everything that you do, right? And, and, and what is essentially happening is we live in a society where Jewish supremacy says you have to take all of those fighter senses and put them aside and instead replace them with this idea that we are all the same. We aren't. We're not all equally beautiful, intelligent, and that applies to the individuals as well as to the races. And that's just, that's the reality of the world, and we have to be able to have those conversations because if you can't, you're forcing disaster onto society inevitably. At least that's my thought on it. Andre, I'm not sure if you wanna add to some thoughts to that one, and then we'll go down to, I, I do have a follow-up↗

3:43:28Speaker 32question that's different than that, that's specific for Andre, not to interject.↗

3:43:34Speaker 23Yeah, I, I 1,000% agree. That's the perspective I've had on race realism, just from growing up and what I was taught. this idea that everyone is the same, it's ridiculous. I mean, we're different individually, but when it comes to the race, it's, no,↗

3:43:53Speaker 23No, it's not working that way. you can't mix certain people in certain systems and certain societies with other people. I mean, the same thing goes for an individual. You got two different personalities, I don't know if you guys believe in the, what's your sign shit, but you know, you can't put a Sagittarius with a Capricorn or some stupid shit, you know? But that exists on that level, which is very, you know, fairy tale shit. But, if it exists on that level, then it's got to exist And keeping this divide going, because Jews thrive in multiculturalism, they thrive in racial chaos, they've always done historically, and it's a problem for all of us at the end of the day.↗

3:44:33Ian Malcolmspeaking of those signs, Andre and David, I'm sure you'll appreciate this. I can't tell you how many times I've, I've mixed up astrology and astronomy, and the, the next thing I know, I've got a scientist looking at me, and they're like, "Oh, you're one of those bad shit↗

3:44:46Speaker 32people." But go for it, guys. Do you↗

3:44:53Speaker 32Yeah, go for it. Yeah, thank you. and, and just all of you, I think, kind of reiterated just a comment on y'all's replies that we need to keep having the conversation. I strongly agree. One of my concerns, however, is that the conversation, has been so bottlenecked into X, because what Elon has done with X, love him or hate him, has allowed for us to have, you know, somewhat of a platform more than we had over ten years ago. I never thought we'd be having these discussions ten years ago when I got into- White nationalism, which is just racially homogeneous preference for white people, really, if we were to abstract it. But, so that is encouraging, but I do worry that we're only on one bridge, and if that bridge is taken out, it can set the conversation back. I don't know what we can do about that, but it's a concern I have. My follow-up question for Andre is, about nature versus nurture.↗

3:45:44Speaker 32I think that any group of people or any living, you know, organisms, can have improved behavior and conditions if, their environment is amenable, right? and I think that goes for blacks as well, but I am of the belief that blacks have a biological, predisposition towards lower IQs and certain other behaviors that may be, counterproductive towards achieving civilizational heights, and I think- I think that if, even if they were to segregate and separate and take charge of their own lives, which I do encourage, by the way, and sincerely would like to see,↗

3:46:22Speaker 32I'm skeptical as to whether they could really pull themselves up and achieve the sort of civilizational heights that, you know, they would, I'm sure, like to achieve, because I think there's a biological component that's limiting there. How do you view it as someone who's, inside the box as you put it previously? Do you think that it can be overcome? Do you have a more Bo If it's not nature, I'd be interested to, to hear your thoughts on that, that balance between the two and how far you think you and your people can go, should you be in ideal conditions.↗

3:46:55Speaker 23Like I said, I'm very optimistic. I'm, I'm not gonna sit back and accept, "Oh, you know, we'll never be great and nothing great will ever happen to us." I think that's a very-- I don't think that any people throughout human history whether we're looking throughout Europe or Asia or even Africa, have ever had that, that, mindset and really have been successful while having that mindset. So I refuse to, you know, to really subscribe to that. now the reality of how we are today, I mean, this is how we are today, and we can move in a positive dire- direction or a negative one. It's all really up to the, the conditions in which we nurture. But, you know, each individual and each individual group has its own nature. I mean, we know this, and You know, that each of us have our own nature of doing things, and which we nurture, each generation of people to come up and, and to follow that. And as they no longer become beneficial to us, we should, of course, discard them and create something that is beneficial, and can give us an advantage, in, in, in this competitive world that we live in, in the world that we live in today. So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not really a I've heard these conversations for like ten years, like everything that everyone's saying. That's why I'm, you know, I'm so used to it 'cause I have an answer for it and my response to it, and I've listened to every perspective. In the early days of, you know, the alt-right and the identitarian movement, when you had a lot of people like Jared Ta- Jared Taylor was very, very booming on YouTube, Richard Spencer was getting his start, these conversations were being had all the time, and I picked up on it because it's, you know You know, I am a Black American. This is my family's been here for almost three hundred years. You know, it's-- I'm a part of this. So listening to each perspective of how the white people view things and how Black people should view, you know, ourselves, it's always interesting. But I never, never will subscribe to this idea that,↗

3:48:49Speaker 23nothing good will ever happen. We're only stuck to this point. There's a ceiling for us. I don't think there's a ceiling for humanity. I don't think there's a ceiling for an↗

3:48:57Speaker 32individual. I Great, I, I, and I think your optimism will carry you very far, it's an important component, but do, do you reject the sort of contemporary, consensus amongst race realists that blacks, on average, have a lower IQ and maybe slightly higher testosterone, which creates a predisposition to violence? Do you, do you accept that contemporary- But where did you↗

3:49:22Speaker 33get, where did, where did you get that from? W-what did you, what, let me ask. And what a↗

3:49:28Speaker 23poetic example, that's crazy. Fucking, oh my goodness, we are live. Oh my goodness. You just proved the point. If you do that again, I'm gonna have to get off the stage.↗

3:49:34Speaker 33Are you picnicking for conversation or what?↗

3:49:40Speaker 23I mean, we can have a conversation, but don't come in acting like a fucking nigga. You just proved the damn-- not you, but the guy, just proved the fucking point. I↗

3:49:46Speaker 26thought it was an open mic. I'm just, I'm just coming in harder and harder every day. Like, I'm↗

3:49:51Ian Malcolmjust asking, I'm just asking, no emotions, bro. It's un- and here's the irony, really quickly. speaking of, let's say predispositions to certain behaviors, I could predict with what was probably a ninety percent certainty Based on the, the behavior of that individual, that they were going to come in to this conversation and interrupt. I was then going to warn them that if they did it again, that I would remove them, which I did when they, in fact, interrupted again. Now, here's the irony. They are presently, I guarantee you, they are furiously working with their thumbs down in the purple pill to say, "Woe is me, I didn't get a chance to share my take." And why? Why is this so common amongst certain groups when we have certain conversations? By the way, I wanna give a big shout out to Myron Gaines, very humbled that he's here with us. And Myron, if you're not familiar with, Andre Williams, extremely excited to be able to connect the two of you. He's absolutely- No, I'm very, I'm↗

3:50:52Speaker 22very familiar with him. Black people are retarded. I don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna call it like it is. They're fucking stupid. They're low IQ. They're fucking morons. They're They're, they put, they put, feelings over facts. It's actually fucking ridiculous. This whole Chud the Builder case has been, perfect example of, you know, black people have lower, lower IQ and not being able to assess the facts and circumstances of a self-defense case versus their own feelings and personal grievances with Chud. You don't have to like Chud to stand for the law, stand for principle, and stand for, an American's right to defend themselves regardless of your politics, but they don't have that ability to do so. Like someone said Have lower IQ. Yeah, they fucking do. That's not even like, that's a fact. It is what it is. They average about 85 IQ. And then some stupid fried chicken counter store comes in here, wait, why you gotta say that? 'Cause it's true, you stupid fucking monkey. That's why. I'm phrasing it to you, motherfuckers. It is what it is. Like, it's just so ridiculous how-- like, every time I talk to black people, I feel like a fucking zookeeper. They're retarded. They don't understand anything.↗

3:52:00Speaker 22They chimp out, they act like idiots, they embarrass the rest of us that have any type of melanin in our skin. You know, people like Andre, we get attacked all the time by these fucking retards. He'll tell you, he'll tell you, we get death threats, they go crazy, they can never beat us intellectually, they can never prove us wrong. It's just a bunch of them saying like, "You hate your race, you a racist, you a, you a Uncle Tom, you a coon," but they can never call us fucking liars.↗

3:52:24Speaker 23Perfectly said. I, I said that, I just did an interview with Sechis and he asked me the question, "What do you say to people to call you coon?" I'm like, "I don't give a fuck. I mean, you can't say I'm wrong." You can't say that I-- what I'm saying isn't true. You niggas act a fucking fool everywhere you go, and no one wants to be around it. No one wants to be around nigger behavior. Simple as that. And Myron, you've been calling out for a minute, I love it. It's great, and we need more people speaking up on it, and that's why--↗

3:52:48Speaker 22Yeah, there's not enough of us, bro. There's not enough of us. It's like, literally, bro, we're freezin' to these monkeys, and these nigg No one wants to live in your neighborhoods. Nobody, fucking, it's, it's actually ask, not act, right? Fat women weigh about, I mean, black women weigh 187 pounds on average. They're fat as fuck, they're retarded, they're loud, they're obnoxious. Nobody wants to be with them. They rank the lowest on dating apps. These are all facts, bro. 85 IQ. It's just ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous, bro. So it's like, you know, we're just saying what everyone else is thinking. You know↗

3:53:30Speaker 23Yeah, I got fucking total fatigue. I just love the, the death threats where, "You ain't ever gonna be in a black area saying this," and I'm downtown Detroit like all the time. I'm always walking around. I, I go to my, my childhood neighborhood to say what's up. So I don't know why these niggas think that I'm supposed to be fearful of you niggas doing exactly what you do every fucking day, shooting each other and, and over fucking shoes and, and, and words. I don't give a fuck. I'll keep saying it regardless↗

3:53:59Speaker 23You're just gonna be proving me right, because people gonna see like, "Oh, look, they killed his black ass because he said the truth." That's what they're gonna say, and they're gonna be fucking worse off, niggas. So, the niggas is ready to come and jump out with this dude, Planty, Planty here, and Iconic. I can already sense the fucking jump out, just from this, this interaction here alone, I can sense the shit right now. I can smell the black in miles from here. Go ahead, Planetir, if you wanna say something. Wait, I, I was gonna say, here,↗

3:54:25Ian Malcolmhere's what we'll do. we'll, we'll, and, and, and Miru, I'll bring you right back up. So we'll, we'll, we'll do this for a little bit of humor. but Myron, while, while we do and load this, the pinata as, as Joanne would refer to him. Myron, I'm cur, I'm curious. You've And, and accept some of these uncomfortable truths.↗

3:54:57Speaker 22Yeah, I mean, we've all kind of known it, right? But people didn't wanna say anything, you know? They, they-- But I would say like the George Floyd riots, right? you know, it kind of began-- I mean, this really began in the nineties, this whole bullshit with, you know, would-- It started with like Rodney King, then OJ Simpson. We all know OJ's not guilty, right? but it, it started in the nineties and then it really, really boiled over↗

3:55:22Speaker 22It really is. They're very protesting getting a golden casket for a multi-time felon, that's, you know, been committing crimes, robbing people, you know, he's in the commission of two felonies. When he got arrested, he was passing a fake note, which is a federal crime, and then he, was obviously conducting a drug transaction, another felony. And, you know, we all know he swallowed fentanyl. He had a, a heart condition, a pre-existing heart condition. And Derek Chauvin should be, pardoned. He shouldn't Not on his neck, on his back. that is the technique taught by the Minneapolis Police Department. This was shown by, by his defense. But the reality is that he didn't get a fair trial. And anyone that has half a brain or has any type of respect for the rule of law will tell you he didn't get a fair trial. There was a BLM fucking member, activist in the fucking jury. You know what I mean? There was no way that he was gonna get a fair trial. So↗

3:56:12Speaker 22you know, George Floyd, and then he had obviously a lethal a dosage of, of fentanyl in his, in his system. So this is the type of people, that the black community will martyr, right? Like, like you'll take someone like, like, I'll give you guys an example, like, when I went to school, right, I used to get decent grades, whatever, speak proper English, whatever, they'll look at people like me and say, "You a nerd, nigga. You a cornball. You not even really↗

3:56:39Speaker 22black. You don't get respect for these motherfuckers, it's all backwards, it's all backwards, and this is why they're so fucking disheveled and retarded.↗

3:56:48Speaker 19Well, my friend, let me, let me ask you the question. More to the military. Is it, Myron, it's good to see you. It's been a minute since we've talked. I wanna, I wanna ask you this.↗

3:56:57Speaker 22Hold on, hold on, hold on, before you ask me this, hey, plant a tear, you stupid nigga. Tell me how I'm wrong. Because, because, let Tell me I'm wrong, 'cause, 'cause niggas like you always got something to say, you reparation wakanda motherfucker, you my vibranium making- Bro,↗

3:57:13Speaker 33you don't even know me first and foremost, right? So calm down. And Myron, and Myron isn't, and Myron isn't even your real name, so why'd you cosplay as a black man with a fake, with a black man name? Secondly, what's the, how many, white, the white traders in Congress, right? That made millions and billions selling Over twenty million, right? So that's not considered a mass murder of white men. So, so hold on, hold on, let me finish, let me finish, let me finish. So is that white- Is the white trend in Congress? Is the white trend in Congress?↗

3:57:47Speaker 33You think,↗

3:57:48Ian Malcolmyou think white people were at the top of the COVID pandemic? white- made money. Congress is making money. Congress is, let me, let me, can I get into the↗

3:58:01Speaker 33conversation? Damn, yo, now, now, now, hold on. Yep, yep, yep. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Congress Congress has always been eighty-five percent white, your↗

3:58:09Ian Malcolmopinion. Ian, Ian, mute this microphone, Myron, mute this microphone. And, and let me, let me, let me, let me retort↗

3:58:15Speaker 22you on a topic. Let me, let me retort you on this topic, because this guy's, you're, you're not gonna know this. Blacks don't distinguish between, Jews and whites, by the way. Let me, let me, this is what niggers do, by the way, FYI. Okay? So I already know you're about to explain to↗

3:58:36Speaker 22I don't know, yeah, you're retarded. Only Europeans have↗

3:58:40Speaker 33monkey DNA,↗

3:58:41Speaker 22bro. Of course this stupid is gonna say something retarded like that. Anyway, like, like I was saying before, this is scientific. Yes, he broke. You're not↗

3:58:50Speaker 26that. Now you're new to me. Niggas just proved the fucking point. Let me prove my point. You niggas have come up here, let me, and you've been wrong four, five, and you keep doing the same nigga shit, and you're just proving our fucking point. Thank you. I'd be a nigga over a white devil any day, bro.↗

3:59:08Speaker 33Let me finish my point, y'all mad? Let me finish my point.↗

3:59:15Speaker 33Nigga, just speak already. I got my point. Y'all start chippin' out. Y'all start chippin'↗

3:59:19Speaker 26out, motherfucker, just say↗

3:59:23Speaker 33it. Y'all start chippin' out. Congress is 85% white. Congress made millions and billions off of killin' white Americans, did they not? Due to vaccination, due to vaccination, white- millions of white Americans, poor white Americans don't let's- poor white Americans, so that is twenty million white Americans died in the last five years by white lies.↗

3:59:49Ian MalcolmWait, so is the suggestion- They sold↗

3:59:51Speaker 33them the fuck out! They're all white Americans sold them the fuck out, bro. Sold them-↗

4:00:00Speaker 34like an echo↗

4:00:03Speaker 35in your room or something. Alright, can I, can I↗

4:00:04Speaker 34respond to this retard real quick, 'cause he, 'cause he was addressing me at first, right? So, Plantation, as, as the stupid typical dumb, dumb nigga that you are, you're a dumb,↗

4:00:17Ian Malcolmdumb nigga, right? And why you got a nigga name? Why you got a nigga name? Why↗

4:00:24Speaker 34They, they have, they have no fucking decorum. Anyway, like I was saying, 'cause this is what the dumb blacks always say. They always say the same thing. You change your name, you got a fake name. Hey, retard, unlike you, I had a clearance. I worked for the government. I was specialized with Homeland Security, which means I didn't have a fucking criminal record like you, and a fucking dumbass, and actually had a good credit score, okay? I paid all my bills on time, which is how I was able to get a clearance, which you probably don Okay? I can't go ahead and have a, a fucking internet business where I'm training people and use my real, actual government name 'cause it's a very unique name, but you wouldn't understand that because you're a fucking dumbass and your name is probably Aquarius Williams, and you're just like every other Aquarius Williams. So that's why I had a different, it's a, it's called a stage name, but you wouldn't understand that 'cause you're a fucking dumbass. Like, do you use your real name right now on your Twitter account, you stupid ass↗

4:01:24Speaker 34You're over here talking about, you know, Congress and, the, the, you know, white men being in Congress and COVID and whatever. Bro, th-that's fine. You can go ahead and, you wanna have a con- you wanna talk, talk about COVID and, and Jews and Jewish power and shit like that. Fine, no problem. But let's be honest here, the discussion is on black fatigue with you motherfuckers committing ridiculous amounts of violent crime. That doesn't change the fact that you guys commit a overwhelming majority of the violent crime in the United States as being only about↗

4:01:59Ian MalcolmYeah, I think, I think Planeteer went to another planet, unless Andre or David kicked him out of the room, which I, I, I didn't do, but I didn't. I think he, he ran away. Yeah,↗

4:02:10Speaker 34we can bring his dumbass back up, but it's like that's what they always do. Well, we might, we might have another vignette with, Iconic.↗

4:02:15Ian MalcolmI think he's probably gonna take some umbrance to, to some of that. Iconic, what, what were your thoughts there?↗

4:02:21Speaker 36alright, back on that, IQ. See, I'm 20% Caucasian. I'm just now realizing I don't know any pure black people at all. So I can't even speak on that.↗

4:02:39Ian MalcolmI don't know if you made a point there, Iconic, if you were trying to- Okay.↗

4:02:42Speaker 36No, I'm just realizing I don't know any pure black people. I, you know, I always call myself African American.↗

4:02:48Ian MalcolmIconic, are you currently drunk?↗

4:02:52Speaker 37I've seen some pretty vanta black motherfuckers, bro, that are like, you know, straight up, you don't know any pure- I mean, you don't know them personally, or you saying you don't know- Right, but I don't have any motherfuckers. Because you don't need to know them personally to talk about this, you know?↗

4:03:05Speaker 36Well, then how are you supposed to know that they're dumb?↗

4:03:09Speaker 38Well, I was begin by- You gotta differentiate- I would begin by differentiating the words "supposed" and "post".↗

4:03:18Speaker 36Well, you're saying black people have low IQ and it's genetic. I'm 20% black, I have low IQ, bro. You got low IQ, I don't even know why you're talking. And I only have the↗

4:03:28Speaker 34greatest IQ. Yo, get this guy out of here, he's a fucking retard. Why do we let idiots get microphones? We-- Look, man, we gotta practice some meritocracy. Retards can't talk, okay? If I ever become president, all you retards are on the fucking chopping block, chopping blocks. I'm This dude can barely fucking formulate a sentence, he's fucking drunk. I, I don't know what to say. I, I think I knew a black guy before. Bro, shut your dumb ass up, man. Fuck out of here. I hate stupid motherfuckers, man. And that goes regardless of skin color. If I was president, all you motherfuckers under 85 IQ, you niggas, are all gonna be slaves, bro. We're gonna make America great again via slavery.↗

4:04:07Speaker 34So,↗

4:04:08Ian Malcolmso Mike, speaking of which, with, with Chad the Builder, he brought up, obviously the case is gonna get a lot of attention from the media. what do you envision come out of either verdict, whether it's guilty or not guilty? I↗

4:04:22Speaker 34think he's innocent based on the facts right now, ba-- based on the, fact pattern, 'cause I've been looking at this case. this fucking retard, for those that don't know the fact pattern, 'cause a lot of these fucking people will sit there and talk shit and say↗

4:04:36Speaker 34I agree with walking around and, livestreaming yourself potentially antagonizing people. No, I don't. But I have the ability to, discern my personal, you know, grievances or what I might feel away from, you know, the facts and circumstances of the case. And if you look at the facts and circumstances of this case, and I've spoken about this with Andrew Branca, who's a fantastic self-defense lawyer specialist,↗

4:04:59Speaker 34You know, the facts and circumstances, I would argue, are, are very good in Chud's favor. Obviously, it's, it's a criminal, it's gonna be a criminal case, it's gonna be a trial more than likely, which, you know, we, we don't know how juries are. But, basically the facts and circumstances are this: Chud was walking, to-- he was walking in front of the courthouse. This guy, Josh Love, aka Josh Fox is his real, real name, basically said, "Hey," Well, you know, they pointed at, at Chud and like laughed. Chud saw them, he, said, he walks over to them and says, "Hey, you guys like my suit or whatever." Josh Fox says, "Get the fuck outta here." He turns around, he walks away with a selfie stick as he's live-streaming on Pump Fun, and as he's walking away, Josh walks up to him and says, "Hey, you better not say that chimp out shit or that nigger shit to me." I got PTSD, I'm a veteran, right? And, and then Chaz says, "Or what? You're gonna jump out?" And the guy fucking punches him, and obviously the camera falls, and there's, there were hundreds of live viewers that, also, by the way, when this happened. they punch him,↗

4:06:00Speaker 34the dude punches them, and then they're fighting on the floor or, and they go to the ground. Now As they go to the ground, shots were fired. How do I know this? Because the investigator at the bond hearing, it, it said under, on, under oath that the shots were fired as they were falling to the ground. Well, if that's actually true, that gives Chud even more, leverage to argue self-defense. And, you got my headphones on, huh?↗

4:06:25Speaker 39Yeah,↗

4:06:25Speaker 34it's- Okay, okay. So, because anyone that knows, you know, obviously carrying a gun and/or in a, in a street fight, that, the So to the ground in a street fight, it's very dangerous. Even a BJJ expert will tell you that going to the ground in a street fight is extremely dangerous, right? Because someone can kick you, you can get attacked, et cetera. So as they're going to the ground, that's when the shots were fired. Also, Chud's defense attorney said, "Hey, when he was, when they were fighting, that, the shots were fired, also he was in a, Chud was in a headlock." That also adds more,↗

4:07:05Speaker 34You know, whenever you self-defense, right? Or whenever you're, you know, using deadly force, whatever, all you need to establish is that you had a reasonable fear for your life and/or, you know, serious potential for serious bodily injury. Serious bodily injury, guys, can be a broken bone, right? So you don't have to sit there and get fucked up, in order for you to justify self-defense, even up to a deadly force level. All you need to prove is that That your use of force was reasonable given the facts and circumstances that were known to you at the time when you pulled the trigger. So this basically means that there's no such thing as twenty twenty hindsight when it comes to self defense. But all these fucking dumbass idiots wanna sit here and comment about, "Oh, well, you know, I don't know if this is gonna be legit. I don't know if this is self defense." Blah, blah, it's like, bro, honestly, none of you can even fucking comment on that because you weren't at the building and you weren't the one Marbles there was saying to him as they were fighting or grappling on the ground, you didn't know if you reach for the gun, you don't know any of that shit. So all of that, right? All of these different factors change the use of force scenario significantly, which one minuscule change can, you know, be the difference between, you know You being justified in it being reasonable use of force versus not. And this is the, these are the facts that like nobody is like looking at. And I'm, every time I look at someone that's like post off of Chud the Builder, some like stupid black commentator, some hip hop commentator, none of them actually understand the facts, and they don't realize that Chud the Builder is, sorry, that this Jason Fox guy is the one that closed the gap on him and followed him, and then made the threats and everything, and that's when he took the bladed stance and↗

4:08:47Speaker 34He didn't pull the gun out until the guy fucking attacked him, and that's even in the, in the criminal complaint, which by the way, the criminal complaint was very poorly written and very short and didn't make much sense, and the prosecution wrote it that way obviously because they didn't wanna make Love look to, to be the aggressor, which as he was. And then on top of that For those that don't know, this idiot, Joshua Love, literally wrote, back in, February on Facebook that he was gonna assault Chud to kickstart his switch career. So there's no way if you're like a reasonable person knowing all these facts that- You wouldn't come to the conclusion that Chud acted in a reasonable fashion given the facts and circumstances that he was being assaulted by some crazy motherfucker coming up to him saying, "I got PTSD, you know, you say that chimp shit to me, blah, blah, we're gonna have problems, blah, blah," and he's walking up to you starting issues. Like any reasonable person would be like, "This motherfucker's off his rocker, what the fuck's going on here?" And he has a, you know, lengthy criminal history, fucking, you know Try to burn a house down with his kid in it, all this other shit. So, yeah, dude, I, I think anyone, like, if you put your feelings aside for Chud, like, whatever, wh-whether you like him or you don't like him, and you look at the case objectively and don't be a fucking retarded fifty IQ monkey chimp retard like all these other, like, commentators on YouTube, you'll come to realize, like, hey, he has a pretty strong self-defense case. And↗

4:10:00Ian Malcolmba- so based on the outcome, I mean, I think it's safe to say that if he's found, guilty in spite of, of the case that you just presented to the, the opposite, I, I can't envision White America freaking out, right? They certainly didn't with, Darren Soto and many other cases. I can see perhaps the inverse though. Do, do you think if he's found not guilty, that they have race riots part two, or, or this is kind of too small of a story for that?↗

4:10:29Speaker 34I don't know if there'll be race riots because whites don't fucking race riots like idiots most of the time, right? There might be some protests or some shit like that, but, you know, even like with Austin Metcalf, people were pissed off, but like, they didn't like riot, at least not to my knowledge that I saw, right? It's not like George Floyd shit. but I will say this, if Trump walks, there might be riots, right? And, and, and that's another thing I wanna say too, we're, we↗

4:10:58Speaker 34Is killed, it's almost inevitably gonna be, you're gonna be arrested, even if you're justified, even if it's a clean shoot, even if it's a clean self-defense situation, you're gonna, you're gonna be arrested, and the reason why you're gonna be arrested is because what I've realized with a lot of these like state DAs and shit like that, these little counties, they don't wanna have to deal with the, you know, with the fucking backlash and the headaches of the media scrutiny and everything else like that, so what they would↗

4:11:24Speaker 34rather do is they My ability to say, "Look, we tried to charge it, they didn't wanna take it, it is what it is." And this comes a lot of the time, especially with police cases. So they'll, they'll write, they'll arrest the police officer, they'll pass it to a grand jury. If it gets past grand jury, they'll take it to trial. They don't care whether they win or not. the state is not like the feds, that's one thing I will say definitely for sure from, you know, my experience working in law enforcement at the federal level They don't really care about losing cases or losing trials. So, you know, it is what it is. But, you know, this is where we are now. We are in a very politicized, magnified, media frenzy world where if a case gets enough notoriety, you know, it will potentially get prosecuted just because, the, this district attorney's office doesn't wanna have to deal with the headaches that come alongside that media scrutiny of like, oh, why didn't you indict? Why didn't you charge it? Blah, blah. So they↗

4:12:30Ian MalcolmWow, Andre, do you have any thoughts or, or questions for Myron on that one?↗

4:12:35Speaker 35Yeah, I agree with the entire, view of Chud the Builder's case. I mean, it's clear and cut, self-defense. Guy went, tried to pursue Chud, made it very obvious, open on social media. I don't know why niggas are like, you know, Chud was calling people the n-word, so therefore he justified him going and kicking his ass. Okay, nigga, you really wanna live in that kind of world? You wanna live in↗

4:12:58Speaker 35Black people like↗

4:12:59Speaker 40celebrating that he got arrested. The, the sad part is this, that many of the people who committed↗

4:13:05Speaker 35murder, attempted murder, rape, they got off on-- well, not got off, but, you know, got bailed out at a low bail, a very low bail compared to what Chud is. I mean, it's crazy. Chud can't get out 'cause he said the N word, but niggas can get out when they murder someone or attempted murder, and we let these people go out in the fucking street. Black people should be more concerned about that And more antagonistic and hostile to that than a white dude saying the N word. I said, "You know, if Chubb was black, you know, he would have been dead. he would have started Monday, would have been dead by Friday." That's the sad part That, you know, black people will sit back and jump out over anything, but we will kill each other over the shit first, and, and quicker than anything else. We'll let white people talk about it, and I won't kick a white person's ass, but we'll kill a nigga for saying anything less than the N-word. So that's the big problem that people aren't realizing, that this whole situation really exposes two things. Black people are slaves to their own emotions, which has been pushed by Jews, teaching black people this primitive form of victim mentality that Jews↗

4:14:05Speaker 35and that there's a two-tiered justice system in this country against whites that also hurts blacks, because the people who are getting out and being able to, have more freedom or being let off are black criminals who kill good black people, who want better and are doing better. This is the problem that we have. So the more we expose it, I mean, the better. And it's very unfortunate Chud's in this situation,↗

4:14:30Speaker 35and it's, no, it's very stressful, but it does expose a lot of things, a lot of rotten destruction in this country that's been really plaguing both of our people.↗

4:14:37Speaker 34That's a good point that you made, Andre, because, literally there was a guy, that I think committed like a first degree murder or some shit like that, and he got like a quarter million dollar bond, meanwhile Chud had like a one point two five million, which is also another wild disparity. I'm glad↗

4:14:56Speaker 34A pedophile, a guy that committed like murder, these guys killed people, bro. Meanwhile, in a self-defense case, right? A very viable self-defense case. I mean, they played the video in the bail hearing, by the way. You can see this fucking idiot, you know, Josh Love followed Chud as he's live-streaming. he got a one point two five bail, mil-mil bail, and, and this guy, I think his name is, Steve Nash, something Nash, the, the district attorney is, is,↗

4:15:25Speaker 34you volatile case, racially motivated case, so he's gonna try to send a message, right? And it's kind of unfortunate because, like, when that happens and they're trying to send a message like that, it's not, it's inherently not gonna be equal. So obviously, you got murderers that are getting, you know, a quarter million dollar bond, which you only gotta post ten percent of that, meanwhile for him, they made a million dollars, and then, like, you know, they're giving Duol a hard time about being able to post the bond and all↗

4:15:52Speaker 34this other Versus the self-defense case where no one actually died, you know, they made it one point two five and then they're making it difficult for him to go ahead and get-- And then even his defense attorney, like, made some very, like, very, very troubling fucking statements, like talking about, "Oh, well, I'm not a racist, and I come from a lawyer family, and all this other shit on Twitter." And that just goes to show you, like, how the black mob, you know, just intimidates and, and, antagonizes and threatens↗

4:16:26Speaker 34A defense attorney and doing his job and taking a case, they're calling him a racist. You know what I mean? Like, this is, this is like the, the, the fucking, you know, ludicrousness of, of, of the stupidity of these motherfuckers. It's like, oh, yeah, I know a lot of you guys don't have a job and don't understand what being a defense attorney means, but that means you're gonna defend people that you might not necessarily agree with. And I've gotten into so many debates with these fucking idiots, and it, and, and, Of this case, and they won't not, they'll say no, and I'm like, so then we can't even have a discussion. Oh, well, Chud is guilty, guilty. How's he guilty? Because he's a racist. That doesn't matter, you fucking retard. And, and for all of you guys, all of you guys that believe in the Second Amendment, you don't have to like Chud, right? But let me make an appeal to everybody in here right now, in here. If you believe in the Second Amendment, you believe in having a gun, you believe in the right to self-defense, you understand that more than likely if something really pops off, you're gonna have to probably defend yourself before the fucking police get there, and you value that right to bear arms to defend yourself, you better be fucking cheering for Chud, 'cause let me tell you right now, if Chud loses this fucking case, we are opening the fucking floodgates for you to be assaulted by fucking deranged, retarded motherfuckers that are idiots because they feel like they can, and they can go↗

4:17:44Speaker 34Do it, come attack you, and you can't even defend yourself. That's where we're going, and that's in Tennessee, a red state with a stand your ground law. So, you, you don't have to like Chud, okay? But you should love this country, and you should love the Second Amendment, and if you love that And Chud loses? That's gonna be an L for all of us. But these people are so fucking, you know, short sighted. They don't understand that there's gonna be consequences to this shit where precedents are set. So you have to put your feelings aside. Like I said myself, I don't agree with him going around and harassing people on, on, you know, and being a nuisance streamer, but that doesn't matter, okay? My feelings and what I think about his content is fucking irrelevant. Did he act in a justified manner in his use of force? I would argue↗

4:18:28Speaker 34For all the idiots out there, it doesn't matter that he says nigger, it doesn't matter that he antagonizes people on his livestreams. On that day, when Joshua Love closed the distance on him, okay, closed the distance on him and attacked him, that is a self-defense case, that's all that matters, okay? This other shit isn't more than likely, if his defense attorney's not a fucking retard, shouldn't be coming in, okay? Because that's gonna be prejudicial and it's gonna fuck up the jury's ability to look at it from an objective standpoint of did↗

4:18:58Speaker 34Let's say, let's say, some, someone is like, you know, doing some weird shit, the, a pedo, whatever. You still can't assault them and then not expect them to be-- They can defend themselves, up to sometimes even deadly force, right? You don't have to like someone or agree with someone to understand that they do have a right to defend themselves in some cases. I hate pedos. I used to fucking arrest them and put them in jail. But, you know, some of these vigilantes that walk around trying to catch these guys↗

4:19:28Speaker 34Again, I wanna be clear about this. Let's get off the pedo shit, but, but, but when it comes to like-- You're so↗

4:19:34Speaker 41badass, shouting your history as a federal agent, but you were too pussy to actually↗

4:19:39Speaker 34talk. Didi, shut the fuck up, bro. I'm talking, okay? Like, you're, you're so fucking stupid and low IQ, you're over here interrupting me as I'm speaking. There's a reason why people know who I am and nobody knows who the fuck you are, okay? Dididididididididididid Me as I'm speaking, like there's a reason why nobody knows who you are and you're using a card to an email, you fucking dumb faggot. But anyway, I'll close on this. Okay? I'll close on this.↗

4:20:08Speaker 34Anyone that cares about the Second Amendment and self-defense should be paying attention to this case, because if Chud loses this case, it's gonna set-- it's gonna set back self-defense in America for a very long time. Because when you look at the facts and circumstances, I think Chud has an extremely strong self-defense case, and we have to be objective↗

4:20:26@khanverseYeah, you're absolutely right. This Second Amendment thing and First Amendment thing, this is very important for everybody that to defend collectively. and given-- I wanted to ask you and, Andre both this question, given that all this shit is downstream from Jews and Jewish supremacy and the Jews need, and, you know, schizophrenic need really to control all these different people. I mean, it's why they're behind immigration and everything else. and also in America, and America's pretty much the only shot that the planet has at Really pushing back on the Jews, it's gonna have to be strong white men and strong black men to come together to fight these devils. Given all of that, and given that this thing obviously gets politicized and weaponized by them for a specific strategic purpose, which is to maintain those battles, it's kinda similar on, that's the racial level on the, on the religious levels like the Muslim-Christian thing where it's like, you know, every single time we try to fucking make some ground on that end, you know, some retarded fucking- The imam or some retarded fucking pastor will say some dumbass shit and get some people riled up, and of course, fake-ass Jews like Jack Layton and things like that. So given all of that, what is a strategic, appropriate approach? From the black perspective, I want this for Myron and Andre in this situation, not just, not just, why don't we↗

4:21:45Speaker 42ask Andre what he thinks of Jake Lang, Andre's best friends with that Jake Lang? Not just,↗

4:21:49@khanversenot just accountability, but also like strategically thinking through like what the objective here is, because obviously accountability is crucial, accountability for our own all the time. I mean, that's how it goes, but and it, it takes people from your own race to, to be able to do that, and of course, you know, like with people like Myron, they'll be Not even black, you know? So the problem here is that, you know, there is this higher power in the situation, the bigger boss, trying to make sure that everybody else grinds themselves up, and these types of things kind of facilitate that. So I'm curious, how do we tackle it from a more strategic perspective, considering the big enemy that we gotta topple?↗

4:22:38@khanverseThat's from Myron Andre first, anybody else can come in. Yeah, that's Myron Andre. Andre,↗

4:22:42Speaker 34you take it first, bro. I was yapping. Might as well go ahead, you got it. Oh, okay, let's not, I was, I was-↗

4:22:46Speaker 42I mean, I don't know, I don't know how Andre's gonna answer your question, though, Khan, given that he's best friends with Jake Lang, a Jewish retard. You wanna explain that one, Andre? I'm↗

4:22:55Speaker 35not best friends with Jake Lang.↗

4:22:57Speaker 42You literally have a tweet, I can pull it up right now. Your tweet says, "Uh, Jake Lang is a cool dude, I've met him. There's lots of misinformation and bullshit about him." Yo, yo, yo, that's all I'm saying. Is, is he Jewish? Is he Jewish? Yes. But a really cool dude at the end of the day.↗

4:23:13Speaker 34Yo, I hate motherfuckers like you. Dude, the guy called Jake Lang a Jewish retard, a cool dude, and said that there's misinformation about him, even though To ask Andre, exactly. So what's Andre doing, running around with him, giving him heads? Hey, hey, hey, dumbass, can you shut up for two seconds and stop being a parasocial retard? Do you understand that you can still be cordial with and/or get along with people that you might disagree with very strongly on certain political things? It's like incredible for some of you fucking retards to understand that you can have a difference of opinion and still be amicable to people. Like, do, do, do you not get that? If you have an issue with Jake Lank,↗

4:23:54Speaker 42Not as best friends, but not as best friends. Not as best friends, I told you that,↗

4:23:58Speaker 35you stupid fuck. Now we're best friends. Bro,↗

4:24:01Speaker 42you literally have a love letter to him on your Twitter. You're like, Jake Lang is a cool dude.↗

4:24:05Speaker 35Stop spreading misinformation about him. I, I'm gonna remove him for a↗

4:24:13Speaker 38second time.↗

4:24:15Speaker 35Like, dude needs to calm down. Yeah, I went to the, Dearborn protest with Jake. Yeah, he reached out to me. I go to a lot of the protests in my area, I've always done that, very consistent. I went to No Kings Day protest by myself, got arrested. So I've done tons of protests. He reached out to me, went, didn't know that all the fucking people were gonna be there, didn't know that at all, Nick Shirley and so on. And, I was there. I gotta fucking deny it.↗

4:24:39Speaker 38My friend, we went by, I met him, we↗

4:24:42Speaker 35listened to me having a conversation with him, I think that talking to him, he puts on a big↗

4:24:50Speaker 35and it makes you look stupid. But talking to him as a per- he's a cool dude to talk with. Now, given he likes fucking the, the sixteen-year-old shit, I don't fuck with that, and I've completely like, no, I don't fuck with that. But having a conversation, I can have a conversation with anybody, Jews or not. I don't like Jewish, Jewish supremacy is obviously a fucking problem.↗

4:25:06Speaker 38Well, Andre, that's, that was the question that we went kinda by with this disturber is, and Myron, so the idea is, well The black community, when they made George Floyd like the hero, like they're saying, "Hey, you black people, look, this scumbag criminal, he's your hero. We're gonna put statues up." I mean, the worst thing in the world is to not have a voice and have the most awful people in the world, really nefarious people, speaking for you on your behalf. So it seems like the question was sort of like, "How do you deal with that?" Are the, the black community is in some degree getting really duped by a Jewish supremacist media? Is that so,↗

4:25:50@khanverseYeah, and it's not just them, it's the whites too, it's both. So that's why I'm saying it's, it's both parties have to address their own, but also how do you come together? And then, and then the other thing too,↗

4:26:00Speaker 34so here's the other issue too, the thought leaders in the black community are, are number one, they're stupid, and they off-scape from the real problems. I'll give you a perfect example right now, bitch ass Tariq Nasheed, right? He'll sit there and he'll talk about white supremacy, this Actually, that you're like, you know, wedging against white people, they're not even, it's not even really white people, it's fucking Jews. And he's like, "Oh, well, they're the same." And I was like, "No, they're not." And he's like, "Yeah, they're the same." I was like, "And this is what I mean when I say a lot of these stupid-ass blacks like don't understand that there is a distinct fucking difference between white people and Jews. White people will cosplay-- sorry, Jews will cosplay as white people↗

4:26:49Speaker 34For affirmative action, et cetera, right? They get into the Ivy League schools, they dominate the Ivy League schools representation, et cetera, despite only being two to three percent of the population. So like, you know, Terri Nishida is too much of an idiot to understand This very incredible and diff- you know, distinction, a very important distinction here between white people and Jews, and he puts them all on one, and I'm like, they're not all on one, bro. But then you find out that his wife is Jewish, then it all makes sense. But regardless, to, to, to land my plane here, yeah, his wife is half Jewish, I kid you not, bro. I kid you, I, I, I thought it was a fucking joke, and, and she's actually half Jewish. Everything in time. And it's come↗

4:27:27Speaker 34from I'll never, I told them to send a debate, and this one I, when I cooked up another debate, I said, "Tariq, if you actually think white people and Jews are the same, I want you to go on YouTube tomorrow and talk about Jewish power, and I want you to talk about the, you know, the slave trade and all this other shit, and how it was run by Jews." He was like, "Nah, I ain't gonna do it. I'm not gonna crash out exactly, 'cause you motherfuckers know who↗

4:27:52Speaker 34runs your shit People don't realize is they control both sides. They, they literally control both sides. They've been doing this for a very long time. They control the Democrat side, they control the Republican side, they're in the Libertarian Party, they're literally in every fucking side. So, so I think people waking up to that and like exposing the Black Dot leaders 'cause a lot of them are stupid, like I said before. Like a guy like, Tarik Nasheed who's coined in terms like FBA, Tethers, all this other shit, this guy's like very influential for↗

4:28:31Speaker 34You know, one of these like, you know, tribal, racial people and only does race content, you're not gonna know who Tarik Nasheed is, right? He's like the black Jarett↗

4:28:38@khanverseTaylor.↗

4:28:39Speaker 34Exactly. He's like the, exactly. And Jarett Taylor actually demolished him in a debate, if you guys wanna watch that, back a couple years ago, it was fucking embarrassing, it was really bad. But it goes to show that↗

4:28:48Ian Malcolmlike-↗

4:28:49Speaker 34He also won't talk about the Jays. Yeah, yeah, he won't. He won't, he will not talk about The question from before, you know, guys need to wake up to this. I'm not saying this to wake up and be like, "Oh yeah, let's just go ahead and attack all the Jews," but people need to know, like, where the power structures really lie. If white people had as much power as they claim, right? And, and like, like, like, you know, they have all this, like, they're, they're, they're the monolith of power. Okay, why can't you talk shit about them with, like, no consequence? But why↗

4:29:25Speaker 34So let's really figure out who was running this fucking country and go from there.↗

4:29:30Speaker 43Why can you get off on seventy-two convictions and then walk out and murder a white person and then not go to jail again? That's what I wanna know.↗

4:29:39Ian MalcolmWait, what was that? So, Byron, I'm, I'm curious for your thoughts on, because Obviously, I, I, I believe you spend a, a good amount of time down in, the districts, not too far from, where Dan Bilzerian's gonna be campaigning against Randy Fine, right? And I'm, I'm curious for your thoughts on- Is he still↗

4:29:55Speaker 34running? I, I, I was, someone said that he's not gonna run anymore. I don't know.↗

4:29:58Ian MalcolmHe dropped out?↗

4:30:00Speaker 34I, that's what I heard. I, I don't know though. I, I, I'm not sure. I was hoping one of you guys can confirm or↗

4:30:11Ian MalcolmI'll do a little searching, Colin, you wanna get on your wizardry there. I, I was gonna ask Myron what the, the temperature was, for the younger audience that I know he was saying he was gonna try to build his campaign around and if it was getting a lot of traction outside of people that just kinda live in the Twitter sphere and, and are aware of the JQ.↗

4:30:29Speaker 34Yeah, I, he's, so he's up, a bit north. I'm, I'm down in Miami. so, you know, now anyone that's, you know, been to Florida understands that, you know, South Florida is, is a completely different world from, you know, Central and Northern Florida, right? Southern Florida's basically fucking Cuba Spiceland, you know, nobody speaks English and shit. But, you know, up, up north, it's like, you know, yeah, hillbillies and niggas. So Spent that much time up there, but from what I understand, it's a lot of old people, bro, and old people aren't good. Old people are, you know, they're the ones that basically put Matt, Massey, like, out of, out of, out of, out of, out of a, out of a representative job. So, you know, fifty-five and up seems to be the, the boomer,↗

4:31:16Speaker 34audience that, you know, inherently votes for, you know, your neocon, traditional, you know, right-wing, fucking, Jewish politician pretty much everyone below 55, Massey took. So that tells me that once these boomers die off, you know, hopefully we can fucking take our country back because the young people, are definitely aware of the Israel problem, which is, you know, fantastic to see. It's really good to see. So I'm, I'm interested to see, if anything, I'm gonna pay attention to the governor's race with, with Donald and Fishback. Don-Fishback seems to be picking up some ste-steam You know, and obviously Fishback is able to energize quite a bit of the young people, so we'll see how, we'll see how that goes. I'm interested to see, see how that goes. If he does well, man, that's, that's gonna be a good fucking sign.↗

4:32:04Ian MalcolmAnd, and out of your on fishback and, I'm, I'm curious for your thoughts on, I don't wanna use the term sincerity, but, but there's, I, I think there's an argument to be made given how much more visibility he has relative to some of the other candidates that perhaps everything isn't as organic as it seems. And I, I, I know his, recent wedding was floating around, people were making some, you know, eyebrow raises about that. I'm, I'm curious for your thoughts on him and, I, I guess the↗

4:32:35Ian Malcolmcontrolled opposition angle that he might represent.↗

4:32:44Speaker 44Whoops.↗

4:32:49Ian MalcolmStrange, Andre, David, any thoughts on, on that question? Then we'll, we'll go to some of the other hands that are in here.↗

4:32:56Speaker 38Well, I'm not very familiar with that race. I've heard, I've heard the rumors before, especially the Rather lightning fast marriage, but I'm not sure about the rest of it.↗

4:33:07Ian MalcolmYeah, and I think that was, sarcasm that the eight, eight days, which actually kind of mirrors the, if I'm not mistaken, it was, one of Biden's kids that actually got married on exactly that kind of timeline, but non-n- nonetheless, it was, I think it was a couple months that they were prospectively together, but there's just a lot of pieces about it that, that are kinda strange. And when there's a lot of smoke, there's maybe fire.↗

4:33:32Speaker 35I, I think he's genuine. I, I like what he represents, for just people become-- He's very, very popular with people around my age. Like, it's really great. A lot of Gen Z, we love him. now you could sit back and argue like, how genuine is it? there's a lot of questions. But, either way, I think he's, he's got a good chance of winning. but, you know, it's good to see a candidate like him getting this amount of steam and energy for an election.↗

4:34:00Speaker 35This is what the entire political landscape is gonna look like in this country. It's gonna be a real, a big battleground, for like the last, seat of power, last, you know, inches of power the Jews can really have and try to, you know, retreat to if it goes in this direction. So we start seeing fishbacks in, in various different places, especially within red states, then that's a good thing for the overall movement in combating the Jewish supremacy problem. but we'll see how, how things go, we'll see how things progress↗

4:34:33Speaker 34Yeah, sorry there, man. I, I got, I got kicked out.↗

4:34:44Ian MalcolmYeah, I↗

4:34:44Speaker 35don't know if you're↗

4:34:44Ian Malcolmthere. Oh my goodness, no, I was, I was, I was talking with the, the mute on. So, so Myron, I was just asking about on the fishback race. A lot of kind of curiosities floating around, I know the wedding, it, it was, sarcasm when he said it was just a couple days after meeting the woman, but nonetheless, there's a couple pieces about the fishback campaign that people think maybe seems a little less than, than organic. I was just kind of curious if you had any thoughts on, on the idea of him being prospectively controlled opposition.↗

4:35:14Speaker 34I mean, look, I, I, I, I, I, I had him on my show, I think he's cool. We disagree on some things, but I, but I like him. I think he's infinitely better than, you know, Drew Rondinolts, right? And, a lot of the other candidates in Florida, 'cause Florida's owned by the Jews, so, especially, you know, South Florida, it's like, you know, fucking haven for them down here. They control Miami↗

4:35:43Speaker 34One that, you know, that is a refreshing change, to the, you know, the status quo in the GOP, 'cause the GOP is, is cocked, bro. It's actually really fucking embarrassing how, you know It's completely run by Jews, too much female representation. I don't know why we have so many women in politics, it's, you know, I, I think that's one of the biggest issues we have is having women in politics, like, you know, less bitching, more in the kitchen,↗

4:36:08Speaker 34you know, and, it's just, that's a whole other conversation. But, I, I think it's a refreshing change on politics, a-and I, and I like him, and I think it's good for Florida.↗

4:36:23Speaker 34you However, you know, as long as you're, you know, on base for the most important stuff, I think that's, I think that's fine. You know, people tend to want like a candidate that's like themselves or whatever, you're just not gonna get that. You're simply not. It's not realistic. It's, you know, you gotta be an adult.↗

4:36:37Ian MalcolmNo, I, I couldn't agree with you more on that. And, and, and real quick on, on fishback again, not↗

4:36:44Speaker 34him as an individual. Oh, the mayor stuff and the, and↗

4:36:54Speaker 34The game of campaigning and social media and, you know, getting yourself out there, et cetera, that, that is the game now. You know, you look at like these fucking streamers, all these motherfuckers are fucking bodying, you know what I mean? They look at, You look at the, the twenty twenty election, people were, you know, stealing votes. So it's, it's just like, this is unfortunately, the game that we have. The more interconnected we are, the more we have to create this, you know, you know, false ambiance of like, look at how much fame and status I have, look at all these numbers. I'm not sitting here condoning it and saying like, yeah, let's go ahead and just like fake all our shit. But I do understand that that is the new normal, unfortunately, in a social media world↗

4:37:37Speaker 34The new GOP, they are going to campaign on very similar grassroots-type, campaigns like what you saw with Donald Trump and what you saw, what you're seeing with James Fisk back in Florida, it's gonna be more social media based, it's gonna be a bit more organic, it's not gonna be, you know, your traditional, you know, campaign flyers where it's like, you know, super highly edited and expensive and all this other shit. I think the new, the new meta, especially for the Democrats, maybe not the GOP, we're always ten↗

4:38:07Speaker 34Or get ready, in twenty twenty-six, twenty twenty-eight, they're gonna run on anti-Israel rhetoric, they're gonna run on social, socialist democracy, Democrats, right? They're gonna run on, you know, affordable healthcare, they're gonna run on, you know, you know, Medicaid, Medicare, bringing that shit back, they're gonna run on all that stuff. Democrats now, guys, are fucking socialists, okay? That's, that's where we are, okay? The affordability has went down so badly that these guys are just full-on socialists now. If you↗

4:38:37Speaker 34You look at AOC, you look at Bernie Sanders, you look at like the very popular Democrats, they're all fucking socialists. The whole Bill Clinton, Chuck Schumer, you know, Democrats of the nineties that were like still pro-Israel, that shit's fucking dead. Now, it's gonna be full on, Israel's on the part side. Even you see Gavin Newsom trying to switch it up a little bit 'cause he wants to make a run for president,↗

4:38:58Speaker 34that is what I think the Democrats are gonna do in twenty-eight, in twenty-six, and then I think also with the Obviously we're way behind the Democrats because we're, we're owned by the Jews on the right, unfortunately.↗

4:39:11Ian MalcolmNo, and, and I mean, I, I obviously have the ben that kind of both sides are. And, and it brings me to the question, do you think the Democrats are gonna run just on anti Netanyahu and Israel, or do you think there's a prospect that the message Bill Zarian was carrying and a couple other candidates will kind of permeate the Democrats, which is not just anti-Israel and Netanyahu and the genocide?↗

4:39:33Speaker 34They're gonna run on, they're gonna run on socialism, hundred Ron Mombani's campaign, they, it, like the, 'cause here's the thing, people need to realize, the Ron Mombani campaign in New York City was the first big, Democrat win since, damn near like the Biden election, right? Because we kicked their asses, in '24, Trump absolutely mopped the floor with, with Kamala Harris. Democrats aren't considered cool, they don't have the, they don't have the male, audience, they're looked at as like faggots and super, weird and losers,↗

4:40:07Speaker 34He basically kind of flipped the script and, you know, made it somehow cool to be a Democrat, right? Like because he was using like these grassroots, ads. He was out there handing the streets. He was saying free buses for all. He was saying what people wanna hear and shit like that. So I think it's not just gonna be like, you know, obviously when he did the debates, they said, "I will all go to Israel," all the fucking cut down, you know, NYC mayor candidates, "Yeah, I would go to Israel." He's like, "No, And everything else like that. Like people don't wanna hear any of that bullshit anymore when it comes to like Israel's our greatest ally. That's like a, a cooked line. This generation isn't gonna tolerate that. So I think the Democrats are gonna lean into that, but I do think when it comes to like policy, they're full on fucking socialists, dude. They're, they're full on, they're, they're full on socialists.↗

4:40:55Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And I'm, I'm, I'm kind of curious for your thought on, so the, the anti-Israel stance, is there a part of either party that you think, aside from the very extreme outliers like Belsarian, that would extend that rhetoric, not just to Israel and Netanyahu and genocide and war in the Middle East, and APAC, but would prospectively take that even further to say, "Look at the media and COVID and all these other things that we've been talking about that, you know, essentially nobody else in the media..." We'll touch with a ten foot pole.↗

4:41:27Speaker 34They can try, but the, the, you know, we saw them spend thirty five million dollars on Massey, bro. Like, you know, and Massey, I would argue, is like, you know, very, restrained in his criticisms of Israel, right? He'll talk about APAC and kinda keep it there. Like, you know, he'll, he'll say, "We don't wanna fund the wars," he'll kinda keep that there. And keep in mind, he's a libertarian, so it's,↗

4:41:50Speaker 34it's in line you know, to have a politician, you know, at the federal level that's over here saying, "Yeah, they run the media, they do this," and like, you know, start getting into what I, you know, I call the forbidden topic of world Jewry, right? that's when you're really gonna start to draw the ire of, of, of the Jews and Jewish lobby. This is when you're gonna have people like Bill Ackman, right? you know, working alongside people like Ben Shapiro to ensure that you fucking get, you know,↗

4:42:25Speaker 34That normies aren't prepared for. they will sit there and they'll talk about apartheid, they'll talk about, genocide, they'll talk about the occupation, right? They'll talk about the Palestinian plight, no problem. But a lot of people don't wanna talk about shit that, like, you know, Adolf Hitler and Henry Ford correctly identified, by the way, which is the concept of world Jewry. they don't wanna talk about that. That's when you're really gonna get start getting hit with-- There's two topics that are still forbidden when it comes to↗

4:42:51Speaker 34the But the two topics that will immediately get you ostracized are the Holocaust and, the Holocaust and World Jewry. Those two topics will get you still, people will look at you like you're crazy So I don't think normies are ready for that. To answer your question, Ian.↗

4:43:10Ian MalcolmYeah, no, no, it, it feels like, Marty McFly when he finishes his, his, Yeah, there's levels to this show, bro.↗

4:43:17Speaker 34There's levels to the show. Like, so I, I consider level one, right? So like, n-n-now there's like levels to the, to the, to the JQ, right? So like level one is like what I call like, you know, normie awareness. You know, Gaza, Palestine,↗

4:43:36Speaker 34You're gonna be somewhat, you know, objec- you know, safe objectively to a degree, right? You know, you can say, you know, I want, I want both countries to be, you know, to, to figure something out, blah, blah. You can, like, you can take that fucking middle of the road approach. Then the next step is like, you know, starting to identify, like, you know, the dark history of Israel and, like, you know, figuring out that, like, oh shit, like, Israel's really, like, kind↗

4:44:03Speaker 34of↗

4:44:06Speaker 34Oh yeah, the free, free Palestine. Then step two is like understanding, like, the dark history of Israel, how, like, it was literally funded on terrorism with the Ergun and the Haganah and the Stern Gang, that it literally, you know, they stole land from motherfuckers, how a bunch of Europeans are, you know, colonizing a land of Arabs, right? It makes no fucking sense. Netanyahu, for those that don't know, is fucking Polish. How is a Polish guy dictating the fate of land,↗

4:44:31Speaker 34that is, that is, Judaism. Now you're starting to get into danger zone because now you're actually, you're not just looking at, Zionism, now you're looking at the root cause of pro-Zionism and the Zionism problem, which is Judaism, because Zionism is a colonial project based on supremacy, which is based on what? Judaism. And this is the ugly part that no one wants to discuss. Me and you know this, Ian, 'cause we've talked about this for fucking years, but,↗

4:44:56Speaker 34And, and Khan, we've talked about this, but for the normies out here that don't know, guys, it's not just Zionism, Judaism in itself is a supremacy based religion, okay? So the only way that you're gonna come in and take people's fucking land like that and do it with, you know, without giving a fuck, is you really have to think like, "This is my land. God gave it to me. I am better than these motherfuckers." So like, the root issue with Zionism when it comes-- and this is where the They, they will sit there and they'll say Zionism is the problem, and they will never address Judaism for fear of being called anti-Semitic. But if you want to properly address the Zionism problem, you must deal with the problem of Judaism and the fact that Judaism is a supremacy-based religion where any group of people that sit there and says that we are God's chosen people, well, guess what? When you think that you're God's chosen people, you are going to use that to rape, kill, pillage, and steal land that isn't yours because you feel like it was ordained by God.↗

4:45:55Speaker 34Religious, because Jews or Judaism, it's a religion, but it's also an ethno-religion. So they're, in other words, you can have an atheist Jew, you can have a Muslim Jew, you can have a Christian Jew, you can have a Jew that is, agnostic, whatever it may be. But these same Jews that are atheists, that don't believe in God or might be secular, they'll sit there and still tell you that fucking God promised them the land of Israel. That's the fucking lunacy that these people have. So you can't properly address the↗

4:46:25Speaker 34Then alright, then we get into World Jewry, and then I think, you know, the top of the pyramid is the Holocaust, because the Holocaust, if you question that, you say it's less than six million, you start talking about the fucking, you know, Zyklon B and how the camps were-- there was no fucking way that they were gonna be systemic death camps like they claim, and rather that they were labor camps, right? Then now you're going to jail. Now you're-- now this is a topic that's been in like seventeen fucking countries. You know, you bring J↗

4:46:55Speaker 34From the Holocaust. So if you challenge that six million number, you'll go to jail. I, I, when I had Germa on, fun fact, in Germany, it's illegal to even discuss the Holocaust, and if you hire a lawyer to defend you, your lawyer can't even defend you because he has to challenge the official narrative to defend you, and therefore that's a crime. So a lawyer can't even fucking defend you in Germany, bro. It's fucking insane.↗

4:47:17@khanverseWait, wait, wait, you had Germa on? Did you have Germa on?↗

4:47:23Speaker 34Sorry, go ahead, Khan. What was that?↗

4:47:24@khanverseYou had Gueymard on?↗

4:47:26Speaker 34Yeah, I had Gueymard on, yep.↗

4:47:27@khanverseNice. Yeah, man. You know, last year when we-- or two years ago now, when we did that conference, there was a lot of people who hadn't heard of his name. I'm glad he's finally getting, making the rounds, man. He's a fucking genius, dude. And it's fucked up what happened to him. Michael Chertoff. Michael Chertoff was the one who personally fucking got him out of this country↗

4:47:49Speaker 34Yeah, no, they, they put him in jail, bro. They put him through the wringer, and, and when he was in Germany, bro, fighting this shit, his lawyer went to jail for defending him. So, so your lawyer, you can't-- the, the, the Holocaust, because apparently it's like, I guess it's, it's a crime to, to challenge the narrative publicly or publish it. So obviously when you're filing documents in court or in this open court, whatever, like in order for your lawyer to defend you, they have to↗

4:48:18Speaker 34His lawyer went to jail, so you can't even mount a defense against, against the Holocaust in Germany. So, you know, this goes to show that, we can't even have an honest discussion on this. We can have a discussion on every other fucking genocide on Earth, except for this one. So, I would consider the Hol- the, the, the, you know, the Holocaust is like the top, you know, you talk about world Jewry or you talk about the Holocaust, you're, you're, you're immediately gonna get ostracized and banned. Those are still two↗

4:48:43@khanverseYou know what's crazy is, this is why I wrote, Myth of the Good Jew ten years ago, 'cause I was talking about Twinklestein as another great example of a gatekeeper on the subject, and you could see, I don't know if you saw that, I don't know if it was a live stream or what, but he was like complaining about how the Holocaust is no longer a thing and how Tucker is obsessed with Israel and how he doesn't like it, and he was a protege of Chomsky, and, you know, Chomsky was in the, the You in this big, nice kosher sandwich all the way across. And so if you go too far this way, they'll bring you in this way. If they, you know, you go too far to the right, they got people that are more racist than so-called racist white people. They got, they got, they got a Jew for every ideology that you could come up with in trying to battle them. And they make sure that you kinda like stay within the boundaries. So I thought it was really interesting when Twinklstein came out like that,↗

4:49:40@khanversehe showed his true colors just recently. I↗

4:49:46Speaker 34You mean Norman Finkelstein, is that what you mean?↗

4:49:48@khanverseYeah, yeah, yeah. He was talking about, you know, how it's a problem now that the right is, the so-called extreme right is obsessed with Israel.↗

4:50:00Speaker 34Well, it's probably because it's getting into his, his niche or whatever, 'cause this was a fairly, you know, obscure topic, a couple of years ago. Not many people were talking about this thing, but now, you know, a lot of people are talking about it. But it's good. I mean, I'm, I'm happy when I see more people talking about it, especially people from both the left and the right. But the other thing too, also that's important is that, you know, the, the, the criticism of Israel,↗

4:50:23Speaker 34from Subverting our governments or running our foreign policy, the fact that they use their influence, in America to benefit a foreign country, like these are all things that, you know, that people are kind of, are, you know, critical of when it comes to right wing, of Israel and Jewish power, et cetera. From the left perspective, it's, they tend to be a bit more humanitarian, you know, what's going on in, in Gaza, what's going on in Lebanon, killing kids, the apartheid, the colonialism,↗

4:50:58Speaker 34So it's, it's two, you know, different reasons why they, the, you know, and then also a lot of leftists are looking at it like, "Oh, yeah, it's like a white colonial state," even though it's really not. But that's, that's kind of the angle that they attack it from. So we attack it from completely different, perspectives. Now, me, for me personally, even though I'm a right winger, like, I, I am completely sensitive to the, the Palestinian plight, you know? I, I, I think↗

4:51:28Speaker 34Follow, I don't care, you know, they can be green, blue, purple, like, the, the killing of children is, is completely unacceptable in any regard, and, you know, the State of Israel does this because of that supremacy clause, right? So, I think the best, approach is to attack Israel from both angles. You must, you, you must, you know, call out their hum-humanity atrocities while simultaneously calling out their,↗

4:51:51Speaker 34You know, their foreign policy subversive in the United States, while simultaneously calling out world Jewry, that's the best way to do it, because then you can attack them from multiple different fronts.↗

4:52:00Ian MalcolmYeah, I couldn't agree more, and, and, and David's absolutely, been hammering that term of, of Jewish supremacy, which, Myron, I, I think it's just the perfect encapsulation because it, it's the type of phrasing that for anybody to be in opposition to, it's like, wait, wait a second, you oppose the supremacy We all agreed that that's a bad thing, and it, it seems like a much better vector to go at than, than it's the Jews, which, we of course get accused of, of suggesting. But I see that we've got, Kaid Alkemy who has their hand up. not sure if it's a question for Myron or Andre, but, feel free to jump in.↗

4:52:37Speaker 45Oh yeah, th-thank you so much. I've been, suspended from, X for a little while, so, it's good to be back and, obviously I've said some, some wild, out-of-pocket shit, you know, over the years on, on X and, never suspended, of course, you started addressing and, confronting the topic of Zionism and Jewish supremacy, and of course, you get a four, twenty-four hour ban, forty-eight hour ban, six-day ban, and then fourteen-day↗

4:53:07Speaker 45Good company and, by the way, Myron, I, I didn't have a question for Myron, but I just wanted to commend him. One, I'm, I'm a big fan of your, your podcast and of course your, Your outspokenness on the topic of Jewish supremacy and Zionism and so on, and, all the way back to the JFK and, the timeline all the way to the present date. and I wanna thank Ian and, David. It's always a pleasure to hear you speak. You're like, you're like a poet with, with words and, and you know, just kind of, addressing these topics. And, Andre, this is my first time, hearing you and, and sharing a space with you,↗

4:53:45Speaker 45so And, it was mainly something that, Andre actually said, well, kind of harkening back to that Uncle Tom at the beginning there, where he was conflating, biological, you know, re-representation with, you know, and, and, and obviously he was, c-seriously conflating, you know, denotative with connotative in terms of the, the topic of black and how the, you know, the issue of black comes up. And obviously when you say black, there's so many different connotations that come along with it, but, he was, he's-- I think he was really just conflating the denotative with the connotative there, but, that was for, a, a speaker earlier on.↗

4:54:30Speaker 45And, I think some people here were being a bit charitable, th- saying like he meant to say this or he meant to say that. I think he just kinda watched an Andrew Wilson, you know, debate topic one on one. He just wanted to use the term like steelman and he wanted to use the term strawman and conceding and, obviously all the, the key words that, come up in a debate, which was fucking comical. But, yeah, that, that, it was actually something that Andre said that kind of↗

4:54:58Speaker 45That, you know, blacks and, whites might have to stand up together, and I think before, you know, to kind of defend and to, you know, just kind of address this issue of, of Jewish supremacy and then just the, you know, j-just all the tentacles that they have within the media, within finance, within the economy, within entertainment, they've kind of really kind of cast the net wide and, you know, a-and obviously they're not only in positions of- Prominence, overrepresented in positions of prominence, but also in positions of power, you know, given that there's such a small, you know, small population, and yet they're really overrepresented in areas of power, which is more concerning than the areas of prominence. I don't care that they're dentists and lawyers and doctors, and that seems to be their go-to defense, like, "You're jealous of our success," you're constantly jealous of the success. But I think the way in which they pitted us against each other, and also, like, the,↗

4:55:55Speaker 45And, Chad the Builder. And Myron, thank you so much for giving the synopsis on, Chad the Builder. I wasn't aware that the aggressor was that other person, and, I also wasn't aware that it was premeditated as well, so thank you for sharing that. I wasn't aware of the particulars on the case, so thank you for that. But back to what, Andre was saying, I think it's gonna be very important, and I know we had a thought experiment earlier with Yankee kinda saying we gotta get all the blacks out↗

4:56:25Speaker 45And I don't think that's realistic. I mean, it's a fun thought experiment to see what the country would be like removing any sort of visible minority or marginalized group to see how, you know, the country carries on. But the reality is, as, as David mentioned, they're here under duress. They didn't just come and invade, you know, they, they didn't ask for that. They're here, and I think we have to,↗

4:56:47Speaker 45I think we have to erase all the preconceived notions and all the bullshit and all the propaganda that's been laid out by Zionists and, and the Jewish supremacists, in order to pit us against each other. And I think the, the way to do that is, as Andre, Andre and also as Myron suggested too, is, you know, we have to kind of get rid of this, we have to kind of be at a baseline with, you know, with, like, even keel, and we have to kind of remove, anytime we discuss any topic,↗

4:57:15Speaker 45the Really sensitive and, and jump down the throats, and also the conflating, which is by design, the conflating of, both whites and, Jews, and then as they kind of hide behind the, the veneer of being white when it suits them, and then of course they hide, you know, they, they, they, they cower toward their, their, you know, their, their Jewish side when it benefits them the most. And I think we need to kind of be wise to that, and I think the, the important thing is to educate people on There is a, a concerted effort to have us pitted against each other, and, you know, trying to have different,↗

4:57:55Speaker 45different perceptions of one another, like the so-- like Larry Elder discusses in Thomas Sowell, the so-called bigotry of low expectations, where it's like, we don't think much of you, therefore you can't be any help to us, you're more of, you know, you're, you're more of a liability to us, you're more of like a, you know, a, a, a rotten appendage and, and something that,↗

4:58:17Speaker 45To one another, a brotherhood, so to speak, and I think they've been really good at that and pitting us against each other all the while keeping Israel, homogenous and, you know, dividing. And I think you said another thing, Andre, with, in terms of, you know, they thrive in multicultural, I think you're right to a certain degree, they do thrive in multicultural settings, but it's one of those things where it's rules for thee and not for me, because in Israel, they are very homogenous. They wanna keep that, a nation state, they wanna keep it predominantly Jewish, they wanna keep it, you know, Jewish in terms of the religion and the culture and the identity, all the while in Europe and other places like HIAS and these NGOs. Very odd, very bizarre, and very unsettling. The countries allowed these Jewish NGOs like HIAS and JDL to come in to handle their, you know, their borders, and these rabbis kind of, advocating for open borders everywhere else except for in Israel. And then when, when people do try to come into Israel, like someone mentioned the, the Ethiopian Jews that came in, they sterilize them, you know, just like the, the Chinese with the Uyghurs. Anytime these, you know, places don't wanna be, you know, homogenous and, and And have a, you know, a, a, a very homogeneous nation state and identity, anytime they see any sort of perceived threat, they neutralize the threat within, and then we're not, we're, we're seen as less than when we kind of address something or say, "Hey, wait a minute, this doesn't smell right." All of a sudden, we're seen as like less than or we're seen as bad people for, you know, identifying that. I'll land it there, but thank you guys.↗

4:59:54Speaker 35Yeah, Jew-- when I say Jews, thrive in multiculturalism, I, I mean they do, they very much do. but of course, they're not gonna sit back and get home base smelling like, you know, everyone else. They're gonna keep it as Jewish as they can, as they can keep it. You know, they're not gonna allow blacks and everyone else in Israel, because no, that dilutes the entire point of having the Jewish state and operating out of here and having all this influence. They have these other places they can sit back and thrive and have their little↗

5:00:23Speaker 35To do their bidding, and that's what we see today. Yeah, so they're never gonna be, for, you know, yeah, bring the Africans over here. Oh, yeah, we want to, oh, yeah, just bring 'em all. We don't care. They don't never gonna do that shit. Goldberg isn't gonna allow that. But he'll definitely advocate, for that in white societies, even in black countries, he'll do it. Arab countries everywhere, he'll advocate for it all over. and this is the problem,↗

5:00:48Speaker 35you know, and we But the moment you mention a fucking Jew and say, "Hey, you know what? These people are doing this shit all the time, and they need to be held accountable for their actions like we hold everyone else accountable," oh, you know, it's the end of the fucking world. We have to sit back and cry, "Oh, it's another Shoah." Well, you know what? You keep acting and behaving this way. I mean, you know, don't be surprised when people don't like you, and the same thing we see with the Black community. You know, niggas get Well, if you stop acting like a nigger and stop being so fucking loud and obnoxious, and black women would shut the fuck up and be themselves and actually have some high self-esteem rather than being, you know, so angry and aggressive all the time, black men actually have a purpose and direction instead of being lazy niggers, then we wouldn't get the shit that we do.↗

5:01:33Speaker 35Jews in the same way, but Jews know exactly what they're doing. The thing is that they, they're just still hoping that most people don't know what's going on. And we do have quite a bit of way of going. it's surprising, you know, me going to high school and having to talk in code about the Jewish question, me going into the military and still have to talk in code about the Jewish question, and now today I can sit back and jayq on the fucking street if I want to, you know, I can talk to regular people at the Meiers↗

5:02:03Speaker 35As well versed as we are and, and well researched and, and, and informed on the matter, but they're conscious to the, the problem to a degree. Getting them to understand, you know, the difference between a Jew and a white person, understanding these two aren't the same that's gonna require a lot of work, but they-- I'm glad, I'm very happy to see so many people waking up to the Jewish question, especially from the Black community. It's, it's very good. The only, the last barrier is exposing the civil rights movement for a, a Jewish orchestration that enslaved blacks further and further and, and gave them the vehicle to gain racial dominance in this country over blacks and whites. That's just the last piece of the puzzle. We can get Black people to understand that, like, you know, listen, it was all this joy and fun We gonna be free and equality, it sound nice, but that was the Jewish illusion. You know, we could have did this, did all this ourselves and been better off, but no, we wanted to become slaves to a, a, a system and a, and a game, that was never in our interest, and even for the destruction of both the people that we were told that we were supposed to hate. So.↗

5:03:07@malleusigYeah, yeah. The thing, you know, Andre, the thing that, that got me, that really woke me up, and this is years ago. Was when I realized that being Jewish means essentially getting to be the KKK but not being criticized for it. You have, you're talking about an entire ethnicity of people. I don't, I don't call them a race because for me they don't even amount to a race. They're not even, they, they're so, their genetics are so scattered and so jumbled up, you can't make a race out of them. I do agree they're not white, but- The, the thing with it's like they literally, like, they will say full on to your face in public, "No, we don't marry a non-Jew. No, we don't let our kids play with non-Jews. No, we have a law in our religion that says we're not allowed to eat with non-Jews because if we did, it might foster feelings of, you know, like familiarity, which is a big no-no because once we get familiar, then we might start dating and we might accidentally- Accidentally marry a non-Jew. This is↗

5:04:16@malleusigliterally white supremacy, but it's, you know, without the white part. It's just, it's basically just, "I'm Jewish, I get to be as racist as I fucking want to." Like, they get to be so racist that,↗

5:04:31@malleusigI, I'm so, it, it just, it boggles the mind, right? And that is the thing that I think- Is the biggest injustice, it's why people get so pissed off, is because they reserve the right to all the worst parts of human nature and they deny it to everyone else, but then they call us hateful when we notice the disparity, when we notice the difference. So they're over here sitting, they're sitting over here demanding special treatment throughout the last two thousand years of history, and when they finally get special treatment, which is what Hitler did, he just gave them the special treatment they've been asking for, they want and cry bitch. And I, I don't see how, I don't see a how these people can be compatible with anyone else And I also don't understand, and maybe this is part of the Jewish IQ, I don't understand how any person who is Jewish can look at this situation, can look at their own culture, and come to any conclusion other than we are literally a suicide cult. Everything we believe, everything we teach our children to do is aimed at maximizing everyone else's hatred at, of us, and will res-result in our, in our eventual destruction at their hands, and rightfully so. Right.↗

5:05:46Speaker 35It's a constant toying with that destruction, going back and forth, you know? It is. We, we're gonna do these things, and we know we're gonna piss off everyone, and they're gonna wanna kill us. and then when they do, we're gonna lose a lot of people, but then we're gonna use it to gain more power, and it's, it's quite remarkable, like how this- How it operates and how, how they form and how they come up with this, this system of doing this, and we all fall into it. I mean, white people most definitely, you guys fall into this shit very fast. Like, oh, well, you know, oh, I'm sorry, Goldberg. Oh, let me give you, can I help you out? No, fuck that, stop letting them back in. Have you learned that? No, kick them out. Our↗

5:06:23@malleusigcompassion is a weakness, it really is. It's↗

5:06:25Speaker 35weaponized↗

5:06:26@malleusigvictimhood.↗

5:06:27Speaker 35Black people are completely immune to it, you↗

5:06:33Speaker 35Can't even see the difference, and we have, we need more people to wake people, black people up on, on this subject.↗

5:06:39@malleusigYeah, yeah. The, the, the thing that really gets me is it ends, it always ends up in the destruction of goodwill, in the destruction of higher compassion and higher culture, because anyone who looks at the situation right now and sees it for what it is, will inevitably come to the conclusion If white Europeans had only learned to weaponize the black community against the Jews in the way the Jews are weaponizing them against us, this problem would have been solved four hundred years ago.↗

5:07:14Speaker 46That's, yeah,↗

5:07:15Speaker 40yeah, very↗

5:07:16Speaker 44true.↗

5:07:16Speaker 46I would say that's not really our nature, though. Our nature is to rise up and confront them and subjugate them, and I'm wondering when that's gonna happen. I'm wondering when, wondering when the European diaspora is gonna say, "Enough is enough. It is the Jews. It's not the weaponized golems of black people or the Chanimans, the Googs, the Spiks, the Negroes, the Muslims. It's just the fucking Jews. It's that simple." But everybody is so scared of them.↗

5:07:46@malleusigThor, like, how can you say that's our nature? Like, if you look at our history together, the hi-- our history is like ninety percent accommodating them, and we only rise up against them when things get so horrifically bad That, like, there's no other conclusion we can come to other than these motherfuckers are trying to kill us. We need to do something about this or we're just gonna be gone. Yeah, like the Black Plague. They're stealing our children, they're poisoning our wells, right? Those are the only times in history when we rise up. So it's not our nature to rise up, it's not our nature to subjugate them, it's our nature to accommodate and befriend them because we are the fucking,↗

5:08:27@malleusiggolden retrievers of the human race.↗

5:08:30Speaker 43Well, not me. I think there's a better way to put it. I think white people in general, I think we're altruistic. We, we care about our neighbors, we care about our communities, we don't want people within our midst to suffer, and because Jews are so good at weaponizing, Sympathy and victimhood, they're able to get more liberal-minded people to take their side, even if it's against their own self-interest, because they get to stand on some moral high horse that, that they're facilitating the needs, of someone in quotations less fortunate than them, but that's really not the case, because Jews, like in the GOP, will tell you criticizing of Israel is a, a totally reasonable thing to have, in politics, until you begin to criticize criticize Israel, and then they try to pigeonhole you into debates about the Holocaust or,↗

5:09:23Speaker 43how they've suffered and been kicked out of countries, et cetera, et cetera, and that they've always been a diaspora, whatever. The, the point of that saying is then they begin to weaponize antisemitism and try to pigeonhole you into saying you're antisemitic, and for a lot of people, unfortunately, that's been an effective tactic that's worked for over a century. They've gotten away with it, and in fact, I think that they've Taught it to blacks. You saw the Black Lives Matter movement that was primarily funded by Jews and got picked up by them. Now they feel the same level of entitlement, they're following that same playbook. A, a rabbi even told me once that the, and I thought it was funny that the Jews use blacks as the research and development, section of their politics to see what they can turn into a political movement for themselves. That's exactly what↗

5:10:12Speaker 35I was gonna↗

5:10:13@malleusigsay next.↗

5:10:14Speaker 43Yeah.↗

5:10:15Speaker 35Yeah. Yeah. And also, to add to that, what they can use on white people in order to keep them, behind. That's something as well, because when you look at a lot of the, the things you're seeing out of the black community, culturally, the music, I mean, it's bleeding into the white community. it's bleeding into, you know, you're looking at white girls, they wanna, they do the same shit that a lot of these nigger bitches are doing. you know, you got white boys are calling themselves↗

5:10:36Speaker 43niggers too. You know that it can be an inclusive term for everybody. And if it's not, it shouldn't be. Exactly,↗

5:10:51Speaker 35that's exactly what they've done. They've stripped the identity of whites and made black people so, dysfunctional beyond all repair. Which, like I said, I'm still optimistic that things will change. And the same for white people. And I think that we will, of course, overcome this great oppressive system that has subjugated both our people, but nothing is guaranteed without action, without,↗

5:11:12Speaker 35good numbers and good people willing to make things happen, make things Go in a different direction. So we'll see what comes of it. I mean, as things progress, it's great to see so many people aware and conscious. You can talk about these things on the internet to a degree, right? There's levels to it, Myron said that, but still there's a lot of work to be done, but it's no different. Concord speaks to this, it's very different from where it was like ten years ago, five years ago, if anything.↗

5:11:37Speaker 43And I'll land with, what I was trying to get at was the reason that they weaponize anti-Semitism so much, or they'll, they'll try to pigeonhole you out of, criticism for Israel, is that just like Myron said earlier, when you have these levels of the JQ, this, this introduction of criticism leads to an understanding of, of how this system really works, and once you lift the veil behind the curtain, there's There's no turning that back, and it does like provoke a nationalistic response where the people say, "I don't wanna be ruled by a foreign people, I don't wanna be ruled by a foreign country, I don't want, you know, my country to be subservient to interests that don't align to ourselves, to the point of suicide. It's national suicide at the, at the rate that we're going right now with our debt and our-- the way that we're injuring ourselves politically with other countries. Like our relationships is diminishing due to the fact that- That were so tied at the hip with Israel to the point that you can't even deny it anymore, and yet they'll still try to pigeonhole you into some anti-Semitic remark to get you to stop talking about it, because they know once we get into↗

5:12:44@malleusigit, thank you. Yeah, one second. I was just gonna add to what you said. I was just↗

5:12:48Speaker 43gonna say like, because they know it will expand the conversation to an indefensible position.↗

5:12:54@malleusigYeah. Just want to say I wrote this earlier on X, but like there are seven stages in the process that all of us go through, and they are, one, the Nazis were evil, two, Israel is just defending itself, three, hey, what's the Mosquito Protocol? Four, Israelis are the real Nazis. Five, Israelis are worse than Nazis. Six, wait, the Nazis weren't even that bad. Seven, we fought on the wrong side of World War II, and eight, real antisemitism has never been tried. And the good news is that right now most of X is kind of at stage four,↗

5:13:30@malleusigand I, I like the speed that we're going. So we're making progress.↗

5:13:34Speaker 46Last I checked, there are only about six hundred only, six hundred or six hundred and fifty million X users, I think. is that right? And I have a quick funny I wanna share with the space really quick. I don't know how many of you saw the movie The Blues Brothers from nineteen eighty, starring, two Saturday Night Live alumnus, alumni, Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi. And in this funny, entertaining movie, there was a tiny neo-Nazi leader with his goons behind him. I forget his name, he's probably dead now, famous actor though. And there was- There's all these people, these liberals protesting in front of this neo-Nazi group,↗

5:14:19Speaker 46you know, holding placards up, banners up, "Racists," "White supremacist," "Nazis." This is in nineteen eighty, okay, kids? And this neo-Nazi leader pulls up his megaphone, his bullhorn, and he says verbatim in his megaphone, "The Jews are using the blacks as muscle against you." Now, I don't- I don't think anybody, unless you were in the South, took this seriously at the time. It's plain as day today, especially from my perspective, being fifty-five and a San Francisco native. I think David is about my age, maybe a little older, but, you know, we grew up at a time, no, not at a time, when I was around blacks and they would be, "Oh, yes, sir," "No, sir," and they'd hand me my white towel as I'd come out of the motherfucking bathroom and shit. They weren't, they didn Mentality, and they weren't wearing the finest, of suits or their Sunday best day in and day out, but they weren't weaponized as the golems they are today. I mean, I see even young black women acting as violent chimps against young whites and other people who are standing their way. So what, what happened? I mean, in nineteen fifty, I think seventy-one percent of African American homes had a father present. It's like twenty-two percent now. That was all in ten My good buddy, I won't mention his name, has been a district attorney here in San Francisco for over thirty years. He's about to retire, and he's always remarked, and we, we went to high school together, in grammar school together, twelve years of Catholic schools, and he would always remark about how these young blacks and even black adults just don't know the finality of death, they don't know the destructive power of firearms, they don't abide by authority, they don't know discipline And all of these traits they have that are intentionally, you know, designed by these Jews in taking their authori-authoritative disciplinarian fathers out of the home. I mentioned that for a reason. But so that's the difference I see between my generation. I really feel sorry for like these Zoomers, and when I hear the Nick Fuentes types and all of his, you know, minions, his fans, they listen to Kanye West. I gotta admit, why are you- Kids, whether you're white, green, yellow, blue, why are you listening to black music? It's only going to destroy your English vocabulary, make you sound like a dumb motherfucker, probably imbue in you that immorality that is evident in the, the, in the lyrics. I mean, violence, "Why I Got to Fuck," making money, hoes,↗

5:17:05Speaker 46it's just so degenerate, and it's unfortunate that, progressively Americans- Oh, you know you love that kind of music. God, who isn't. No, I listen to Metallica, you know what I'm thinking about, or Jazz and Fusion. And I'm a drummer of 38 years. Well, you're missing out, baby. Okay, I think you got the deal. I am, I got it. Jesus Christ.↗

5:17:27Speaker 43I can hear the Groopers in my ear right now saying, "Let a nigga live." Just proving your point. All right.↗

5:17:41Speaker 35Hey, guys, real fucking silent. Let's let Azmama, what do you got to say? Azmama, what's up?↗

5:17:46@a_az_4Hi, guys. So, I came in and we're talking about Israel and Islam, right? And, I'm totally on board with this conversation the way it's going. The topic is race realism and black America. We're talking about Israel,↗

5:18:00Speaker 44Islam. Okay, yeah. That's exactly what the fuck we're talking about.↗

5:18:04@a_az_4No, the topic is race realism and Black America.↗

5:18:09Speaker 46Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I kinda wanna bring it home a↗

5:18:11@a_az_4little bit, I just wanna bring it home.↗

5:18:13Speaker 46You wanted to take Andre home, what are you an o-only fans, o?↗

5:18:20@a_az_4You wish.↗

5:18:20Speaker 46No. No↗

5:18:21Speaker 37race mixing in here, easy mama.↗

5:18:23@a_az_4No, no what? Okay. I was↗

5:18:26Speaker 37just making sure, just making sure.↗

5:18:29@a_az_4There's nothing wrong with race mixing, you guys. but I wanna bring it home, seriously. I wanna know. No. I wanna know.↗

5:18:36Speaker 37Get 'em boys, get 'em. Like my black husband says, there's nothing wrong with- Oh, sorry, am I mic's on mute?↗

5:18:42@a_az_4I don't know what woman would be like my black husband is okay with me fucking a white guy.↗

5:18:50Speaker 37No, that's not what I was gonna say. What's your point anyway, Mom? You wanna, you wanna bring it back to the USA? So I wanna, I↗

5:18:54@a_az_4wanna bring it back to the, the USA, right? I wanna know what, black Americans or- African Americans think of,↗

5:19:08@a_az_4the illegal situation here, yeah, the undocumented immigrants Illegal immigrants. I don't know how you wanna say it.↗

5:19:17Speaker 44Illegal. I wanna know↗

5:19:19@a_az_4what your guys' thoughts are on, what we should do as a country, how we should approach this situation. Should we show mercy? Should we show compassion? Should we set limits, when it comes to- It's very- When it comes to-↗

5:19:39@malleusigYeah.↗

5:19:41@a_az_4This, this issue-↗

5:19:43@malleusigThis issue, it's, it's very simple, it's very simple, I can tell you very quickly. What we do is we revoke the protection of the law from anyone who is here illegally. So if you invade the country, you come over here, you don't come legally, you don't have any protections under US law, which means you can be murdered and the person who murders you doesn't face charges. You can be stolen from, the person who steals from you doesn't face charges. You can be assaulted, you can be spat on, anything can happen to you, up to and including rape↗

5:20:12@malleusigThe United States legal system won't bother with your case. That is the only way that we are going to get them to leave.↗

5:20:21Speaker 40That's a very, very brutal, reality↗

5:20:24@a_az_4that I can't- I, I don't know if that's the best approach.↗

5:20:28Speaker 40Well, what, what, what do you- It's not about- It's not about- It's not about- The conversation is that, it's not about, okay, well, this is the nice approach or like if we can hug it, can it happen? Is everything that is, can this exist? Okay. So, so↗

5:20:43@a_az_4let's start here. What does everybody think about what's been done thus far?↗

5:20:47Speaker 40No, not, not enough. That's the problem. We're not deporting people like we should. The mass deportations have been virtually stopped. that's the problem. We've not solidified what an American is. We think that being an American is just like fucking apple pie and watch Grey's Anatomy, and therefore you're an American. No, that's not how it fucking works. So, that's↗

5:21:05Speaker 46the And the guy we voted for three times sided with our occupier, our enemy, Israel, Netanyahu. It's still, unbelievable that it happened, but we were hoodwinked.↗

5:21:19@a_az_4Do you think he's really sided with him or is Trump like playing him?↗

5:21:23Speaker 46No.↗

5:21:24Speaker 35No, there's no, this isn't a fucking game of tag. This is why you shouldn't be allowed to vote. We're gonna play this game too. We're gonna take turns being the one who's it. No, that's not what's going on. The nigger is↗

5:21:34Speaker 44compromised by Jews and controlled by Jews That, there's no he's- Is it him and↗

5:21:39Speaker 39General Flynn meet under the fuckin', you know, they meet in the basement, they plan the next fuckin' move, Patriots are in control, everybody knows that. What is it, is this isn't even a question?↗

5:21:47@a_az_4What else are they doing in the basement?↗

5:21:50Speaker 39Oh, god, Az, you know, Azimama, you have said a few things that are just a little bit, they're a little bit perverted, it's not very ladylike, you know that, right?↗

5:22:01Speaker 39Thank you.↗

5:22:02@malleusigWait, are you, are you the one that comes up in here and just like, like slobbers all over Israel? Do↗

5:22:08Speaker 39you like Israel?↗

5:22:11@malleusigArizona mama?↗

5:22:12@a_az_4No, I didn't slobber all over Israel, I didn't- Maybe rephrase,↗

5:22:16Speaker 39maybe rephrase slobber.↗

5:22:19@malleusigYou the one that comes in these spaces to defend the terrorist state of Israel like all the time?↗

5:22:24@a_az_4No, I have nothing. I, I, I've been listening about Israel and I, I've been listening to this and I was just thinking maybe there's a different take on it, like a different way of approaching the topic.↗

5:22:38Speaker 43Alternate reality and an alternate timeline that we don't live in. You sure?↗

5:22:43Speaker 46By the way, Rabbi, when I, what did I say earlier where you rose up against me? I, I said that, the reason why I think the way I do is because, as most of us, most of us in the space know of the history of Jewish expulsion, 1,034 times since the year 245 A.D., not, common era, right? That's another, perversion. The Jews have↗

5:23:12Speaker 46impressed upon us, but, since the year two forty five AD from a hundred and nine different geographical localities on planet Earth, and I'm just assuming it's gotta happen again. Are you telling me that I am the one cursed with not enjoying a Jewish expulsion in my lifetime? I'm already fifty-five years old. Come on, man, come on, God. I'm looking to the heavens for once as a lifelong cultural Roman Catholic. Please, God, I beg of you, that's all I ask. At this point, okay, ma'am? And↗

5:23:43@malleusigI, I agree. I think that honestly, Isol needs to flex his muscles way more often. that is, that was the, the blessing that we were given by Isaac, was that when the yoke becomes too heavy, Isol will rise up and cast it off, and I don't think we do it enough. I think that we tolerate a much heavier yoke From Jacob, then we have to. And unfortunately, let me ask you this-- I would love to see another expulsion in your lifetime.↗

5:24:13Speaker 46Let me ask you this though, Malia, where in the world, based on what's happening, they're ramping up this totalitarian, communistic, you know, government everywhere you look, Australia, Canada, Ireland, certainly the UK, perhaps worst of all, where on planet Earth do you think this intifada of ours against the Jews, the rise of the- Almighty antisemitism, where might that happen other than here?↗

5:24:43@malleusigI don't, I don't, maybe France, possibly, no, South America could happen Pretty, I can see it happening in South America before here, like Argentina, Australia, Mexico, not Australia, Australia is↗

5:24:57Speaker 39perhaps on the bottom↗

5:24:58@malleusigof the list, and then Australia's even worse than United States. Yeah, like Australia. No, so you need to find a place that has a enough uncivilized people that they're willing to go kinetic without being talked out of it, and that's pretty much South America is your best bet.↗

5:25:13Speaker 39That's true. And you know what, that's pretty good. you know what, I think I'm gonna go with that as well. Lock in South America.↗

5:25:20Speaker 44Yeah, based off America.↗

5:25:22@a_az_4I'm gonna stick with Australia. What's the bet?↗

5:25:24Speaker 39Oh my God, you are really- You know what, I'm gonna be kind. Not so smart, crazy mama.↗

5:25:30Speaker 40What are we talking about? Why, why would Australia be at the top? Oh, we're gonna-↗

5:25:34Speaker 39All right.↗

5:25:37@nance726They wouldn't, they↗

5:25:38Speaker 39wouldn't. Well, let's see if she can make a case, you know? I mean, fuck it, we, you know.↗

5:25:44@a_az_4I don't know, Australia, Australia was the first people to go with the COVID vaccine, so they're really susceptible to- Doesn't that kinda work against↗

5:25:52Speaker 39your whole like argument, don't you think? This is↗

5:25:55Speaker 44the dumbest shit in the fucking world. What are we talking↗

5:26:01Speaker 35about? I have no chill with just retarded, fucking people. What are you talking about, A-Z Mama? What? What compelled you to come up here and say this? What does that have to do with what we're talking about?↗

5:26:12@a_az_4Well, I'm just saying they're really susceptible to, like, going along with sh- you shouldn't do.↗

5:26:23@nance726Okay, so if I can just jump in here and, and, and like kinda, just interrupt this retardation. Yeah. so first of all, I just wanted to say that, you know, Ian and, Andres, it's been a great space, and, Ian, Rabbi, and, David was up here earlier. I think these spaces you guys have been doing lately, you know, with these, you know, confronting the different races and the issues within them all and trying to unite people on the, you know, common Enemies and talking about our differences are, are really important and have been overall productive despite some of the, kind of ridiculousnesses, ridiculousness of some of the speakers tonight. I think it has been a productive conversation and, Andre, it's been a pleasure getting to listen to you, bro. You've been hilarious and, and very, insightful, so I, I really do appreciate that.↗

5:27:03@nance726I just wanted to touch back on a couple of topics. way earlier, we were talking about hip hop and about the influences that's had on the black community, and we talked, you know, we, we did touch on the, you know, the fact that many of the owners of the record companies, the producers, even, and often, a lot of people like, a lot of people avoid this, but the, or don't mention it, the songwriters themselves, of many of these hip hop artists are actually Jewish.↗

5:27:32@nance726The, credits for their songwriters, a lot of them are the two same Jewish men that write many of these very, sexually explicit songs by some of the, top female artists. It's an interesting thing to look into. But, what I wanted to touch on is that not only are these, the record labels owned by these Jews, but the very same Jews, in many cases, are very, at the very least, the same board of directors sit on the private prison industry, and that's something that's, very important to look at because what↗

5:28:02@nance726Is, is, influenced the whole, you know, demographic and certainly generations, and not, and not just the black community, 'cause you, remember how it has impacted the white communities as well, into these lives of crime, has put the fathers in prison, you know, single mothers, then the kids look up to their fathers, prison becomes kind of a rite of passage, and the very same people that are promoting this music, funding this music, distributing this music, are the ones profiting on the other side of it, on the prison, on the private prison, Realize that it's, yes, it, it's, it's not just a conspiracy, it is, well, I mean, it is a conspiracy, but it's not just a theory, it is a, it is in fact a very big, conspiracy that funds their pockets on both sides of it, and that's just something important to mention and for people to look into because it, it is a fact. I talked to a mortal technique on the space, I interviewed him once, and we kind of delved into this,↗

5:28:56@nance726and it's, it's definitely I have a lot of problems with him. a lot of everybody here pretty much is, familiar with Dr. Recknwald and with Azapac, and, they tried to reach out to Fishback early in his campaign, to try to get him to, you know, on board with them, them to support him, et cetera, and they sent him off their, their little, you know,↗

5:29:22@nance726Questionnaire, I guess, is what they send out, and they don't ask for anything except that you don't, you know, accept any kind of, Zionist money and you stay away from APAC and all the other PACs. They don't try to dictate what you do or anything like that. and he actually refused to even answer the questionnaire, refused any kind of support or any kind of affiliation with them, saying he didn't want to be involved with anti-Zionist, groups. And to me, that's very telling. Anybody who's spoken with Dr.↗

5:29:53@nance726Well versed he is in this subject, how, you know, compassionate and insightful the man he is, and for somebody to, to completely just turn them down, I think speaks volumes. So I just wanted to just throw that out there. I don't mind him left, but I, I wanted to kinda get his opinion on that, but that's okay. But, yeah, I just wanted to just throw out those couple, couple little points. And, again, thank you guys for the space. And, Andre, it's, it's been↗

5:30:18Speaker 35great yeah, I, I've heard a lot in the background about James Fishback. You know, I like the guy because he represents something good, a change, a move in a different direction. and that's it. I mean, we'll see what he does. If he wins, that's great. if he doesn't win, well, we know that we can put candidates that are, better candidates or candidates adjacent to him out there, and we'll ca-we can see what results we'll get from doing that in the long run. I think that's gonna be the future anyway, especially going into the thirties, the twenty-thirties, you're gonna see more James Fishbacks. Now, you're gonna see a lot of fakes and flakes and faggots out there who are gonna try to grift and try to get on board to get↗

5:31:06Speaker 35Decades, it's always been very genuine people who are discussing these topics when it comes to the Jewish question and Jewish supremacy and, the Israeli lobby. I think it's always been a lot of very good, good people, well-rounded, very outspoken, and 'cause it was just the way you had to go about talking about it, 'cause it would cost you your career to talk about the Jewish question, to talk about Jewish supremacy would cost you everything if you lived in Europe, I mean, most definitely, and in the Americas, you know, you would be kicked out of↗

5:31:36Speaker 35Society for even talking about the Jews, or questioning certain narratives, but today, you know, you can talk about it, to a certain point, to a certain degree, depending on the topic, depending on the subject. But, you know, it's, it's refreshing, but to think about, you have a lot of new people who They just found out about this shit twenty minutes ago. This nigga won't stop talking about it, you know? Oh, you know, I, I finally found out about the Jews, everything is a Jew, they're talking about it all day. Nigga, calm down, okay? I understand. This is really great information, you're excited. You watched Europa League last battle fifty fucking times last night, that's cool. Nigga, calm down. Can we talk about French fries or something? You know, sometimes I get a little tired of, nigga, just coming to me. So, did you know about the Rothschilds? It's like, yes, nigga, I knew, the entire time. So, which chapter of the book are you on, one or two? Like, let's, let's hurry up, like, chill out. But it's still great to see so many people having these discussions openly, and you can be on platforms like X and talk about it. You, if you wouldn't↗

5:32:41Speaker 35From now, like five years ago, that five years from now, you'll be able to talk on X about the Jewish question or even call niggers niggers and niggers. I would never have imagined you'd be able to do it on any platform, but I do that, and so many other people are able to do it, and it's wonderful. But we'll see what happens go in the long run after all this, because there's a lot of stuff that are, is coming down the drain that could really derail this, and hopefully it doesn't.↗

5:33:07Speaker 43I'd like to segue those two things together because what Forti said about the criminal pro-problem with the, the prisons, it seems a common Jewish trope where they manufacture a problem and then sell the solution and end up be-gaining government subsidies from it. Like if we look at COVID, one of those guys that came up here and was talking about how COVID was a white thing, but even though Pfizer and Moderna generated the vaccine or ju-Jewish owned businesses and received billions of dollars worth of funding from the federal Government to manufacture it and then kill, a lot of people as, as a result. It, it just seems a,↗

5:33:45Speaker 43a common thing that we end up seeing. And this fishbait thing, I, I think like, sometimes I think that's the same thing. We see a Jewish problem arise, organically, and then we get sold a Jewish solution that seems adjacent to our own rhetoric. the only problem, that I have with Fishback really is when I look at his, venture capital firm that he had a startup with, and that guy in the IDF was his co-founder. It, it makes me↗

5:34:20Speaker 43skeptical, to say the least, about his origins, his rapid growth into wealth and money, and then running on an anti-Israeli platform It, it feels like the same thing. they create the virus and then they sell us the antidote, and the antidote is still poison. That's my biggest fear. And, and yes, we will see more "fishbaks," we will see more "America First" candidates come up. I've got one in my district right now running against an incumbent, and who I'm supporting a lot, I'm spending a lot of time in real life trying to help him, get the word out for him. But the-- I'm just afraid.↗

5:35:01Speaker 43I guess to say that they're going to, 'cause they would rather sell us the solution by having someone say all the things we want to hear, but we'll still be in their pocket and we'll still have- Them in their ear and doing the things and promoting their agenda. So I, I don't think rhetoric, and I, I think Fischbach's rhetoric is amazing. I think that's exactly the thing politicians need to say, that's exactly the thing that they need to stand on.↗

5:35:32Speaker 43But I think we need more discerning and looking into their past, because that is where my biggest criticism of him falls, is he is adjacent to the problem we're trying to solve.↗

5:35:49Speaker 35Yeah, I agree, man, I really do.↗

5:35:53Speaker 40Damn, I'm getting real tired, I'm not gonna lie, I'm getting fucking tired. It's three o'clock in the m- almost four o'clock in the morning. Holy shit.↗

5:36:00@malleusigYeah, this space went on for a long time. I was, like, I left for a few hours and came back. I didn't expect the space to go on for so long, holy shit. Yeah. But that shows that it's a good, it's a good, it's a good topic, right? There's enough interest in it, people wanna talk about this. This is something that people obviously feel underserved on. There's not enough people talking about it, and so people are coming in and they wanna, they wanna discuss. Whether they're coming in to heckle us or to agree with us. And Rabbi, it's been a night↗

5:36:27Speaker 35of storytelling. Motherfuckers have come up here to vent. I think it's the one thing that aliens and the dog and back in nineteen seventy-two, we Crazy, you know, this entire↗

5:36:39Speaker 44time. I did see two heads up. These are the final two, and I don't know if Ian's here, I'm, I'm sure he's probably chilling or not. I think he might be asleep, yeah. He might be fucking asleep, oh shit. He's gonna wake up tomorrow↗

5:36:52@malleusigwith the space still open and nobody on stage.↗

5:36:55Speaker 43You should change the, the title of the space to make it very embarrassing, to teach him a lesson, kinda like putting a sharpie on your face. Well, no, what you, what you, what you definitely need to do though, Andre,↗

5:37:06@nance726Andre, what you, what you definitely need to do though, if Ian is sleeping, is before you, before we decide to end the space, you as the co-host, you need to kick everybody off the speaker panel to close it down. Yeah.↗

5:37:16@malleusigYeah.↗

5:37:17@nance726I got↗

5:37:17@malleusigyou. Otherwise, someone's gonna come up and, and spam the, Yeah,↗

5:37:27Speaker 43let me get to, rewrite the title as "I Support Race Mixing." No,↗

5:37:32Speaker 40no, never got to say that.↗

5:37:34Speaker 41I can speak, right? Is that okay? Yeah, go ahead, man, go ahead. Oh, yeah, thanks. Yeah, you guys talked a lot, you talked about a lot, many things.↗

5:37:45Speaker 41I was raised by my grandparents. I'm from Utah, by the way. And, I remember when I was a little kid, they were talking about the civil rights and everything, and I remember my grandma, she told me that it was the biggest mistake. And of course, you know, you're a child, so you don't really understand why, and she would just tell me everything, and I was very close to her. She told me↗

5:38:06Speaker 41the reason why it was the biggest mistake is because- it would create victimhoods on many different groups of people. It would destroy many cultures. You know, there's nothing wrong with you being proud of being black or white, but she said that it would destroy their cultures 'cause people wouldn't- Do intermarriage and everything, and she told me that the founding fathers originally wanted freedom of speech with zero consequence, unless you did violence. And what, what happened was the civil rights bill basically made it super easy for lawsuits, and, and of course, it brought women back to the workforce and less children. She told me that when I was like eight, and then of course,↗

5:38:54Speaker 41I didn't know what to say, but- She pretty much mentored me on a lot of things, and I couldn't believe everything she said, and I'm just like, "Wow, she was completely right."↗

5:39:06Speaker 41you know, I, I hate when people say, "Oh, it's the Jews, it's just the Jews." Let's be completely honest, based on the files with Jeffrey Epstein, it's basically the Bolkhov, it's not really conservative Jews, it's mostly People are believing in Baal, that's what it is, and I feel like we should call it out how it is. They're part of Baal, the Baal cult. The thing↗

5:39:27@malleusigis, never we can, but like, you also have to, if you have looked into the Epstein files, you have to recognize that the high priests of the Baal cult are all Jewish.↗

5:39:37Speaker 35Yeah, I just mean like, I was getting ready to say that, yes, and as B, you can't avoid that, realization.↗

5:39:45Speaker 41I feel like it'd be better if we said it that People say like, "Oh, you're anti-Semitic," but no, I mean, you really think you're Jewish? No, you don't believe in God, you believe in basically one of the generals of Satan, and you worship Satan. Yeah, but like, the↗

5:40:00@malleusigdistinction you're, distinction you're drawing is basically the difference between, the devil, like, you know, Satan is Jewish, or the Jews are Satan's upper management, and honestly, that's really not a distinction with a difference.↗

5:40:18Speaker 43I was just trying to- It's really hard to win people over with the occult. yes, you're right. when you go down the, the Jewish rabbit hole and you end up at the synagogue of Satan, you will ultimately realize that this is also a Jewish construction. And so to say that the synagogue of Satan still is Jewish is accurate, but it's hard to get people aligned with that because there's so many,↗

5:40:42Speaker 43Religious demographics that they just don't care, especially someone who's atheist, they just will think that you're fucking crazy. Even more crazy is when you tell them the Jews, try telling them that they all worship Satan. That's even harder to get people on my list. You're not wrong, but I don't think they are so↗

5:41:00@malleusigI don't think they all worship Satan, I think most of them worship themselves, to be quite honest. I think some of them honestly believe they are worshiping God, but I think to be quite honest also in, in what comes out of it It really seems like they believe they're kind of God themselves, and that's-- and that's, it's couched and coded so deeply even in their own culture, they can hide that realization from even themselves. Like that's how dysfunctional-- How can I put this? It's like, it's, it's a dysfunctional upward culture. It's like, it's a culture that's so dysfunctional, but it's dysfunctional in a way that it fails upward constantly, and it's- It's extremely difficult to talk about because you, honestly, the farther you get into Jewish culture, religion, and history, the crazier you sound when you start telling people about it, because it is absolutely gobsmacking bonkers when you get into, when you get into like the Moranos, and you get into, Jewish thought, and you get into the Talmud especially and what they wrote about themselves, you get into racial theory and how racism really comes from Morano Jews writing about how- How, the Jews, are racially superior to everyone else because every non-Jew is the result of a non- of, of a pre-Adamite creation, right? This is what they came up with to justify their continued, like, unique identity after they were forced to convert, and this predates all kinds of European racism. This is literally where we got it from. Right? But you say that to anyone, you sound like an absolute nut because everyone has been so thoroughly conditioned against those thoughts, specifically by music, movies, TV, that like It's, it's like a, an alarm has been set in their brain, right? Anytime someone's talking about this, they will write you off as crazy because it, it is extremely crazy-making. The Jewish religion, the Jewish culture, the Jewish identity are, are in absolutely insane, like by definition, once you get deep enough into them.↗

5:43:05Speaker 41What I find it crazy is, I don't know that much about-- I mean, I've read some things from the Talmud, I don't know that much about it, but it's pretty crazy. how disturbing that book is. It's, it's pretty interesting how... I mean, I don't, I don't know if you can buy it online or anything. I don't know that much about it, I'm just gonna be honest 'cause let↗

5:43:26Speaker 46me↗

5:43:26Speaker 41ask you, I don't have that many. Ask you a quick question.↗

5:43:29Speaker 46Did you hear Ursula von der Leyen say, Ursula von der Leyen, not Lion, right? did you hear her say, "The European people have the values of the Talmud," about a month ago? Yeah. Unbelievable, what they're in- Yeah, I know↗

5:43:47Speaker 41it. Yeah, and, and I found out there's a bunch of satanic, cannibal statues in Switzerland and stuff, and of course, there's a bunch of statues all over Europe. Yeah, it's, it's insane. And I heard that, she was pushing like some gay ads over in Hungary 'cause they were pissed that the prime minister kinda tricked them and George Soros and stuff. Yeah, it's insane. And-↗

5:44:14Speaker 41Yeah, I, I know there's always good and bad eggs in every group, but↗

5:44:20Speaker 46where are the good ones? There, there is the eternal... I don't mean to, there's a bit of a delay, I don't mean to talk over you, my friend. By the way, I hope we follow each other. What's your name?↗

5:44:30Speaker 41Nerva.↗

5:44:31Speaker 46Nerva, okay, yeah, I do follow you. So I shared, by the way, two posts I shared in the pill quickly. A great one, you can't be any more cutthroat, bold, and concise than this, Dan Bilzerian, ten hours ago. America is infested with Jewish terrorists, and they're systematically destroying our country. And then there's this guy, so good for him. Then there's this guy in Armenia, Pashinyan's MP, I guess he's in par-parliament, the European Parliament. He says, "Armenia, Armenia's up next. Armenia needs to stop being a mono-ethnic country. We need to organize immigration, even if it doesn't fit with the so-called national ideas. Tens of thousands of people need to immigrate here. It won't happen without that. We also need to change this mono-ethnic..." Mindset in our heads, because there's no other way to survive in this region. Again, that's all tikkun olam, fixing or healing or repairing the world means undoing all of these mono-ethnic, societies, city-states, and nations, and it's all the Jews doing. So, but continue.↗

5:45:43Speaker 41Yeah, I just-- The thing I don't understand is this, this lot of Jewish people aren't calling this out, and I've- That's why I find it very disturbing, 'cause it's like, I mean, I, I might as well mention this, you know, I'm LDS. There's three different groups of Mormonism. The polygamists are called FLDS, and we always call them out. And I really find it weird how other groups and, and religions too as well, they always call out the bad eggs, but I've never seen any Jewish people call it out on social media or anything, and I find that kind of disturbing.↗

5:46:17Speaker 46They're very targeted. That's one of the, yeah, that's one of the eternal questions Truth Teller always brings up, and Ian, where are the good Jews? Where are they?↗

5:46:28Speaker 41Well, the funny, the, what pisses me off is too, is, I'm from Utah, and it's changing a lot, 'cause from people from California and Colorado are just moving here like crazy, and Salt Lake is becoming literally a shit hole. And, the crazy thing is, a lot of Jewish people settled here with the Mormons, and we actually protected them from the US government at the time, 'cause we're part of the Utah territory, and the Mexicans. And I just find it kind of weird how, you know? My ancestors kinda protected them, now they're trying to destroy my state, and I just like, I'm just like, what the hell, this is what we get? You know what I mean?↗

5:47:08@malleusigTheir, their culture is literally arranged around betrayal. Like, it's, it's almost a sacrament for them.↗

5:47:17Speaker 47Yes, Jews, they, they will always betray you, no matter what. They'll come with a smile and a hug and leave, you'll leave with a knife in your back every time, every single time.↗

5:47:28Speaker 41The, the one thing I just found out, I might as well bring this up, I couldn't believe that, I knew the Rothschilds had their hand in the slave trade, but I had, I didn't realize they actually backed the Confederate States because they had a huge, control of the cotton trade, and I couldn't believe it. I, I was really stunned by that. And I'm also stunned how you can buy a Mein Kampf, but the international Jew, you can't buy that online. I'm like, what the freak? You have to go to- Thr-thrash or to buy this book? I mean, it's pretty obvious what's going on now, and I'm just kinda... I mean, I feel bad for them, not the ball cult I'm talking about, I'm talking about like the average Jew,↗

5:48:09Speaker 41I'm just feel bad for them, but it's just kinda crazy how none of them are really calling it out.↗

5:48:15@malleusigI actually don't think you can buy an unedited, original version of Mein Kampf. I think the reason why you can buy it online so easily is because it is the neutered version.↗

5:48:29Speaker 41Oh, I meant the, the, the, international Jew from Henry Ford. No, no, no,↗

5:48:34@malleusigno, I, I know what you said. You said, like, you can buy a copy of Mine Comp, but you can't buy a copy of the international Jew, and you were right. But I think that the only reason you can buy a copy of Mine Comp is because all of the available versions have been appropriately edited to take out, anything that, that brings- This is closer to an actual solution. And also, they, they probably, they probably added in some more of, some of the more inflammatory passages as well, just to make it look like an even bigger meanie than he was.↗

5:49:05Speaker 41Well, thanks to technology, I actually saw a crazy video of Hitler was giving a speech, and he actually gave a hint that when he was homeless in Vienna, he actually witnessed a satanic sacrifice. And I was like, "Holy shit, like that actually, that actually makes a lot of sense why he did it." I mean, there's other things too,↗

5:49:29Speaker 41of course, like I actually found out about the Black Plague, they basically created it 'cause they put a bunch of stuff in the wells in Germany, and I couldn't believe that.↗

5:49:39Speaker 41And it makes a lot of sense, like what was going on in 1929 to 1933, like what was going on in Germany, and it makes a lot of sense why they were all super pissed, 'cause they're like, "Oh, man, like, we're pretty much are cooked. We gotta do what we gotta do."↗

5:49:55@malleusigIt was the same, Germany was the same story as every, every other cycle, where they welcome them in because, well, they're people too. They tolerate them for as long as they can, and then they see society crumbling around them and say, "What the fuck? What the shit's going on?" And then they realize who's doing it, and then they say to themselves, "Well, we Europeans, we have infinite compassion, but we can't accept, allowing ourselves to be killed. And so we're gonna make the hard decision to take action." And that's exactly what happened with Germany, exactly what happened with England, with France, with Rome, with every country that eventually realized it had to expel them. And it's, it's just unfortunate. It's, it's what they want. That's the only conclusion you can come to is they want to be hated, they want to be expelled, they want to be victimized. It's some kind of weird cultural sadomasochism that's going on, and the only thing we can do is to- Not feel bad about it. The only appropriate response is to not allow our compassion for people, right, get in the way of stalling or stopping our own destruction at the hands of these people. Because, and people's in scare quotes because they don't act like people, they don't act like what we consider people to be, right? We mistake them for, for people, and that's our problem.↗

5:51:21Speaker 41Yeah, it's funny, I, I, I only met five-- I'm from Utah, I know, I mentioned this already. I've only met like five Jewish people. Three of them were from New York, and I, I did find it very interesting how disrespectful they were. I thought, "Oh, maybe they're just from New York and they have that entitlement attitude," but- After seeing some things from that Talmud, I'm like, maybe he doesn't think I'm an animal, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, no, that makes a lot of sense, you know?↗

5:51:48@malleusigThere are, there are royalty. They don't, they haven't told us yet, but amongst themselves, they talk like, like they run us. And in many ways, they do run us, but that's where the attitude comes from, is they're like, "No, no, no, these are the peasants." We can't tell them they're peasants yet. We can't let on that we control them yet, because they're still in a position where they could rise up and depose us. But we are their royalty, don't make no mistake, and that's where the attitude comes from. All these, all these anti-Semitism laws they're passing that make it illegal to criticize Jewish people or the State of Israel, these are simply lèse-majesté laws, which are, for anyone doesn't know, lèse-majesté laws are laws in places like Thailand That make it a criminal offense to criticize your rulers. They're less common in European countries now because we have the good sense to get rid of them, and they exist mostly in third world countries. but they've come back in the form of laws against Holocaust denial, laws against "quote unquote" antisemitism. These are simply lese majeste laws that are coded in a way that we don't call them that.↗

5:53:01Speaker 41To ask you guys a very good question, 'cause it seems like you know a lot more than I do. my church actually owns the largest ancestry library in the world. It's just, just names only, no DNA. And I've worked on it for quite a while, and I actually found out a lot of Europeans are actually descendants of a lot of high up emperors in Rome and↗

5:53:25Speaker 41ancient kings in Israel. And I, I just find it kind of weird how- You know, they have that mindset, yet, you know, obviously a lot of people are descendants of a Jewish person some down, down the line, you know. And I just find that weird how they view us as that, yet a lot of people are descendants of them, you know? Why, why do they have that mindset when a lot of people are descendants of a lot of Roman emperors, especially because,↗

5:53:51@malleusigbecause they see themselves as a race, and they are like the, the, the most vicious racists the world has ever produced. The only difference is we don't call it racism when Jews do it. But like they see themselves as a race, they see themselves as the superior race, and they see the rest of us as You know, n-words. Like that's basically what Goyim is. Goyim is the Jewish version of the, G- Goyim is how Jews pronounce n i g g e r, okay? If that makes it, if that lays it out for you. They also have a very↗

5:54:25Speaker 43kosher way of defining racism, where it's socially acceptable for them, it's called loxism.↗

5:54:31Speaker 41Yeah, I'm gonna be↗

5:54:31Speaker 43honest.↗

5:54:35Ian MalcolmSorry about that. And, and, Andre, before we, wrap up, and, and we could go down that whole subject, but I, I want to go back to you, Andre, just to see if you got any kind of final thoughts before we, wrap up this space.↗

5:54:46Speaker 43Look who woke up.↗

5:54:47Speaker 40No, not at all, man. I'm, I'm fucking, I'm beat. It's four o'clock, I am ready to go. but it's been great being here, listening. No. Interesting conversation, no doubt, Fuck, maybe↗